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Sen. Joe Manchin announces he won't run for president in 2024 - ABC News

  
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Sen. Joe Manchin announces he won't run for president in 2024 - ABC News
Sen. Joe Manchin, the Democrat from West Virginia, announced Friday he will not launch a 2024 bid for the White House as an independent.

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Sen. Manchin said last year that he wouldn't run for reelection.

ByKelsey WalshFebruary 16, 2024, 11:58 AM

Sen. Joe Manchin, the Democrat from West Virginia, announced Friday he will not launch a 2024 bid for the White House as an independent -- removing what would have been a major challenge for President Joe Biden's campaign.

"I will not be seeking a third-party run. I will not be involved in a presidential," Manchin said at an event at West Virginia University.

Manchin told the crowd that he will focus on putting his efforts behind his daughter's Super PAC "Americans Together."

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"I will be involved in making sure that we secure a president that has the knowledge and has the passion and has the ability to bring this country together. And right now, we're challenged and we've got to see if we can move people in that direction."

Manchin announced last year that he would not seek reelection for his Senate seat, fueling speculation over whether he planned to mount a third-party White House bid.

Senator Joe Manchin talks to reporters as he leaves the Senate floor following a vote on January 23, 2024 in Washington, D.C.Samuel Corum/Getty Images, FILE

And he hasn't been shy of a third-party run flirting with rhetoric over the past year. Manchin has publicized that he would crisscross the country to hear from the "politically homeless" and would work to "fight to unite the middle."

On Friday, Manchin said the system isn't set up for a third-party candidate.

"The system right now is not set up for [it]. The long game, maybe we can make a third party viable where it has a process and opportunity. Right now, it's very challenging," he said. "And I'm not going to be a deal breaker, if you will, spoiler, whatever you want to call it. I just don't think it's the right time."

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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    2 years ago

This was very predictable. Joe Manchin does not want to be known throughout history as the person that enabled Donald Trump to return to office. That's the bottom line.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 years ago

if manchin ran, and trump won, it would still be just as much Biden’s fault as if trump beats biden one on one.  That biden can’t appeal to moderates is Biden’s fault, no one else’s,

 
 
 
JBB
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1.2  JBB  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 years ago

No, the real bottom line is that Manchin, and everyone else who knows him personally and is in regular contact with Biden, knows Joe is doing just fine and is up for the job. Which is why Democrats are all backing Biden. President whooped Trump before and he is going to whoop Trump again, and even worse on November 5th...

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.2.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  JBB @1.2    2 years ago

I think he is smarter than to believe that.  Actually he has stated he hopes Biden moves more toward the middle.  Does no sound like a huge endorsement for how he is doing if he wants that.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.2.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @1.2    2 years ago

If that were true, he’d say that. He’s literally a democrat 

 
 
 
JBB
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1.2.3  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2.2    2 years ago

Manchin has before and Manchin will again as soon as Manchin personally gets what Manchin personally wants, again...

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.3  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 years ago
Joe Manchin does not want to be known throughout history as the person that enabled Donald Trump to return to office.

Unlike Talib who threatened not to support Biden, therefore supporting Trump.  " The American people will not forget. Biden, support ceasefire now or don't count on us in 2024," Tlaib said. "Mr president, the American people are not with you on this one. We will remember in 2024."

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.4  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 years ago

More than likely the dems got to him.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.4.1  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.4    2 years ago

If so, then that is good.   The Ds do not need to divert votes.   Their focus should be on encouraging Biden to step aside.   Although, it is arguably already too late for that.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.4.3  TᵢG  replied to  Tessylo @1.4.2    2 years ago

Should I also not opine that Trump should not be the nominee since it is arguably too late for the GOP too?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.4.5  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @1.4.1    2 years ago
If so, then that is good.

Anything to win. Got it.

 
 
 
JBB
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1.4.6  JBB  replied to  Tessylo @1.4.4    2 years ago

original

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.4.7  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.4.5    2 years ago
Anything to win. Got it.

Yet again you demonstrate that you do not 'get it'.

My objective is not to win, but rather to help the nation achieve the best possible outcome.

Manchin is too old and as a third party candidate would simply not win but could inadvertently help Trump to win.

Leaping to a conclusion without good evidence usually ends up with one being wrong.


Given present circumstances, the best path for the nation (IMO) is for the GOP to get its act together and nominate Haley.   She would win and the GOP would be distinguished as the first party to have a female PotUS.   Trump is gone, Biden retired.

Another good path is for Biden to step aside.   But here it is not clear who would replace him, but if that replacement would beat Trump then that is net good.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.4.8  TᵢG  replied to  JBB @1.4.6    2 years ago

Biden is too old to be PotUS.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.4.9  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @1.4.7    2 years ago
Manchin is too old and as a third party candidate would simply not win but could inadvertently help Trump to win.

In other words, you and the democrats decide who we can vote for. BTW Manchin is not too old. He is in complete control of his faculties. On the other hand, one could argue that Biden IS too old, because he is clearly suffering from dementia, but I wouldn't make that argument because he is clearly not running things. The people who have governed in his name have destroyed this country.  The problem for you is the second part of your sentence. You simply don't want Trump for some idiotic reason that has zero to do with how he served this country.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.4.10  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.4.9    2 years ago
In other words, you and the democrats decide who we can vote for.

Yet another ridiculous claim.

BTW Manchin is not too old.

Yes he is.

He is in complete control of his faculties. 

I agree.   But he is too old to be PotUS.   Time for the boomers (and, worse, beyond) to step aside and let younger, energetic, fresh individuals between 45 and 65 years of age (roughly) to grab the reins.

On the other hand, one could argue that Biden IS too old, because he is clearly suffering from dementia

Yes Biden is too old.  And yes he has cognitive decline that is expected with his age.  Other than that, you do not have clue one about his clinical condition;  wait for an official diagnosis.

And further, you are going to vote for Trump yet you ignore his cognitive issues.   Blind partisanship is a great way to get things wrong.

... but I wouldn't make that argument because he is clearly not running things. The people who have governed in his name have destroyed this country.  

Good fucking grief Vic, get a grip.

You simply don't want Trump for some idiotic reason that has zero to do with how he served this country.

I do not want Trump because of what he did while PotUS.   Trump is a traitor.   He is a vindictive, irresponsible, narcissist, demagogue asshole who is the only PotUS in our history to try to steal a presidential election through fraud, coercion, lying, and incitement.   An individual who could very well be a convicted felon by inauguration day.

Even 15 years ago a person like that would have been run out of town.   But here we are with the majority of the GOP all in for this traitor.   This is beyond pathetic.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.4.11  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @1.4.10    2 years ago
Good fucking grief Vic, get a grip.

10 MILLION MIGRANTS IN THREE YEARS!!!

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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1.4.12  Igknorantzruls  replied to  TᵢG @1.4.10    2 years ago
This is beyond pathetic.

Damn straight

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.4.13  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.4.11    2 years ago

As bad as that problem is, our country is not destroyed nor will it be.   Get a grip.

And your solution is to vote for a traitor.    You want to elect a vindictive, irresponsible, narcissist, demagogue asshole who is the only PotUS in our history to try to steal a presidential election through fraud, coercion, lying, and incitement.   An individual who could very well be a convicted felon by inauguration day.

You should be supporting Haley.   You should have supported Haley.   You should have been pushing Trump away from the GOP starting Jan 20, 2021.

No Trump, no Biden.   A nominated Haley and the GOP wins hands down and secures the first female PotUS.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.4.14  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @1.4.13    2 years ago
, our country is not destroyed nor will it be.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.4.15  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.4.14    2 years ago

Yet again, get a grip.   

You want as PotUS an irresponsible, confused idiot who would say this on the world stage:

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.4.16  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @1.4.15    2 years ago

The nations of Europe want to spend all their tax revenue on social programs. They can't seem to meet an agreed to amount of 2% to defend themselves. Somebody had to say it.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.4.17  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.4.16    2 years ago

So you actually approve of what Trump said.   It was factually wrong, expressed utter arrogance, and encouraged Russia to attack an ally.

And you approve of this!

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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1.4.18  Igknorantzruls  replied to  TᵢG @1.4.15    2 years ago

Trump again, doing and using his influence to achieve exactly what Putin wants, but i'm sure it's just another coincidence, that is now forming a correlation, that would seem to fck over OUR NATION, cause Trump cares not a damn about this land, it is, has been , and always will be, ALL ABOUT TRUMP !

And to this I say FCK Trump ! 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.4.19  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @1.4.17    2 years ago

I think it is time that US forces be removed from Europe. NATO was a great idea, and it is up to Europe to keep it going. It would also be a good idea to start funding defense budgets. It is time for France to defend France with a French army and the same for every other European country. They should be the big backers of Ukraine.

The US is about $34 trillion in debt.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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1.4.20  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.4.19    2 years ago
They should be the big backers of Ukraine.

they already are , i do believe per % gdp, but the US leads in total due to our military supplies 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.4.21  Vic Eldred  replied to  Igknorantzruls @1.4.20    2 years ago
due to our military supplies 

That's what I'm saying. Let them build up their military supplies along with their militaries.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.4.22  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.4.19    2 years ago

You are now on to a different topic than Trump as PotUS.   

I also want to see Europe take more control over their local matters.   But putting a vindictive, irresponsible loose cannon in the presidency is NOT the way to do that.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.4.25  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @1.4.22    2 years ago

As Putin said the other day, he preferred Biden because Biden was more stable. I don't want our enemies dealing with what they call stable. I want them dealing with someone who reminds them every day that he has a bigger button than they do!

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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1.4.26  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.4.21    2 years ago
Let them build up their military supplies along with their militaries.

Believe we would all be in agreement on this. Yet I remember Obama getting lambasted by many when he suggested it while in office. People forget, we are all Americans first, and the divisiveness today, imho, is a direct result of people frustrated with Obama and The Clintons, and when Trump normalized the hate, seemed many couldn't wait, to unleash it with a vengeance, and now we've got what we've got, and it ain't good !

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.4.28  Vic Eldred  replied to  Igknorantzruls @1.4.26    2 years ago
People forget, we are all Americans first

Tell that to the Jewish kids who are afraid to leave their dorms or the working poor who have to use the subway.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.4.30  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.4.27    2 years ago
"I think this is exactly what Putin loves to hear"

Tell us when Putin became our main enemy?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.4.32  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.4.25    2 years ago
I want them dealing with someone who reminds them every day that he has a bigger button than they do!

What a horrible, misguided way to think. 

You want the nations of the world to fear the US because it is led by an irresponsible, irrational, loose cannon.   No, Vic, the USA needs a strong but grounded, informed, intelligent statesperson.   Biden is not that, so you want to run to a loose cannon.   

Seems to me that you are desperately looking for ways to justify voting for Trump.  

There is no justification for it.   Bush, Reagan, Ike, and even Nixon would be utterly appalled by the arguments you are making (as would the D presidents).

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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1.4.33  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.4.28    2 years ago
Tell that to the Jewish kids who are afraid to leave their dorms or the working poor who have to use the subway.

? where did that come from, a bottle of rum ?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.4.34  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @1.4.32    2 years ago
Seems to me that you are desperately looking for ways to justify voting for Trump.  

I have two.

Trump's performance in office and Biden's performance in office.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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1.4.35  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.4.34    2 years ago
Trump's performance in office and Biden's performance in office.

Trump was an unhinged idiot who needed constant supervision and still constantly fcked up. Ole Joe has been no drama, steady recovery, while the far right fills the audience with great fright, that i just can't and don't see, unless watching Fox or Newsmax TV...

 
 
 
GregTx
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1.4.36  GregTx  replied to  Igknorantzruls @1.4.35    2 years ago
Ole Joe has been no drama, steady recovery,

You really think so?...

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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1.4.37  Igknorantzruls  replied to  GregTx @1.4.36    2 years ago

Yes, I really think so. The drum beats driven by the right wing drivel, is just enough to make them snivel, because you need a head on a swivel , to keep track of how many things wiz by, according to these outlets, yet, where is the proof Biden has been bribed by China, Yakov Smirnoff...? cause about everything that the GOP has declared, has NOT been backed up by FACTS. The one thing I DO think ole Joe has fcked up on, is the damn border, but then when a very good bipartisan bill is brought up, Trumps influence washes it away, all while he tells of the dire dire need to act immediately, what a joke ! Our country is doingjust fine, except for say school shootings which is not on Biden, our debt I believe was actually reduced a bit under Biden last year, and our economy continues to rebound after Covid better than any other, even though Trumps tax cuts for corporations that were permanent add trillions to our debt, violent crime has lowered and I just don't see what is so terrible, except for a bunch of chicken littles on the "right", cause irregardless of what they say, the sky ain't falling, but the Snowflakes be Snowballing ...

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2  Sean Treacy    2 years ago

Too bad . I would have voted for him.

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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2.1  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    2 years ago

Too bad . I would have voted for him.

And I as well

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3  TᵢG    2 years ago
On Friday, Manchin said the system isn't set up for a third-party candidate.

Quite true.   Apparently Manchin has no interest in running only to lose.

Manchin is also too old to run for PotUS.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4  Right Down the Center    2 years ago

Manchin told the crowd that he will focus on putting his efforts behind his daughter's Super PAC "Americans Together."

"I will be involved in making sure that we secure a president that has the knowledge and has the passion and has the ability to bring this country together. And right now, we're challenged and we've got to see if we can move people in that direction."

I wish him luck in that endeavor, especially since the current far left and far right are not interested in any compromise that would take them toward the center.   

 
 
 
TᵢG
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4.1  TᵢG  replied to  Right Down the Center @4    2 years ago

It is not just the extremes in the parties.   The majority of both parties are complicit.   

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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5  Greg Jones    2 years ago

Looks like Joe's seat in the Senate is about to flip. Which Republican will it be?

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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5.1  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Greg Jones @5    2 years ago

The Manchin seat will most definitely flip in the fall - the Republican governor will be a candidate (I think that was the starting point for Manchin)

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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6  Robert in Ohio    2 years ago

Not so fast, it seems he has not decided.  This ran yesterday 

Feb. 15, 2024, 10:34 AM EST

CLEVELAND — Sen, Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., danced around his interest in launching   a third-party presidential bid   here Thursday, but he endorsed a potential running mate if he does.

“Hypothetically, if I was picking my running mate, really who I would ask right now is Mitt Romney,” Manchin said, identifying the Republican senator from Utah.

Joe Manchin floats Mitt Romney as a potential running mate as he weighs a presidential bid (nbcnews.com)

 
 
 
Hallux
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6.1  Hallux  replied to  Robert in Ohio @6    2 years ago
"Hypothetically, if I was picking my running mate, really who I would ask right now is Mitt Romney,”
That'll tie up 10 electoral votes ...

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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6.1.1  Robert in Ohio  replied to  Hallux @6.1    2 years ago

It would be a start, two men who a person could vote without holding their nose

 
 
 
Hallux
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7  Hallux    2 years ago

All's good, the No-Name Party will run a nameless candidate.

 
 
 
Robert in Ohio
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8  Robert in Ohio    2 years ago

And here is still the Libertarian Party, the Green Party, etc to be heard and RFK Jr of course

I predict that there will be enough non major party votes to make both sides nervous

 
 
 
TᵢG
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8.1  TᵢG  replied to  Robert in Ohio @8    2 years ago
I predict that there will be enough non major party votes to make both sides nervous

The major parties do not care about third party votes.   They only care about winning against each other.

If the third party votes are expected to reduce the D and R votes, the major parties will not care unless one of them will be hit hard by the third party votes.   If both are hit, there will be no net impact and there will be no influence.

 
 

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