America Has Lost The Plot
For an hour and a half or so yesterday there was scuffling between police at the Broadview Il ICE detention facility and a group of protesters. I havent seen video of any injuries, but there have been arrests.
The most visible difference between this day and others there is the number of uniformed police. The are many dozens of them. They are now warning the protesters they may be gassed.
Is anyone ready for 3 more years of this, or maybe worse? Noem said a couple days ago that ICE is just getting started in Chicago, I guess so if just getting started means blatant racial profiling and snatching non criminals up off the street when they are at an outdoor cafe or just walking down the street.
The American people dont want this or like this - which is why there are so many videos of citizens yelling "fuck you" to cops.
America loves an underdog, and non violent and non criminal migrants who are being snatched up for living everyday life are the ultimate underdogs.
God help us.
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The disturbances will get worse unless ICE confines itself to stopping and arresting criminals.
Stop assaulting federal officers and the disturbances will go away.
You should be mad at your governor and every other official who spent the last few decades lying to illegals and telling them they were safe from deportation. Now Trump has to clean up the mess they caused by not doing the bare minimum (complying with detainer requests for arrested criminals).
As long as you stop grandmas on the street who have been here for 30 years with no criminal record and send them to detention centers for deportation, it is going to get worse. I'm flabbergasted that you dont understand that.
ICE in Chicago has been stopping and arresting people simply because they appear to be non white. This is not America, and people will never accept it no matter how much you try and run cover for Trump.
Terrible that your state encourages them to break the law and apparently manipulated most of your state into believing federal law doesn't apply there.
The grandmas should sue Pritzker for lying to them.
Stop brutalizing peaceful civilians and maybe people will stop attacking federal officers. Stop taking pleasure in the dehumanization of people and maybe the attacks will diminish.
But the cult never wants to self-reflect. It’s heresy to suggest that any of the anger directed at them - be it verbal or physical - could in any way be brought on by their own behavior.
And then we see the whining of false victimhood. We’re supposed to care about agents under assault, but not the families being torn apart, or the people being injured or arrested for nothing more than expressing themselves.
It’s like a man who sexually assaults women or beats his wife blaming his victims for the scratches on his face.
Peaceful citizens are not getting "brutalized." Such silly hyperbole.
r the people being injured or arrested for nothing more than expressing themselves.
Lol. You can't be making the argument with a straight face.
whining of false victimhood. We’re supposed to care about agents under assault, but not the families being torn apart, or the people being injured or arrested for nothing more than expressing themselves.
Though this is perfect projection at least. false victimhood indeed.
Yes, they are. Of course, if you’re the kind of person who thinks it’s not brutal to shoot a pastor in the head with pepper pellet, or throw people to the ground who aren’t fighting you, then there’s probably no point in trying to convince you. Unless you want to take one for the team, and see how it feels.
Why is it "heresy" to suggest that the enforcement of US law directed at people in the country illegally could in any way be brought on by their own behavior?
Why ask me to clarify something I didn’t say?
Is anyone actually reading my comments? Or just reacting?
Why do you consider throwing rocks, molotov cocktails, firing mace, physically assaulting officers, setting cars and dealerships on fire and actually shooting and killing agents nothing more than expressing themselves?
I never said that, so your question on it is clearly dishonest. Why do you need to invent things I didn’t say?
They are all fucking criminals if they are here illegally, the protests will stop when 20 year sentences start coming down for assaults on ICE officers
As long as you stop grandmas on the street who have been here for 30 years with no criminal record and send them to detention centers for deportation, it is going to get worse.
No, it’s a civil violation, not a crime.
A civil violation is still a crime.
Someone allowing their dog to crap on your lawn is a civil violation. Does that make it acceptable?
No, it isn’t. It truly is not. There is a difference. No one goes to prison just because they were present in the country illegally. The remedy for that is deportation, not jail. And about half of the people who are here illegally, entered legally.
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What the left seems to think is all ICE officers are Miss Cleo, how they supposed to know if they are criminals unless they pick them up and run them through the system?
according to AI (google)
Thank you for the facts, but I am sure our friends on the left here will somehow try and spin it to where they will say most fit the second description.
It’s literally what I already said.
The president is a “fucking criminal.”
That presumes they didn't enter illegally.
Overstaying a visa is a civil violation. Entering illegally is a crime.
This is a weird thread. It seems like you guys are trying to “correct” me by repeating things I have already said.
Either way I don't believe someone could survive in this country for thirty years as an Illegal without committing hundreds of other crimes just to live and work. How many times has this Grandma misrepresented herself in thirty years?
Its hard to take this comment seriously.
Why?
If she worked then she stole someone’s identity to do so. If she worked for many years, she stole that identity for those many years.
you are making a wild guess.
How do Undocumented Workers File Tax Returns Without a Valid Social Security Number?
Though certain non-citizens are eligible for to receive Social Security numbers to pay taxes, unauthorized immigrants are ineligible to receive one. However, it is still law that individuals who reside in the United States, whether legally or not, and earn income here must pay taxes on that income, and file a tax return, regardless of whether the income was earned as an undocumented worker—a complicated legal conundrum.
Further, the IRS will not allow a tax return to be filed with a fake or stolen Social Security number. Therefore, unauthorized workers who wish to file their taxes–and potentially get future credit for it— must find another way. Thus, many use the Individual Taxpayer Identification Number, or ITIN, which allows immigrants without Social Security numbers to legally file tax returns and claim the income reported on their W-2’s to the IRS.
I always wondered what that was. I see it on documents that require my social or applications for credit cards and such
Do you have proof she had a ITIN?
The ITIN is not useful for working, as it is only useful for federal tax purposes. Obtaining an ITIN will not change your immigration status or give you the right to work in the U. S. Working in the United States without documentation is illegal. Anyone who works without an employment authorization risks receiving a penalty that can range from fines to being deported from the country. Therefore, to get a job legally in the United States, foreign workers must first have obtained one of the following. Having an Employment Authorization Document (EAD), a PERM work permit, a Green Card, or lawful permanent residence. ▷ How to get a job in the United States while being illegal | Curbelo Law
This answer should be simple and two words.....
"You don't".
If you read through the information in the Link that's pretty much what it says. In order to legally work in the USA an Illegal/Undocumented Immigrant must become a Legal/Documented Immigrant in some way that allows Legal Employment. The only way around it is to work Illegally by lying about immigration status and falsifying documents or working under the table for an employer who falsifies documents to account for the money being paid out or to present their employee as legally employable in which case the immigrant and possibly the Employer would be breaking multiple Laws.
I fully agree, but there are many leftists who believe that if an illegal makes it into the country, they should be able to work.
That is BS
Not necessarily.
For all we know she cleaned houses or cut hair or sold paintings to tourists or tutored Spanish or any of a thousand other ways to make a living without stealing somebody else's identity.
I understand and agree, however, post 1.2.16 insist that illegals pay income taxes. I pointed out that if they did, they probably stole someone's identity.
"I guess so if just getting started means blatant racial profiling and snatching non criminals up off the street when they are at an outdoor cafe or just walking down the street."
It would be awful if that is really happening, but it's not. Just more fake news
LOL
As of September 21, 71% of ICE detainees have no criminal convictions.
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Trump's war on America continues.
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You haven't noticed the Dem cities being invaded by trump's brown shirts? Really?
The only brown shirts are the left wing ANTIFA that are violently accosting ICE detention center and agents. For some reason s/, the left is treating them as if they are the cictims
These actions are designed to incite violence to bolster the Presidents probable declaration of an insurrection. The citizens don't even have to do anything besides be there. They increase the amount of uniformed officers, take them onto the street where the protesters are, throw some smoke and bangs then knock down someone so their camera crews can video them kicking the shit out of somebody.
Preferably the somebody is wearing black.
Then they retreat into the safety of the processing center where they can make their propaganda films. The people who were arrested can be released with a warning that the government can decide to press charges for up to a year.
All very crooked. All very disgusting. All very, very in character for the ICE commander.
Did ICE deport people during the Obama and Biden regimes?
Did you know Obama was known ad the ‘deporter in chief’ as his own ICE ‘brown shirts’ deported more than what Trump has done.
Where was your poutrage about these people being rounded up and deported then?