Opinion | MAGA Is Tearing Itself Apart Over Jeffrey Epstein
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Last week President Trump’s Department of Justice delivered a blow to one of the foundational beliefs of the MAGA movement, one that helped carry him back to the White House.
In an unsigned memorandum , the department declared that there was no evidence that Jeffrey Epstein, the disgraced deceased convicted sexual predator, maintained a client list or that he blackmailed prominent individuals for various misdeeds. The memorandum also declared that Epstein committed suicide.
Most Americans saw this news (if they saw it at all) and barely raised an eyebrow. The Epstein story was part of the past; he died in 2019. But it detonated like a bomb in the MAGA universe. Pro-Trump influencers with vast audiences couldn’t believe what they were reading.
After all, they’d been told for years that there was an Epstein client list. Pam Bondi, Trump’s attorney general, told Fox News in February that the client list was “sitting on my desk right now to review.” (She later claimed that she was referring to the Epstein case file, not a specific client list.)
In October 2024 , JD Vance, then a candidate for vice president, said, “Seriously, we need to release the Epstein list. That is an important thing.”
Before he was Trump’s director of the F.B.I., Kash Patel told Glenn Beck , a right-wing radio host, that the F.B.I. had Epstein’s “black book” and that it was “under direct control of the director of the F.B.I.” In 2023, Patel told Benny Johnson , a MAGA podcaster, that members of Congress should “put on your big-boy pants and let us know who the pedophiles are.”
In September 2024, Dan Bongino, now the deputy director of the F.B.I., told his listeners , “Folks, the Epstein client list is a huge deal” that would “rock the Democrat Party.”
These quotations are a small fraction of the right-wing discourse about Epstein. During the Trump era, references to Epstein have been ubiquitous in MAGA circles. And the statement “Epstein didn’t kill himself” was so popular that it leaked out into the wider American culture.
The Epstein story mattered so much in MAGA circles because it was a key element in their indictment of America’s so-called ruling class. Trump’s appeal to the Republican base isn’t just rooted in his supporters’ extraordinary affection for the man; it’s also rooted in their almost indescribably dark view of the American government.
Why are they so keen to burn it all down? Well, if you believe your government is populated by people so depraved that they’d participate in and cover up the systematic sexual abuse of children, then you wouldn’t just want them out of office; you’d want them prosecuted, imprisoned and maybe even executed. And you’d want all the power you’d need to make that happen.
And if you believe that the ruling elites would abuse children, then they’d certainly be the kind of people who’d gin up a Russia hoax or try to steal an election in 2020. People who are that terrible are capable of anything. And if you wonder why MAGA turned on the F.B.I. and the Department of Justice, well, it’s not just about the Russia investigation or the F.B.I. search of Trump’s home in Mar-a-Lago. MAGA America also believed the F.B.I. was protecting pedophiles to preserve the status quo.
On the right, the Epstein story became the thinking man’s version of the QAnon conspiracy theory — the idea that American society was led by a gang of cannibalistic pedophiles. Whereas QAnon was rooted in the imaginary revelations of a shadowy figure who claimed Q security clearance, at least the Epstein story was rooted in some very grim, very real facts.
Epstein was a monstrous and grotesque sexual predator. Along with his convicted confederate, Ghislaine Maxwell, he systematically groomed and sexually abused (and enabled the sexual abuse of) hundreds and hundreds of young women and girls.
He was also one of the most well-connected people in the world . A host of powerful people attended his parties and rode on his jet.
Oddly enough — considering MAGA’s obsession with Epstein — one of his most powerful friends was Trump . They flew together, they partied together, and in 2002, Trump told New York magazine: “I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy.” But Trump also made this ominous observation , “It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.” After Maxwell’s arrest, Trump said : “I haven’t really been following it too much. I just wish her well, frankly.”
This was the man that MAGA trusted to fully expose Epstein and all his misdeeds?
Make no mistake: MAGA is very angry. After the Department of Justice released its memo, MAGA influencers exploded. Tucker Carlson was furious. “The whole thing that this tape shows that he didn’t kill himself is, like, a joke, but worse than that, it’s a joke that we all get,” he said. “I feel like we’re at a dangerous point now.”
Alex Jones said the Trump administration was now “part of the cover-up.” On X, Marjorie Taylor Greene wrote , “RELEASE THE EPSTEIN CLIENT LIST!!!!”
This moment is significant for another reason: It allows us to peer into the future of MAGA and see its potential crackup. After Trump is gone, this movement could tear itself apart. Its very existence is premised on a series of fantastical assertions about America and American government.
This means that MAGA influencers are constantly deceiving themselves, one another and the right-wing public. It’s an ecosystem that operates in a constant state of crisis and grievance, and MAGA supporters are so convinced that the worst possible stories are real that they’ll turn on anyone not named Donald Trump who dares to tell them the truth — or who deviates in the slightest bit from the stories they tell themselves.
Once Trump leaves office, there will be no one left to end the internal arguments and direct everyone to fall in line. If the Democrats have a problem of too many purity tests, Republicans will soon experience the consequences of putting together a coalition that may have too few. In red America, you can believe anything so long as you support Trump.
Remove that man, and only the grievances remain, and many of MAGA’s grievances are against other Republicans. The G.O.P. coalition contains pro-vaccine and anti-vaccine factions, internationalists and isolationists, normie Republicans and wild conspiracy theorists.
Republican ideological diversity is its temporary strength. It could build a tent big enough to win very close to a majority of the popular vote. But by pulling a critical mass of disgruntled Americans into one party, Republicans have created a culture of constant conflict, and those conflicts are often rooted in completely false beliefs about American life.
Those internal conflicts are fully underway. CNN’s Kaitlan Collins reported on Friday that “it’s hard to overstate the infighting” in MAGA over the Epstein case. Also on Friday, Axios reported that Bongino took the day off work after clashing with Bondi at the White House, and CNN is reporting that he’s considering resigning from the F.B.I. In fact, we can see a consensus hardening against Bondi : “She’s the culprit. She’s the one who pulled the bait and switch. She told us that the list was on her desk.”
Trump himself isn’t immune from attack. As part of his divorce from the MAGA movement, Elon Musk has claimed that Trump and his longtime ally Steve Bannon are in the Epstein files. “How,” Musk posted on Tuesday , “can people be expected to have faith in Trump if he won’t release the Epstein files?”
By Saturday evening, Trump had enough. He posted a long screed on Truth Social that declared his support for Bondi — he said she was doing a “FANTASTIC JOB!” — and then bizarrely claimed that the Epstein files were written by “Obama, Crooked Hillary, Comey, Brennan, and the losers and criminals of the Biden administration.” In a pointed reference to Patel, he said that the F.B.I. should be focused on investigating “Voter Fraud, Political Corruption, ActBlue, the Rigged and Stolen Election of 2020, and arresting thugs and criminals,” rather than “spending month after month looking at nothing but the same old Radical Left inspired Documents on Jeffrey Epstein.”
Judging from the early response online, MAGA is not satisfied. The usually faithful Benny Johnson was shaken. “By admitting that the Epstein Files are real,” he said , “and that you’ve read them, and you don’t like their contents, and they were written by your enemies, it doesn’t make the most compelling case as far as I’m concerned. Holy moly.”
The Epstein case remains a bit of a black box to most Americans. We still don’t know all the details of Epstein’s relationships with the rich and powerful, and in the absence of knowledge, wild allegations spread unhindered by hard facts.
This much we do know: Some of MAGA’s most trusted voices — including Patel, Bondi, Bongino and Trump himself — are suddenly telling their movement: Move along, there’s nothing to see here. But MAGA does not want to hear what they have to say.
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I believe that public interest in Jeffery Epstein predates Q Anon, in particular the belief that Epstein information would implicate Bill Clinton.
QAnon in many ways was birthed from the "pizzagate" conspiracy theory that Democrats and Hollywood actors were pedophiles.
QAnon is a provably lunatic belief system , and a major impetus for the present obsession with an "Epstein's List". Extreme MAGA and QAnon occupy the same space.
Now the ultimate dilemma, because according to their religious dogma, Trump IS Q. Its like if your god suddenly turned his back on you.
Next step will be the Trump administration releasing select, doctored, portions of the Epstein investigation. With all mentions of Trump miraculously gone.
Bill Clinton was a known sexual predator, abuser, and pervert. He was on the flight logs for the Lolita Express lots of times. It's hard to believe he didn't have sex with underage girls. At the same time there is no evidence that Trump did likewise
What I think is going on is that there were many very important people of both parties who are on the list which I believe does exist.
Whose identities are too dangerous to release
If you keep your eyes closed you will never see any evidence of anything.
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Pam Bondi admitting that there is a list and she has it.
If that were true, trump would have released the files a long time ago.
Show us Greg, where there is any legal preceding involving Clinton and Epstein? There is at least one with Trump and Epstein. I think your partisanship is getting the best of you.
They won't turn away from their orange gold idol for anything.
Once Kelly Ann Conway coined the term "alternative" facts and Trump spewing "fake news" daily for years, there is nothing consisting of actual truth that his followers will ever accept.
"Fake News" is their permanent default for anything they don't like or anything truthful that rocks their perception.