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Would Trump use the war in Iran as a pretense for a military crackdown within America?

  
By:  John Russell  •  last year  •  19 comments


Would Trump use the war in Iran as a pretense for a military crackdown within America?
 

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That’s a provocative and important question. While there’s no direct evidence that former President Trump has explicitly stated intentions to use the Iran conflict as a pretense for domestic crackdowns, some commentators and critics have raised concerns about the potential for expanded executive power during wartime.

Historically, U.S. presidents have gained broader authority during times of war or national emergency. In the current situation, Trump has framed the strikes on Iran’s nuclear sites as a “spectacular military success” and warned of further action if Iran doesn’t “make peace”. Some observers argue that such rhetoric, combined with heightened tensions, could be used to justify increased surveillance, restrictions on dissent, or deployment of federal forces under the guise of national security2.

Critics have also pointed to Trump’s past use of federal law enforcement during domestic protests and his admiration for strongman tactics abroad as reasons to be vigilant. However, any significant domestic military action would face legal and political hurdles, including scrutiny from Congress and the courts.

So while it’s speculative, the concern isn’t unfounded—especially given the historical pattern of wartime powers being used to suppress dissent. 


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JohnRussell
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1  author  JohnRussell    last year

Don't say you weren't warned. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @1    last year

One prominent MAGA on twitter said that people should be armed everywhere they go and be on the lookout for suspicious foreign looking people. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1    last year

Unless you can provide proof of that alleged statement, no one will believe you. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @1    last year

You might not have noticed it, but there has been a lot of protesting, demonstrating, marching, rioting, and general unrest in American irately, and except for violent outbreaks, the people are not being suppressed.

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Ozzwald
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1.2.1  Ozzwald  replied to  Greg Jones @1.2    last year
You might not have noticed it, but there has been a lot of protesting, demonstrating, marching, rioting, and general unrest in American irately, and except for violent outbreaks, the people are not being suppressed.

You might want to look up Mahmoud Khalil,  Rumeysa Öztürk, and Ranjani Srinivasan.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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2  Nerm_L    last year

Yes, Trump will absolutely crack down on all things liberal, transforming the United States into a totalitarian dictatorship.  Follow the lesson of NAZI Germany and leave the country before it's too late.

Run while you can.  

As noted, you've been warned by fellow travelers. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Nerm_L @2    last year

Snarkiness doesnt seem to be your forte. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Nerm_L @2    last year

The courts may let President Donald Trump “off the leash” if a terrorist attack occurs in the aftermath of the United States' bombing Iran,  according to Salon Columnist   Heather Digby Parton .

While polls before the strikes showed Americans — even members of the GOP — were opposed to taking action in the Israel-Iran conflict, Digby Parton believes MAGA world is already “falling in line.”

And she suggested that awful retaliatory attacks inside the U.S. could be exactly what Trump is aiming for.

“ Trump believes  that his people will follow him anywhere, and history shows he's probably right,” the columnist said. “I suspect one of the ways he will keep them on side is by bringing the war home.”

Digby Parton believes Trump has “assumed dictatorial powers in a myriad of ways,” including putting Troops on the streets of Los Angeles and disregarding court orders.

“So we are already on the road to full autocracy, only awaiting the final verdicts of the courts and Trump's decision as to whether he will abide by them,” she said before warning, “But his executive overreach and abuse of power so far are nothing to what he can do as a president at war.”

If a  terror attack , or any other type of tragedy were to happen, “it's likely the courts will take the president off the leash for good and allow him to do whatever he wants,” she wrote.

The columnist went on to say, “Trump's Department of Justice will be happy to carry out his wishes.”

“That's the war Trump seems to really want,” Digby Parton wrote. “And by entering one overseas, he is much more likely to get it.”

'Off the leash': Analyst suggests attack in US may be exactly what Trump wants

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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2.2.1  Nerm_L  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2    last year
The courts may let President Donald Trump “off the leash” if a terrorist attack occurs in the aftermath of the United States' bombing Iran,  according to Salon Columnist   Heather Digby Parton .

There you go, direct confirmation from an unimpeachable source.  Better get out while it's still possible.  A lot of people didn't heed the warnings in NAZI Germany and paid the price.

Is it really worth taking a chance?  Run while you can.  Safety is only a border away.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.2  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Nerm_L @2.2.1    last year

Is it your learned opinion that Trump would not use "wartime" as a pretext for assuming more authoritarian powers here at home? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.3  author  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.2    last year

I'm anticipating the moment, likely not too far away, when the administration and its lackeys like Kristi Noem call on Americans to report the "subversive" un-American (aka anti-maga) activities of their friends and neighbors.  

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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2.2.4  Nerm_L  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.2    last year
Is it your learned opinion that Trump would not use "wartime" as a pretext for assuming more authoritarian powers here at home? 

Trump turning dictator is an imminent existential danger.  Better get out now before it's too late.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.5  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Nerm_L @2.2.4    last year

Your faith in Donald Trump will go unrewarded. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.2.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  Nerm_L @2.2.4    last year

not my seed and not my monkeys but you're spamming

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.2.7  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.5    last year

We're all about to get our reward....

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.8  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Nerm_L @2.2.4    last year

fish or cut bait. the next disingenuous comment gets deleted. 

 
 
 
squiggy
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2.2.9  squiggy  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.8    last year

You misspelled dissenting - and missed the irony.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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3  Raven Wing     last year

There is a saying from long ago, and forgive as I can't recall who said it, that America would not be destroyed from others, but, will be destroyed from within.

From what Trump and his followers are doing to America at this point, it is beginning to look like that time may be upon us. It is time that the true American people say enough is enough!  

Before we no can no longer make that choice.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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3.1  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Raven Wing @3    last year

I think that was Krushev some time in the 50s . could be wrong though , was before my time .

Lincoln might have touched on it in one of his speeches on a house divided can not stand when he was talking about preserving the union .

 
 

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