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Republicans In Congress Are A Bunch Of Election Denying Clowns

  
By:  John Russell  •  3 years ago  •  34 comments


Republicans In Congress Are A Bunch Of Election Denying Clowns
Providing extended mail in voting does not constitute stealing an election. Period. Of course the courts adjudicated all this back in 2020. Three years later the Republican leadership is so under the thumb of Trump and MAGA that one of their leaders has to robotically mouth the ridiculous pretense that Trump lost because mail in balloting was allowed. 

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Something unbelievable happened on ABC's This Week this morning. 

Steve Scalise, the MAGA Republican who has a powerful position in Congress was asked if he could state definitively that the 2020  election was not stolen .  Scalise responded by saying that some states did not follow their election laws. 

George Stephanopolous, the interviewer , immediately sensed the incongruous nature of Scalise's response. "thats not what I asked you" Stephanopolous said. "Can you state that the 2020 election was not stolen? he repeated. 

He would go on to repeat the question five times, because Scalise gave the same non responsive answer five times. 

"Some states did not follow their election laws" is not a valid answer to "was the 2020 election stolen ?" unless you are an idiot. The only thing that creates a stolen election is votes from people who are not eligible to vote. Thats it. 

Providing extended mail in voting does not constitute stealing an election. Period. Of course the courts adjudicated all this back in 2020. Three years later the Republican leadership is so under the thumb of Trump and MAGA that one of their leaders has to robotically mouth the ridiculous pretense that Trump lost because mail in balloting was allowed. 

Where is the end to this? Does Trump have to meet his maker and leave the scene in that way for Republicans to put him in the rear view mirror?

But blame the MAGA rank and file , they are the ones these silly and feckless, and unpatriotic,  GOP leaders are in constant fear of. 


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JohnRussell
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1  author  JohnRussell    3 years ago

I'm sure the video of Scalise will be available online before long.  Check it out if you want to be depressed about our country today. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1    3 years ago

I saw the ridiculous nonsense. That question shouldn't even have been asked.

The changing of election laws in 2020 should have never been allowed. Scalise was right. There may not have been outright fraud, but everything possible was done in 2020 to help defeat Trump, just like now.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1    3 years ago

The question was pretty specific, "was the election stolen"?

Scalise did not answer the question. 

But ok, you tell us how allowing more mail in voting or drop boxes is EVIDENCE the election was stolen. 

Go ahead, lets hear it. 

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Before the election Trump was saying for months that if he lost it would be because the election was stolen from him. He brainwashed MAGA enough to believe it, and that is all there is to all this. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    3 years ago

Stolen:   past participle of   steal




rig   verb  

to   arrange   dishonestly   for the   result   of something

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.3  Ozzwald  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    3 years ago
Before the election Trump was saying for months that if he lost it would be because the election was stolen from him.

He also said that prior to the 2016 election.

Trump has longstanding history of calling elections 'rigged' if he doesn’t like the results

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.4  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.2    3 years ago
to   arrange   dishonestly   for the   result   of something

Vic, do you have any EVIDENCE that increased mail in voting cost Trump the election?  Just saying "laws were changed" isnt evidence of anything other than possibly that more people voted. 

Increased mail in voting is not "dishonestly arranging" anything.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.5  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.3    3 years ago

Of course. His success in politics depends entirely on the gullibility of his followers. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1.6  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.4    3 years ago

There was clear evidence of ballot harvesting and dumping...some Dem dummy did so in a local election last week....it was in the news. And there were numerous stories of votes accepted well after the election. While the Democrats are known for election cheating, and certainly did so, it's not likely to have changed the results of the election.

If I remember, there were lots bitching and complaining about the results of the 2116 election

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.1.7  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.5    3 years ago

In that respect, Joe Biden is absolutely no different. Something most hard core lefty liberals absolutely refuse to accept. I personally do not believe the election was deliberately stolen by Biden, but there certainly were cases of vote irregularities.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.8  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.4    3 years ago
Vic, do you have any EVIDENCE that increased mail in voting cost Trump the election?

We have data for only 15 of the 50 states, 1  but it tells a consistent story: Biden won the absentee vote in 14 out of the 15 states (all but Texas), and Trump won the Election Day vote in 14 out of the 15 as well (all but Connecticut). 2

Indeed, Trump won the in-person vote even in deep-blue states like Hawaii (by 71 percent to 27 percent). 3  He even won the Election Day vote in Biden’s home state of Delaware, though it was extremely close there (49.25 percent for Trump versus 49.19 percent for Biden). Conversely, Biden won the absentee vote even in reliably red states like Arkansas (61 percent to 37 percent) and South Carolina (60 percent to 39 percent). If we had data for all 50 states, we would likely see Trump winning the Election Day vote in almost all of them and Biden winning the absentee vote in almost all of them.

Absentee votes broke blue, Election Day votes red

How absentee and Election Day votes in the 2020 presidential election broke down by candidate in the 15 states tracking results by voting method

ABSENTEE ELECTION DAY
STATE BIDEN TRUMP MARGIN BIDEN TRUMP MARGIN GAP
Pennsylvania 76% 23% D+54 34% 65% R+32 85pt
Maryland 81 17 D+65 39 57 R+18 83
Hawaii† 66 32 D+33 27 71 R+44 77
North Carolina 70 28 D+42 33 65 R+32 75
Rhode Island 79 19 D+60 44 54 R+10 70
Arkansas 61 37 D+24 26 70 R+43 67
Oklahoma 58 40 D+18 26 72 R+46 65
Delaware 79 20 D+59 49 49 EVEN 59
Iowa 57 41 D+16 27 70 R+43 59
South Carolina 60 39 D+21 31 67 R+35 57
Connecticut 77 22 D+56 49 49 EVEN 55
Alaska 58 39 D+19 30 66 R+36 54
Georgia 65 34 D+30 38 60 R+23 53
Arizona* 52 47 D+5 32 66 R+34 38
Texas* 48 51 R+3 39 59 R+20 17

*Arizona and Texas do not distinguish between mail votes and in-person early votes.
†Hawaii does not distinguish between Election Day votes and in-person early votes.

SOURCE: STATE ELECTION OFFICIALS

At the very least, the magnitude of this divide would have shocked anyone looking at the same data for 2016. Of these 15 states, 11 4  also broke down the results of the 2016 presidential election by voting method. And although absentee votes in 2016 were consistently more Democratic than Election Day votes (just as in 2020), the average gap between them was much small.
What Absentee Voting Looked Like In All 50 States | FiveThirtyEight

“They’re talking about people mailing in their ballots. Do you trust the security, the honesty of such an election process?”

“Well, I think we’d have to figure out whether this was fraud-proof.”

Those wise words were, once again,  spoken  by Obama. Back during the 2008 Democratic Primary when Florida was considering mail-in ballots, Obama specifically cited the need for signature verification, to ensure “they can check to make sure that the right people are voting.”

Now, lawsuits brought by the  George Soros-backed  election lawyer Marc Elias are seeking to gut those requirements. A Democrat lawsuit in Pennsylvania is seeking to prevent election officials from rejecting votes even if a signature on the ballot is completely different from the voter’s signature on file.

Want elections to be decided by the maneuverings of liberal election lawyers, where results are delayed for months, hundreds of ballots go missing, and duplicate votes are never scrutinized? That’s what happened in Minnesota, with Elias’s handiwork during the Senate recount in 2008. Seven months, “ 20,000 pages of legal briefs, and millions of dollars in election costs ” later, Al Franken emerged the victor with results swinging by over 1,000 votes in his favor. It was once Elias’s  proudest achievement , before he  represented  a group that  registered  dead voters, helped Hillary Clinton  take over  the DNC and smear her opponent with a dossier full of  lies  about President Donald Trump and Russia. When Democrats want to tilt elections in their favor outside the ballot box, they know who to call.
‘Chaos.’ ‘Fraud.’ Democrats Once Warned Against Voting Changes They Now Call For (townhall.com)

The SCOTUS refused to stand by State Legislatures so Elias got away with it.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.9  Ozzwald  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1.6    3 years ago
There was clear evidence of ballot harvesting and dumping.

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None of which was ever shown.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.1.11  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.10    3 years ago

and join the discussion here................

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.1.13  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.12    3 years ago

Of course not. You don't seem to want the truth. All I can do is provide so you don't have to wait any more. Seems you prefer to. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.14  Ozzwald  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.10    3 years ago
I'm still waiting for evidence PERIOD of any wrongdoing whatsoever by President Biden also.

His own people have testified that there was no wrongdoing in the election.

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Wishful_thinkin
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1.1.16  Wishful_thinkin  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.8    3 years ago

Biden had more mail-in ballot voters since Trump told his fans over and over not to vote by mail, which of course in turn means that Trump would have more in-person voters.  None of this should be a surprise to anyone.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  author  JohnRussell    3 years ago
Scalise was also separately pressed about the issue of the 2020 presidential election after Rep. Ken Buck, a Republican from Colorado, said last week that he would be retiring -- and   blamed conservatives' focus on election denialism .

"Can you say unequivocally the 2020 [presidential] election was not stolen?" Stephanopoulos asked Scalise.

The majority leader repeatedly declined to answer directly, instead raising concerns with how some states changed their voting rules in 2020 amid the COVID-19 pandemic.

"So you just refuse to say unequivocally that the 2020 election was not stolen?" Stephanopoulos said.

"You want to keep rehashing 2020. We're talking about the future," Scalise responded.

Scalise defends IRS cuts in GOP's Israel aid bill, won't say 2020 race was legitimate (msn.com)
 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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2.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  JohnRussell @2    3 years ago

24

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3  Sean Treacy    3 years ago

The democratic leader in the house is an election denying clown.

there’s no principle behind any of these attacks.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    3 years ago

The principle is that the House Majority leader should not feign ignorance or be regurgitating nonsense. Thats the principle.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    3 years ago

But it’s fine when democrats do it, that’s your only principle. 

 
 
 
fineline
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3.1.4  fineline  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.3    3 years ago

Oh, but they do. False religion, bigotry and greed !

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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3.1.5  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1.1    3 years ago

Of course, did you expect any different?

 
 
 
charger 383
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3.1.6  charger 383  replied to  fineline @3.1.4    3 years ago

Comment 3.1.4 was both flagged and responded to, so it will stand, charger

 
 
 
George
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3.1.7  George  replied to  charger 383 @3.1.6    3 years ago

I know I’m getting old, and my eyesight isn’t what it was. Who responded to 3.1.4? Other than you of course.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.1.8  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  George @3.1.7    3 years ago

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fineline
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3.1.10  fineline  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.9    3 years ago

The afore mentioned define GOP character/principles.

 
 
 
fineline
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3.1.12  fineline  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.11    3 years ago

Perhaps, but it speaks to their character/values.

 
 

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