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Steve Schmidt Confronts Whacko Jan 6th Denier On You Tube Show

  
By:  John Russell  •  3 years ago  •  18 comments


Steve Schmidt Confronts Whacko Jan 6th Denier On You Tube Show
 

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Once in a while we come across a few minutes of video that sums it all up, what is going wrong, no make that what has gone wrong in this country. The never trumper Steve Schmidt , co-founder of the Lincoln Project (he has since left that group) appeared on a right wing podcast/You Tube show called PBD (initials of the host Patrick Bet-David). At one point toward the end PBD asks Schmidt to explain his stated belief that Jan 6th was a more consequential attack on the US than 9-11. Schmidt does , on the basis that Jan 6th was an attack on our constitution and the peaceful transfer of power, while 9-11 , as horrific as the loss of life was, does not have the same long lasting impact on our democracy as Trump's attempt to subvert the Constitution does.  One can agree with Schmidt or not, but that was what started the exachange between Schmidt and one of PBD's sidekicks , which I will point out to you on the video now

Go to the 1:21 :00 minute mark (1 hour and 21 minutes) on this video. There begins a back and forth between Schmidt and the whacko sidekick that lasts for many minutes.  The whacko begins to state sort of matter of factly that Jan 6th was a hoax and it goes downhill from there. 

What this exchange points out, starkly, is the extent to which conspiracy thinking has poisoned the national conversation and , to me, why there can be very little, if any, compromise with extreme MAGA. There are millions of people , walking around among us, who think that Donald trump is being persecuted, who think he is a great businessman, and who think he is right about everything including that the 2020 election was stolen. There can be no compromise with such positions. 


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JohnRussell
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1  author  JohnRussell    3 years ago

Schmidt to the sidekick - "You're a fucking nut"

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  author  JohnRussell    3 years ago

Whacko sidekick -  "they hate this guy (Trump) because he loves this country". 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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3  Hal A. Lujah    3 years ago

It’s very noteworthy that these guys couldn’t bring themselves to admit that calling for the execution of the nation’s highest ranking military leader is dangerous speech.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3    3 years ago

I dont expect many people here to watch much of this, but i did. The three hosts all make excuses for trumpism, are blind to his many many flaws and dysfunctions, and just take far right positions on American society. What they do though is try and defend this nonsense by claiming Trump is a hero to the "average American" and that people look up to him are the true lifeblood of the nation. The main host even claims that Trump is a self made success since he only got 14 million dollars as an inheritance from his father, even though newspaper investigations over the past few years have shown that Trump got something like 400 million dollars from his parents, much of which he squandered. 

MAGA  is at war with our diverse, multicutural society, that is what it comes down to, and it is a war for our country's future. 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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3.1.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    3 years ago

I’m not a big fan of the expression “you can’t fix stupid”, but …

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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4  Greg Jones    3 years ago

Trump is a hero to many patriotic Americans, but not to me. The vast majority of the protestors that day were average patriotic Americans, who were not part of the violent few who the police allowed into the Capitol Building. No evidence that a coup or insurrection or overthrow of the government was planned in fine detail has ever turned up.

MAGA is at war with the divisive destruction of our traditions and democracy as practiced by the far-left mafia that is occurring under the Biden administration, not the American people.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @4    3 years ago

The entire purpose of the Jan 6th event was to stop or delay the counting of the electoral votes in order to give Trump more time to pursue his false claims of a stolen election. The only one trying to steal the election was Trump. 

NONE of those people at the Capitol went there to simply protest. And anyway, what in holy fuck did they have to protest about? The fact that their god lost the election?  That is not a legitimate subject of protest. None of them should have been there at all, but they came at Trump's urging in order to try and "stop the steal". 

 
 
 
cjcold
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4.1.1  cjcold  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    3 years ago
"stop the steal"

The fact that they came armed to riot is documented.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5  TᵢG    3 years ago
What this exchange points out, starkly, is the extent to which conspiracy thinking has poisoned the national conversation and , to me, why there can be very little, if any, compromise with extreme MAGA.

Watched the portion you identified.

The irrational, emotional nonsense from the Trump sycophant is truly incredible to watch.    Even so, I have seen this very same sentiment, emotion, and nutcase conspiracy theory many times.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @5    3 years ago
Not that I have not seen this very same sentiment and emotion many times.

For sure. There is nothing unusual about this guy, there are millions of them. We dont often see it on video though. Well, other than the comical pathetic folks at the Trump rallies who get interviewed. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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5.2  Greg Jones  replied to  TᵢG @5    3 years ago

"At this point, what difference does it make?"  

~Hillary Clinton

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5.2.1  TᵢG  replied to  Greg Jones @5.2    3 years ago

The difference now is that Trump is not yet the nominee and, assuming he secures the nomination, he is not yet the President-elect.

The votes matter.   They make a difference.

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.3  bugsy  replied to  TᵢG @5    3 years ago
Even so, I have seen this very same sentiment, emotion, and nutcase conspiracy theory many times.

So have I, especially those on here that claim over and over that, even with overwhelming evidence of corruption, Joe Biden is JUST NOT AS BAD as Trump.

My advice... don't ever disagree.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.3.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  bugsy @5.3    3 years ago

Biden is not as bad as Trump. 

That is obvious to everyone except conspiracy nuts and white nationalists. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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5.3.2  TᵢG  replied to  bugsy @5.3    3 years ago
Joe Biden is JUST NOT AS BAD as Trump

I cannot offhand think of any contemporary politician who is worse for this nation than Trump.   Trump has provided an abundance of evidence that should cause any rational adult to realize that this individual should never be allowed access to political power, much less the presidency.

 
 
 
cjcold
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5.3.3  cjcold  replied to  TᵢG @5.3.2    3 years ago

For his lifelong litany of crimes against We the People, Trump should spend the rest of his life in prison.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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5.3.4  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  cjcold @5.3.3    3 years ago
For his lifelong litany of crimes against We the People,

Exactly, were have the prosecutors been during his lifeline litany?

 
 

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