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Trump Doubles Down On His New Election Conspiracy Theory For 2024

  
Via:  John Russell  •  2 years ago  •  25 comments


Trump Doubles Down On His New Election Conspiracy Theory For 2024
“Every time somebody sees me in court, remember, Joe Biden and his thugs that surround him did it,” he said at the impromptu press conference.  Trump’s legal problems, of course, go beyond his past attempts to overturn the will of the voting public. 

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F ormer President Donald Trump is going all in on his new election-related conspiracy theory: that almost every one of his legal problems have been personally orchestrated by President Joe Biden.

Even, apparently, the state-level cases. 

“My legal issues, every one of them, every one — the civil and the criminal ones — are all set up by Joe Biden. Crooked Joe Biden,” Trump said outside a New York courthouse where his civil fraud trial was wrapping up Thursday. 


“Every single, just about, case that I’m involved in was set up by Biden. They’re doing it for election interference,” Trump said. 

He expressed   similar sentiments   Wednesday, when he predicted that his election loss would bring “bedlam.” 

While Trump spent much of his time after losing the 2020 election complaining about supposed voter fraud, this time around he seems to have a new bogeyman. 

The former president also appears to be employing one of his favorite tactics, taking something people are saying about him and spinning it around to use against his opponents. (Or as The New York Times recently put it, “ I’m rubber. You’re glue .”) In this case, there is strong evidence that Trump   really did meddle   in the 2020 presidential election in order to hold onto power.

“Every time somebody sees me in court, remember, Joe Biden and his thugs that surround him did it,” he said at the impromptu press conference. 


Trump’s legal problems, of course, go beyond his past attempts to overturn the will of the voting public. 

His New York trial revolves around fraudulent business practices where real estate assets were allegedly inflated or deflated in value to help Trump skimp out on taxes or secure bank loans. One of the federal criminal cases against him stems from classified government documents that he is accused of storing improperly and insecurely at his golf resort home. And E. Jean Carroll, the writer who maintains that Trump once raped her in a department store dressing room, is suing him again for defamation. 

Trump has so many legal problems that one reporter asked him what percentage of his time he expects to spend in court versus the campaign trail. 

“In a way, I guess you’d consider it part of the campaign,” Trump said of his courtroom appearances. He generally takes time to comment to the media when he shows up at court.


Trump also   spoke out in court on Thursday   for several minutes in defiance of Judge Arthur Engoron, who had said Trump was not allowed to speak if he couldn’t agree to stick to relevant topics. 

“I want to go to all of my trials,” Trump said outside the courtroom.

He added: “This is their new form of cheating.”


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    2 years ago

He is laying the ground for when he loses in November and does not accept the result.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 years ago

Will you accept the result when Trump wins this November?

No way in hell that old man Joe can pull off a second term. The talk on the street is that he will develop some kind of medical condition by early spring.

J.P. Morgan Analyst Predicts Timing of When Biden Will Drop Out, How He Will Be Replaced – RedState

 
 
 
Snuffy
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1.1.1  Snuffy  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    2 years ago

I agree that I don't believe Biden can win in November as this time he is running against his record as president and IMO it's a terrible record, especially for the middle & lower income people who have to see more and more of their paychecks going to the grocery stores and rent.

But how much will it cost the DNC to promote a new candidate at this late stage? I think a good half (if not more, but I didn't count) of the state filing deadlines have passed so they cannot get a new candidate on the ballot. And I believe running a write-in candidacy is very expensive.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Snuffy @1.1.1    2 years ago
I agree that I don't believe Biden can win in November as this time he is running against his record

Can Trump win? 

 
 
 
Snuffy
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1.1.3  Snuffy  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.2    2 years ago
I agree that I don't believe Biden can win in November as this time he is running against his record
Can Trump win? 

Possibly. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.4  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Snuffy @1.1.3    2 years ago

Interesting , since he is a traitor.  I guess, as Christie said the other day, we (the American people) will find out who we are over the next 10 months. 

 
 
 
Snuffy
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1.1.5  Snuffy  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.4    2 years ago
Interesting , since he is a traitor.  I guess, as Christie said the other day, we (the American people) will find out who we are over the next 10 months. 

In the colloquial definition, but not in the legal definition. So there's really nothing there to prevent him from running. So will he win? We'll find out in November.

Based on his record, do you think Biden can win?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.6  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Snuffy @1.1.5    2 years ago

I didnt say he will be or should be prevented from running, I will leave that to the legal experts. 

Someone is either a traitor or they are not, it is the result of their actions, not merely the law.  There are numerous ways trump can be described as a traitor, and I wont go into them now , I have already on other seeds. 

Will the American people vote for a traitor, that is the question for 2024. 

 
 
 
Snuffy
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1.1.7  Snuffy  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.6    2 years ago

Interesting in how you deflect away from what I wrote, where we basically have said the same thing. Yes, Trump is a traitor based on the colloquial definition and people are certainly free to entertain such ideas. Will he win is basically the same as will the American people vote for a person they consider a traitor.  We will see.

But what about the last line? You ignored that one. Based on his record do you think Biden can win in November?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.8  TᵢG  replied to  Snuffy @1.1.5    2 years ago

While unlikely, the SCotUS might uphold that the interpretation of the 14th § 3 does not require a finding of criminal guilt.

Short of that, there is nothing to prevent him from running other than health.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.9  TᵢG  replied to  Snuffy @1.1.7    2 years ago
Based on his record do you think Biden can win in November?

It would not be based primarily on his record, it would be based primarily on his opponent.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.1.10  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Snuffy @1.1.7    2 years ago
Based on his record do you think Biden can win in November?

He shouldn't but we shall see I guess. Actually if it is he and Trump on the ballot, we will have the choice of the lesser traitor this time with John's presumptions as the border is being neglected and his numero uno job is to protect the citizens of the US. It is a fucking invasion from 150 countries all over the world.......................and needs to STOP

 
 
 
Snuffy
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1.1.11  Snuffy  replied to  TᵢG @1.1.8    2 years ago
While unlikely, the SCotUS might uphold that the interpretation of the 14th § 3 does not require a finding of criminal guilt.

I agree it's unlikely. I doubt that SCOTUS would like to go that route as it opens up a huge can of worms. I think it's more likely that they use Section 5 and state that Congress has the authority to enforce the other parts of the 14th Amendment which then gets SCOTUS off the hook. 

 
 
 
Snuffy
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1.1.12  Snuffy  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.10    2 years ago
lesser traitor 

Lessor Traitor...  Lessor Satan....   Oh god, we are turning into Iran...  AHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!            /s

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.13  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1.10    2 years ago

Illegal immigrants have been coming to America for decades. Were all those other presidents during those decades traitors too?

The United States government was under attack on January 6 2021. Trump knew that because he was watching it on television. Still, he sat there with his thumb up his ass, BECAUSE he wanted the riot to succeed. That is a traitor, my friend.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1.14  TᵢG  replied to  Snuffy @1.1.11    2 years ago

Hard to predict, but I think the SCotUS will do anything to avoid them being the body that deems Trump ineligible for the entire nation.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.1.15  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.13    2 years ago

And we have hundreds of thousands of unwelcome "visitors" (read invaders) coming through now burdening the system as well as the tax paying public and very little is being done to stop it. THAT is also a traitor my friend. 

What is it going to take to wake people the fuck up? Another 9-11?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2  TᵢG    2 years ago
“My legal issues, every one of them, every one — the civil and the criminal ones — are all set up by Joe Biden. Crooked Joe Biden,” 

The usual simplistic lie designed to exploit the gullible and ignorant.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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3  Greg Jones    2 years ago

"the gullible and ignorant."

Do you mean all the 73.6 million popular votes he received in 2020, and likely to receive even more this time around. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1  TᵢG  replied to  Greg Jones @3    2 years ago
Do you mean all the 73.6 million popular votes he received in 2020, and likely to receive even more this time around. 

I mean those who believe his lies.   As I wrote.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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3.1.1  afrayedknot  replied to  TᵢG @3.1    2 years ago

“I mean those who believe his lies.”

That it numbers in the millions is simply alarming. Don’t they know they are being punked? He couldn’t care less about them, couldn’t care less about the country, and as always, only cares about himself…digressing at this juncture to avoiding a jail sentence. Not very presidential…totally focused on self preservation. 

It is a cult, a cultish phenomenon the likes of which we have never seen. Not just alarming at this level, but frightening in its self confessed and rabid appetite for revenge. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1.2  TᵢG  replied to  afrayedknot @3.1.1    2 years ago

They do not realize that he holds them in contempt.   It is sickening, but that seems to be our reality.   Until the Trump phenomenon, I greatly underestimated the level of stupidity in the electorate.   And this saddens me.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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3.1.3  afrayedknot  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.2    2 years ago

“And this saddens me.”

Nothing like it in our convoluted history. The next year promises nothing but strife as the dialogue will be so diminished as to make any sane voice mute in the process. Here’s to some sense of sanity prevailing in these dark daze. 

 
 
 
Snuffy
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3.2  Snuffy  replied to  Greg Jones @3    2 years ago

I'm not so sure we'll see the same volume of turnout this November that we saw back in 2020. I think if Biden and Trump are the two nominees, then there will be a lot of people who just don't bother to come out to vote.  We will see but I think a lot of voters are just fed up with both of them.

An accompanying thought to that, if voter turnout is greatly reduced because of that, what does that mean for our two political parties? There's already been a loud cry that we need new blood in Washington, continuing to re-elect the same old frauds has not done good things for our country.  This could be the start of some rather interesting times.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.2.1  TᵢG  replied to  Snuffy @3.2    2 years ago
I think if Biden and Trump are the two nominees, then there will be a lot of people who just don't bother to come out to vote.

I agree.

 
 

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