What, Exactly, Is the 'Russia Hoax'?
By: RSNNOW
David A. Graham
06 August 25
To start with, it's not a hoax.
One of Donald Trump's tells is his talk of the "Russia hoax." When that phrase passes his lips, it's a sign that the president is agitated about something.
In the past two weeks, for example, as questions about the administration's handling of files related to Jeffrey Epstein have dominated headlines, Trump has been talking often about "the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax, and many other hoaxes too," as he put it in an interview with Newsmax on Friday. Tulsi Gabbard, the director of national intelligence, also released documents last week that her office said shed new light on this "Russia hoax." Attorney General Pam Bondi has reportedly ordered a grand-jury investigation into claims that Obama-administration officials broke laws while investigating Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.
The DNI's office doesn't explain exactly what the "Russia hoax" is, and for good reason. First, although the phrase has achieved talismanic status in Trump world, it has no set definition, because Trump keeps changing the meaning. Second, and more important, it's not a hoax.
Here's what is not in dispute: The United States intelligence community concluded that Russia sought to meddle in the 2016 election and, according to a GOP-led Senate investigation, wanted to help Trump. As Special Counsel Robert Mueller wrote in a report summarizing his findings, "The Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion." Trump's son Donald Trump Jr., his son-in-law Jared Kushner, and his campaign chair Paul Manafort met at Trump Tower in June 2016 with Russians who they believed would hand over "dirt" on Hillary Clinton. (Steve Bannon—Steve Bannon!—called the meeting "treasonous.") A Trump 2016-campaign aide boasted to an Australian diplomat that Russia was trying to help the Trump campaign, and then lied about his Russian contacts to FBI agents. Trump publicly called on Russia to hack Clinton's emails in July 2016—jokingly, he has since said—and Russian agents attempted to do so that very day, according to the Justice Department. Hackers who the U.S. government believes were connected to Russia obtained emails from a number of Democratic Party officials and leaked them publicly, and Trump pal Roger Stone was apparently forewarned about some. Major tech companies, including Facebook and Twitter (now X), also confirmed that they had detected dubious Russian activity.
In spite of all of this evidence, or perhaps because of it, Trump has loudly insisted that it's all a hoax. He's used the phrase off and on since spring 2017, though he's changed what he means. For a time, he made the claim—without evidence then, and without any since—that the federal government under Barack Obama had wiretapped or improperly surveilled him. At other times, he has claimed that the whole thing is a "witch hunt." Often, he generically used the term hoax to refer to any allegations about Russian involvement in the 2016 election. He even sued the Pulitzer Prize Board over a statement honoring reporting on connections between the Trump campaign and Russia. (The case is ongoing.)
His attempts to instill doubt have been assisted by the fact that some of the wilder rumors and reports concerning his campaign didn't turn out to be true. Carter Page, a Trump campaign adviser, was a bit of an eccentric character but not a traitor, as some suggested, much less the key to unraveling any grand conspiracy. Trump was probably not communicating with a Russian bank via a mysterious server. He was almost certainly not a longtime Russian-intelligence asset. The so-called Steele dossier was full of falsehoods. I argued at the time that BuzzFeed's decision to publish it was a grievous error, and it warped conversation about the Trump campaign's ties to Russia.
Mueller's highly anticipated investigation also landed with a big thud. First, expectations for his report had been inflated by an overeager circle of Trump critics who had expected shocking new revelations; the revelations were indeed shocking, but by the time Mueller published them, most had already filtered out in press accounts. Second, debate over Trump's ties to Russia had focused on "collusion," which is not a specific crime. This produced a semantic sideshow argument in which Trump insisted that he couldn't have colluded, because he wasn't charged with it. Third, Attorney General Bill Barr misrepresented Mueller's findings. Fourth, Mueller did not recommend charges against Trump, thanks to Justice Department guidance against charging a sitting president, which meant that although the special counsel produced an unmistakable implicit accusation, Trump claimed vindication.
Trump's use of pardons may have induced some of his confederates—including Stone and Manafort—to not cooperate with prosecutors, or to only partly cooperate, thus depriving the public of a chance at receiving a full accounting. This was a kind of legalized obstruction of justice.
Plenty of authorities have pointed out that Trump's claim of a hoax is nonsense. In 2017, PolitiFact named that its lie of the year. In 2018, The Washington Post reported: "Trump's Russia 'Hoax' Turns Out to Be Real." In 2019, a report by the Justice Department's inspector general concluded that, as my colleague Adam Serwer put it, "the 'Russia hoax' defense is itself a hoax, and a highly successful one, aimed at reassuring Trump supporters who might otherwise be troubled by the president's behavior." Still, the idea that the whole thing was a chimera has taken hold even within some precincts of the mainstream press, where the whole thing is treated as a weird passing obsession. The journalist Ben Smith, who made the decision to publish the Steele dossier, now contends, vaguely and in passive voice, that "Trump was in retrospect treated unfairly."
Meanwhile, Trump world continues to cook up new iterations of the hoax claim. The most recent ones are driven by CIA Director John Ratcliffe, who has a history of weaponizing intelligence, to use a term he's a fan of, and Gabbard, who has for years repeated Kremlin talking points. Last month, Ratcliffe alleged that in 2016, three of the nation's top intelligence officials "manipulated intelligence and silenced career professionals—all to get Trump," but as my colleague Shane Harris reported, he didn't have evidence to back that up. Gabbard has released a dribble of documents intended to bolster it, but still nothing that matches the claims.
In recent days, MAGA allies have pushed a new and shocking allegation: that emails show Clinton actually approved a plan to smear Trump by claiming he was colluding with Russia. The problem is that, once again, investigations have debunked it. A special counsel appointed by Barr during Trump's first term, with the goal of ferreting out political skulduggery in the Russia investigation, found that messages about Clinton being treated as a smoking gun were, in fact, likely concocted by the Russians. As The New York Times reported, "The special counsel, John H. Durham, went to great lengths to try to prove that several of the emails were real, only to ultimately conclude otherwise."
Durham's finding of a Russian forgery is ironic: Someone has finally turned up a real Russia hoax. Rather than working to fight it, however, Trump's aides are once more colluding with Russia to mislead the American people and further Trump's political fortunes.
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We'll be having to post factual articles like this until the day Trump dies, and maybe after that too.
It doesn't matter. No credible evidence of collusion was found. Everyone with a functioning brain exactly knows what happened and have moved on.
Write a couple paragraphs about what happened.
OK here goes.
Barrack Obama authorized his DOJ to push a false narrative about supposed Trump collusion with Russia. His DOJ obediently obeyed and did everything they could to push Trump out of the 2016 race. This illegal action continued through Trump's first term and all through the 2024 election season with puppet Biden continuing the false attacks.
After 10 years of false accusations, charges that were originally past the time limit for prosecution and were miraculously upped to felonies, tried to get him off ballots, had lemming DAs file charges that have been since debunked or dismissed, it has been proven over and over again that there was no collusion, but leftist lemmings keep harping things that are not true.
The end.
Nice fairytale I suppose.
When you just make stuff up there is no limit to the imagination.
So counter what I posted
It would be less of a waste of time if I just tell you to read the damn article.
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The Russian hoax is the idea that trump colluded with Russia to steal the 2016, electtion. Even the cia knew in 2016 that it was a creation of Hillary clinton in order to deflect from her own felonious behavior and there was never a valid reason to investigate trump or for a special prosecutor, as the russian involvement was no different than it and other countries have done before or since.
The Russia "hoax" argument is tethered to the Steele Dossier. The existence of suspicious interaction between the Trump campaign and Russians goes quite a bit past that.
Donald Trump called for Russia to hack his presidential opponent Hillary Clinton. The whole world saw it. His defenders say it was a "joke", but we can easily know it was not a joke because in 2018 and again in 2022 Trump asked other countries , including Putin, to deliver him dirt on his next presidential opponent.
What in hell is so hard to understand about this ?
Trump WANTED Russia to meddle in our elections. He fucking asked them to, more than once.
The unwillingness to see reality by some is maddening.
Trump was secretly negotiating with Vlad Putin to build a Trump Tower in Red Square in Moscow Russia directly across the street from the Kremlin right up to election day in 2016! That is collision!
You have been proven wrong over and over about this...
You cannot hack a hard drive that is unplugged in an FBI closet.
It is time to move on.
You have never proven me wrong in your life.
Trump asked Russia to interfere in the 2016 election.
Trump asked Ukraine to interfere in the 2020 election.
Trump asked Russia again to interfere in the 2024 election.
Wrong
"Trump asked Ukraine to interfere in the 2020 election. "
Strike 2
"rump asked Russia again to interfere in the 2024 election."
Strike three
You have literally posted THOUSANDS of "I hate Trump but really don't know why" waster bandwidth on here and NEVER have you given any proof of anything you have posted.
Dont be offended when I tell you you dont know wtf you are talking about.
It actually means absolutely nothing to me.
However, because you can't counter a damn thing I posted, that shows I absolutely do.
Trump Asks Putin to Dig Up Dirt on Biden Family
Either COUNTER what I say with facts or I am going to start deleting you.
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No he wasn’t and even if he was it wouldn’t be collusion.
The Russian interference in the 2016 election was to encourage divisions in the United States. (Many different countries have done the same thing since the Iranian hostage crisis.) Democrats ran with that ball during Trump's entire first term.
The Russian Hoax is now moot since Biden kicked Putin's ass in Ukraine. Didn't Democrats take care of this problem? Under Biden's strong leadership, Russia has been isolated and pushed off the international stage. NATO has expanded and is stronger than ever as a significant part of Biden's legacy. Biden made the United States stronger and Putin weaker, didn't he?