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'Scary as all hell': Onlookers horrified as Stephen Miller parrots Nazi speech

  
Via:  John Russell  •  last year  •  58 comments

By:   Travis Gettys (Raw Story)

'Scary as all hell': Onlookers horrified as Stephen Miller parrots Nazi speech
Stephen Miller delivered a venomous speech at right-wing activist Charlie Kirk's memorial service that bore a close resemblance to one given by a notorious Nazi leader at a similar event, according to reports.

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Stephen Miller delivered a venomous speech at right-wing activist Charlie Kirk's memorial service that bore a close resemblance to one given by a notorious Nazi leader at a similar event, according to reports.

The White House deputy chief of staff and top adviser to President Donald Trump called on mourners to honor the slain 31-year-old by channeling their grief into action against their political enemies, using language that mirrored a 1932 speech given by Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels invoking the memory of 22-year-old paramilitary activist whose murder turned him into a fascist martyr.

"The day that Charlie died, the angels wept, but those tears had been turned into fire in our hearts, and that fire burns with a righteous fury that our enemies cannot comprehend or understand," Miller said, paying tribute to Kirk's widow Erika. "But I see Erika and her strength and her courage."

"I am reminded of a famous expression," the White House adviser said. "The storm whispers to the warrior that you cannot withstand my strength and the warrior whispers back: 'I am the storm.' Erika is the storm. We are the storm, and our enemies cannot comprehend our strength, our determination, our resolve, our passion."

Numerous social media users pointed out how closely Miller's themes and word choices resembled the speech Goebbels used to elevate Horst Wessel, a young member of the Sturmabteilung - or Storm Troopers - who was killed in 1930 by members of the Communist Party of Germany. His political martyrdom inspired the Nazi Party's official anthem, which later became the country's co-official anthem.

"Stephen Miller's speech at Charlie Kirk's memorial was essentially plagiarized," posted podcaster Jim Stewartson, who went on to list several examples. "See if you can spot the similarities."

"'"So our dead comrade Horst Wessel wrote, and we are fulfilling his prophesy,' Goebbels said, according to Stewartson's post. "The others may lie, slander, and pour their scorn on us — their political days are numbered. They promised you, workers, citizens and creative Germans, a Reich of freedom and beauty and dignity. People, rise up, and storm, break loose!'"

"This accurate, near-verbatim translation of key passages from Joseph Goebbels' speech titled 'The Storm is Coming' (original German: 'Der Sturm bricht los'), delivered on July 9, 1932, in Berlin," agreed attorney Tracey Gallagher, commenting on Stewartson's post. "This was a campaign rally speech in the lead-up to the July 31, 1932, Reichstag elections, where the Nazi Party (NSDAP) achieved its peak pre-1933 electoral success."

"Goebbels, then the Nazi Gauleiter of Berlin," she added, "used the speech to rally supporters by invoking the martyrdom of Horst Wessel — a young Nazi stormtrooper killed in 1930, later mythologized in Nazi propaganda as the author of their anthem, the 'Horst-Wessel-Lied.' Wake up America."

"Funny, I thought the same and checked it out," noted economist Anders slund. "Stephen Miller is Goebbels."

"This is 100% Goebbels," argued educator Jurgen Nauditt. "Terms like 'forces of evil,' 'the good,' and 'the virtuous,' as well as the notion of an 'inflamed army,' reflect a dualistic worldview that pits good against evil — a stylistic device often used in totalitarian ideologies to mobilize emotions and demonize opponents."

"It's like they made a clone of Goebbels but somehow the volume got stuck on 'screeching banshee,'" commented historian Kevin Kruse.

"Stephen Miller at Charlie Kirk's 'memorial' is scary as all hell," added popular Bluesky account Lee-in-Iowa. "'You have no idea the dragon you've awakened to save civilization. You have nothing. We will defend virtue. We are on the side of goodness, of God.'"

"Beyond grotesque," said Justin Brannan, chair of finance at New York City Council. "Miller is a megalomaniac unmoored Christian Nationalist whose rage belies any notion of grief. He turned a funeral into a rally for Trump's war on 'the left.' Even Kirk's foes are treating his death with more reverence than this!"

"Is this the most Nazi-like speech that has come directly from a US President's inner circle?" asked Reddit user carrtmann, who posted text of Miller's speech. "He manages to call 70+million Americans the enemy. Talk about lineage that built the world, and how we're not part of that lineage. Good vs evil. They're on the side of God. The lineage stuff is crazy!"

"Stephen Miller unironically seems to be an actual neo-Nazi," commented Reddit user Lallis. "This is literal Nazi rhetoric."

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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    last year

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  seeder  JohnRussell    last year

This is the number two man in the US government today. 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3  Nerm_L    last year

Stephen Miller's quote is too recent to be attributed to Goebbels.  The actual popular quotation is:  " Fate whispers to the warrior, 'You cannot withstand the storm.' The warrior whispers back, 'I am the storm' " .

AI enhanced search indicates this quotation became popular 10 to 15 years ago on the internet.  And there isn't any citation for the origin of the quotation.  It's an inspirational message for victims of trauma and people facing adversity.  

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I'm sure those who have looked to this message as inspiration to overcome adversity truly appreciate being compared to NAZIs.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Nerm_L @3    last year

Don't bother them with facts...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1    last year

Stephen Miller is the worst of America.  The fact that so many on the right approve of him is a tragedy. 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.1.2  Nerm_L  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1    last year
Don't bother them with facts...

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.1.3  Nerm_L  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.1    last year
Stephen Miller is the worst of America.  The fact that so many on the right approve of him is a tragedy. 

Stephen Miller is evangelical.  Stephen Miller is Christian.  And the political left fear him.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  Nerm_L @3.1.3    last year

Not fear....detest

And I doubt if he's a real Christian

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.5  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Nerm_L @3.1.3    last year

He looks like a Nazi talks like a Nazi and acts like a Nazi. Do you think there were no "Christian" Nazis ? 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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3.1.6  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1    last year
Don't bother them with facts...

I'm sure Miller was also drawing inspiration from his favorite political strategist...

A new Germany has arisen! It is a Germany that has fought for twelve years against Marxist betrayal and bourgeois weakness.

You, men, women and comrades, are the bearers, witnesses, builders and finishers of this unique people’s uprising. Our policies have not been popular. We have served the truth, and only the truth. For twelve years, they have insulted and outlawed and slandered and persecuted us. Now that we are standing at the doorway to power, Marxist lies have joined with bourgeois weakness to fight us. Were we only a party like all the rest, we would collapse under the offensive of our opponents. But we are a people’s movement. That is our good fortune. Here and everywhere else in the land, the red shining Swastika flag flies over people of all camps, parties, classes, occupations, and religious confessions. Our opponents laughed at us in the past, but they laugh no longer.

You men and women standing before me, a hundred or two hundred thousand in number, with heads high, upright, proud and brave, the carriers of Germany’s future, in your eyes it is written:

We think no longer in terms of class. We are not workers or middle class. We are not first of all Protestants or Catholics. We do not ask about ancestry or class. Together we share the words of the poet:

“People, rise up, and storm, break loose!”

Joseph Goebbels -  Berlin on 9 July 1932
 
 
 
Hallux
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3.1.7  Hallux  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.4    last year
And I doubt if he's a real Christian

He's of the Jewish faith.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.8  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.1.6    last year

Very Stephen Miller - like. .

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.9  Trout Giggles  replied to  Hallux @3.1.7    last year

Miller is Jewish????

But...but....upthread some one claimed he's an evangelical Christian and that's why we're afraid of him

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.1.10  Nerm_L  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.5    last year
He looks like a Nazi talks like a Nazi and acts like a Nazi. Do you think there were no "Christian" Nazis ? 

Hardly.  Stephen Miller has been accused of being a white nationalist.  It would be far more appropriate to claim that Miller is a Christian nationalist; even though that is unlikely.  But it's still quite a stretch to connect that to the NAZIs.  Miller hasn't advocated genocide or a 'final solution'.  And Miller's so-called racism has been more about merit than race.  Even in the video of Miller's remarks at the Kirk memorial Miller presents a litany of merit but not superiority.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.11  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Nerm_L @3.1.10    last year
But it's still quite a stretch to connect that to the NAZIs.  Miller hasn't advocated genocide or a 'final solution'.  And Miller's so-called racism has been more about merit than race.  Even in the video of Miller's remarks at the Kirk memorial Miller presents a litany of merit but not superiority.

When Miller talks about what "we" built and says "we" are the defenders of "the west" , what do you think he is referring to? 

Most Nazis did not advocate genocide. 

So your argument is that there is no racial component to Miller's beliefs, and he just concerned with "merit"? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.12  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.11    last year
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Stephen Miller has been widely criticized for promoting racially charged and white nationalist ideas, particularly during his time as a senior adviser in Donald Trump's administration.

🔍 Key incidents and controversies:

  • Leaked Emails to Breitbart (2015–2016): Over 900 emails sent by Miller to editors at Breitbart News revealed his promotion of white nationalist literature, racist immigration stories, and admiration for Confederate symbols. These emails showed a consistent focus on race and immigration, often highlighting crimes committed by nonwhite individuals and advocating for severely restricting nonwhite immigration.

  • White Nationalist Source Material: Miller frequently referenced and shared content from extremist sources like VDARE and The Camp of the Saints, a novel known for its racist and xenophobic themes. The Southern Poverty Law Center described his communications as “open white nationalism”.

  • Policy Influence: As the architect of the Trump administration’s “zero tolerance” immigration policy, Miller played a central role in family separation at the border. He also helped shape the travel ban targeting predominantly Muslim countries. Critics argue these policies were rooted in racial and xenophobic ideologies.

  • America First Legal: After leaving the White House, Miller founded this organization, which has filed lawsuits alleging “anti-white racism” in corporate and academic diversity initiatives. This legal strategy has been seen by many as an attempt to reframe civil rights discourse around white grievance politics.

These actions and communications have led civil rights groups, journalists, and even members of Congress to accuse Miller of advancing a racially discriminatory agenda. If you'd like, I can show how these controversies have influenced immigration law or public opinion.
 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.1.13  Nerm_L  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.11    last year
When Miller talks about what "we" built and says "we" are the defenders of "the west" , what do you think he is referring to? 

What I hear Miller talking about are Protestant Europeans who established the first form of self-government in the colonies with the 1620 Mayflower Compact.  It was Protestant Europeans that opened the frontier and established a society that later became the United States.

Yes, they were white.  Yes, they were Protestant Christians.  Yes, they enslaved Black people.  Yes, they subjugated native Indian tribes and took their land.  But that does not alter the fact that America was settled and built by white European Protestants.  Blame them for all the ills and wrongs they did.  But also give them the credit they earned for creating America.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.14  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Nerm_L @3.1.13    last year

Miller sets up an "us" vs "them" scenario based on the presumption that whites "built" America, no ?  

Where is any of that in the Constitution ? 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.15  Trout Giggles  replied to  Nerm_L @3.1.13    last year

So the Iroquois Nation had no form of government. Good to know

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.1.16  Nerm_L  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.14    last year
Miller sets up an "us" vs "them" scenario based on the presumption that whites "built" America, no ? 

That is historical fact, white Protestant Europeans built America before there was a United States.  The United States emerged from an established society.

Where is any of that in the Constitution ? 

The Bill of Rights.  The founders separated all the stuff we fight about from the Constitution.  And we can add more stuff to fight about with more amendments.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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3.1.17  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.8    last year
Very Stephen Miller - like. .

When you read Goebbels you'll find out how very MAGA he was, "Make Germany Great Again" of course, but the early methods and ideology is the same. I think anyone could very well imagine Miller giving this speech at some CPAC rally...

A new America has arisen! It is an America that has fought for twelve years against Marxist liberal betrayal and elitist empathy weakness.

You, men, women and conservatives, are the bearers, witnesses, builders and finishers of this unique conservative people’s uprising. Our policies have not been popular with liberals. We have served the truth, and only the truth. For many years, they have insulted and canceled and slandered and persecuted us. Now that we are standing at the doorway to power, liberal Marxist lies have joined with elitist empathy weakness to fight us. Were we only a political party like all the rest, we would collapse under the offensive of the Democrats. But we are the conservative people’s movement! That is our good fortune. Here and everywhere else in the land, the red shining MAGA hats sit over people of all conservatives, classes, occupations, and religions. Our opponents laughed at us in the past, but they laugh no longer.

You men and women standing before me, a hundred or two hundred thousand in number, with heads high, upright, proud and brave, the carriers of America’s future, in your eyes it is written:

'The storm whispers to the warrior that you cannot withstand my strength and the warrior whispers back: 'I am the storm.'

Erika, Kirk's widow is the storm. We are the storm, and our enemies cannot comprehend our strength, our determination, our resolve, our passion!

Actually, as pointed out above, you don't even have to imagine it, that's pretty much the speech he gave. Goebbels would be proud.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.1.18  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.1.17    last year
ou don't even have to imagine it, that's pretty much the speech he gave. Goebbels would be proud.

I'm pretty much convinced many progressives don't actually read the statements they make wild claims about. Between the Kimmel statement, the Kirk fabrications and claiming this is a rip off of Goebbels I don't know how else to explain it.  All you have to do is read to see through these idiotic claims. 

He shared a popular inspirational message for victims of trauma and people facing adversity.  He’s just like Goebels!  What  insanity

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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3.1.19  1stwarrior  replied to  Nerm_L @3.1.13    last year

Nerm - you really need to learn a bit more of your history

When the colonists began to form a governmental body to break from the tyrannical bonds of the English monarchy, the leaders of the new movement looked at various forms of previous and present world governments for examples and guidance.  They viewed the Bible, Greek, Roman, English, Middle-Eastern (Ottoman) and Native American governments and their formations.  Developing the new government was a long and tumultuous process, which began in the early 1700’s and picked up steam in the 1740’s and 1750’s resultant of policies/laws enacted by the English monarchy and his Parliament across the ocean – new taxes, land takings, and restrictions to personal freedoms.

            The basic form of government most familiar to the colonials was that of English law founded on the Magna Carta, signed in 1215 by King John II and his nobles.  The English monarchy had ousted the religious leaders, set up a centralized government and enforced very strict feudal systems – the monarch ruled, the lords managed and fought and the serfs worked.  The lords felt the monarch was too heavy-handed and they fought the monarchy and got the Magna Carta signed which, in 63 articles, defined English political and civil liberties.  Unfortunately, the authority of the Magna Carta only lasted for a few months until another civil war erupted.

When the colonists were setting up their meetings to discuss the formation/organization of the new government, they met with the leaders of the Iroquois Confederacy, a Native American government comprised of five powerful tribes of the Northeast.  The Iroquois Confederation had been formed in about the 1100 to 1300 timeframe and had been governed under the Great Law of Peace since about 1300.  The Great Law of Peace was a centralized government format that was based on input from all members of the Confederacy, not just the leaders and Clan Mothers.

            Purportedly, Benjamin Franklin, who had studied the foundation and framework of the Great Law of Peace, addressing the Albany Congress in 1754, said he didn’t see how the colonies couldn’t develop a government based on the example of the Confederacy whose government had lasted and been sustained for hundreds of years.

            The colonials may have employed some of the concepts of the Great Law of Peace in the development of the Constitution, such as participation in the governmental by all, bicameral legislature of the House and Senate, one government, common territory and common defense, freedom of religious expression, passage of laws by consensus, election by the people of one leader and removal from office by impeachment for non-performance of assigned duties.

            The development of the Constitution and framework of the U. S. government was not a quick process.  The colonists worked and researched for well over 40 years, to develop the document that we have as our guidance and pattern for individual, state and governmental rights, liberties and processes of laws – the U. S. Constitution.

So, many/most of the the "first formed government" was borrowed from the Iroquois Confederacy and the "Great Law of Peace".

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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3.1.20  1stwarrior  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.15    last year

Damn - that would be news to the Tribes/Nations/Confederacy - I betcha.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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3.1.21  1stwarrior  replied to  Nerm_L @3.1.16    last year

Not quite the historical fact that is being told of by the Tribes/Nations/Confederacies/U.S. government.

This country was WELL ESTABLISHED 'bout 20-30K years BEFORE those Euro folks had established governments.

BTW, the Bill of Rights?  The majority of the Bill of Rights came from this thing called the Magna Carta in 1216.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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3.1.22  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1.18    last year
He shared a popular inspirational message for victims of trauma and people facing adversity.  He’s just like Goebels!  What  insanity

Here are some of his words you seem to believe were "inspirational"...

" You are nothing! You are wickedness! You are jealousy! You are envy! You are hatred! You are nothing! You can build nothing! You can produce nothing! You can create nothing! We are the ones who build. We are the ones who create. We are the ones who lift up humanity." "You have no idea the dragon you have awakened. You have no idea how determined we will be to save this civilization. To save the West, to save this republic." “To our enemies, you have nothing to give, you have nothing to offer, you have nothing to share, but bitterness. We have beauty, we have light, we have goodness, we have determination, we have vision, we have strength. We built the world that we inhabit now." - Miller at Kirk Memorial Stephen Miller Laces Into ‘Our Enemies’ at Charlie Kirk Memorial Service: ‘You Are Envy! You Are Hatred! You Are Nothing!’

Yeah, that sounds like such an inspiring message for victims of trauma and people facing adversity. /s

Perhaps you meant 'incel-rationale' instead of 'inspirational'...

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.1.23  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.1.22    last year
Yeah, that sounds like such an inspiring message for victims of trauma and people facing adversity.

did you not read the seed?  Apparently not.  It claimed a specific quote about being the storm was called an "accurate, near-verbatim translation" which is just idiotic.

 t sounds like such an inspiring message for victims of trauma and people facing adversity

Per Google's AI overview:
The phrase is widely used as a secular and faith-based motivational tool. Its meaning shifts depending on the context:
  • Empowerment: The quote "Fate whispers to the warrior, 'You cannot withstand the storm.' The warrior whispers back, 'I am the storm'" suggests that one's inner strength is greater than any external challenge.
  • Spirituality: Some religious interpretations frame God as "the storm," the powerful and unstoppable force that is more mighty than any worldly trouble.
  • Self-determination: The phrase can also be a personal declaration of resilience—refusing to be defeated by challenges and instead becoming a powerful agent of change.
 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.24  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.1.22    last year

Miller's speech was intended to be racist, and was. 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.1.25  Nerm_L  replied to  1stwarrior @3.1.19    last year
Nerm - you really need to learn a bit more of your history

The Articles of Confederation was the governing document during the American Revolution (adopted 1777 and in force 1782 to 1789).  The Articles of Confederation included the typical weaknesses and shortcomings of a confederation.  Those weaknesses include a weak central government with limited power to tax, regulate commerce, or enforce laws.  (The Iroquois Confederation had the same shortcomings of weak central governing authority and limited power because all decisions required unanimous consent.)  The Iroquois Confederation was a model for the Articles of Confederation according to the U.S. Senate 's 1988 Concurrent Resolution 331 .  The Constitution built upon the Articles of Confederation which is the connection to the Iroquois Confederation.

James Madison was the "Father of the Constitution".  Benjamin Franklin served more as a mediator and did not make a substantial contribution to the Constitution.  The Iroquois Confederation and the Iroquois Law of Peace were not mentioned in the Federalist Papers which were used to promote ratification of the U.S. Constitution.  

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.1.26  Nerm_L  replied to  1stwarrior @3.1.21    last year
This country was WELL ESTABLISHED 'bout 20-30K years BEFORE those Euro folks had established governments.

But it wasn't America.  By the time of the Revolutionary War there were 2.5 million colonists in the thirteen colonies.  The United States emerged from that predominantly English society.

BTW, the Bill of Rights?  The majority of the Bill of Rights came from this thing called the Magna Carta in 1216.

Tell us again where the Magna Carta came from?

 
 
 
cjcold
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3.1.27  cjcold  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1.18    last year

You keep forgetting that there is such a thing as video. You Tube is also handy for those wanting to see/hear exactly what some far-right wing fascist hate mongering asshole said.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.1.28  Sean Treacy  replied to  cjcold @3.1.27    last year
u keep forgetting that there is such a thing as video

No, that's what makes it so tragic.  You can literally provide the video demonstrating a quote was fabricated and it simply doesn't compute. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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3.1.29  bugsy  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1.28    last year

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1stwarrior
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3.1.30  1stwarrior  replied to  Nerm_L @3.1.25    last year

Yeah, but ya gotta read the "Albany Plan" written by Franklin in 1757.

The Albany Plan of Union, drafted primarily by Benjamin Franklin in 1754, was a proposal for a unified intercolonial government for the British North American colonies to deal with mutual threats, especially from France and Native Americans during the  French and Indian War.   It called for a Grand Council chosen by the colonial assemblies and a President General appointed by the King to manage defense and Indian affairs, but the plan failed because it was rejected by both the colonial assemblies and the British Crown, neither of which wanted to concede too much power.  Despite its failure, the plan was a significant step toward recognizing the colonies as a collective body and foreshadowed later attempts at union.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.31  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1.28    last year

The tragedy is Miller is a weirdo wannabe Nazi sub furher and Republicans will not admit it. 

 
 
 
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3.1.32  Drakkonis  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1    last year
Don't bother them with facts...

That would be because this isn't about facts. It's about using whatever they can to demonize the opposition. Hitler had a dog. If miller has a dog, that is just one more piece of evidence that Miller is a Nazi. We can see this in the fact that what Miller said in his speech has only the vaguest similarity to what Goebbels said. They (the article and those like it) are just relying on the idea that they kinda sorta look similar if you use your imagination. Ironically, they are just spreading propaganda... like Goebbels. 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.1.33  Nerm_L  replied to  1stwarrior @3.1.30    last year
Yeah, but ya gotta read the "Albany Plan" written by Franklin in 1757.

  was intended as another confederation whose purpose was to regulate Indian trade, protect general trade, and provide common defense.  All the other mundane functions of government would remain within the separate colonies.

The Albany Plan had very little in common with the later Constitution.  The significance of the Albany Plan was proposing that the colonies join as a confederation for common purpose.  

 
 
 
RU4Real
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Not surprising.  I mean, he is one of the architects of Project 2025, which in and of itself is a manifesto for a master / supreme race / being.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5  Trout Giggles    last year

Miller is Goebbels? I've been saying it all along

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Trout Giggles @5    last year

He looks like a Nazi, talks like a Nazi and acts like a Nazi.  But since he is not a member of a Nazi party, well why is anyone insulting him like that? 

Miller is Trumps main adviser. It is insane. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1    last year

The whole WH is insane

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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6  Nerm_L    last year

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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6.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Nerm_L @6    last year

Let it go, Nerm. One might think you were spamming John's article.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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6.1.1  Nerm_L  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.1    last year
Let it go, Nerm. One might think you were spamming John's article.

I am directly addressing the topic of the seed. I am not turning the other participants into a topic of discussion.  I am not threatening any of the other participants.  I am not attempting to censor other comments by flagging them.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Nerm_L @6.1.1    last year

no one has flagged your comments on this article

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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6.1.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Nerm_L @6.1.1    last year

You took one theme from the article and making a big deal out of it. You're lucky I'm not the author of this seed

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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6.1.4  Nerm_L  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.1.3    last year
You took one theme from the article and making a big deal out of it. You're lucky I'm not the author of this seed

The theme of the article is this:

"I am reminded of a famous expression," the White House adviser said. "The storm whispers to the warrior that you cannot withstand my strength and the warrior whispers back: 'I am the storm.' Erika is the storm. We are the storm, and our enemies cannot comprehend our strength, our determination, our resolve, our passion."

Numerous social media users pointed out how closely Miller's themes and word choices resembled the speech Goebbels used to elevate Horst Wessel, a young member of the Sturmabteilung - or Storm Troopers - who was killed in 1930 by members of the Communist Party of Germany. His political martyrdom inspired the Nazi Party's official anthem, which later became the country's co-official anthem.

I've refuted the claims that Miller's quotation was in any way connected with Goebbels.  The theme of the article is premised on a falsehood.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.1.5  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Nerm_L @6.1.4    last year

Do you think Miller is a psychologically normal human being ? 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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6.1.6  Nerm_L  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.5    last year
Do you think Miller is a psychlogically normal human being ? 

How should I know?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
6.1.7  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Nerm_L @6.1.6    last year

Dont you think that is important to figure out about the second most powerful person in the administration?

We already know # 1 is nuts. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
7  Sean Treacy    last year

I will say the idea that “onlookers were horrified”  is A plus sensationalism that is so over the top as  to be funny.  

 
 
 
freepress
Freshman Silent
8  freepress    last year

He is not uniting Americans but exploiting a tragedy to divide Americans.

Shouldn't he have spoken about plans to unite America against gun violence? That would be a better tribute to honor any victim of gun violence.

The right wing assumption that Democrats don't care is false, since time and time again there are efforts to reach out to Republicans for better gun laws and more funding for mental health.

Did Republicans wear their AR15 pins to this memorial the way they did in the halls of the Capitol and Congress in response to any Democrat proposals to new gun laws? 

If Republicans truly cared after they lifted the Bush assault rifle ban at some point they could have had a great uniting of Americans by passing the ban again.

They never unite or cross party lines and as the years went by with one mass shooting after another, they grow more callous, hateful and contrarian refusing to offer solutions.

I truly believe that the majority of Americans are horrified by this tragic event, but exploiting this to inflame hatred further and divide America further is not the answer.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
8.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  freepress @8    last year
He is not uniting Americans but exploiting a tragedy to divide Americans.

Amazing. Just amazing. It's the right "who isn't uniting Americans" 

did the right shoot someone for speaking their mind? Did they celebrate a murder for political reasons? Did they destroy  public remembrances to Kirk and publicly protest at memorials? 

Just once some accountability or at self awareness from the left would be a miracle at this point. 

Shouldn't he have spoken about plans to unite America against gun violence?

What gun law would have prohibited this shooting? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
8.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @8.1    last year
It's the right "who isn't uniting Americans" 

Is it your opinion that Trump is not trying to divide Americans ? 

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Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Expert
8.1.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.1    last year

Hmmm. Why, then, is it okay for dem/lib/liv to refer to their "opponents" as nazis or fascists (even though they can't seem to grasp the concept that not many of them know what the hell they are talking about).

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
8.1.3  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @8.1.2    last year
Why, then, is it okay for dem/lib/liv to refer to their "opponents" as nazis or fascists

For those who've spent any time learning world history, it's hard not to have thoughts of Nazi propaganda pop into your head when listening to Miller and other rightwing conservatives speak. If you hear a mockingbird quack like a duck, you still have thoughts of ducks even if you know it's a mockingbird.

 
 
 
Drakkonis
Professor Participates
8.2  Drakkonis  replied to  freepress @8    last year
He is not uniting Americans but exploiting a tragedy to divide Americans.

You speak as if we had been united before Trump. We weren't. We have been divided for a long time now and many of the differences are irreconcilable. There are issues where there can be no unity. 

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
8.2.1  charger 383  replied to  Drakkonis @8.2    last year
          "There are issues where there can be no unity. "
I think you are right

 
 

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