Maker Of Anti-George Floyd Documentary Works At Right Wing Website
On another seed there is a story about a documentary movie about the George Floyd incident. The story claims that the movie implicates George Floyd in his own death, even though the police officer who knelt on Floyds neck for 9 minutes is in prison for the killing.
I noticed that on that seed comments about the source were not being allowed. Normally I would have put this material there, but instead of wasting time posting something that may get deleted , I will put it here.
Liz Collin is the name of the film maker. She works at a Minnesota conservative website called Alpha News.
Here are some of the stories Liz Collin has posted on Alpha News
White mom fears public schools are grooming her black daughter to hate her
"Critical race theory has specific harms for families like mine because these kids are being groomed to believe and to think that white people are oppressors and that black people are oppressed," said Jill McLaughlin, a Minnesota mom and parental rights activist.
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‘It’s a lie’: Women who regret their abortions speak out
"They tell you in there they are lightly going to suction out tissue and the machine sounds like the loudest vacuum ever. It’s like your insides are being pulled out. At that moment it's too late but you know this is the worst decision ever," one woman said.
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EXCLUSIVE: Woman collapsed at the Boston Marathon 15 days after getting vaccinated
Marathon runner Meghan Roth believes it’s time to tell her story now that she knows the truth about what made her collapse in cardiac arrest while running the Boston Marathon last October.
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EXCERPT: Keith Ellison, the criminal’s lawyer
Alpha News reporter Liz Collin dives into Attorney General Keith Ellison's history of defending and affiliating himself with criminals in her new bestselling book.
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Crime victim has had enough of Minnesota: ‘How can anyone enjoy this?’
"I can’t believe what’s happened to my hometown of St Paul. It’s become a real cesspool … It’s really, really sad," said Mike Woodley, a crime victim who said he's ready to leave his home state behind.
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‘Radical progressives’ are ‘targeting the minds of our children,’ senator says
"This is truly a satanic agenda," Sen. Eric Lucero said of Democrats' push to make Minnesota a "refuge" for children seeking harmful chemical and surgical gender transitions.
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Minnesota Moms for Liberty leader pushes back on ‘hate group’ label
Despite attacks from the Southern Poverty Law Center, Moms for Liberty Wright County chapter chair Angie Greig said she is seeing a "swell of parents" join the movement.
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As chaos hit Uptown, private security groups were often the last line of defense for businesses in the once-bustling neighborhood. In response, they were doxed and defamed by left-wing anarchist groups.
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Minnesota-based executive from South Korea speaks out against socialism
"I thought it's my duty to speak up and help people to realize what socialism is really all about to stop America from going down that path," said Jinny Choi, who came to the U.S. from South Korea as a sophomore in high school.
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You dont need to be a Sherlock Holmes to see what Liz Collin is all about.
While there is nothing wrong with being a pro-police anti-crime reporter, this woman appears to be more of a right wing advocate. Almost all of her stories on Alpha News bear some similarity to the ones I listed in the article.
Lot of anti-vax stuff, which is telltale.
OMG - next.
So, are you once again disputing the validity of a source(s) even if the facts contained in the story are true?
According to the forensic science, Mr. Floyd pretty much died of self-induced and natural causes, and the alleged knee on his neck did not contribute to his demise.
The creator of this film is clearly not at all objective going into it. The "facts" ? The facts were argued at trial.
From the guy who regularly seeds leftist nonsense from the deepest bowels of the internet. That's hilarious. The man in the glass house is throwing stones.
She probably wasn't unbiased.
Neither was Michael Moore on any film he's ever made.
Neither was the Jan 6th Committee.
Neither are Rachel Maddow, Stephen Colbert, or Trevor Noah.
What's your point?
I regularly seed from the New York Times , the Washington Post, the Atlantic, the New Republic, CNN, and other mainstream news sites.
Meanwhile, you are famous here for being apathetic on the subject of Donald Trump. I like my position better.
The fact that you consider the Atlantic and New Republic as "mainstream" pretty much proves the point.
In order for this comment to not be nonsensical, one would have to conclude that Floyd would have died later that day from natural causes even if he was never stopped by the police that day.
...... had he just complied with the police none of this would have happened!
George Floyd was in a rather highly agitated state. There is nothing during that arrest that justifies kneeling on his neck.
JR, are you saying George Floyd cooperated with the officers?
Floyd was handcuffed and searched immediately after he exited his car. At that point he was no physical threat to the cops. This death happened because they grew agitated dealing with his agitation and his complaints. One can say anything they want about him "resisting" arrest. His resisting arrest was comprised of him not wanting to get into the squad car. That is cause for putting him face down on the pavement and kneeling on his neck? No.
Well.. when you arrest someone, you have to get them to the police station. Should they have just said OK, George we'll meet you there? In an overwhelming majority of these cases had the criminal just cooperated they would be alive.
Stop looking for so-called "rationales" that don't fit the facts found in a court of law. The officer was found guilty because of EXCESS force which resulted in the death of his fellow citizen . Officers are trained in arrest methods, procedures, and department policies.
As for those "alternative theories" on when and how Mr. Floyd might have died a day, several days, months, years later from drugs he liked to ingest. . . it's just conspiracy theory. That is, you can always find a dissenting opinion or several when its a high profile case . Sometimes, like "ambulance chaser" lawyers, you can always find a medical professional who is seeking fame and fortune to offer a different set of perspective—real and imagined.
The courts see no prevailing reason to take the officer's alternative view under any of its consideration. Thus, the case is settled base on the known and judged facts.
Former Officer Chauvin unlawfully ended Mr. Floyd's life on a street in Minneapolis, Minnesota by excessive force usage. He has been sentenced to 22 1/2 years in prison for doing so.
I watched the first 20 minutes or so of the documentary, which can be seen here
Alpha News documentary 'The Fall of Minneapolis' out now - Alpha News
The first 20 minutes is concerned entirely with Floyds arrest. There are cameras that show virtually the entire thing.
What struck me most was how frantic Floyd was, from the beginning. Not so much physically frantic as mentally frantic.
The first officer to confront him knocks on Floyds driver side window and immediately tells him get you fucking hands on the wheel. Nothing about what he was being stopped for. About five minutes pass before they even tell Floyd what he was being detained for ( trying to pass a counterfeit 20 dollar bill in a convenience store). From the get go the cops keep telling this obviously disturbed individual that he is resisting them, even though he was handcuffed behind his back immediately after he stepped out of his car. Even after Floyd is cuffed, there is never a calm moment in this interaction. They cross the street and tell him to get in the back seat of the squad. He says "I have claustrophobia" and they start shoving him into the squad car, and he mildly resists. And when I say mildly, remember he is handcuffed and had been searched for weapons. He just resists being pushed into the squad car, and it doesnt appear they ever got him completely in . Then he is pulled out of the car and put on the ground , stomach down. That is the end of the 1st 20 minutes of the film.
I see nothing in this footage that shows Floyd was any threat at all to these cops. What he was was distraught and "unco-perative". If the cops had been more calm and given Floyd a couple minutes to see if he could compose himself, the whole tragedy may have been avoidable. But because he was mentally and verbally agitated they became more agitated themselves.
I'm not sure why the filmmakers think this footage exonerates the cops. The movie also makes a thing about Floyd saying his mother recently died (this was 2020) when his mother actually died in 2018. (Wow, some gotcha there).
Cops get worn down by all the crazy shit they have to deal with, and begin to feel like they have to behave like they do in this footage in order to deal with the day to day.
IMO this was very unacceptable police conduct. Floyd could have and should have been handled in another way .
www.latimes.com /opinion/story/2020-06-05/george-floyd-arrest-police-killing
Injustice began the moment police approached George Floyd - Los Angeles Times
Nancy Gertner and Paul Butler 5-6 minutes 6/5/2020
If equal justice under the law had applied to George Floyd — justice equal to what the four cops now charged with his murder have received — he would never even have been arrested.
The tale of these arrests — one of a black man and that of four police officers — explains why there is justifiable rage on America’s streets.
On May 25, a store clerk in Minneapolis called the police because he suspected that Floyd had paid for a pack of cigarettes with a counterfeit $20 bill. But the store owner later said : “Most of the times when patrons give us a counterfeit bill, they don’t even know it’s fake.” The call should have started an investigation; that’s not what happened to Floyd.
Instead, within minutes of the police officers’ arrival, Floyd was facedown on the street, hands tied behind his back, with Derek Chauvin pressing his knee into his neck for nearly nine minutes, while two other cops restrained Floyd by pressing down on his back and legs, and the fourth officer kept distressed passersby from intervening. Floyd begged for his life, telling them that he couldn’t breathe. Soon, his body went limp and silent. He was declared dead at the hospital.
Chauvin was caught killing a man on video, while several eyewitnesses pleaded with him to stop. Yet he appeared completely calm, bored even, one hand nonchalantly in his pocket as Floyd died beneath his knee.
So casually did the cops arrest, brutalize and kill Floyd for nothing. And just as easily did Chauvin and the other three officers leave the scene of their crime. No police cars swarmed the scene to arrest the four officers. Chauvin went home that night a free man, and for the next three nights as well. The other officers were not arrested until Wednesday.
Initially, Hennepin County Dist. Atty. Mike Freeman said that there was not enough evidence to arrest anyone, adding “there is other evidence that does not support a criminal charge.” Not enough evidence? What conceivable other evidence could there have been?
There was, of course, no such benefit of the doubt given Floyd when he was arrested.
It took four days after the killing for the D.A. to arrest Chauvin and charge him with third-degree murder and manslaughter — and only after protests over George Floyd’s death began in nearly every major American city. The other three cops were not charged — even though any civilian who had helped a person charged with murder would probably have been quickly arrested.
It was not until Wednesday, after Minnesota Atty. Gen. Keith Ellison took over the case, that charges of felony aiding and abetting the murder were filed against the three officers. The charge against Chauvin was raised to second-degree murder.
Cases against cops are notoriously hard to win. The main witnesses for the prosecution are other cops and the blue wall of silence means that those officers can be uncooperative or worse — they may try to sabotage the prosecutor’s case. And, even when the evidence is overwhelming, jurors may still be hesitant to convict, because they sympathize with the officer.
These deeply embedded biases make holding cops accountable for their violence in criminal court extremely difficult.
Conversely, African American men such as George Floyd suffer from a presumption of guilt from the moment they encounter a police officer. Almost 50% of black men have been arrested by age 23, most often in connection with minor offenses that they don’t commit more frequently than white men. This arrest gap ultimately results in black men having a one in three chance of going to prison, compared with one in six for Latino men, and one in 17 for white men.
As a white former federal judge and an African American former federal prosecutor, we’ve seen these dynamics play out in courtrooms. But only one of us can imagine being treated by the police the way they treated George Floyd.
So much has to change in the criminal system and the broader society to prevent more killings of civilians at the hands of police. But we can start with the arrest.
Police should be required to issue citations in minor offenses because arrests too often escalate into tragedy. And every officer-involved death should be reviewed by an independent agency, rather than local district attorneys who often have conflicts of interest because they work with the cops every day.
The cornerstone of equal justice is treating all citizens alike. If the criminal system treated African Americans at the arrest-decision point the way it treats police suspects — such as Chauvin and his three colleagues — George Floyd would still be alive.
Nancy Gertner is a professor at Harvard Law School and a retired federal judge. Paul Butler is a professor at Georgetown University Law Center and the author of “Chokehold: Policing Black Men.”
Enough, Derek Chauvin was found guilty in a court of law and OJ was found innocent. The people have spoken and American justice is blind.
Derek is serving his time for 2nd Degree Murder and OJ is free to continue his quest to find Nicole’s killer.
Fortunately, LA wasn’t burned like Minneapolis was after their murders.
Perhaps if a dozen bystanders had recorded the murders of Nichole Simpson and Ron Brown...
Except for that, your analysis is worthless word.
Blah de blah blah blah. Like wind blowing a gale
A picture is worth a thousand words, that's what attracts you so much to memes.
Analysis? You've confused a couple of facts for analysis.
Why the redundancy? It's blowing a gale outside (= a strong wind is blowing).
When you are the last one here, you can turn out the lights.
SMH...
No use wasting electricity.
Tell that Minnesota Mom, Jill that if she doesn't think CRT should be taught I would gladly take her around the Twin Cities and show her why it should. We could start out in Phalan then on to Frogtown and then Rondo. A cooks tour of the non-white areas of her hometown, St. Paul. BTW the minority population of St. Paul is 49%. Next, we'll cross the Gichi-ziibi or for you, who don't speak Anishinaabe the Mighty Mississippi via the Hennepin St. Bridge and head to Phillips neighborhood then on to Franklin St and finally to Little Earth.
By now her blond head should be spinning.
BTW, Minneapolis is where the American Indian Movement was founded in 1968. The purpose was to protect Indians from the police, and non-Indians and to fight for our civil rights. A profound movement that changed the way the US Government dealt with the NAs.
Oh, back in the day the big sport for the Police was to stop an Indian on any charge, trumped up or not and beat the hell out of us and then drop us on the banks of the Mississippi and if we were beat bad enough and one of the cops had any feelings they would do a rolling stop in front of the closest ER and dump us out. The LEO term for this sport was ''Rolling Indians''. How cool is that?
Man, the good old days haven't changed that much in Twin Cities.