DOJ 'closing in' on Trump: bombshell NYT report suggests indictments are likely to 'start flying' - Raw Story - Celebrating 18 Years of Independent Journalism

  
Via:  Devangelical  •  4 months ago  •  33 comments

By:   Matthew Chapman (Raw Story - Celebrating Years of Independent Journalism)

DOJ 'closing in' on Trump: bombshell NYT report suggests indictments are likely to 'start flying' - Raw Story - Celebrating 18 Years of Independent Journalism
DOJ 'closing in' on Trump: bombshell NYT report suggests indictments are likely to 'start flying'

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On CNN Thursday, retired Harvard Law professor Laurence Tribe reacted to the news that the Justice Department believes former President Donald Trump is hoarding more documents on his property — a development that experts believe is a sign prosecutors are seriously weighing charges against the former president.

"What do you think where the Justice Department might be headed?" asked anchor Anderson Cooper.

"It certainly suggests the Justice Department is closing in on indicting Donald Trump," said Tribe. "Not simply for basically stealing top secret documents from the White House and secreting them in various locations ... but also for violating the Espionage Act and, based on this recent reporting, obstruction of justice."

Specifically, Tribe argued, the DOJ has evidence Trump is obstructing both a "national security inquiry" and a "criminal investigation." "There are people whose lives are at stake if their identity has been revealed in some of these top secret documents, which clearly were marked 'human resource.' They were marked to indicate that they would reveal the identity or location of, basically, American spies abroad. They were marked signals intelligence. So this is very serious. And what I take these recent revelations to mean is that shortly after the midterm elections, indictments are likely to start flying."

"You believe that the Department of Justice might actually indict the former president?" Cooper pressed him.

"I believe that it might well indict the former president for obstruction, for espionage," said Tribe. "This is all quite apart from the possible indictment for seditious conspiracy and insurrection. I mean, it's as though he is building a moat around Mar-a-Lago and then trying to swim in it himself. Basically, with every stroke he takes, with every move he makes, he is digging himself a deeper, deeper pit ... his lawyers must be absolutely beside themselves because he makes matters worse. He says 'I want my documents back.' He brags about having taken them himself. Then he says the General Services Administration packed the boxes, but they deny it. You almost expect him to say my dog packed the boxes, except we know he doesn't have a dog."


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devangelical
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1  seeder  devangelical    4 months ago

Trolling, taunting, spamming, and off topic comments may be removed at the discretion of group mods. NT members that vote up their own comments, repeat comments, or continue to disrupt the conversation risk having all of their comments deleted. Please remember to quote the person(s) to whom you are replying to preserve continuity of this seed. Any use of the phrase "Trump Derangement Syndrome" or the TDS acronym in a comment will be deleted.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1  seeder  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @1    4 months ago

I wonder which one of trumpski's inept legal team will be the first to roll over on him to escape their own looming indictment and disbarment?

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.1  seeder  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @1.1    4 months ago

maga = making attorneys get attorneys

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @1.1.1    4 months ago

The magaturds lawyers need lawyers

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devangelical
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1.1.3  seeder  devangelical  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.2    4 months ago

my money is on that OAN bimbo that signed off on all documents delivered to the DOJ to flip 1st...

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @1.1.3    4 months ago

You'd have to be desperate to represent that fucking moron

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.5  seeder  devangelical  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.4    4 months ago

meh, maybe she likes mushroom dicks...

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2  Tessylo    4 months ago

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JohnRussell
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3  JohnRussell    4 months ago
indictments are likely to 'start flying'

The more the merrier. 

Trump is likely to be indicted in Georgia as well for trying to steal their 2020 presidential election. 

  1. Fulton County prosecutor investigating Trump aims for …

    ...

    The   Georgia   prosecutor leading an investigation into efforts by Donald   Trump   and his allies to overturn the 2020 election is aiming to quickly wrap up the grand jury's work   after   the midterm ...

 
 
 
evilgenius
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4  evilgenius    4 months ago

Right now it's all speculation - no different than when the other side proclaimed Clinton would be indicted any day. I do find it interesting the time tables on these stories are pretty well both aligned during election years. 

Do ANY of you partisans left or right have ANY idea how you may be manipulated by for profit media companies?

Please wake me up when someone actually has to show up in court...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1  JohnRussell  replied to  evilgenius @4    4 months ago
Please wake me up when someone actually has to show up in court...

Ok. Enjoy your sleep. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.2  Tessylo  replied to  evilgenius @4    4 months ago

Oh for fucks' sake.

 
 
 
evilgenius
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4.2.1  evilgenius  replied to  Tessylo @4.2    4 months ago

I know you are all jonesing to see him in an orange jumpsuit. If it happens? Awesome. I'm not going to hold my breath. Also an indictment doesn't mean a whole lot here - short term. Trump is a master at slowing things to a bare crawl and it would be years before you see him inside a court room and a conviction on political charges is rare. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.2.2  seeder  devangelical  replied to  evilgenius @4.2.1    4 months ago

I agree. he'll probably get clipped well beforehand by somebody in the party that is tired of his BS and can afford to do it without leaving a trail.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.2.3  Tessylo  replied to  evilgenius @4.2.1    4 months ago

Yeah, whatever.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.2.4  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @4.2.2    4 months ago
"I agree. he'll probably get clipped well beforehand by somebody in the party that is tired of his BS and can afford to do it without leaving a trail."

That would be fantastic!  Problem solved!

 
 
 
Snuffy
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4.3  Snuffy  replied to  evilgenius @4    4 months ago
Right now it's all speculation

Yep,  if it weren't so boring and predictable it might be funny.  There have been so many "might be guilty" stories that have been pushed for years now, and the believers lap it up.  You're not allowed to sit back and wait for any actual charges, if  you do then you are either a denier or   you support the other side.  It's about as entertaining as the old Bud Light commercials  (Tastes great / Less filling) but not as witty.  

And you are so correct about the timing.  All put out to influence an upcoming election.  It's kind of like two sets of monkeys up in their respective trees just flinging poo at each other.

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.3.1  seeder  devangelical  replied to  Snuffy @4.3    4 months ago
two sets of monkeys up in their respective trees just flinging poo at each other

what does the current rift in the GOP have to do with this article?

 
 
 
Snuffy
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4.3.2  Snuffy  replied to  devangelical @4.3.1    4 months ago

Predictable reply but incorrect.  The two sets of monkeys are the Democrat and Republican party members.  

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.3.3  seeder  devangelical  replied to  Snuffy @4.3.2    4 months ago

... and the shit they're flinging is represented by trumpsters.

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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4.4  afrayedknot  replied to  evilgenius @4    4 months ago

“Right now it's all speculation…”

And speculation breeds misinformation, and misinformation breeds conspiracy theories, and conspiracy theories breed yet more speculation…a continual downward spiral that sucks us all down the swirling drain.

Pathetic.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.4.1  JohnRussell  replied to  afrayedknot @4.4    4 months ago

The American justice system takes years to slowly grind its way into action. Meanwhile there are constant elections and political deliberations that take place on a much faster timetable. 

Trump is the most criminal president in US history, and frankly, that cannot be said too often during a period when he is exerting influence on a major political party to have his corrupt back. 

People who are tired of hearing about all this may want to find a hobby to keep them away from the news for a while. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.4.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @4.4.1    4 months ago
Trump is the most criminal president in US history

I'm not saying he's 100% innocent.  I'm not saying he's 100% guilty.  What I am saying is all the "bombshells" and "smoking guns" are really showing otherwise. 

I'm sure it doesn't help that all these investigations appear to have a political bias and many have been dropped for one reason or another.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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4.4.3  Snuffy  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.4.2    4 months ago
I'm not saying he's 100% innocent.  I'm not saying he's 100% guilty.  What I am saying is all the "bombshells" and "smoking guns" are really showing otherwise.  I'm sure it doesn't help that all these investigations appear to have a political bias and many have been dropped for one reason or another.

Now you know you're not allowed to say that.  Didn't you get the memo?  If your not on the bus jumping up and down and screaming at the sky then  you are defending him...   hehe

All those bombshells and he's still walking around free.   Seems just yesterday there were several people on this very board who were convinced that he was about to be handcuffed and perp-walked out of the Oval Office.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.4.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Snuffy @4.4.3    4 months ago

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Snuffy
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4.4.5  Snuffy  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.4.4    4 months ago

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Jeremy Retired in NC
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5  Jeremy Retired in NC    4 months ago

OH NO!!!! Another "Bombshell".  This is what, number 625?

 
 
 
Ronin2
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5.1  Ronin2  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5    4 months ago

From the partisan POS at the DOJ no less.

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Right Down the Center
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5.2  Right Down the Center  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5    4 months ago

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Kavika
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6  Kavika     4 months ago

Lock'em up

 
 
 
Revillug
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7  Revillug    4 months ago

I have been waiting since 2017 for one of these "any day now"
 leaks to amount to anything. Remember how the Mueller Report was a complete waste of everyone's time? And then later how the impeachment over Jan 6th was delayed until after Trump was out of office?

It makes you wonder who actually runs this country and how it is actually run.

Who exactly is it that doesn't want Trump held to account and why?

If there is a shadow government somewhere in this country, don't bother looking for it somewhere in the Deep State. You will probably be more likely to find it somewhere in our Dark Money.

EDIT: In an attempt to answer my own question, maybe the billionaires in this country are ultimately agnostic about fascism and authoritarianism vs whatever passes for a democratic republic in this country. They can control government with their dollars either way. What would make life ten times harder for them is if our politics got to the point that we actually started throwing presidents out of office on a regular basis for either legitimate or illegitimate reasons.  Was Obama a secret Muslim born in Kenya? Most definitely not. Is Trump a more or less witting and willing Russian asset with a history of criminal business practice? Probably. Most definitely. But if you are a billionaire what do you care most about? That the government is open for doing business with your business. Presidents come and go. Billionaires are forever.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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7.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Revillug @7    4 months ago

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Paula Bartholomew
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8  Paula Bartholomew    4 months ago

I am tired of false hopes.

 
 

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