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Where are the liberal media 'fact checks' on Imane Khelif now?

  
Via:  GregTx  •  last year  •  30 comments

By:   Zachary Faria

Where are the liberal media 'fact checks' on Imane Khelif now?
Liberal media fact checkers were so confident Imane Khelif was a woman. Where are they now that Khelif is fighting against genetic testing?

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During the 2024 Olympics, liberal media "fact checks" had a lot to say about Algerian boxer Imane Khelif's gender. Now that Khelif is refusing genetic sex testing while still trying to box women, where are those fact-checkers?

World Boxing introduced mandatory genetic testing for female boxers in May. Khelif is trying to get that testing requirement thrown out, appealing it to the Court of Arbitration for Sport so that the athlete can compete in the World Boxing Championships against women in September without undergoing genetic testing.

You may recall Khelif as being one of two women's boxers competing at the 2024 Olympics who had previously been banned by the International Boxing Association for failing genetic tests. The Olympics allowed them to compete because their passports listed them as female, and the two proceeded to beat every woman in their path.

At the time, people pointed out Khelif's failed IBA sex tests, but liberal media quickly declared the IBA to be a Russian propaganda organization. The Washington Post "fact checker" Glenn Kessler claimed that this was a "prominently debunked claim" initially "pushed by dubious Russian entities" and that "the questions surrounding Khelif's sex at birth … were settled." (Emphasis added). CNN's Daniel Dale called it a "lie" to claim that Khelif was a male who had "transitioned" and that the IBA, with its "extensive ties to the Russian government," had "never substantiated" its claims.

So here's a question now: If Imane Khelif truly is a female boxer, why not simply affirm that through a genetic test and move on with life? Why is Khelif so desperately committed to avoiding a noninvasive genetic test that every other female boxer will undergo with no problems?

The most likely answer is probably the correct one. The IBA could only release Khelif's genetic test results if Khelif requested it or if a court ordered it (which is why it couldn't "substantiate" that claim, Daniel Dale). Khelif refrained from suing the IBA for eligibility, which would lead to the public release of those records, and hasn't requested that the IBA release those results to show the world the truth. Now, Khelif is fighting against every opportunity to offer proof of being a woman. Why would Khelif be doing all this if there wasn't something to hide?

The claim that Khelif is a woman lies only with Khelif's passport and the word of the corrupt International Olympic Committee. Khelif could have easily proved being a woman multiple times over by now, but the athlete instead fights against any effort to secure a genetic, public answer to that question. Khelif's attempts to circumvent World Boxing's test indicate exactly where those test results would lead, so where are those liberal "fact checkers" who anointed themselves as the final arbiters of truth now?


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GregTx
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1  seeder  GregTx    last year
At the time, people pointed out Khelif's failed IBA sex tests, but liberal media quickly declared the IBA to be a Russian propaganda organization. The Washington Post "fact checker" Glenn Kessler claimed that this was a "prominently debunked claim" initially "pushed by dubious Russian entities" and that "the questions surrounding Khelif's sex at birth … were settled." (Emphasis added). CNN's Daniel Dale called it a "lie" to claim that Khelif was a male who had "transitioned" and that the IBA, with its "extensive ties to the Russian government," had "never substantiated" its claims.

So here's a question now: If Imane Khelif truly is a female boxer, why not simply affirm that through a genetic test and move on with life? Why is Khelif so desperately committed to avoiding a noninvasive genetic test that every other female boxer will undergo with no problems?
 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2  Sean Treacy    last year

Where are the apologies from all the progressives mocking the woman boxer who complained about being beat up by a man?

 
 
 
George
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2.1  George  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    last year

Right next to the ones that blamed trump and MAGA for beating up Jussie Smollet. or the hands up don't shoot morons.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3  JohnRussell    last year

This is an issue that entirely rests with the governing bodies of the various sports.  

In other words, I dont give a shit. 

If they say he's a man he shouldnt box, if they say he isnt a man he should be allowed to.  Or change the governing bodies. 

 
 
 
GregTx
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4  seeder  GregTx    last year

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  GregTx @4    last year

Good stuff. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5  Tacos!    last year
Where are the liberal media 'fact checks' on Imane Khelif now?

Don't ask questions like this unless you're willing to accept an answer you might not like.

Khelif is trying to get that testing requirement thrown out, appealing it to the Court of Arbitration for Sport so that the athlete can compete in the World Boxing Championships against women in September without undergoing genetic testing.

No, actually, she just missed the deadline for the testing . It's not just her, though. So did several other fighters. Apparently, this new rule was sprung on them before they had a chance to get tested. I don't know how long it takes to get this done or what the procedure is, but Khelif is not the only fighter being denied permission to compete. The entire French team is also excluded. Additionally, fighters from Fiji, Nigeria, and Dominican Republic are also out.

 
 
 
GregTx
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5.1  seeder  GregTx  replied to  Tacos! @5    last year
In June, World Boxing unveiled a new policy of mandatory sex testing.

From your link. Seems like plenty of time if it's something of importance. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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5.1.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  GregTx @5.1    last year
From your link. Seems like plenty of time if it's something of importance. 

Also from the link:

The tests that are now in place have been banned in France since 1994. As a result, French female fighters at the Championship were unable to test before arriving in England.

'It is with stupefaction and indignation that the French team learned on Wednesday evening the French women's boxing team would not be able to compete in the first World Championships organised by World Boxing.

'Despite guarantees given to us by World Boxing, the laboratory which they recommended to us was not up to the task of delivering the results on time.

'As a result our athletes as well as those from other countries have been caught in this trap and excluded.' - French Boxing Federation statement

So, the tests were banned and NOT AVAILABLE in France which is why 5 of their fighters missed the deadline.

Seems like all of that is "of importance" and completely annihilates the religious conservatives' position that this specific athlete is somehow refusing to take the test and thus should be assumed to be male. But conservatives will never be accused of being cautious, they clearly prefer to just ignorantly come in and stomp all over every topic with their big beyond stupid religious opinions.

 
 
 
GregTx
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5.1.2  seeder  GregTx  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.1.1    last year
The tests that are now in place have been banned in France since 1994. 
So, the tests were banned and NOT AVAILABLE in France which is why 5 of their fighters missed the deadline.

Huh, wonder why they were banned? I also wonder why the team management wasn't competent enough to take care of that beforehand...

But conservatives will never be accused of being cautious, they clearly prefer to just ignorantly come in and stomp all over every topic with their big beyond stupid religious opinions.

Another good one, but I think you just described progressives....

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5.1.3  Tacos!  replied to  GregTx @5.1    last year

Clearly, no one here really knows that.

 
 
 
GregTx
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5.1.4  seeder  GregTx  replied to  Tacos! @5.1.3    last year

Knows what? Which month June is?

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5.1.5  Tacos!  replied to  GregTx @5.1.4    last year

You don’t know the process, and at least four countries lost athletes in this instance. But you have a weird need to obsess on just one person.

 
 
 
GregTx
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5.1.6  seeder  GregTx  replied to  Tacos! @5.1.5    last year
But you have a weird need to obsess on just one person

Hilarious....

Are you suggesting I have Khelif Derangement Syndrome?...

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5.1.7  Tacos!  replied to  GregTx @5.1.6    last year

Hmm. Something to consider.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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5.1.8  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  GregTx @5.1.2    last year
Huh, wonder why they were banned? I also wonder why the team management wasn't competent enough to take care of that beforehand...

Lot's of wondering but zero actual logical thought. How do either of your made-up issues make any difference as to the facts of this case? This athlete did not refuse "genetic sex testing while still trying to box women" as this total bullshit seed claims. I'm not saying I know whether she is female or not, I'm simply pointing out that this was not as conservatives are framing it which makes conservatives dishonest fucking pieces of shit, but most people with more than half a brain know that already so they always take anything the dumb fuck MAGAites have to say with entire shaker of salt.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Tacos! @5    last year

All he has to do is take a cheek swab. One can only imagine why he’s not been blue to accomplish that since June.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5.2.1  Tacos!  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.2    last year

Unless you can prove we’re talking about a man, you should use female pronouns.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5.2.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Tacos! @5.2.1    last year

A genetic test that shows “Chromosome analysis reveals male karyotype" is proof.  Until he submits evidence that overrides that conclusion (and he's avoiding the chance to do that) it would be dishonest to call him anything else.  He can use whatever name he wants, but I'm not going to lie on his behalf. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5.2.3  Tacos!  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.2.2    last year

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Sean Treacy
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5.2.4  Sean Treacy  replied to  Tacos! @5.2.3    last year

I guess stooping to the level of a four year old is your only option. Per you, all it takes for someone to use male pronouns is to want to be called by them.  So, if you were consistent, you'd have to use male pronouns to refer to me regardless of reality. But you aren't and you obviously have no problem intentionally using pronouns incorrectly to advance your agendas regardless if they cause offense.

I call him a man because that's what he is per the scientific evidence. You use the wrong pronouns  intentionally to provoke a response. See the difference?

 
 
 
GregTx
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5.2.5  seeder  GregTx  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.2.4    last year

Doubtful 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5.2.6  Tacos!  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.2.4    last year
So, if you were consistent, you'd have to use male pronouns to refer to me regardless of reality.

Why are you mad? Do I have some reason to know you as male or female?

I call him a man because that's what he is per the scientific evidence.

What scientific evidence?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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5.2.7  Greg Jones  replied to  Tacos! @5.2.1    last year

"Unless you can prove we’re talking about a man, you should use female pronouns."

Why?  Simply because he identifies as a woman. That's pretty weak and stupid reasoning

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Tacos!
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5.2.8  Tacos!  replied to  Greg Jones @5.2.7    last year
Simply because he identifies as a woman.

Sure, how else would I know?

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.3  bugsy  replied to  Tacos! @5    last year

There is no ‘her’ about this dude.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5.3.1  Tacos!  replied to  bugsy @5.3    last year

How do you know?

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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5.3.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Tacos! @5.3.1    last year
How do you know?

Perhaps he spent a night crying in the shower after doing his own examination...

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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5.4  Greg Jones  replied to  Tacos! @5    last year

Why do you call him a "she"?

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5.4.1  Tacos!  replied to  Greg Jones @5.4    last year

Why wouldn’t I?

 
 

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