meh, it was only a matter of hours before the thumper heavy rightwing dragged divine or special providence into the story. despite today's tragic event, it's always best to focus on the positives. trump wasn't seriously hurt and there's probably going to be a lot more last minute seating available in the bleachers behind trump at his next open air rally.
going to be a lot more seating available in the bleachers behind trump at the next open air rally he holds.
I’m not so sure. One Secret Service protocols will be updated and I was amazed at how calm the crowd remain with 3 supporters shot, Trump shot as well as the gunman. Not only calm but defiant.
A lot of conservatives believe Trump has a special relationship with God. Although that is absurd on the face of it, why would God save Trump but not all the kids killed in school shootings ?
But the faithless seem very vested in bagging on the faithful. Especially in here.
Oy vey! Just yesterday here you called atheists pussies in a completely random and unprovoked attack on nobody in particular. Not at all out of character for you.
I called antifa, pussies. I reiterate, I have no problem per se with atheists. When I do, it’s when they mock people of faith and try to project themselves as somehow superior.
Wrong. Regardless of how you choose to interpret it. I’m telling you right now. I don’t think people are pussies ONLY because they are atheist. My point has been made. Carry on …..
I didn’t think humans are supposed claim to know or understand the mind of god. Seems to me I recall that being a pretty central part of doctrine. God works in mysterious ways is the shorthand.
Close up photos make it look like a piece of Trumps upper right ear was nipped. Blood spatter suggests the shot came from behind. Given the reported shooter location, that hit might mean that Trump had his head turned to his left. Any other position might be been a fatal head shot.
He was shot in the ear. Leaning forward isn’t going to cause you to get shot in the ear instead of the head.
It’s too bad that here we aren’t allowed to say what we all should be saying about this. But one thing we can say is that if you believe in god then you should be questioning his priorities.
Maybe I should clarify my thought, at it's base it was simply luck imo it went the way it did.
If my assessment and opinion is correct and he had not moved, the bullet impact area from what I see would have been that brainstem nerve bundle at the back of the head usually seen from the side as just behind and below the ear.
The bullet followed the same path of travel, a straight line, his movement looking right and leaning forward changed the position and orientation of the intended impact point resulting in a clipped ear instead of a usually fatal head shot.
That to me put it in the category of luck , be it good or bad, is up to the individual.
I think that you are correct. A WH photographer got an amazing photo of probably the first shot and you can see the air turbulence trail as it passed an inch in front of Trump’s face. Incredibly, the shooter, with apparently no scope, got Trump’s ear with his second shot.
If Trump had been looking forward, both shots might have got him in the brain.
I see trump himself has discussed this and both unilad and politico have articles covering my thoughts and hypothesis this morning, im sure some here are muttering , there will be no living with him now.
If god intervened to save Trump, but did not intervene in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of children around the world in the last 6 months, the fuck him with satans pitch fork:
Exactly, these agents sprang to action while the ones in Uvalde cowered in fear.
The article is about God saving Trumps life.
I’m an atheist but if I was a believer, I might believer that God worked through humans some time.
If not God, Trump remains the luckiest candidate that I’ve seen.
But
you mentioned Uvalde which allows it to be responded to. At least that is what the leftists tell us here.
meh, it was only a matter of hours before the thumper heavy rightwing dragged divine or special providence into the story. despite today's tragic event, it's always best to focus on the positives. trump wasn't seriously hurt and there's probably going to be a lot more last minute seating available in the bleachers behind trump at his next open air rally.
I’m not so sure. One Secret Service protocols will be updated and I was amazed at how calm the crowd remain with 3 supporters shot, Trump shot as well as the gunman. Not only calm but defiant.
if trump hadn't turned his head, those directly behind him might've thought they were at a gallagher show...
Of course.
Sometimes I wonder if the average human being operates more on beliefs than facts.
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Not sure that is faith though.[✘]
zen intellect...
I sometimes wonder why people care.
I could care less if someone is faithless.
But the faithless seem very vested in bagging on the faithful. Especially in here.
A lot of conservatives believe Trump has a special relationship with God. Although that is absurd on the face of it, why would God save Trump but not all the kids killed in school shootings ?
A lot of liberals believe Biden is a faithful Catholic. So whether you admit it or not, both sides have their own share of religious hypocrisy.
Silly me, I thought you were going to answer the question.
I’m not the one saying God saved Trump.
I say a bad shot or simple luck saved him. Much to the consternation of some folks here unfortunately.
I could care less if someone is faithless.
But the faithless seem very vested in bagging on the faithful. Especially in here.
Oy vey! Just yesterday here you called atheists pussies in a completely random and unprovoked attack on nobody in particular. Not at all out of character for you.
I called antifa, pussies. I reiterate, I have no problem per se with atheists. When I do, it’s when they mock people of faith and try to project themselves as somehow superior.
Know what I mean?
You called atheists pussies.[✘]
Wrong. Regardless of how you choose to interpret it. I’m telling you right now. I don’t think people are pussies ONLY because they are atheist. My point has been made. Carry on …..
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Your rhetoric, like usually is erroneous and simply hateful. Your last few comments are also complete bullshit.[✘]
if you Believe in God, you probably believe he intervenes in human affairs. It amazes me that’s such a hard concept for some to grasp.
I dont think God is looking out for Donald Trump. Call me crazy.
Prove it.
I didn’t think humans are supposed claim to know or understand the mind of god. Seems to me I recall that being a pretty central part of doctrine. God works in mysterious ways is the shorthand.
If he's not looking out for the Uvalde kids, why would he be looking out for Donald Trump ?
I answered your question.
Answer mine.
Prove it.
Your statement is remarkably dumb.
Noted, you can’t prove it. So your comment is proven bullshit.
I’ll be happy to retract that observation if you can answer the original question.
see 4.1.5
See 4.1.6
I dont think we can understand the mind of God, but God does not personally protect Donald Trump from harm, but not kids.
That is too disheartening a thought to contemplate.
Why do you think he walked away from it John?
Trump? The guy missed.
Are you saying you believe that God "intervened" for Trump ?
Why on earth would God intervene for Trump and not all the kids that have been killed in schools?
Close up photos make it look like a piece of Trumps upper right ear was nipped. Blood spatter suggests the shot came from behind. Given the reported shooter location, that hit might mean that Trump had his head turned to his left. Any other position might be been a fatal head shot.
Again, luckiest candidate that I’ve ever seen.
The guy missed because Trump turned his head at just the right time. Luck??...
I have no idea, do you?
Watching the video, it looks like Trump wasn’t looking to his left but turned his head to the right towards the gunman.
Are you seriously asking that question? Do you actually think that this assassination attempt failed due to an act of God?
Why do you think he walked away from it TiG?...
Did it ever occur to you that the shooter missed?
It is far more likely to miss than to hit.
Actually I think the shooter would have hit if Trump hadn't turned his head towards the shooters position.
Call me crazy. But I did notice something in today's footage, and went back and checked a couple other rally videos.
Trump has a habit I don't think anyone has noticed , I didn't until now.
When he is speaking, and he turns his head left or right in a dramatic jesture,he has the habit of leaning forward.
That habit may very well have saved his life today, and I doubt he is even aware he does it.
He was shot in the ear. Leaning forward isn’t going to cause you to get shot in the ear instead of the head.
It’s too bad that here we aren’t allowed to say what we all should be saying about this. But one thing we can say is that if you believe in god then you should be questioning his priorities.
god saved a world renowned scumbag and 3 maga morons in the background caught the strays ...
It is just as sensible to make the claim that god sent Crooks on a mission.
god didn't factor in a cheap rifle scope...
... another sexually frustrated rwnj geek with an AR15 penile substitute.
Maybe I should clarify my thought, at it's base it was simply luck imo it went the way it did.
If my assessment and opinion is correct and he had not moved, the bullet impact area from what I see would have been that brainstem nerve bundle at the back of the head usually seen from the side as just behind and below the ear.
The bullet followed the same path of travel, a straight line, his movement looking right and leaning forward changed the position and orientation of the intended impact point resulting in a clipped ear instead of a usually fatal head shot.
That to me put it in the category of luck , be it good or bad, is up to the individual.
I think that you are correct. A WH photographer got an amazing photo of probably the first shot and you can see the air turbulence trail as it passed an inch in front of Trump’s face. Incredibly, the shooter, with apparently no scope, got Trump’s ear with his second shot.
If Trump had been looking forward, both shots might have got him in the brain.
I see trump himself has discussed this and both unilad and politico have articles covering my thoughts and hypothesis this morning, im sure some here are muttering , there will be no living with him now.
If god intervened to save Trump, but did not intervene in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of children around the world in the last 6 months, the fuck him with satans pitch fork:
Not many here are fundamentalist believing in satan, good for you Thrawn.
Not sure how to even take that lol.