The Line Trump Crossed by Accusing Obama of Treason
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The Line Trump Crossed by Accusing Obama of Treason
New York Times 7-9 minutes 7/25/2025
President Trump believes that President Barack Obama committed treason, a crime that may be punishable by death. Seeking a distraction from his current political travails, Mr. Trump is attempting to relitigate the nearly decade-old controversy over Russian involvement in the 2016 election.
Mr. Trump is wrong on the facts and the law, and his sensational allegation serves only to demonstrate how completely he has degraded contemporary political discourse.
Mr. Trump denounced Mr. Obama after Tulsi Gabbard, the director of national intelligence, asked the Justice Department to investigate whether intelligence officials in the Obama administration faked evidence of Russian efforts to influence the 2016 election. When the question of who should be targeted in the investigation was posed at an Oval Office press availability, Mr. Trump said: “It would be President Obama. He started it. … This was treason. This was every word you can think of. They tried to steal the election. They tried to obfuscate the election. They did things that nobody’s ever even imagined, even in other countries.” Mr. Trump also mentioned former President Joe Biden, former F.B.I. Director James Comey, the former director of national intelligence James Clapper and former C.I.A. Director John Brennan as other possible defendants.
President Trump’s history of intemperate remarks has earned him a perverse kind of immunity; the more outrageous his statement, the faster it is often dismissed. But Mr. Trump doesn’t deserve this bloviator’s privilege. He’s not just the president, but, more to the point, he’s the overseer of an unusually compliant Justice Department, and his offhand condemnation of his predecessor is as significant as it is chilling.
Indeed, Mr. Trump made sure that the investigation of purported treason swiftly took on a life of its own. Attorney General Pam Bondi announced that a Justice Department “strike force” would investigate the allegations against Mr. Obama and the others, and a pair of Republican senators, Lindsey Graham and John Cornyn, have called for the appointment of a special counsel to lead the inquiry.
Treason is the only crime defined in the Constitution, and it’s set out there, in relevant part, as giving “aid and comfort” to our enemies. Regurgitating a claim that Mr. Trump and his allies have made for years, Ms. Gabbard said that President Obama, after Hillary Clinton was defeated by President Trump in the 2016 election, “directed the creation of an intelligence community assessment that they knew was false.”
Specifically, Ms. Gabbard cited talking points that were prepared for Mr. Clapper in 2016 that stated “foreign adversaries did not use cyberattacks on election infrastructure to alter the U.S. presidential election outcome.” In light of this, she said on social media, the Obama administration was “promoting the LIE that Vladimir Putin and the Russian government helped President Trump win the 2016 election.”
But neither President Obama nor his subordinates said that to help Mr. Trump’s campaign the Russians attacked election infrastructure, changing voting results and the like. Rather, as established by multiple investigations, Russian hackers attacked Hillary Clinton’s campaign by stealing and disseminating its emails. (No one knew this better than Mr. Trump himself, who frequently invoked the hacked emails during campaign rallies.)
Every investigation of the 2016 campaign, including the one by the Senate Intelligence Committee in 2018, reached the same conclusion. “We found irrefutable evidence of Russian meddling,” said then-Senator Marco Rubio, who is now, of course, Mr. Trump’s secretary of state. In other words, the conclusion of the Obama administration, far from being a crime, much less treason, was a simple statement of fact.
A spokesman for Mr. Obama aptly dismissed President Trump’s accusation as “ridiculous and a weak attempt at distraction.” But the accusation serves both Ms. Bondi and Mr. Trump’s political needs. The attorney general may be especially eager to please her boss because she’s on thin ice with him.
She has created a political crisis for Mr. Trump by mismanaging the disclosures about Jeffrey Epstein, the late pedophile and friend of the president’s. (In response to the demands of conspiracy theorists in Mr. Trump’s party, the attorney general, with some fanfare, first released a set of purportedly secret documents that were already public; then said, in effect, that there was nothing more to see; and then changed her mind and sought but did not secure the release of grand jury transcripts in the case.) What better way for Ms. Bondi to assist the president in changing the subject away from the Epstein files than to initiate a treason investigation of Mr. Obama?
The absurdity of this investigation is underlined, too, by the fact that Mr. Obama is almost certainly immune from prosecution — thanks to Mr. Trump and the Supreme Court. In its decision last year in Trump v. United States, the court held that there was a presumption that former presidents could not be prosecuted for any “official” conduct during their time in office. The preparation and dissemination of intelligence findings are certainly official functions of the presidency, and accordingly, they would be off limits as the bases for any criminal charges.
But pointing this out seems almost unfair to Mr. Obama; it suggests that he would escape prosecution only because of the lamentable technicality established by the Supreme Court in the Trump case. The more important reason is simpler: Mr. Obama committed no crime.
Over the years, Mr. Trump has said so many shocking things that it’s tempting to dismiss this one, too, with the familiar excuses: that, for example, the president should be taken seriously but not literally, or that this was just “ Trump being Trump .” But the fact remains that the president of the United States said that a predecessor committed a crime for which he could be executed.
Even though a formal investigation is now underway, such a prosecution and sentence remain unlikely. But the invocation of the possibility by a president who put the prosecutorial process in motion suggests that the nation has moved to a never-before-seen era of malevolence and reprisal.
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Hopefully the Democrats will win the House majority at the midterms in 2026 and then will investigate Trumps corruption until the end of his days.
What corruption?
The only difference between Trump and Obama is Trump stated what he believes out loud, and Obama ordered his minions to formulate a fake report, then had them be the ones to accuse Trump of treason.
They...and you...obeyed without question.
Let me guess, Newsmax?
Let's see where the facts and evidence lead. This whole sad contrived attempt to link Trump to interference by Russia in the election was done at the behest of Obama, who should have known better. He'll never do a perp walk but hopefully his reputation and legacy will be sullied and tarnished beyond repair.
Trump kicked Epstein to the curb in 2008 after learning what he was accused of. Not a smidgen of evidence that would implicate Trump. This story will slowly die and fade, and Trump will come out stronger than ever. And why in the world would any rational and sane person vote for the Dems in the midterms?
James Clapper now has a lawyer.
There is also talk of whistleblowers.
Face it, you just make shit up.
Are you afraid of the truth? You appear to be in deep denial.
I know its a waste of time to ask you to back your comments up with evidence, but I will anyway. Prove that unfair investigations of Trumps campaign were ordered by Obama. Or any investigations for that matter.
I know you cant and wont, so why not give your bs a rest ?
Trump can't even spell, "truth".
Absolutely, lets release all of the Epstein files to the public, unredacted and go from there.
But.......trump doesn't want that...why? Something to hide..likely.
‘But.......trump doesn't want that...why? Something to hide..likely. ’
Why didn’t democrats demand the release during the entirety of the Biden years…..hell, even the Obama years?
Something to hide…likely.
Because the files were sealed. Duh.
What is really interesting about the new info that Gabbard is presenting is that it involves a meeting that the outgoing president Obama had with Brennan, Clapper, Comey, Susan Rice and his AG (the disgraced Loretta Lynch) on December 9th. It follows a 6-month period when Barack Obama had kind of checked out as his final term approached its end. Then Obama suddenly sought an intelligence assessment. He was told there was nothing to be found on the Russia/Trump rumor. No direct contact. As a matter of fact, there was intelligence from Dutch intel that had tapped into Russian internal communications that indicated the Russians as being perplexed as to why they were being blamed for trying to rig an election in favor of Trump.
Basically, Obama asked Brenan and Clapper what they had on that matter, and they are basically saying NOT WHAT YOU WANT!
Their assessment: The Russians might have gotten Hilary's unsecured e-mails, but they were not colluding with Trump.
All of which led Obama to realize that Trump, (who he couldn't stand) was about to take the country off the leftward road Obama had put it on, so basically Obama told them to go back and revise the intelligence estimate. And they did.
Are we missing anything John?
I dont dignify your conspiracy nonsense .
No? It's not as good as the Russia hoax?
The facts are out in the open now John.
You may deny them, but you can't refute them.
I keep asking you to prove what those "facts" are? I'm dumb, I need you to explain it to me .
According to who? What facts? Or did you buy the Obama story? You know it was 100% fabricated to get trump supporters off the Epstein files...right? Jesus, get off the reich wing media once in a while. Stop listening to media that tells you what you WANT to hear and listen to something factual for once.
No facts. Just blatant innuendo and outright lies as usual. It's past time for Trump and the whole of the MAGA party to be branded outlaw and the antithesis of democracy.
Far right wing fascism will completely destroy America if allowed to continue unchecked.
‘Far right wing fascism will completely destroy America if allowed to continue unchecked. ‘
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You're missing the truth. Nothing you said right there was actual fact. You ASSUME a whole bunch of shit and then come to a conclusion.
First lie: " He was told there was nothing to be found on the Russia/Trump rumor."
He may have been told they did not have aa smoking gun but as the Republican Senate investigation proved there was MORE than enough reason to investigate Trump campaign ties to Russia.
Nothing in ICP report you linked yesterday refuted the actual details found by the Republican led Senate investigation. It did not change in ANY WAY " Manafort’s high-level access and willingness to share information with individuals closely affiliated with the Russian intelligence services, particularly Kilimnik, represented a grave counterintelligence threat,” as the Republican Senate led investigation concluded, or any of the other links between the Trump campaign and Russia. There was no "Russia hoax" as the investigation concluded, the threat was real.
This deflections coming out now are nothing but partisan manufactured HORSE SHIT coming straight from the Asshole-in-Chief's balloon knot mouth in retaliation for being exposed as a liar and a cheat and convicted of 34 felonies. It truly sickens me that there are so many willing to metaphorically slurp this disgusting criminal's taint juice as they defend and distract for him and attack anyone simply trying to defend our nation FROM this slimy conman.
Its easy to say Obama committed treason, it is impossible to prove it.
I read Tulsi Gabbards 11 page report on all these allegations. It is , at best, a piss poor version of innuendo.
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This deflections coming out now are nothing but partisan manufactured HORSE SHIT
Didn't read you saying anything 'bout this "horse shit" with Clinton, Obama, Biden or Harris - where they piled it on so high and thick.
Repeated actions.
Lucky for Obama the Supreme Court protected him.
I'm not so sure on the immunity however, the immunity is for official acts and undermining the incoming administration is not what I would consider an official act. And I do believe that this warrants a deep investigation, the American people deserve to know.
However, it's doubtful that Obama or any of the others will be prosecuted. Treason is a very high bar as defined in the Constitution, for other federal crimes I believe the statute of limitations is only five years. So do the investigation and get the findings out to the people, it might put an end to some people's political ambitions. But I doubt if any criminal trials will occur.
Of course, Trump could have just been using the colloquial meaning of treason...
Even if they were, they would end up in a DC courtroom with a DC Judge and a DC jury. The DOJ probably wouldn't waste the time & expense.
It seems like only yesterday that Obama was at the White House Correspondents Dinner before the 2016 election, where he once joked about Trump saying "I'm president and he'll never be president."
Well Barack, as it turned out, Trump ran 3 times and won twice by a bigger margin than you ever got!
why are you making stuff up?
BOTH of Obamas wins (365 and 332) were a higher electoral vote total than Trumps best ( 312 in 2024).
Why are you suddenly talking about electoral votes.
How many votes did Trump get in 2024?
How about 77,284,118 votes
Obama got over 50% of the votes in both his elections. Trump got less than 50% in all three of his.
Sorry John, Trump got more votes.
And he won two terms.
Obama was wrong about all of it.
it makes me wonder if you know what margin means. Trump lost the popular vote in both 2016 and 2020, so how could he possible have better margins?
This sort of gaslighting nonsense is why you have no credibility.
If makes me wonder if you know what numbers mean. You know, the ones you are dancing around.
You danced around the numbers because you can't admit it. Trump got all those votes. Even after all the shit that was pulled. 93 counts!
Trump never had a better margin than Obama, period. In an election the margin is the difference in votes between the two contestants.
But, the votes that counted - i.e. Electoral Votes - will be the votes that are utilized.
Both of Obamas electoral totals were better than any of Trumps three.
Populations do have this odd ability to increase from one cycle to the next. There are no brownie points for deceitfully toying with the numbers.
And, guess what - Trump never ran against Obama - only Billary and Harris - and he beat both of them - so, what's your point?
for christs sake - it wasnt my point it was vics point
he said trump had better margins than obama - not true
That’s the dumbest…sigh. He also got more votes than George Washington and Abraham Lincoln. Any guess as to why?
We have more people now than we did in 2008 and 2012. We have almost 40 million more people now than we did in 2008. Also, in the last few elections, turnout is up slightly.
So, of course, Trump got more votes in recent elections than Obama did because more people voted when he ran.
But jump in the Wayback machine, and you will see that in 2016, Trump got just under 63 million votes. That’s actually less than Obama got in 2012 (almost 66 million) and in 2008 (over 69 million).
By raw vote totals Trump is the greatest president in history. You have to be pretty ignorant to look at it that way, but it happens.
We have made it easier to vote. Part of the mission to defeat Trump in 2020. Remember? Mail in voting for everyone.
I have multiple degrees and I vote by mail. Voting should be easy, but the electorate should also be educated.
Popular vote means exactly dick in a presidential election Vic.
I am 57 years old, I never never voted by anything other than a mail in ballot.
That's a good thing for trump because he would have lost and lost...........HUGE.
SWING and a miss...
I just saw this article and can't stop laughing at the hypocrisy, there seems to be little if any self-awareness with our brothers and sisters on the left in the media.
Nope.
Even if you accept every word and accusation from Gabbard as true, it would not amount to treason.
People do many things that piss other people off politically, and 99%+ of the time, those actions are not treason.
Furthermore, in this case, again, even if we accept everything offered as true, there doesn’t seem to be anything criminal. If there were, they would cite such laws that were violated, instead of throwing out “treason” like ignorant children, who clearly don’t know what the word means.
No facts. Just blatant innuendo and outright lies as usual. It's past time for Trump and the whole of the MAGA party to be branded outlaw and the antithesis of democracy.
Far right wing fascism will completely destroy America if allowed to continue unchecked.