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Treasury is Delivering Millions of Economic Impact Payments by Prepaid Debit Card | U.S. Department of the Treasury

  
Via:  Nerm_L  •  5 years ago  •  50 comments

By:   Secretary Janet L. Yellen

Treasury is Delivering Millions of Economic Impact Payments by Prepaid Debit Card | U.S. Department of the Treasury
 

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I received an EIP Card in the mail today.  Didn't know these even existed.  This is just another way to feed government money into a middleman bank.

What I want to know is who came up with this bright idea?  And why haven't they been fired?


S E E D E D   C O N T E N T



This week, Treasury and the IRS started to send approximately 8 million Economic Impact Payments (EIPs) by prepaid debit card. The distribution of EIP Cards follows the millions of payments already made by direct deposit and the ongoing mailing of paper checks and are part of Treasury’s and is IRS’s plan to deliver Economic Impact Payments as rapidly as possible.

EIP Cards are safe, convenient, and secure. Cardholders can make purchases online or in-stores anywhere Visa® Debit Cards are accepted, get cash from domestic in-network ATMs, transfer funds to a personal bank account, and obtain a replacement EIP Card if needed without incurring any fees. They can also check their card balance online, through a mobile app, or by phone without incurring fees. The EIP Card provides consumer protections including certain protections against fraud, loss, and other errors.

EIP Cards will be sent in a white envelope that prominently displays the U.S. Department of the Treasury seal. The EIP Card has the Visa name on the front of the Card and the issuing bank name, MetaBank®, N.A. on the back of the card. Each mailing will include instructions on how to securely activate and use the EIP Card.

EIP Cards are being issued to eligible recipients across all 50 states and the District of Columbia. In order to quickly disburse EIPs, some people who received EIPs by paper check for the first round of EIPs might receive an EIP Card this time, and some people who received an EIP Card for the first round may receive a paper check.

EIP Cards are sponsored by the Treasury Department’s Bureau of the Fiscal Service. The EIP Card is part of Treasury’s U.S. Debit Card program, which provides prepaid debit card services to federal agencies for the electronic delivery of non-benefit payments. MetaBank N.A. was selected as Treasury’s financial agent for the U.S. Debit Card program in 2016, following a competitive selection process conducted by the Treasury’s Bureau of the Fiscal Service. For more information about EIP Cards, please visit   EIPCard.com .

The swift issuance of this second round of payments follows the successful delivery of more than 159 million CARES Act Economic Impact Payments totaling more than $270 billion last year.


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Nerm_L
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1  seeder  Nerm_L    5 years ago

Who came up with this bright idea?  And why haven't they been fired?

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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2  seeder  Nerm_L    5 years ago

Why not just include handouts to banks in appropriation bills?  That would be easier for Congress and less annoying for me.

I am not going to express gratitude for being used as a pass-through to give money to some politician's banker buddy.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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3  Ronin2    5 years ago

Guess Biden is desperate to stimulate the economy; and give his donors from the banking industry some kickbacks in the process.

 
 
 
Wishful_thinkin
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3.2  Wishful_thinkin  replied to  Ronin2 @3    5 years ago

My husband and I received our first stimulus payment by way of one of these cards and that was under the Trump administration so these have been around longer than this current payment going out.  I guess Trump's donors from the banking industry got some kickbacks too by your logic.   

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.2.1  Split Personality  replied to  Wishful_thinkin @3.2    5 years ago

Thank you, you beat me to it. jrSmiley_91_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.2.2  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  Wishful_thinkin @3.2    5 years ago
My husband and I received our first stimulus payment by way of one of these cards and that was under the Trump administration so these have been around longer than this current payment going out.  I guess Trump's donors from the banking industry got some kickbacks too by your logic.   

First time I've of heard of these things.  Whenever these were issued and whoever issues them; they're just giving public money as a kickback to a bank.

You bet, Trump's donors got a kickback.  That's the whole point of issuing cards.  I'm not getting relief money from the government, I'm getting money from a bank.  

And that's okay as long as political points can be scored?  Whoever came up with this bright idea should be fired.

 
 
 
Wishful_thinkin
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3.2.3  Wishful_thinkin  replied to  Nerm_L @3.2.2    5 years ago

The first time I heard of them was last year when we received our first payment on one.  I had to google it to make sure it was legitimate.  Our second payment was by way of check. I really hope we don't get the current payment on one of these cards again.  

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.2.4  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  Wishful_thinkin @3.2.3    5 years ago
The first time I heard of them was last year when we received our first payment on one.  I had to google it to make sure it was legitimate.  Our second payment was by way of check. I really hope we don't get the current payment on one of these cards again.  

MetaBank even runs it's own Political Action Committee.  Seems to support Republicans.  How convenient.  The kickbacks are laundered into donations.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.2.5  Split Personality  replied to  Nerm_L @3.2.2    5 years ago
You bet, Trump's donors got a kickback.  That's the whole point of issuing cards.  I'm not getting relief money from the government, I'm getting money from a bank.  

Are you being irate for the sake of it?

The bank card is just a means to an end.  Only the government can put money into the individual's account.

US government debit cards have been around for decades,

Treasury’s financial agent, MetaBank, will mail EIP Cards to eligible recipients beginning this week. Each mailing will include instructions on how to activate and use the card.

The EIP Card is part of Treasury’s U.S. Debit Card program, which provides prepaid debit card services to federal agencies for the electronic delivery of non-benefit payments. MetaBank was selected as Treasury’s financial agent for the U.S. Debit Card program in 2016, following a competitive selection process conducted by the Treasury’s Bureau of the Fiscal Service.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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3.2.6  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Wishful_thinkin @3.2    5 years ago

My first was a check.  My second was a card.  The third according to the IRS web site will be DD which I have yet to see.

 
 
 
pat wilson
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3.2.7  pat wilson  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @3.2.6    5 years ago

Same with me. Mine was DD on 3/24.

 
 
 
evilone
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3.2.8  evilone  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @3.2.6    5 years ago

I got the first 2 by check and this last one by direct deposit last week.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.2.9  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  Split Personality @3.2.5    5 years ago
Are you being irate for the sake of it?

The bank card is just a means to an end.  Only the government can put money into the individual's account.

US government debit cards have been around for decades,

Aren't you ecstatic that a Republican bank knows how you are using your debit card?  What you buy and where you buy it?

I can deposit a check into my bank account and I can spend cash.  I don't need to activate a check, only endorse it.  And I don't have to deal with political cronies.

 
 
 
pat wilson
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3.2.10  pat wilson  replied to  Nerm_L @3.2.2    5 years ago
they're just giving public money as a kickback to a bank.

What really stank was Wells Fargo, Chase and some other banks received the funds but left them in the payees' accounts as "pending" for three of four days before the funds were available. Nice little chunk of interest for the banks while their customers waited. 

 
 
 
pat wilson
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3.2.11  pat wilson  replied to  Nerm_L @3.2.9    5 years ago

Your bank already knows how you spend your money and they give you an accounting of it every month in your statement.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.2.12  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  pat wilson @3.2.11    5 years ago
Your bank already knows how you spend your money and they give you an accounting of it every month in your statement.

No, they don't because I use cash.  I don't pay for things with plastic because I don't want all the calls to extend by auto warranty.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.2.13  Split Personality  replied to  Nerm_L @3.2.12    5 years ago

Nerm, transfer the card value to your checking account and be done with it.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.2.14  Split Personality  replied to  pat wilson @3.2.10    5 years ago

Different event, that was the small business protection program under Trump.

But you are correct, they took advantage of it.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.2.15  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  Split Personality @3.2.13    5 years ago
Nerm, transfer the card value to your checking account and be done with it.

I may just toss the damn thing and be done with it.

What a disappointment.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.2.16  Split Personality  replied to  Nerm_L @3.2.15    5 years ago

$1400.00 ?  really? Just toss it in the trash?

smh

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.2.17  Split Personality  replied to  evilone @3.2.8    5 years ago

I have to pay income taxes every year which was the reasoning in the past for Bush and Trump to mail checks to me weeks after

everyone else got direct deposit.

This time they they used the information from Social Security and made a direct deposit.

Almost makes too much sense, lol.

 
 
 
evilone
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3.2.18  evilone  replied to  Split Personality @3.2.17    5 years ago

Last year was the first year in over a decade I didn't owe taxes. 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.2.19  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  Split Personality @3.2.16    5 years ago
$1400.00 ?  really? Just toss it in the trash?

Yeah, really.  I was looking forward to the check to help with dental work I deferred because of the pandemic.  But I'm not sure it's really worth playing these stupid games.

I'm hearing impaired.  How do I activate the card?  That's the first challenge.  And then my phone number will be on a list sold to marketing scammers.  Why else would activating the card require calling a number?  You think the bank won't make as much money as possible off this boondoggle?  The second challenge will be trying to transfer the money since the bank I use closed its lobby last May because of the pandemic and only has a drive through available.  I'm hearing impaired, remember?

I'm handicapped.  This EIP Card doesn't accommodate my handicap.  Trying to play this stupid game will be frustrating and make me feel stupid and angry with myself.  I'm not sure that's worth $1,400.  I've been there, done that.

Just tossing the damn thing is a very real option.  What a disappointment.

 
 
 
pat wilson
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3.2.20  pat wilson  replied to  Split Personality @3.2.14    5 years ago

Are you sure ? I thought it was stimulus payments. It was just a few weeks ago.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.2.21  Split Personality  replied to  pat wilson @3.2.20    5 years ago

No stimulus went through any banks, it comes direct from Treasury.

Small business rescue loans went to dozens of banks to disperse at the beginning of the disbursement.

All part of the package.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.2.22  Split Personality  replied to  Nerm_L @3.2.19    5 years ago

Money Network Privacy Statement | Money Network Economic Impact Payments (eipcard.com)

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Yes. The limit on ACH transfers to a bank account is $2,500 per transaction. You can easily transfer the money from your EIP Card to an existing bank account online at   EIPcard.com   or by using the Money Network Mobile App. You will need the routing and account number for your bank account. To transfer funds:
  1. Call   800-240-8100   (TTY:   800-241-9100 ) to activate your card.
  2. Register for online or mobile app access by going to EIPCard.com or the Money Network Mobile App and click on “Register.” Follow the steps to create your user ID and password. Be sure to have your EIP Card handy.
  3. Select “Move Money Out” and follow the steps to set up your ACH transfer. Transfers should post to your bank account in 1-2 business days.
Questions and Answers about the Second Economic Impact Payment | Internal Revenue Service (irs.gov)
 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.2.23  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  Split Personality @3.2.22    5 years ago

Did you read the privacy statement?

The only thing this proves is that government can't even give away money without screwing it up.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.2.24  Split Personality  replied to  Nerm_L @3.2.23    5 years ago
Did you read the privacy statement?

Yes.

I got you the tty number, I cannot do more than that.

On next years tax return, lie and say you never got the card, then you can take a credit, because the IRS will know that is true ( or not ).

but I am done with the topic.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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3.2.25  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  pat wilson @3.2.7    5 years ago

According to the IRS website, first it said DD.  I went back yesterday to see when I would get it and it now saws "check to address".jrSmiley_98_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.3  Ozzwald  replied to  Ronin2 @3    5 years ago

Guess Biden is desperate to stimulate the economy; and give his donors from the banking industry some kickbacks in the process.

You do realize this is the same method used previously............don't you?

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.3.1  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  Ozzwald @3.3    5 years ago
You do realize this is the same method used previously............don't you?

No, I wasn't aware.  Trump really fucked up.  Replacing Trump with Biden certainly didn't change anything.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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3.3.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Nerm_L @3.3.1    5 years ago

There has been change, especially in regards to the pandemic.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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3.3.3  Ozzwald  replied to  Nerm_L @3.3.1    5 years ago
No, I wasn't aware.

Shouldn't you have looked it up before making the assertion?

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3.3.4  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  Ozzwald @3.3.3    5 years ago
Shouldn't you have looked it up before making the assertion?

That EIP Cards are a fuck up that should be eliminated?  I don't care who is responsible as long as they are held responsible for this fuck up.

Yeah, I knew the government had become corrupted but I didn't know it had gotten this bad.

No wonder people don't trust the government any more.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3.3.5  Split Personality  replied to  Nerm_L @3.3.4    5 years ago

You are way out on a limb.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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3.3.7  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Nerm_L @3.3.4    5 years ago

My second was by card and I had no problem with it.  There is like 37 cents left on it.

 
 
 
Wishful_thinkin
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4  Wishful_thinkin    5 years ago

My husband and I received our first stimulus payment on one of these cards.  When we received it, I had to search online to make sure it was legitimate as I saw no announcement that these cards would be issued as part of the stimulus.  

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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4.1  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  Wishful_thinkin @4    5 years ago
My husband and I received our first stimulus payment on one of these cards.  When we received it, I had to search online to make sure it was legitimate as I saw no announcement that these cards would be issued as part of the stimulus. 

Yep, I did the same thing.  I have no idea who are what Metabank is and really shouldn't have to find out.

Crap like this is why people don't trust the government any more.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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5  Split Personality    5 years ago

These cards have been around for decades and used by various Federal agencies and the military for travel allowances and other expenses.

The U.S. Debit Card program is a complete financial management solution that enhances an agency’s financial control through immediate payment options, auditing and spending reports, and fraud protection 1 . The program reduces agency dependence on cash and checks, supports the Paperwork Reduction Act, and reduces funds held outside the U.S. Treasury. Standard card program implementation, with training, takes 60-90 days. During this time, your agency will work closely with an experienced and dedicated team of professionals to ensure a satisfactory roll-out.

Various agencies are currently using the U.S. Debit Card in 40+ programs for:

  • Stipends, awards, and grants
  • Imprest funds and third-party drafts replacement
  • Miscellaneous vendor payments
  • Travel payments to local visitors and international guests

Card Features and More

  • Cards can be used to access funds in local currency at hundreds of thousands ATMs, including approximately 56,000 surcharge-free ATMs
  • Cards can be branded to use anywhere Visa ® debit cards are accepted, or limited to specific merchant categories
  • Cardholders can select a Personal Identification Number (PIN) to protect against theft
  • Cards are fully Reg E compliant
  • Cards are FDIC protected
  • Your agency can choose to instantly issue cards for immediate distribution
  • Money can be loaded online for real-time funding on a single card or multiple cards simultaneously
  • Customer service is available 24 hours a day, seven days a week

The Feds began using it for stimulus delivery in May of 2020, under the previous Administration, ergo, nothing to do with

kickbacks to Biden or Trump.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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5.1  Split Personality  replied to  Split Personality @5    5 years ago

I specifically remember that it worked for hotels and airfare, not gas stations. 

And hotels always tried to give you the guaranteed government/military

rate but it was often a higher rate than one could get online.  So we checked in at the lowest rate with a personal credit card

then switched cards to check out.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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5.2  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  Split Personality @5    5 years ago
The Feds began using it for stimulus delivery in May of 2020, under the previous Administration, ergo, nothing to do with kickbacks to Biden or Trump.

So I've learned.  Trump royally fucked up.  And replacing Trump with Biden obviously hasn't fixed the fuck up.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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5.2.1  Split Personality  replied to  Nerm_L @5.2    5 years ago

Technically Meta Bank outbid the previous Bank and others in 2016.

So there's your opportunity to blame yet another Administration for what amounts to nothing but normal business practices.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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5.2.2  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  Split Personality @5.2.1    5 years ago
Technically Meta Bank outbid the previous Bank and others in 2016. So there's your opportunity to blame yet another Administration for what amounts to nothing but normal business practices.

Then why aren't Democrats fixing this?  Who is responsible for this fuck up?

If the Treasury Dept. can't conduct government business without using some bank then eliminate the Treasury Dept.  They're only middlemen wasting public money.  Fire 'em all and just let the banks take care of the government treasury.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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6  Split Personality    5 years ago

There's nothing to fix except your perception of this service.

I cannot help you with that.

Carry on swatting at windmills...

 
 

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