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Kirk Shooter's Roomate's Family Disowned Him Because He Was Anti-Christian

  
Via:  John Russell  •  last year  •  36 comments

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Kirk Shooter's Roomate's Family Disowned Him Because He Was Anti-Christian
 

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BREAKING: A family member of Lance Twiggs, who was the transgender “boyfriend” of Charlie Kirk’s assassin, Tyler Robinson,  says family cut ties with Twiggs due to his “hostility toward anyone supporting conservative or Christian values” and confirm Robinson lived with him.

(1) Benny Johnson on X: "BREAKING: A family member of Lance Twiggs, who was the transgender “boyfriend” of Charlie Kirk’s assassin, Tyler Robinson says family cut ties with Twiggs due to his “hostility toward anyone supporting conservative or Christian values” and confirm Robinson lived with him. https://t.co/29prAG2LS0" / X


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    last year

I found this news interesting , not only because it shows the lengths some Christians will go to obsess on their religious belief, but also because it potentially could impinge on their ability to accurately or truthfully describe to law authorities what they saw happening. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @1    last year

Who cares?

Just think of what Muslim families would do

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    last year

Irrelevant. Not surprising but irrelevant. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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1.1.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    last year
Just think of what Muslim families would do

Why? We aren't under any real threat of becoming a Muslim nation. And while I vehemently condemn any Muslims who have violently expressed their religious beliefs in such things they call "honor killings" (as if there can be any honor in murdering your child), that doesn't excuse Christians who use verbal and mental abuse to condemn and destroy their children who refuse to accept their brand of unproved religion.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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1.1.3  Jack_TX  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1.2    last year
that doesn't excuse Christians who use verbal and mental abuse to condemn and destroy their children who refuse to accept their brand of unproved religion.

Why do you presume that happened?

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Professor Quiet
1.2  Jack_TX  replied to  JohnRussell @1    last year
it shows the lengths some Christians will go to obsess on their religious belief,

Glass houses.  Stones.  Etc.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Senior Silent
1.3  afrayedknot  replied to  JohnRussell @1    last year

“I found this news interesting…”

Regardless of the context, it is interesting if not depressing that any family would disown one of their children.
This is non-political and requires no further discussion. Simply saying I can’t imagine anything my sons may do or any life decisions they could make that would compel me to abandon them. 

 
 
 
CB
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1.3.1  CB  replied to  afrayedknot @1.3    last year

It is one of the oldest 'horrors' of the world: People who desert their child based on some understanding told to them. . .from a set of books. As time goes on. . .the 'ancient' books are starting to look so SUSPECT of being wrong for the times we are facing. To me, I can plainly see this too, it is as though the words of the Bible are "aging out' right before our very eyes and in reality.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.3.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  afrayedknot @1.3    last year

Where does it say the source is a parent?

Are extended families forced to keep in touch with bigots who hate them and threaten violence against them? 

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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1.3.3  afrayedknot  replied to  CB @1.3.1    last year

Religious beliefs, political views, and/or social issues should never become so self important that a child cannot make their own way in this complex world without the threat of being disowned. Everyone loses, every time. 

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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1.3.4  afrayedknot  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.3.2    last year

“Are extended families forced to keep in touch with bigots who hate them and threaten violence against them?”

Yes…and not ‘forced’, just with a sense of compassion  

Are you lucky enough to have children? If so, could you in any scenario make the decision to forsake that relationship?

 
 
 
CB
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1.3.5  CB  replied to  afrayedknot @1.3.3    last year

What I will say to that comment is, no 'child' should be forced to be without the love of those that brought him or her into the world based on something stated in a set of books! (And I read my bible still every night. Still, I will 'tell the truth' on and about it as I find it.)

As it stands I communicate and interact with a number of "anti-Christians" on this site, and in the real world nearly everyday (as people who do not believe in God or are against God for personal reasons) are all around us. I do not disassociate myself with this site, or relations in the real world, because of any religious dictate. Indeed, when faced with "the Question" to walk away from my past and 'disown' it. I refused to do so. 

Those friends of mine from my past. . . were good to me and aided in helping to make my life bearable. I will not disown them or the memories of them. I will appear before whatever God there be. . .with those memories well intact in my spirit. 

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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1.3.6  afrayedknot  replied to  CB @1.3.5    last year

“Indeed, when faced with "the Question" to walk away from my past and 'disown' it. I refused to do so.”

And kudos to you, CB.

As you so wisely stated, we all have things in our past that might bring shame, if not just regret. ‘Tis healthy to acknowledge those moments in a healthy effort to move forward for they inform whom we are in this moment.

Your faith is strong and an appreciated viewpoint in your conscientious commentary. 

 
 
 
CB
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1.3.7  CB  replied to  afrayedknot @1.3.6    last year

I humbly submit to your words. And I sincerely thank you for the recognition and understanding of my position.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.3.8  Sean Treacy  replied to  afrayedknot @1.3.4    last year
es…and not ‘forced’,

I would not expose my kids to a cousin who hated them and  who I thought might be violent with them.  

re you lucky enough to have children? If so, could you in any scenario make the decision to forsake that relationship?

you keep conflating children with "family member."  

There is no source that I am aware of that says his parents cut him off because of how much he hated them and they were afraid of him. 

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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1.3.9  afrayedknot  replied to  CB @1.3.7    last year

Offered in respect and sincerity.

We’ve never had the good fortune to meet, but guessing we would surely have a friendly conversation about any number of things should it ever come to pass. 

Peace, my brother. 

 
 
 
CB
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1.3.10  CB  replied to  afrayedknot @1.3.9    last year

Peace, my brother. It is good for me to know that someone can see the good in me as it reinforces and strengthens my resolve to do more and write more. I value this sharing together and will try to be worthy of it. :)

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2  Sean Treacy    last year

sting , not only because it shows the lengths some Christians will go to obsess on their religious belief,

Does it? Someone tells you they hate you because of your beliefs and you "obsesses" about it if bothers you?  Is that the advice you give to black people who complain about whites hating them over their skin color? Blame them for thinking about it?

The family member was scared of him because of how full of hate he was.  What exactly was this family member supposed to do? 

y to accurately or truthfully describe to law authorities what they saw happening

What other groups do you apply this standard to when someone tells them they hate them for their beliefs? 

It's amazing that someone says a person who was, at the least, tangentially involved in a murder is a hate filled bigot and your reaction is to attack the person for being bothered by it without a word of criticism for the bigot.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    last year

The obsession started before their son told them he hated their religious beliefs

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    last year

Where do you see this? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.1    last year

Lance Twiggs family are being used as FBI sources for investigating the killing.  I would say the odds are more than normal that his family members saw this incident through "Christian" colored glasses. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.2    last year
obsession started before their son told them he hated their religious beliefs

so no evidence of this. 

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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3  Mark in Wyoming     last year

Likely off topic and off direction , if so feel free to delete .

But i am wondering if they may be looking into this individual as a co conspirator, i think that is a valid and obvious question for some . 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @3    last year

apparently, the shooter left a note in their house that was destroyed before the FBI arrived.  Per the FBI, they are investigating whether the boyfriend, or anyone else in their discord group had advance notice. The boyfriend is apparently cooperating and denying any prior knowledge.

There are at least a couple of tweets and social media posts from members in that community that promise something was going to happen with Kirk on the 10th. I don't think anyone has ruled out a wider conspiracy at this point. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.1.1  bugsy  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1    last year

My guess is that a fairly large amount of people in the area knew of the plans, especially in the LGBT/trans community. They are just going quiet about it, which is to be expected. The shooter himself is not cooperating, so it will be difficult to find out who his co conspirators are.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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3.1.2  Jack_TX  replied to  bugsy @3.1.1    last year
My guess is that a fairly large amount of people in the area knew of the plans, especially in the LGBT/trans community.

Meh.  Define "fairly large".  

Most groups can't keep secrets worth a shit.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
3.1.3  CB  replied to  bugsy @3.1.1    last year

Wow. Conspiracies are a dime a dozen these days. /s  Of course, can't trust a homosexual/trans-individual to tell the truth. And yet MAGA supporters are "golden' truth-tellers and get everything right the first time.  /s

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.1.4  bugsy  replied to  Jack_TX @3.1.2    last year
Define "fairly large".  

Not sure but there is a group called "Armed Queers Salt Lake City" deleted their web pages almost right after the assassin of Kirk.

Those that follow the site and own it may have had early notice, otherwise, why delete your site?

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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3.1.5  Jack_TX  replied to  bugsy @3.1.4    last year
Not sure but there is a group called "Armed Queers Salt Lake City" deleted their web pages almost right after the assassin of Kirk.

I get that.  But that just seems like it can't be a very big group.

I agree it seems at least plausible that other people were aware, if not involved.  The questioning leading up to the murder is highly suspicious, IMO.

But there are more than 3-5 people who knew about this ahead of time and kept it secret, I'll be surprised.

 
 
 
George
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3.1.6  George  replied to  Jack_TX @3.1.5    last year
But there are more than 3-5 people who knew about this ahead of time and kept it secret, I'll be surprised.

Gibbs rule # 4

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.2  bugsy  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @3    last year

Could be but I also understand they are looking into some local left wing groups, particularly LGBT groups, that may have insider knowledge of the plans to kill Kirk.

One of them deleted their whole social media account right after the shooting. 

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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3.2.1  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  bugsy @3.2    last year
One of them deleted their whole social media account right after the shooting. 

I dont think thats going to matter . i remember when i started on the internet , i was warned once something is on it its there forever , be it on social media or private groups . its cached somewhere by some one .

( i just felt a great puckering from within the force )     joke guys , a joke .

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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3.2.2  Jack_TX  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @3.2.1    last year
I dont think thats going to matter . i remember when i started on the internet , i was warned once something is on it its there forever , be it on social media or private groups . its cached somewhere by some one .

My tiny little company website is automatically backed up every 24 hours, and we keep 30 days worth of backups.  It seems impossible that a public server offered by a massive data service isn't backed up far more often than that.

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.2.3  bugsy  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @3.2.1    last year
its cached somewhere by some one .

Sure, but they may not have known or figured they can play it off if they deleted everything.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Guide
3.2.4  CB  replied to  bugsy @3.2.3    last year

I have not heard of this local organization. It is no matter that I have not! If they are involved in injuring or killing in any way I vote that it should be exposed to the light of day! Internet Archive if an official repository of archived web sites (though nothing came up for the name: "Armed Queers of Salt Lake City." Also, there is the DISCORD cached messages that law enforcement has located and 'reported' to the media.

 
 
 
CB
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4  CB    last year

Wow. Let's just investigate everybody everywhere in the country! Do we have the bandwidth and the resources to do just that?!! I feel pretty sure all of us have a hidden secret in the dark crevices of our being 'somewhere.'  /s

 
 

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