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Gretchen Carlson: Trump Takes War Cues From Laura Loomer

  
Via:  John Russell  •  last year  •  43 comments

By:   Tommy Christopher (Mediaite)

Gretchen Carlson: Trump Takes War Cues From Laura Loomer
it's one thing to operate on a whim on tariffs and on immigration, which he has done, albeit those are important issues. It's a whole other thing to suddenly just decide that you're going to attack Iran on a whim because you want to flex. And I think that that is what the danger is here.

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Ex-Fox News host Gretchen Carlson told CNN host Anderson Cooper that conspiracy loon Laura Loomer has more influence over President Donald Trump's war policy than MAGA Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA).

Trump's abrupt rush toward U.S. military involvement in the Iran-Israel conflict has created a fracture among high-profile MAGA supporters, with Israel isolationists like MTG pitted against the likes of Loomer, who favor action against Iran.

On Tuesday night's edition of CNN's Anderson Cooper 360, Carlson predicted that in the intramural MAGA war debate, it is Loomer that Trump will listen to:


ANDERSON COOPER: Yes, Gretchen, I mean, to that point, Congressman Marjorie Taylor Greene, she wrote, "Anyone slobbering for the U.S. to become fully involved in the Israel-Iran war is not America first MAGA," end quote. Obviously, I mean, she's saying, you know, she's more MAGA than Donald Trump, I guess, here.

GRETCHEN CARLSON: Yes, look, I think it's good to have a difference of opinion even inside of MAGA, because what we've seen on both sides of the aisle is that when you have group think, that's when incivility really brews. What I'm more worried about here is actually what Alyssa was just talking about, which is Trump's beliefs himself.

And it's been reported that he watched Fox News over the last couple of days, and he saw that they were talking about how brilliant Israel's attacks had been against Iran. And that really changed his views about, you know, he wanted to flex. He wanted to get involved in this as well.

And it's one thing to operate on a whim on tariffs and on immigration, which he has done, albeit those are important issues. It's a whole other thing to suddenly just decide that you're going to attack Iran on a whim because you want to flex. And I think that that is what the danger is here.

Not necessarily that MAGA is disagreeing. It's that we could get ourselves involved in World War III. But if you want me to actually predict who I think he'll listen to more than anyone else, it's not Marjorie Taylor Greene, it's Laura Loomer. And she's the one that's telling him right now to attack.

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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    last year
 it's been reported that he watched Fox News over the last couple of days, and he saw that they were talking about how brilliant Israel's attacks had been against Iran. And that really changed his views about, you know, he wanted to flex. He wanted to get involved in this as well.
 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @1    last year

as i have been saying

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2  Vic Eldred    last year

"Trump's abrupt rush toward U.S. military involvement in the Iran-Israel conflict "


What abrupt rush?

 
 
 
Hallux
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2.1  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    last year
What abrupt rush?

That is yet to unfold but it does appear Trump is now willing to pound Iranian sites with MOABs seeing that Israel controls the skies ... kinda reminds me of Stalin waiting till late 1945 to declare war on Japan.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Hallux @2.1    last year

was that before or after we dropped the bombs?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @2.1    last year
That is yet to unfold

Correct. The article is based on a lie.

 
 
 
Hallux
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2.1.3  Hallux  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1.1    last year

A day or so before. The main reason was control of Manchurian mineral deposits to fuel their response to Fat Man and Little Boy.

 
 
 
Hallux
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2.1.4  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.2    last year
The article is based on a lie.

So you have said several times and Terry Riley you are not.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.5  Trout Giggles  replied to  Hallux @2.1.3    last year

how could they know about Fat Man and Little Boy? Soviet spies?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.6  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.2    last year

What is the lie Vic?  I dont suppose you can prove Gretchen Carlson is lying. 

If you dont agree with her then dont. But you have no idea if she is lying. 

 
 
 
Hallux
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2.1.7  Hallux  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1.5    last year

Los Alamos apparently was infiltrated by a number of them.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.8  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.6    last year
What is the lie Vic?

It is in Post 2. You still can't answer.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.9  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.8    last year

The "rush" perception is based on the fact that many people believe Iran is no closer to a nuclear weapon than they were six months or a year ago. 

Its not a LIE its someones perception and opinion. 

 
 
 
George
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2.1.10  George  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.9    last year
Its not a LIE its someones perception and opinion. 

So if someone says that trump is the greatest President in US history, it's not a lie because it is their opinion?

Are you sure that is the defense you want to go with? So trump isn't lying when he says the things he says because they are his perception and opinion? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.11  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.9    last year

The LIE is obvious. Trump has not intervened militarily in the Iran conflict ....rushed or otherwise.

 
 
 
Hallux
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2.1.12  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.11    last year
Trump has not intervened militarily in the Iran conflict ...

Logistics don't count?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.13  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @2.1.12    last year

Nope.

 
 
 
Hallux
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2.1.14  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.13    last year
Nope.

I'll remember that when planning a bank heist.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3  seeder  JohnRussell    last year
Israeli journalist Barak Ravid, who served as an intelligence officer with the Israeli Defense Forces, told CNN Wednesday that Israel fully expects President Donald Trump   to involve the U.S . in its bombing campaign against Iran.

Ravid told anchor Sara Sidner that Israel was "pretty close" to having identified   all of the targets   they need to hit.

"I think they need another 2 or 3 days, tops, before they exhaust all the targets that they had," Ravid said. "Obviously there are new targets coming in all the time, but I think that the major things have already been done."

Ravid said that Trump's phone call with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was the final step before announcing U.S. involvement.

"Now, I think everyone are waiting to see not if, but when President Trump will order a military strike," Ravid said. "That's at least what i hear from Israeli officials. They are certain that Trump is going to join this war."

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3    last year

Show us where Trump has rushed in with military action.

 
 
 
Hallux
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3.1.1  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    last year

L.A.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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3.1.2  MrFrost  replied to  Hallux @3.1.1    last year

L.A.

Well played.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4  Trout Giggles    last year

I thought he wasn't going to get teh US involved in any more wars? Did he stop being an isolationist?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Trout Giggles @4    last year

He doesnt want Netanyahu getting all the glory. As soon as he saw Iran was more or less defenseless he wanted to jump in. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    last year

As long as he can kick someone while they're down

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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4.1.2  Ozzwald  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.1.1    last year
As long as he can kick someone while they're down

And not worry about them kicking back....  Commander Bone Spurs in action.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5  Vic Eldred    last year

This article is based on a lie. Trump has not rushed in to intervene militarily.

 
 
 
squiggy
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6  squiggy    last year

Trump’s clever enough to understand he’s in the middle of a hi/lo poker game. The US can stay clean while arming Israel to the teeth and watch them pummel Iran so as to deny arms to Putin’s war on Ukraine. 

 
 
 
Hallux
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6.1  Hallux  replied to  squiggy @6    last year

If Trump is in any card game it is a combination of Snap and 52 Pickup.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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6.1.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Hallux @6.1    last year
If Trump is in any card game it is a combination of Snap and 52 Pickup.

I think 'Go Fish' might be too much of a challenge for the Mango Mussolini. It's clear he wages war the same way he plays the card game 'War', just flips the next card and whatever will be will be, not a lick of thought required.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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7  Greg Jones    last year

The Bunker Buster MOAB will require the B-2 to drop it. Perhaps Israel could acquire the use of one by an updated lend-lease arrangement or even cash and carry 

 
 
 
Hallux
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7.1  Hallux  replied to  Greg Jones @7    last year

How long would it take to train a B-2 pilot ... 1-2 years?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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7.1.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Hallux @7.1    last year

Training would come with the lease and include a run or three to show what it can do and what it could drop.  That is not the US getting involved, just demonstrating the product before sale/lease.   What do they have to do to get Israel to buy or lease one today?

 
 
 
Hallux
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7.1.2  Hallux  replied to  Right Down the Center @7.1.1    last year

So 1-2 years. I doubt Netanyahu has the patience.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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7.1.3  Right Down the Center  replied to  Hallux @7.1.2    last year

1 to 2 days.  Showing them how to fly and letting the student play with the launch button at just the right time.

 
 
 
Hallux
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7.1.4  Hallux  replied to  Right Down the Center @7.1.3    last year

1 to 2 days to learn how to fly a $2 billion plane ... sure.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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7.1.5  Right Down the Center  replied to  Hallux @7.1.4    last year

Obviously you are not reading or understanding my comments.

 
 
 
Hallux
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7.1.6  Hallux  replied to  Right Down the Center @7.1.5    last year

Beatrix Potter was a tough read also, but then I skated through Heidegger. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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7.1.7  Trout Giggles  replied to  Hallux @7.1.6    last year

I could never figure out what Peter Rabbit was up to

 
 
 
Hallux
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7.1.8  Hallux  replied to  Trout Giggles @7.1.7    last year

Certain parts were edited out to give farm kids a sex-ed advantage.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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7.1.9  Greg Jones  replied to  Hallux @7.1.4    last year

It would likely come with a technical advisor. Perhaps some Israeli pilots have been trained in it. 

Who knows, certainly not you or I?

In another developing story....

'Doomsday Plane' Sparks Speculation As It Lands at Joint Base Andrews Amid Ongoing Israel-Iran Conflict – RedState

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.1.10  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @7.1    last year

Something tells me that Israeli pilots have been out in Missouri training on those B-2 bombers for quite some time 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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8  Right Down the Center    last year

Gretchen Carlson: Trump Takes War Cues From Laura Loomer

Funny headline considering the actual quote is "But if you want me to actually predict who I think he'll listen to more than anyone else, it's not Marjorie Taylor Greene, it's Laura Loomer. "

I guess that was the only way mediate could get anyone to read an obvious bogus article.  "If you want me to actually predict who who I think" would listen to this that would be some weak minded folks looking for some conformation for their bias.

 
 

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