Bannon's effort to paint himself as victim may not work because the real victims are Trump supporters: Legal expert - Raw Story - Celebrating 18 Years of Independent Journalism

Via:  Devangelical  •  7 months ago  •  19 comments

By:   Matthew Chapman (Raw Story - Celebrating Years of Independent Journalism)

Bannon's effort to paint himself as victim may not work because the real victims are Trump supporters: Legal expert - Raw Story - Celebrating 18 Years of Independent Journalism
Bannon's effort to paint himself as victim may not work because the real victims are Trump supporters: Legal expert

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Longtime Donald Trump ally Steve Bannon has long sought — much like his former boss — to portray himself as a victim of a prosecutorial system weaponized against Trump and his ideology, this week calling new charges against him "phony" and vowing "they will have to kill me" to stop him from his political activism.

But on Thursday's edition of MSNBC's "The ReidOut," former Brooklyn prosecutor Charles Coleman argued that the new money laundering and conspiracy charges, stemming from his efforts to steal money out of his own "We Build The Wall" nonprofit project crowdfunding Trump's border wall construction, is different in a way that may make it harder for Trump supporters to take his claims of martyrdom seriously.

"This is an interesting sort of development in that what he's charged with is not hurting the republic or fomenting an insurrection, it's hurting Trump donors," said anchor Joy Reid. "I wonder, inside of Trump world, is he being supported or not? It was Trump's own people that he harmed."

"That's an interesting question because if you think about it, like you said, these are all Trump supporters in New York City who actually sent him money," said Coleman. "So the question becomes, at a certain point, does it become better or worse for business for you to be sort of persecuted by a politicized media and politicized justice system that has been weaponized against all things Trump?"

"I think that narrative holds to a degree, but when you talk about defrauding Trump supporters, I'm not sure it goes well," Coleman added. "This may not play so well because you've defrauded your own people. You've taken money from and grifted your own supporters."

The new charges in New York come after federal indictments for the same scheme were handed down two years ago, only for Trump to pardon him on his way out of office. It also comes as Bannon is scheduled to be sentenced on his conviction for contempt of Congress, after he refused to cooperate with subpoenas from the House Select Committee investigating the January 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol.

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1  seeder  devangelical    7 months ago

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2  SteevieGee    7 months ago

Trumpies unite!  Don't allow the SDNY to prosecute your supreme leader's favorite hobo.  Send him at least twice as much as you gave him for a wall.  Give until it hurts.  Rent and breakfast are commie liberal ideas anyway.

Professor Principal
3  Kavika     7 months ago

Bannon should join the other con artists, that waged this con.

Professor Principal
3.1  seeder  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @3    7 months ago

LOL, his life is now only worth a case of ramen and a brick of velveeta...

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4  Dismayed Patriot    7 months ago


And what we know now is that one of Bannon's hands was picking their pockets...

I have to admit, I feel slightly conflicted about this. On one hand, Bannon is a total dirt bag, but on the other hand, he was stealing from other total dirt bags, white supremacists, neo-Nazi's and rightwing conservatives who were clearly begging to be taken advantage of and got what they deserved.

Sadly, these gullible morons who got ripped off won't end up blaming Bannon but will continue to blame Biden and Democrats for all their financial problems.

Professor Principal
4.1  seeder  devangelical  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4    7 months ago

ripping off and shaking down the moronic base is a cottage industry within the hierarchy of the trump cult.

Professor Principal
4.2  Ender  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4    7 months ago

Anyone that was sending him money to build a wall is a special kind of stupid.

Professor Principal
4.2.1  Tessylo  replied to  Ender @4.2    7 months ago

Anyone sending anyone in that criminal enterprise of an administration one penny is a special kind of stupid.  

Professor Principal
4.2.2  seeder  devangelical  replied to  Tessylo @4.2.1    7 months ago

millions of mentally defective trumpsters willing to send cash for nothing in return. sign me up.

Professor Principal
5  Ender    7 months ago

All he had to do was set up a Pac like everyone else and he would have been fine.

Then pay himself a huge salary...

Professor Guide
6  Tacos!    7 months ago
it's hurting Trump donors," said anchor Joy Reid. "I wonder, inside of Trump world, is he being supported or not? It was Trump's own people that he harmed."

I think the identity of the victims here is a neutral factor, at best. Support or lack of it from Trump or his supporters strikes me as unlikely to impact the case much. Suppose you do get Trump supporters in the jury pool. If political bias is relevant for them, I think they’re most likely going to assume that everything Brannon did was just fine and there aren’t actually any Trump donor victims. So it works out the same as if they (the alleged victims) were not Trump supporters.

All I can think about the charges is “we’ll see.” There are endless charities and fund-raisers in this country, and all of them spend money on allowed expenses that are not the primary purpose of the fund-raising. The percentage varies - wildly. Do the people who run these things have a right to be paid for their time and energy? Usually. It’s up to donors to investigate the causes they give to and how efficiently the funds are transferred to the intended beneficiaries.

Also, it’s tough not to see the whole investigation and prosecution as being politically motivated. NY prosecutors have had a hardon for all-things-Trump ever since he was elected. I think that bias - more so than the identity of alleged victims - has greater potential to impact the case..

Professor Principal
6.1  Ender  replied to  Tacos! @6    7 months ago

I would say a lot of people in NY were looking at donald and his practices before he decided to run. He has a very checkered history.

Every time someone says anything against donald is political, I can only think, look at his history and past because it is not all about him and being political, it was always about him being a crook.

It reminds me of the gangster they finally took down for tax evasion. They cannot find anything to stick him with directly yet everyone knows he is a crook.

Professor Principal
6.2  seeder  devangelical  replied to  Tacos! @6    7 months ago

too bad republicans forgot to take women's right to vote away before they tried to take away their rights to bodily autonomy. oops.

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7  JohnRussell    7 months ago

Bannon tried to channel a Founding Fathers era hero when he blurted out in the courtroom the American naval commander John Paul Jones' famous line " I have not yet begun to fight" . 

Be afraid America, be very afraid .  jrSmiley_91_smiley_image.gifjrSmiley_88_smiley_image.gif

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8  seeder  devangelical    7 months ago

poor steve. gee, I sure hope the guards in his cell block stay awake, the security cameras work, and he doesn't get  any cheap sheets for his bunk, and you just never know who's in the yard looking to make some bonus points.

Professor Principal
9  Kavika     7 months ago

Jail house uniforms will look a lot better than the homeless person's garb that he now wears.

Professor Principal
9.1  seeder  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @9    7 months ago

gee, I wonder how many shirts they'll give him to wear...

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9.2  afrayedknot  replied to  Kavika @9    7 months ago

“Jail house uniforms…”

Perhaps a new past tense verb for those about to serve time: You’ve been ‘bannonized’…

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9.2.1  Kavika   replied to  afrayedknot @9.2    7 months ago

And Bannon has been served.


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