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 NIKKI HALEY reminded everyone how easy it is to get under Trump’s skin.

  
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 NIKKI HALEY reminded everyone how easy it is to get under Trump’s skin.
33% of voters who participated in the Republican primary said they would not support Trump in the general election if he were the nominee. That gap could just be a function of more Democrats and anti-Trump independents streaming into the competitive Republican primary where they got a chance to vote against Trump. But for all the talk of Biden’s weakness with his own party, the exit polls showed far more division and factionalism within the GOP.

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TRUMP’S RETURN TO FORM — Good morning from Concord, New Hampshire, where last night NIKKI HALEY reminded everyone how easy it is to get under Trump’s skin.

First off, Haley failed. A week and a half ago she had a credible plan: Come in second in Iowa, and beat Trump in New Hampshire. That was the only way to make this a race.

Getting close to second (i.e., third) in Iowa doesn’t count. Getting “close to half of the vote” in New Hampshire, as Haley said last night, doesn’t count. But you could hardly blame her for spinning the results positively at her election night event here.

What was more revealing was Trump’s reaction.

He rage-posted about her speech in real time on Truth Social. “DELUSIONAL!!!” he wrote. When he came on stage at his own event 30 miles south in Nashua, he could barely contain his anger. Gone was the sunny Trump of Iowa caucus night who magnanimously praised his defeated rivals.

Trump began his remarks with a falsehood. He claimed to have won New Hampshire in both the primaries and the general election. Nope: HILLARY CLINTON beat him there in 2016 and JOE BIDEN won in 2020. This was a particularly noteworthy claim at the top given the subject of his remarks: the fact that Haley did “a speech like she won” even though she lost by 11 points.

“This is not your typical victory speech,” he warned, and he was right. As the clear victor, he had one job: ignore Haley and focus on Biden and the general election. But he couldn’t let it go.

He attacked her as unelectable. He suggested New Hampshire Gov. CHRIS SUNUNU uses drugs (“He’s got to be on something”). He hinted darkly that she would be under investigation (“a little stuff that she doesn’t want to talk about”). He even mocked her outfit (“the fancy dress that probably wasn’t so fancy”).

He handed the program over to VIVEK RAMASWAMY, who Trump said had helped instigate the plan to focus on Haley and was “the only person more angry” than him. (He quickly clarified, “I don’t get mad, I get even.”) Ramaswamy got a few more shots in at Haley. After 20 minutes of this, Trump explained his curveball of a speech. “I felt I should do this,” he said, “because I find in life you can’t let people get away with bullshit.”

Haley’s campaign seemed pleased to get under Trump’s skin. “Why is he so angry?” a member of Team Haley told Playbook. “For someone who’s not threatened by Nikki, he sure talks about her every chance he gets.”

The Biden team was cheered by the drama. A campaign aide texted Playbook taking note of Trump’s fit: “That’s the guy we will beat.”

Over in the Democrats’ unsanctioned primary, Biden won easily as write-in candidate. Biden staffers say they are happy to have Haley and Trump go a few more rounds, but they believe New Hampshire settled the matter of who the party’s nominees will be.

To emphasize the point, the Biden campaign  released a new line of merch  with a new slogan: “Together, We Will Defeat Donald Trump. Again.”

Despite Trump botching the pivot to the general election messaging with his attacks on Haley, the rest of the GOP is coalescing around him.

“I’m looking at the map and the path going forward, and I don’t see it for Nikki Haley,” RNC chair RONNA McDANIEL, supposedly a neutral arbiter of the primary process,  said last night on Fox News . “I think she ran a great campaign. I think there is a message from the voters which is clear: We need to unite around our eventual nominee, which is going to be Donald Trump.”

Holdouts in the Senate, a bastion of Trump resistance, are coming on board. JOHN CORNYN (R-Texas) and DEB FISCHER (R-Neb.) posted their  unequivocal   support  last night after the race was called.

The exit polls, meanwhile, revealed potential weaknesses for both Biden and Trump: 10% of voters who cast a ballot in the Democratic primary said they would not ultimately back Biden in November if he wins the nomination.

But that number was  much  larger for Trump: 33% of voters who participated in the Republican primary said they would not support Trump in the general election if he were the nominee.

That gap could just be a function of more Democrats and anti-Trump independents streaming into the competitive Republican primary where they got a chance to vote against Trump. But for all the talk of Biden’s weakness with his own party, the exit polls showed far more division and factionalism within the GOP.

While she insists she will make a last stand in South Carolina, the exit polls also included one stat that is ominous for Haley’s chances going forward. She received the support of only 25% of self-described Republicans who voted yesterday. You can’t win the Republican nomination if you can’t win Republicans.


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    2 years ago

Trump accomplished one goal - he humiliated Tim Scott, for fun. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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2  Kavika     2 years ago

I don't know why the Republicans are bothering with primaries. Trump is the nominee and the rest are dog shit.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Kavika @2    2 years ago

"Republicans" don't want Haley, they want chaos.  Been going on every day for 8 1/2 years now.  America must have really offended the Almighty to get punished like this. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.2  Ozzwald  replied to  Kavika @2    2 years ago

Trump is the nominee and the rest are dog shit.

They need a standby in case Trump has to finish his campaign from a jail cell.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3  Nerm_L    2 years ago

There have been only two goddammed primaries and the fucking unbiased liberal press have already coronated Donald Trump.  Liberals are disenfranchising the entire electorate to do what?  Sell clickbait?

If the best our political system can offer is Donald Trump and Joe Biden then we are so screwed.  So, why is the unbiased liberal press trying to screw over the entire country? 

 
 
 
JBB
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3.1  JBB  replied to  Nerm_L @3    2 years ago

The United States is doing GREAT with Biden!

The US economy is leading the world post-Covid and our President is leading the free world against Russian aggression and violent religious fundamentalists. Unemployment is defeated, inflation is tamed, markets are setting new highs and businesses are making record profits. America is ascending and Biden will whoop Trump by over 10,000,000 votes!

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Nerm_L
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3.1.1  Nerm_L  replied to  JBB @3.1    2 years ago
The United States is doing GREAT with Biden!

We're fucked.  Biden has told us, in no uncertain terms, that college education contributes to poverty.  That's why Biden has to bail out the lenders with Ivy League TARP.

President Biden will whoop Trump by 10,000,000!

Who gives a shit which one of the demented old fools gets the booby prize?  We're fucked either way.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Nerm_L @3    2 years ago

After Trump's New Hampshire Win, MAGA Demands Haley Drop Out : 'You Lost'

After Trump's New Hampshire Win, MAGA Demands Haley Drop Out: 'You Lost' (newsweek.com)

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.2.1  Nerm_L  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2    2 years ago
After Trump's New Hampshire Win, MAGA Demands Haley Drop Out : 'You Lost'

Reported in big, bold headlines by the unbiased liberal press.  Click, click, click, click.

There's a sucker born every news cycle.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.2.2  Ozzwald  replied to  Nerm_L @3.2.1    2 years ago

There's a sucker born every news cycle.

Oooops, you're right.

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George
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3.2.3  George  replied to  Nerm_L @3.2.1    2 years ago
There's a sucker born every news cycle.

Hunters laptop is Russian disinformation.

17 intelligence agencies say trump is colluding with Russia.

The border is secure.

Jussie Smollett was attacked by trump supporters.

Democrats aren't racists, while they tell us that African Americans can't compete without their help.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.2.4  Nerm_L  replied to  Ozzwald @3.2.2    2 years ago

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Sean Treacy
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3.2.5  Sean Treacy  replied to  George @3.2.3    2 years ago

It’s funny how the same people who will aggressively push progressive lies even after the MSM has debunked them are the same ones who think others fall for disinformation.  

People here will still claim  Michael Cohen met with Russians in Prague to discuss stealing the election or that the Steele dossier was verified.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.2.6  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Nerm_L @3.2.1    2 years ago

YOU said "the liberals" were trying to drive Haley out. 

WRONG. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.2.7  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.2.5    2 years ago
People here will still claim  Michael Cohen met with Russians in Prague to discuss stealing the election or that the Steele dossier was verified.  

Nice to see your mind is stuck in 2016.  Good place to hide. 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.2.8  Nerm_L  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.6    2 years ago
YOU said "the liberals" were trying to drive Haley out.  WRONG. 

And I was correct.  Unless Politico is now MAGA.  The MAGA tripe has been reported by the unbiased liberal press.  The lying press is the filter for everything.  

MAGA didn't say anything.  The unbiased liberal press is spreading a story that may be nothing more than a lie.  You're quoting the press, not MAGA.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.2.9  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.7    2 years ago
to see your mind is stuck in 2016.  Good place to hide.

Right. For you, it's just one of those many, many  lies the media fixated on for a few weeks to drive an anti-Trump frenzy and then conveniently forgot after it served its purpose. The point is people here  were still claiming it was  true years later. More than one will probably still say it hasn't been debunked.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.2.10  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.2.9    2 years ago

A United States Senate Committee, controlled by Republicans, found that Russia interfered in the 2016 election and the Trump campaign welcomed it.  For gods sake stop complaining. He was very happy that Russia hacked the DNC, he asked Russia to hack Clintons home computers, his son and son in law met with a Russian to get dirt on Clinton, his campaign manager was involved with a Russian spy, his friend Roger Stone was trying to co-ordinate the Russian fed Wikileaks material with the timing of campaign events, and Trump lied throughout 2016 about what involvement he wanted in the building of a Moscow Trump Tower.  

Give it up already. 

 
 
 
George
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3.2.11  George  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.10    2 years ago

That is a lot of speculation on what you think Trump did, too bad Bob Mueller couldn't find all that collusion. did the trump campaign write checks to foreign spies that worked with Russian intelligence to gather information on their opponent? and did the trump campaign then weaponize the lies and innuendo with the cooperation of Obama's DOJ to tap and investigate his opponent? 

Did Melania meat with the Obama AG while trump was being investigated to chat off the record with no witnesses? did trump have FBI agents start an investigation with the goal of keeping him from being president at all costs? 

The Hillary Campaign literally hired foreign agents to work with Russian intelligence officers, and you think trump is working with russia? hysterical.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.2.12  Ozzwald  replied to  George @3.2.11    2 years ago
too bad Bob Mueller couldn't find all that collusion

He did.  You have to read his report not go by Barr's MAGA translation.

 
 
 
George
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3.2.13  George  replied to  Ozzwald @3.2.12    2 years ago

That comment is a lie, they found that there was meetings and intersection but there was NO collusion. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.2.14  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.10    2 years ago

being happy bad things happen to your electoral opponent isn’t collusion…

if someone, any American, had colluded with Russia to interfere in the election they would have been indicted.  Not a single American was. 

 
 
 
George
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3.2.15  George  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.2.14    2 years ago

It never ceases to amaze me the hypocrisy of some of the comments, mindlessly bleating that rump colluded with russia while Hillary literally paid a foreign agent to collude with russia to get dirt on her opponent.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.2.16  Ozzwald  replied to  George @3.2.13    2 years ago
That comment is a lie, they found that there was meetings and intersection but there was NO collusion.

Meetings to obtain dirt on Hillary.  Requesting Russia attempt to access Hillary's email server.  

You must have a very unique definition of "colluding".

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.2.17  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @3.2.16    2 years ago
You must have a very unique definition of "colluding".

au contraire. Seems you may be the one with the unique definition.

 
 
 
George
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3.2.18  George  replied to  Ozzwald @3.2.16    2 years ago
Requesting Russia attempt to access Hillary's email server. 

Another lie, he asked Russia to find hillary's emails and to give them to the press. 

. “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the  30,000 emails  that are missing,” Trump proclaimed. He added, “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”

There is no hacking request there at all, and most people know that by the time this occurred Hillary's server was in FBI custody and had been for almost a year, he was talking about the lie that Hillary only deleted personal emails forgetting about all the TS emails she had on an unsecured server. She was one stupid bitch for having an unsecured server while doing government business, even the NY times admits it was probably hacked by multiple sources..

Hillary Clinton’s Email Was Probably Hacked, Experts Say

Hillary Clinton’s Email Was Probably Hacked, Experts Say - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.2.19  Sean Treacy  replied to  Ozzwald @3.2.16    2 years ago
Requesting Russia attempt to access Hillary's email server.  
followed by 

          You must have a very unique definition

Ironic...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.2.20  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  George @3.2.18    2 years ago
“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the  30,000 emails  that are missing,” Trump proclaimed. He added, “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”
There is no hacking request there at all

How was Russia going to find them?  Laying by the side of the road ? 

Trump did something very similar when he asked Zelensky to investigate Biden in 2019 and when he publicly asked Putin to produce dirt on Biden in 2021. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.2.21  Ozzwald  replied to  George @3.2.18    2 years ago
Another lie, he asked Russia to find hillary's emails and to give them to the press.

And how many hours after that did they respond by trying to hack in the the various servers?  He asked, they responded.  How is that not colluding????

I notice you are also ignoring the whole Trump tower meeting as well.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.2.22  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @3.2.21    2 years ago

The FBI was already in possession of her server. Keep up.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.2.23  Sean Treacy  replied to  Ozzwald @3.2.21    2 years ago
How is that not colluding????

You really need to look up the definition of collusion before you go any further.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.2.24  Ozzwald  replied to  George @3.2.18    2 years ago
Hillary Clinton’s Email Was Probably Hacked, Experts Say

Gee, let's ask the head of the FBI who was investigating it...

When the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, said on Tuesday that his investigators had no “direct evidence” that Hillary Clinton’s email account had been “successfully hacked,” both private experts and federal investigators immediately understood his meaning: It very likely had been breached, but the intruders were far too skilled to leave evidence of their work.

So 3rd party individuals who never examined or even had access to the server are making claims about it being hacked.  THIS is what you are replying with???????  People who were in no position to know anything about it???

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.2.25  Ozzwald  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.2.22    2 years ago

The FBI was already in possession of her server. Keep up.

And the FBI said there was no evidence it was ever hacked.   You're the one lagging far behind.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.2.26  Sean Treacy  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.2.22    2 years ago

And it was already public knowledge she'd already deleted her emails (with bleachbit) from the server  after they'd been subpoenaed.  The FBI was looking for the emails, which was the whole point of the bit. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.2.27  Ozzwald  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.2.23    2 years ago
You really need to look up the definition of collusion before you go any further.

I don't possess a copy of the MAGA dictionary.

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Ozzwald
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3.2.28  Ozzwald  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.2.26    2 years ago
And it was already public knowledge she'd already deleted her emails (with bleachbit) from the server  after they'd been subpoenaed.

Then how do they know it was hacked???

  • The only people with direct access to her server said there was no evidence it ever was hacked.
  • The others had no access to her server. 
  • The others had no special knowledge about her server.
  • And now you are claiming that any evidence to its hacking had been destroyed.  (this is a lie, but it is your claim)

You guys are arguing against yourselves.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.2.29  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Ozzwald @3.2.21    2 years ago

Nikki Haley's party is nuts, Trump is nuts, and all these guys on NT want to do is talk about 2016.  It is hopeless. 

 
 
 
George
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3.2.30  George  replied to  Ozzwald @3.2.28    2 years ago

Because the experts said it was hacked, even Comey said it was likely compromised, but you go ahead and go with the people who were responsible for keeping it secure saying it wasn't hacked, because they wouldn't lie to protect their reputation.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.2.31  Sean Treacy  replied to  Ozzwald @3.2.28    2 years ago
hen how do they know it was hacked???

What are you talking about?  It doesn't actually matter to this discussion if her server was successfully hacked or not. No wonder you want to deflect to focusing on  that because you realize Trump's speech is not evidence of collusion.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.2.32  Sean Treacy  replied to  Ozzwald @3.2.27    2 years ago

Everyone is aware why you resort to pivoting to memes to deflect from a losing argument, you aren't fooling anyone.

 
 
 
George
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3.2.33  George  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.20    2 years ago
How was Russia going to find them?

Sigh............Surely not in the evidence room at the Hoover building, unplugged and not connected to the internet.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.2.34  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ozzwald @3.2.28    2 years ago

We will likely really never know.

Neither the committees nor the FBI were able to confirm whether an intrusion into the server occurred. Notably, Paul Combetta, who administered the server and used software designed to prevent forensic recovery while deleting Clinton’s emails, refused to speak with the Justice Department Inspector General (DOJ IG) and Congress.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.2.35  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @3.2.25    2 years ago

And you were the one pushing the he told russia bullshit. But they couldn't Now I guess you are......

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Just Jim NC TttH
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3.2.36  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @3.2.28    2 years ago

No you are. You claimed Trump wanted them to get the emails that were not there. You lose this one...........BIG

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.2.37  Ozzwald  replied to  George @3.2.30    2 years ago
Because the experts said it was hacked

Experts who never saw or touched the server.  How do they know?

Comey said it was likely compromised

He also said there was no evidence it was compromised.  You guys just want it both ways.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
3.2.38  Ozzwald  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.2.32    2 years ago

Everyone is aware why you resort to pivoting to memes to deflect from a losing argument, you aren't fooling anyone.

I go to memes because everyone here is claiming it to have been hacked while at the same time acknowledging that there is no evidence it was hacked.  How is that claim made with no evidence whatsoever to support it?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.2.39  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ozzwald @3.2.37    2 years ago

Exactly, Hillary had it in a secure closet in NJ.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.2.40  Ozzwald  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @3.2.34    2 years ago
We will likely really never know.

We likely DO know, but a certain group refuses to acknowledge it because it does not fit into their diatribes.  If it were hacked there would have been evidence to that fact.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.2.41  Sean Treacy  replied to  Ozzwald @3.2.38    2 years ago

You used a meme when to deflect away from your misuse of the  word collusion. It had nothing to do with whether Hillary’s server was actually hacked or not. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.2.42  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ozzwald @3.2.40    2 years ago

Not necessarily.

” When the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, said on Tuesday that his investigators had no “direct evidence” that Hillary Clinton’s email account had been “successfully hacked,” both private experts and federal investigators immediately understood his meaning: It very likely had been breached, but the intruders were far too skilled to leave evidence of their work.”

 
 
 
George
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3.2.43  George  replied to  Ozzwald @3.2.40    2 years ago

Moronic comment that specifically leaves out the fact that Comey said they would be good enough to NOT leave evidence. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.2.44  Ozzwald  replied to  George @3.2.43    2 years ago
Moronic comment that specifically leaves out the fact that Comey said they would be good enough to NOT leave evidence.

So you once again admitted there was no evidence of a hack.

So tell me, how do you tell the difference between a computer that was hacked and one that was not?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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3.2.45  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ozzwald @3.2.44    2 years ago

Didn't the  Romanian computer hacker who revealed the existence of a Clinton's private email server plead guilty to hacking-related offenses?.

Marcel Lazar, AKA "Guccifer," plead guilty in 2016  in a US Federal Court and serve 5 years in prison? 
 
 
 
JBB
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4  JBB    2 years ago

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