Transcript 0:00 um I feel like to young women 0:02 unironically they need to find a man 0:04 that’s very 0:07 misogynistic if you at all want to have 0:09 a guy that’s going to like make you 0:11 follow his frame and you need to find a 0:13 strong Christian man that’s going to put 0:16 you in your place or else you’re going 0:17 to dominate the relationship and when a 0:19 woman dominates the relationship it’s 0:21 destined for failure because I see even 0:23 how I was different like in my previous 0:26 relationship I was dominating and I was 0:28 such a like such a jezebel and you 0:32 know I wasn’t always like a good wife or 0:34 like this great like a or even Christian 0:37 I used to be atheist but he has 0:39 completely transformed who I am and how 0:41 I act because he’s such a strong 0:43 Christian man and he doesn’t let me get 0:45 by on things he always will nitpick 0:48 everything because he’s literally 0:50 training me how to be a good Christian 0:52 wife you need to be trained women are bitches 0:54 and they need to be trained so 0:56 that’s my advice find a man that will 0:58 train 0:58 you
Well, let's see. As I have already stated, the context is rather limited, but it hardly seems she's the submissive type. If she were, and having declared being atheist previously, she'd hardly need a Christian man to "get her off". In fact, if getting off were her major concern, she'd hardly go that direction.
I see her with a guy that she clearly admires (at the least) and who she describes as her 'trainer' while describing herself as a 'bitch'.
People react differently in different situations. Without attempting to be an armchair psychologist ("submissive personality") I am speaking based on her current circumstances, what she said, and her apparent pleasure with her relationship and her life.
... and having declared being atheist previously ...
People declare lots of things, Drakk. Who knows what she means by 'atheist'? She could have simply been irreligious / apathetic. People change their views based on experience and it would not surprise me that she adopted the beliefs (to whatever level) of a guy who enchants her.
... she'd hardly need a Christian man to "get her off"
I was not suggesting she got off because he is Christian. I was suggesting that she might have just found a guy who got her off and that she finds that she likes the strong, misogynistic type. People (especially when dealing with bio-chemical reactions) do all sorts of peculiar things.
My very proper aunt once said I was being a dildo. I asked if she knew what a dildo was. She said, "Yes, a dildo is a dumb man". So, I handed her a dictionary. After a moment she said, "No wonder the preacher gave me that look when I said he was being one"...
My very proper aunt once said I was being a dildo. I asked if she knew what a dildo was. She said, "Yes, a dildo is a dumb man". So, I handed her a dictionary. After a moment she said, "No wonder the preacher gave me that look when I said he was being one"...
Are you suggesting that she means something very different than what one would expect when she used the word "bitch"? She certainly was using it in a context that suggests 'demanding and irrational'.
I am quite aware of the evolution of language and the quicker evolution of slang.
What meaning do you recommend that we take for her use of the words "bitch" and "train" given the context established in the video and basic facts such as her gender, age-group, religious beliefs, orientation, etc.?
Y'know how the word "groovy" in the 1960s didn't actually mean "full of grooves"?
The two I though were interesting-- over different time periods "cool" meant really great. At other times "Wow that's really hot" meant the same thing.
Of course you'd really date yourself if you said something like:
I have heard this term but did not understand it. It just seemed like another way to demean women. So I googled and found an in-depth article that hopefully was factual because it is a term used to demean women according to the article.
Like all the most successful slurs, the term embodies both descriptive power and judgment. (The word bears no relation to the anti-Japanese slur .) When JAP is utilized in its Jew-on-Jew sense — by leaps and bounds its most common application — it can serve as a means of impartial description, as well as a tool for policing other Jews. (See: “White ripped denim is the JAP look of the moment” versus “We bought a house in Westchester because Long Island was such an unbearable JAP scene!”)
If one ever self-identifies as a JAP, it is usually only temporarily, or in jest. (Filling a cart with $30 Kérastase shampoo: “Oh, my god, I’m such a JAP!”)
JAP is rarely used outside the Jewish world — only by goyim in very Jewish cities, and usually playfully so. A second-degree ethnic slur, it is far too acute to be useful in places where people don’t know many actual Jews. On those milk-and-meat main streets, Jews don’t have midlevel designer handbags or custom window treatments; they have horns . There, the top-level pejorative is “Jew.”
because it is a term used to demean women according to the article.
I grew up in a mostly Jewish area and went to a majority Jewish high school JAP was used all the time among my Jewish friends and their families, and was not considered demeaning at all.
It is one of those words you want to use with great care if you're a goy, though. Some folks won't mind at all, others will get a little ruffled, some with think it's hilarious.
I grew up in a mostly Jewish area and went to a majority Jewish high school JAP was used all the time among my Jewish friends and their families, and was not considered demeaning at all.It is one of those words you want to use with great care if you're a goy, though. Some folks won't mind at all, others will get a little ruffled, some with think it's hilarious.
Interesting. Thanks.
I grew up in an impoverished rural area in Northwest Arkansas with very little diversity so I'm still learning about different cultures. Probably always will be.
Ugh. Gross. We are doomed as a society. This lady is beyond stupid and 100% out of touch with her surroundings. If she exchanged the word “Christian” with the word “Muslim” this would be just as wrong but it would at least make more sense.
My first reaction is there are people who will do and/or say anything to be noticed and make money on social media. There are no boundaries other than what the platform allows.
I suspect these people are money and attention whores.
However, it could also be an example of a sadist finding a masochist. Next up they could be advertising their preferred bondage gear and proper torture/pleasure devices.
This is why I spend most of my time trying to understand what creates such toxic personalities and how those toxic personalities literally cause the diseases of our body and destruction of our society.
It is best to avoid toxic people because of the harm they do to our immune system just by having to interact with them. If anyone takes advice from them or sees them as a role model - then the toxicity only multiplies.
This is why I spend most of my time trying to understand what creates such toxic personalities
Its not the sole cause of course, but one thing that contributes greatly is the Internet.
Often its like classical conditioning-- Pavlov's Dog. Chickens pecking at a lever in a Skinner box (to get a pellet of food).
So what's the reward online? "Views". Or "Likes" Or "Followers".
Tic Tok is one of the worst-- i.e. IMO if you know what works you can pile up a really large number of likes-- and better yet "folowers-- with the stupidiest stuff. And then your stupid behaviour gets reinforced.
Its not the sole cause of course, but one thing that contributes greatly is the Internet.
The Internet does not create personality disorders. Psychopaths are born. Sociopaths are created - usually by parents who worship their child instead of correcting them.
Narcissistic Personality Disorder is debated by many sources, but I find Vaknin's theory that NPD is created when the child does not successfully separate from their mother (or mother figure) at around the age of 18 months of age to be the most credible. The child never develops a self - a true personality. They wander through life like a lost child searching for someone to be a substitute mother so they can adore them, then devalue them, and finally discard them. They have no empathy or positive emotions for other people. NPD is not treatable.
Of course, the psychopaths and narcissist find the internet a useful tool to use people whenever their needs are not being met elsewhere.
According to my own personal experience and Vaknin's description of personality disorders, I am married to a psychopathic (malignant) narcissist.
For the people, who think their lives are not impacted by psychopathic (malignant) narcissists, then it is only because they don't recognize the personality in their government reps and world leaders. Particularly, the world leaders that are seeking avenues to wage war instead of doing everything possible to avoid them.
According to Vaknin, between 3 and 6 percent of people have NPD. I have read the number is at least double and rising.
The following video has some of the best insight into NPD in a fairly brief interview.
This is why I spend most of my time trying to understand what creates such toxic personalities
In addition to what's already been mentioned-- I think the general tone of this country changed (for this worse) after one particulary powerful (But sleazy) politician did their best to stir up hatred, to divide us.
And there are many who are conned by "powerful" cult leaders ....
I think the general tone of this country changed (for this worse) after one particulary powerful (But sleazy) politician did their best to stir up hatred, to divide us.
In the last 6 decades, which, of the US presidents and presidential candidates, did not stir up hatred and divide us?
I saw an article that when she has a concert in an area, the sales are so YUGE that she actually improves the economy of that area for quite a while. (Especially the "Merch)
I'm usually not familiar with celebrities. In fact when I heard how incredibly popular she was I took an instant dislike to her just for that.
But the I actually looked at her (reels on Youtube but also saw her on TV). And realized deep down inside she's a really good person-- in fact IMO people like that are hard to find.
(You wouldnt find many people like her in, for example, the U.S. House of Representatives). Or many corporate CEOs.
here is the you tube transcript for those who cant see the video
Transcript
0:00
um I feel like to young women
0:02
unironically they need to find a man
0:04
that’s very
0:07
misogynistic if you at all want to have
0:09
a guy that’s going to like make you
0:11
follow his frame and you need to find a
0:13
strong Christian man that’s going to put
0:16
you in your place or else you’re going
0:17
to dominate the relationship and when a
0:19
woman dominates the relationship it’s
0:21
destined for failure because I see even
0:23
how I was different like in my previous
0:26
relationship I was dominating and I was
0:28
such a like such a jezebel and you
0:32
know I wasn’t always like a good wife or
0:34
like this great like a or even Christian
0:37
I used to be atheist but he has
0:39
completely transformed who I am and how
0:41
I act because he’s such a strong
0:43
Christian man and he doesn’t let me get
0:45
by on things he always will nitpick
0:48
everything because he’s literally
0:50
training me how to be a good Christian
0:52
wife you need to be trained women are bitches
0:54
and they need to be trained so
0:56
that’s my advice find a man that will
0:58
train
0:58
you
I wonder how many people there actually are out there who follow this "way of life".
Hopefully none.
Why? There's very little context to what she's saying. What does she mean by "training"? Why is it she seems to prefer current conditions vs previous?
Seriously, I suspect she found a guy that gets her off.
Um, did you give this any thought before stating this?
Of course. Why ask such a question?
Well, let's see. As I have already stated, the context is rather limited, but it hardly seems she's the submissive type. If she were, and having declared being atheist previously, she'd hardly need a Christian man to "get her off". In fact, if getting off were her major concern, she'd hardly go that direction.
Do you see her as a submissive personality?
I see her with a guy that she clearly admires (at the least) and who she describes as her 'trainer' while describing herself as a 'bitch'.
People react differently in different situations. Without attempting to be an armchair psychologist ("submissive personality") I am speaking based on her current circumstances, what she said, and her apparent pleasure with her relationship and her life.
People declare lots of things, Drakk. Who knows what she means by 'atheist'? She could have simply been irreligious / apathetic. People change their views based on experience and it would not surprise me that she adopted the beliefs (to whatever level) of a guy who enchants her.
I was not suggesting she got off because he is Christian. I was suggesting that she might have just found a guy who got her off and that she finds that she likes the strong, misogynistic type. People (especially when dealing with bio-chemical reactions) do all sorts of peculiar things.
Then just jump his bones....don't marry him! After awhile she'll get tired of all the good sex. I did
Oh. Right. Forgot who I was talking to. Never mind.
Why go into (vague) attack mode? To what end?
It is a scientific fact that biochemical reactions in our brains can (even dramatically) affect our behavior.
Well we've seen the "before"-- I'd like the see the "after".
After what, you ask?
After she tripped out on psychedelics.
MMMM-- yeah, I'd like to see her do A yahuasca!
{M. giggles into his beer}
Oh, probably your typical Muslim.
And it seems like a lot of Black dudes don't have much respect for their women either.
There are cultures that demean women.
Thanks for the reminder.
Strangely enough, the two people in the video are neither Muslims or black. Thanks for showing us where your mind is Greg.
Apparently that includes Christian nationalists.
Nope.
Just stating the truth, while you deflect and deny.
Apparently she was an atheist and then became a Christian because she thinks she needs to be "trained".
OMFG
I have a feeling if they were we would not be seeing the video here.
More proof than one couple of yoyos would be nice
Yes. The sheer horror and the obvious cry for help is unmistakable in the video.
And yes, that's sarcasm.
Actually, women have been training me my whole life.
I still leave the toilet seat up and am proud of it!
Why is that a point of pride?
Wouldn’t that be fascist behavior?
As a minimum, very inconsiderate behavior to any females living with you.
Do you have any idea what it's like to fall in the bowl because someone left the seat up?
I hope you respect them enough to at least flush when you're finished!
I grew up with several sisters and have several daughters. It's out of respect for them that I put the seat down - and I always flush.
Do you also roll up the tube of toothpaste?
Who is this couple? How many have been exposed to their ‘message’?
Gotta love a bunch of old farts sitting around bitching about young people without understanding language or context.
My dad would cook sausages on the grill and call them tube steaks.
Had to take him aside once and tell him about modern vernacular.
My very proper aunt once said I was being a dildo. I asked if she knew what a dildo was. She said, "Yes, a dildo is a dumb man". So, I handed her a dictionary. After a moment she said, "No wonder the preacher gave me that look when I said he was being one"...
I can’t imagine why you aunt thought of you as a dumb man.
That's brilliant.
Also brilliant.
This is a common mistake from you.
A common mistake for a Russian
A common mistake if English is a second language.
Someone has yet to get unconfused about life.
Y'know how the word "groovy" in the 1960s didn't actually mean "full of grooves"?
Your comment is a bit vague.
Are you suggesting that she means something very different than what one would expect when she used the word "bitch"? She certainly was using it in a context that suggests 'demanding and irrational'.
In short, what point are you making?
That they don't use terminology literally, nor do they use it the same way people 30 years older do.
That would include, but not be limited to, words like "bitch" or "train".
I am quite aware of the evolution of language and the quicker evolution of slang.
What meaning do you recommend that we take for her use of the words "bitch" and "train" given the context established in the video and basic facts such as her gender, age-group, religious beliefs, orientation, etc.?
The two I though were interesting-- over different time periods "cool" meant really great. At other times "Wow that's really hot" meant the same thing.
Of course you'd really date yourself if you said something like:
Cool Daddy-O!
Used to live with a Jewish princess and that's how she considered me. I allowed that training just because she was perfect in bed.
I have heard this term but did not understand it. It just seemed like another way to demean women. So I googled and found an in-depth article that hopefully was factual because it is a term used to demean women according to the article.
Let us think about that.
Being great in bed can really make up for many negative traits....
Yeah...but after awhile even that gets boring
I grew up in a mostly Jewish area and went to a majority Jewish high school JAP was used all the time among my Jewish friends and their families, and was not considered demeaning at all.
It is one of those words you want to use with great care if you're a goy, though. Some folks won't mind at all, others will get a little ruffled, some with think it's hilarious.
Interesting. Thanks.
I grew up in an impoverished rural area in Northwest Arkansas with very little diversity so I'm still learning about different cultures. Probably always will be.
Ugh. Gross. We are doomed as a society. This lady is beyond stupid and 100% out of touch with her surroundings. If she exchanged the word “Christian” with the word “Muslim” this would be just as wrong but it would at least make more sense.
Down the road, I suspect she will see this video and be mortified. People go through phases, especially at such a young age. She is naive.
Maybe this is her “Trump can grab my pussy” moment.
Aren't you the guy who was whining this morning about content and then you dirty up the place with this? Classy
Interesting.
Directly quoting Trump produces a "dirty" result ? Who would have imagined that?
Why and when would Trump say "Trump can grab my pussy"
Direct quote my ass. Point is his commentary dissed shit like that.
You're right , the direct quote is "they let you grab their pussy". Do you seriously think you are going to win this argument?
Already did. You just admitted as much.
My first reaction is there are people who will do and/or say anything to be noticed and make money on social media. There are no boundaries other than what the platform allows.
I suspect these people are money and attention whores.
However, it could also be an example of a sadist finding a masochist. Next up they could be advertising their preferred bondage gear and proper torture/pleasure devices.
This is why I spend most of my time trying to understand what creates such toxic personalities and how those toxic personalities literally cause the diseases of our body and destruction of our society.
It is best to avoid toxic people because of the harm they do to our immune system just by having to interact with them. If anyone takes advice from them or sees them as a role model - then the toxicity only multiplies.
I think you may be one to something
I hope so.
Every time I watch a woman play up to a controlling man, I see Gabby Petito.
I think you're right-- almost all of them.
And then there are the "CamGirls" ("OnlyMembers" etc).
Online many are in it solely for the money. Or attention. Or both.
My personal site to hate the most is Instagram. Yuk!
Its not the sole cause of course, but one thing that contributes greatly is the Internet.
Often its like classical conditioning-- Pavlov's Dog. Chickens pecking at a lever in a Skinner box (to get a pellet of food).
So what's the reward online? "Views". Or "Likes" Or "Followers".
Tic Tok is one of the worst-- i.e. IMO if you know what works you can pile up a really large number of likes-- and better yet "folowers-- with the stupidiest stuff. And then your stupid behaviour gets reinforced.
The Internet does not create personality disorders. Psychopaths are born. Sociopaths are created - usually by parents who worship their child instead of correcting them.
Narcissistic Personality Disorder is debated by many sources, but I find Vaknin's theory that NPD is created when the child does not successfully separate from their mother (or mother figure) at around the age of 18 months of age to be the most credible. The child never develops a self - a true personality. They wander through life like a lost child searching for someone to be a substitute mother so they can adore them, then devalue them, and finally discard them. They have no empathy or positive emotions for other people. NPD is not treatable.
Of course, the psychopaths and narcissist find the internet a useful tool to use people whenever their needs are not being met elsewhere.
According to my own personal experience and Vaknin's description of personality disorders, I am married to a psychopathic (malignant) narcissist.
For the people, who think their lives are not impacted by psychopathic (malignant) narcissists, then it is only because they don't recognize the personality in their government reps and world leaders. Particularly, the world leaders that are seeking avenues to wage war instead of doing everything possible to avoid them.
According to Vaknin, between 3 and 6 percent of people have NPD. I have read the number is at least double and rising.
The following video has some of the best insight into NPD in a fairly brief interview.
Back in the dark ages when I was a teenager, parents told their kids "If your friends jumped off a cliff, would you follow them?"
Even back then, sometimes the answer was "Yes".
I appreciated my (ex) father-in-law's advice to his six children "Experience is a cruel teacher, but a fool will learn from none other".
In addition to what's already been mentioned-- I think the general tone of this country changed (for this worse) after one particulary powerful (But sleazy) politician did their best to stir up hatred, to divide us.
And there are many who are conned by "powerful" cult leaders ....
In the last 6 decades, which, of the US presidents and presidential candidates, did not stir up hatred and divide us?
Personally, I don't remember any.
Admire Kelce and the gentlemanly way he treats Swift.
But above all, Mahomes throws and Kelce catches and runs.
I think Swift is a genius. Seriously.
I saw an article that when she has a concert in an area, the sales are so YUGE that she actually improves the economy of that area for quite a while. (Especially the "Merch)
I'm usually not familiar with celebrities. In fact when I heard how incredibly popular she was I took an instant dislike to her just for that.
But the I actually looked at her (reels on Youtube but also saw her on TV). And realized deep down inside she's a really good person-- in fact IMO people like that are hard to find.
(You wouldnt find many people like her in, for example, the U.S. House of Representatives). Or many corporate CEOs.
Although I really like people like Tim Cook....