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Trump says he'll issue $2,000 tariff dividend to all except 'high-income people'

  
Via:  Nerm_L  •  last year  •  30 comments

By:   Isabella Murray (ABC News via MSN)

Trump says he'll issue $2,000 tariff dividend to all except 'high-income people'
 

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Trump is planning to use our money to pay us to kiss his ass?  And Trump isn't even promising real money; it's tax cuts.

When did MAGA become another tool for Wall Street?


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President Donald Trump on Sunday claimed that a “dividend of at least $2000 a person” will be paid to all Americans except for “high-income people,” saying the country is now wealthy as a result of his tariff policies.

“People that are against Tariffs are FOOLS! We are now the Richest, Most Respected Country In the World, With Almost No Inflation, and A Record Stock Market Price. 401k’s are Highest EVER,” the president wrote.

“A dividend of at least $2000 a person (not including high income people!) will be paid to everyone,” he added.

In an interview on ABC News' "This Week" on Sunday, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said that he had not spoken with Trump about the proposed dividend.

Calling opponents to tariffs "fools," Trump claimed "A dividend of at least $2000 a person (not including high income people!) will be paid to everyone."

"The $2,000 dividend could come in lots of forms, in lots of ways, George," Bessent told anchor George Stephanopoulos. "You know, it could be just the tax decreases that we are seeing on the president's agenda -- you know, no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on Social Security, deductibility of auto loans."


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Nerm_L
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1  seeder  Nerm_L    last year

The American people really would be willing to make some sacrifices for real, tangible benefit to the country.  Tariffs would be more acceptable if there were clear signs that the United States was becoming more competitive and less dependent upon foreign suppliers.

Record stock markets and growing 401k claims are just more TEA Party lies.  If Trump believes he can convince the American people that small government lifts all boats then Trump is just another TEA Party imbecile.  We have an entire financial industry that can tell us those sorts of lies, we don't need Trump.

Where's the factories?  Where's the damned jobs, Donnie boy?  

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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2  Jack_TX    last year
Trump is planning to use our money to pay us to kiss his ass?

That's a pretty interesting interpretation of "letting you keep more of your own money".

And Trump isn't even promising real money; it's tax cuts.

Are you suggesting that you won't be able to spend it?  

When did MAGA become another tool for Wall Street?

I'm confused as to how this would be a bad thing in and of itself.  What do you believe they should they be doing differently?

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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2.1  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  Jack_TX @2    last year
That's a pretty interesting interpretation of "letting you keep more of your own money".

Trump is promising to give back the money I paid for tariffs.  Trump imposed tariffs, raised prices, collected the revenue, and is now promising to return what we paid for the tariffs.

Are you suggesting that you won't be able to spend it? 

I already spent it on tariffs.  What will I be getting back?  What is Trump going to give me?  Why do I need Trump collecting money from me and then returning government scrip instead of real money?

I'm confused as to how this would be a bad thing in and of itself.  What do you believe they should they be doing differently?

Wall Street has never, ever produced anything of tangible value.  Wall Street is just a financial middleman exploiting transactions between sellers and buyers.  Wall Street facilitates concentration of wealth in passive investing.  Wall Street extracts profits that could be better invested in productive activities, job creation, and wages that support consumption which would grow the economy.

Wall Street functions the same way as a regressive tax that redistributes wealth to the wealthy.

 
 
 
Krishna
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2.1.1  Krishna  replied to  Nerm_L @2.1    last year
Wall Street functions the same way as a regressive tax that redistributes wealth to the wealthy.

Sometimes.

Other times it merely distributes wealth to those who are smarter ...and/or who have put in the time and effort to do their own research . . .

 
 
 
charger 383
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3  charger 383    last year

$2,000 would be a nice Christmas present and many people would spend some of it on presents

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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3.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  charger 383 @3    last year

They better put it in the bank since it will barely cover a couple months of the rise in their health insurance premiums once Republicans succeed on ending Obamacare.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3.1    last year

If the ACA worked as the Democrats claimed that wouldn't be an issue.  But since they forced that trash on the people...

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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3.1.2  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.1    last year

Imagine if it never was a thing.  The Republican dream of poor people dying early and losing what little money they had to a capitalist system that demands your money or your life would have come true even earlier.  Never fear though, Republicans have a very secret concept of a plan. jrSmiley_82_smiley_image.gif jrSmiley_82_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3.1.2    last year
Imagine if it never was a thing. 

Premiums wouldn't have skyrocketed for so many. 

People wouldn't have been fined for non-compliance. 

Billions in taxpayer funds wouldn't have been wasted

The Republican dream of poor people dying early and losing what little money they had to a capitalist system that demands your money or your life would have come true even earlier.

There is the unfounded opinion we've all come accustomed to seeing.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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3.1.4  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.3    last year

And low income people would have no health insurance and lose what little money they had trying to fend off their early death, just as I said.  Maybe try to address that?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3.1.4    last year
And low income people would have no health insurance and lose what little money they had trying to fend off their early death

Maybe explain how and why they were fined for not having health insurance.  

Maybe try to address that?

Go ahead.  Nobody is stopping you.  While you are at it address why the democrats sat on their hands for so long about all this.  Address why it's not working as they claimed.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3.1.6  Sean Treacy  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3.1.4    last year

lol. You think Obamacare invented Medicaid?

lose what little money they had trying to fend off their early death, just as I said

thats funny. A few days ago weren’t you claiming health care was tied to life expectancy, yet America actually its life expectancy go down after Obamacare.  By your logic, Obamacare kills poor people early.

 
 
 
JBB
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3.1.7  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1.6    last year

Obama Care, the ACA, expands Medicaid by extending subsidies to lower income families who could not afford thousands a month for health insurance.  Without these subsidies they will go uninsured. 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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3.1.8  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.5    last year

I realize this is difficult for you, but instead of trolling just make some effort at addressing the comment.  The whatabout shit is so fucking old. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.9  JohnRussell  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3.1.8    last year

It was old five years ago.  I do believe he thinks he is winning though. 

 
 
 
goose is back
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3.1.10  goose is back  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3.1    last year
ending Obamacare.

Obamacare is ending itself; the product can't survive without subsidies from the government. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.11  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3.1.8    last year
The whatabout shit is so fucking old. 

Yet here you are.  Again.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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3.1.12  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.1.11    last year

Lol.  What am I whatabouting about?  My comment is clear, consistent, and focused, while you grasp at straws like you always do.  You will say anything just to be a complete troll.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.13  Trout Giggles  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3.1.12    last year
What am I whatabouting about?

You're not

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.14  JohnRussell  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3.1.12    last year

There are people who have nothing informative to say but insist on saying it anyway. It is a foundational feature of current public discourse. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Guide
3.1.15  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3.1.12    last year
What am I whatabouting about?

3.1.2.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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3.1.16  Jack_TX  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3.1    last year
They better put it in the bank since it will barely cover a couple months of the rise in their health insurance premiums once Republicans succeed on ending Obamacare.

Not how any of that works, but whatever.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Professor Quiet
3.1.17  Jack_TX  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3.1.4    last year
And low income people would have no health insurance and lose what little money they had trying to fend off their early death, just as I said.  Maybe try to address that?

Start saying things that aren't complete fantasy and maybe people will address them.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Professor Quiet
3.1.18  Jack_TX  replied to  JBB @3.1.7    last year
Obama Care, the ACA, expands Medicaid by extending subsidies to lower income families who could not afford thousands a month for health insurance.  Without these subsidies they will go uninsured. 

Not how that works.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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3.1.19  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Jack_TX @3.1.17    last year

Is English new to you?  There’s nothing too complex about connecting the dots between not being able to afford health insurance and experiencing bankruptcy over ensuing bills from a single uninsured medical event.  But you know this already.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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3.1.20  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Jack_TX @3.1.16    last year

Are you ok?[✘]

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Professor Quiet
3.1.21  Jack_TX  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3.1.19    last year
Is English new to you?

No, but the American healthcare system is literally foreign to you.

You appear to misunderstand both Medicaid and the Affordable Care Act.

There is no shame in that for a Canadian.  Most Americans don't know the difference between Medicare and Medicaid, much less how the tax credits work.

So maybe read up a little and get back to us.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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3.1.22  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Jack_TX @3.1.21    last year

Being too poor to afford health insurance and too well off to qualify for Medicaid or too young to qualify for Medicare is not some unique circumstance in this country.  Again, you already know this.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Professor Quiet
3.1.23  Jack_TX  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3.1.22    last year
Being too poor to afford health insurance and too well off to qualify for Medicaid or too young to qualify for Medicare is not some unique circumstance in this country. 

The ACA didn't solve that.  That's the problem.  

It also didn't fix the primary problem we were told it would address, the number of uninsured Americans.

The Biden expansion did not make it any better.

The better question than "what if the ACA was never passed would be "what if it was done properly".

Warning, math would have been required and the 26 year old Congressional staffer political science majors who actually wrote the law are famously terrible at math.

It's also worth noting here that the expanded tax credits that are the subject of the shutdown were enacted as a means of dealing with a national emergency which has long since passed.

The arguments that elimination of those.credits somehow constitutes"taking away people's healthcare" are incredibly self damning. 

They  scream that emergency measures are now the bare minimum, which means no amount of money will ever satisfy these people.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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4  Ed-NavDoc    last year

I'll believe it when the check clears in my checking account and not before.

 
 

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