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Military Officers Begin To Speak Out On Harm Done By Sen. Tuberville's Holds On Promotions | HuffPost Latest News

  
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"We're on the fringe of losing a generation of champions," Air Force Gen. Mark Kelly, the head Air Combat Command, told reporters this week at a defense conference in Maryland.

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WASHINGTON (AP) — In the months since a single senator froze military promotions over the Pentagon's abortion policy, the uniformed officers affected have been largely silent, wary of stepping into a political fray. But as the ramifications of Alabama Republican Sen. Tommy Tuberville's freeze have grown, more of them are speaking out.

This week, some of the military's most senior leaders took the issue head on and voiced their concerns. They said the damage the holds will do to the military will be felt for years, as young talented officers decide they've had enough and choose to get out.

"We're on the fringe of losing a generation of champions," Air Force Gen. Mark Kelly, the head Air Combat Command, told reporters this week at a defense conference in Maryland. Kelly said he's talking to his junior officers, many with families, and they are "people who will take a bullet for the nation, the Constitution." But when it comes to dragging their family through this, "there's a red line."

One of the unusual things about Tuberville's holds is he's punishing uniformed personnel who had nothing to do with creating the administration policy he's against.

Uniformed military leaders typically avoid commenting on political decisions, not only because they don't want to antagonize lawmakers who can block their future military promotions, but also because they don't want to be seen as challenging civilian control of the military, a core tenet of U.S. government.

But now even the Pentagon's soon-to-be highest military leader is speaking out. Navy Adm. Christopher Grady, who currently serves as the military's No. 2 officer as Joint Chiefs vice chairman, will simultaneously have to fill in as chairman starting Oct. 1 with the retirement of Gen. Mark Milley if his replacement, Air Force Gen. C.Q. Brown, can't get confirmed in the next two weeks. Brown is also subject to Tuberville's hold.

"We need C.Q. Brown to be confirmed as the next chairman of the Joint Chiefs," Grady said Wednesday at the Air and Space Forces Association conference.

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For younger officers who are stuck in limbo by the holds, "the fact that folks can't plan for their moves or get their kids in school" is what is hurting them, Grady said. "There is a cumulative cost to this and we need to be very attuned to that."

In the last few years, there's been a slew of political orders that have had a direct impact on the military. There was former President Donald Trump's order that transgender personnel could not serve, and then the restoration of that service under the Biden administration, the mandate for COVID-19 vaccines and now the response to new state laws restricting access to abortion.

"Some of the orders that are given by civilians to the military, that the military then has to carry out, can make the military seem political," said Mark Harkins, a senior fellow at the Government Affairs Institute at Georgetown University. "If whatever the civilian control has asked them to do, if that order, that rule that they're following is against what you believe, then you're going to say they're political."

Tuberville announced the holds late last year after the Supreme Court ruled in Dobbs that abortion limits should be left to the states, and the Biden administration's civilian Pentagon head, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, responded by instituting a policy that Tuberville says violates federal law.

Under the policy, service members, who often do not get a say in where they are assigned, are reimbursed for travel costs incurred for seeking an abortion or other reproductive care if they are serving in a state that has outlawed those services.

Tuberville says the policy violates a federal law that says Defense Department funds may not be used for abortions, except in cases of rape, incest or where the life of the mother is threatened.

So in March, Tuberville exercised a privilege that allows any single senator to place a hold on a nomination, except he put a blanket hold on all military general officer nominations and said he would not lift it until the policy is rescinded.

Putting the hold on service members rather than on civilian nominees has a larger impact because civilian posts often go unfilled for months and a career civilian fills in, said Larry Korb, a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress.

It's not the first time general officer promotions have been frozen by a single senator. In July 2020, Democratic Sen. Tammy Duckworth of Illinois put a blanket hold on military promotions in response to reports that Trump was interfering with the promotion of Army Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, who was a witness in the former president's impeachment inquiry. Duckworth dropped the hold two weeks later after learning Vindman had been selected for promotion. Vindman, however, retired, citing a "campaign of bullying, intimidation and retaliation" after multiple delays to his promotion convinced him there was not a viable future for him in the military.

Six months into Tuberville's hold, 315 military officers are now affected, and the impact cuts deeper in some services. In the small and still growing U.S. Space Force, at least eight general officers' nominations are on hold — but that's one third of all of its 25 senior officers. In the Marine Corps, at least 18 general officers among the Corps cadre of 88 can't move to their new commands, or are being stretched too thin by having to cover the duties of their current job while also being responsible for the vacancy they cannot officially fill.

"It's disruptive," said Gen. Chance Saltzman, chief of Space Force operations. "The people that we want in the jobs, that we know they're going to be value-added in, we're not in a position to put them there."

However the head of Army forces in the Pacific, Gen. Charles Flynn, told reporters this week the holds were not affecting his operations. "I don't see any practical challenges that it's creating in the region," Flynn said, according to a transcript provided by the Army.

Kori Schake, the director of foreign and defense policy studies at the American Enterprise Institute, said while military officers are concerned about the holds and their use as a "political cudgel," it is inappropriate for them to speak out.

"It's not just the president who provides civilian control of the military; constitutionally, Congress also serves that function. We wouldn't want our military criticizing the president's partisan political acts, so we shouldn't want them doing it about Congress, either," Schake said.

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On Thursday, Tuberville watched as another officer, Adm. Lisa Franchetti, who would become the first female chief of naval operations, testified about the impact of the holds during her confirmation hearing at the Senate Armed Services Committee.

Franchetti said if the holds are lifted, it will take three to four months to get the three-star general officers in place, but it will take years to recover from the impact the promotion delays are having on lower-level officers.

That's because as each officer is promoted, it creates an opportunity for a more junior officer to rise. The military is capped at the numbers of personnel it can have at each rank, so keeping a colonel from being promoted to a general means there are younger lieutenant colonels who can't get promoted to colonel. That affects pay, retirement, lifestyle and future assignments — and in some fields where the private sector will pay more, it becomes harder to convince those highly trained young leaders to stay.

And at one point when asked why she hadn't been briefed on a specific submarine funding study, Franchetti noted the job strains the holds are creating, since she is doing the job both of vice chief of naval operations and acting chief of the service.

"I think it's just my own bandwidth capacity right now," she said.

Tuberville made no mention of the vote delays, instead saying he looked forward to Franchetti's service as chief. And he told her to keep the military out of politics and "leave it to us politicians."

Kelly, a career fighter pilot whose retirement has deferred because of the holds, had sharp words about their impact.

"The situation is not instilling confidence in our allies, and it is instilling confidence in our adversaries," Kelly said. In the nation's capital, "that popping sound you hear is not stray gunfire. It's champagne corks in the Chinese Embassy bouncing off the walls."

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Lita C. Baldor contributed from Washington.

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Trout Giggles
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1  seeder  Trout Giggles    8 months ago
It's not the first time general officer promotions have been frozen by a single senator. In July 2020, Democratic Sen. Tammy Duckworth of Illinois put a blanket hold on military promotions in response to reports that Trump was interfering with the promotion of Army Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, who was a witness in the former president's impeachment inquiry. Duckworth dropped the hold two weeks later after learning Vindman had been selected for promotion. Vindman, however, retired, citing a "campaign of bullying, intimidation and retaliation" after multiple delays to his promotion convinced him there was not a viable future for him in the military.

I wanted to get that out there before the you know what's its show up to point this out.

Tammy Duckworth was wrong for what she did. Vindman's retirement may or may not have been related to Duckworth's actions, but the military lost a good man.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @1    8 months ago

I'd have the pentagon announce the closure of the 5 military bases in alabama and begin moving their service members to other bases immediately. maga trash like retribution, so give them a big f'n plate of it.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  devangelical @1.1    8 months ago

What would that cost and how long would it take?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  devangelical @1.1    8 months ago

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Trout Giggles
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1.1.3  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @1.1    8 months ago

How about 2 in Alabama and all the rest that are left in Texas?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1.4  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.1.3    8 months ago

I'd rather see a friendly secret competition among the elite members of all service branches for the surgical removal of ranking supporters of seditious unamerican scum. more or less the opposite of the current maga agenda.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Trout Giggles @1    8 months ago
but the military lost a good man.

jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif Vindman a "good man".  You do realize he altered official documents right?

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.3  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @1    8 months ago

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2  Vic Eldred    8 months ago

At any time, they want, the Senate can vote for each of these promotions separately.  Senate leader Schumer does not want democrats voting for certain individuals chosen for promotion. He is afraid to expose them to voting on some of these people.

 
 
 
George
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3  George    8 months ago

From CNN,

 

It would take the Senate approximately 700 hours of floor time to individually process and vote on hundreds of military officers whose promotions   are being blocked   by Alabama Republican   Sen. Tommy Tuberville , the Congressional Research Service concluded in a memo released on Tuesday.

The number of pending nominations has only increased since the memo was written in late August, from 273 to  over 300   today.

Tuberville's hold on military promotions would take hundreds of hours to process individually, memo says | CNN Politics

So the only thing holding this up is Schumer, and seriously, 700 hours? how fucking lazy are these fuckers? i realize it may take an hour to explain to Feinstein and Fetterman where they are and what button to push, but over 2 hours a person to hold a vote? time to get some senators who aren't doddering old fools.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4  Sean Treacy    8 months ago

Probably should stop prioritizing using taxpayer funds to pay for abortion over national security then.

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.1  devangelical  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    8 months ago

probably should start painting the front doors of mackerel snapping anti-choice madrasas with organic red paint.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  devangelical @4.1    8 months ago

Challenge yourself to  go a day without being a bigot or advocating for domestic terrorism or even  killing people for disagreeing with you?  you might actually not be so miserable. 

We’ll reset the counter to zero and hope tomorrows better I guess. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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4.1.8  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.1    8 months ago

The rest of this comment was removed for TOS violations and meta.

 
 
 
Kavika
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5  Kavika     8 months ago

So now the military has become part of the political wars between parties, good job Tuberville. /s

 
 
 
devangelical
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5.1  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @5    8 months ago

he's mad because his klan state won't be getting space force command.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.1.1  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @5.1    8 months ago

Where is that going? Colorado? That would make the best sense especially if they expanded Pete Field

 
 
 
Kavika
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5.1.2  Kavika   replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.1    8 months ago

Yes, it's going to be in Colorado.

 
 
 
devangelical
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5.1.3  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.1.1    8 months ago

yup, and it's staying here. the air is thinner and we're a mile closer to space.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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5.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Kavika @5    8 months ago

 now the military has become part of the political wars between parties, good job Tuberville. /s

Biden started it by changing the policy without congressional approval. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.3  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Kavika @5    8 months ago

And the military does not like to be a political football. Just give them their money, their promotions and let them do their jobs. Oh...and stop forcing useless aircraft, tanks, and ships on them

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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5.3.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.3    8 months ago

But … but … what about the innocent zygotes?!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5.3.2  seeder  Trout Giggles  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @5.3.1    8 months ago

I have no patience for the pre-born crowd

 
 
 
cjcold
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6  cjcold    8 months ago

Interesting how far right-wing fascists are eating their own.

They can't even get along with themselves, much less the other.

Didn't America once fight and win a war against fascism?

How is it that fascism is now an internal thingy?

Seems the GOP is now an enemy of America and democracy.

Just like Putin planned it.

 
 
 
devangelical
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6.1  devangelical  replied to  cjcold @6    8 months ago

we didn't kill all the oligarchs and aristocrats when we had the chance and look what happened...

we didn't kill all the white supremacist confederates when we had the chance and look what happened...

we didn't kill all of the nazis when we had the chance and look what happened...

 
 
 
George
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6.1.1  George  replied to  devangelical @6.1    8 months ago

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Tacos!
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7  Tacos!    8 months ago
So in March, Tuberville exercised a privilege that allows any single senator to place a hold on a nomination

That sounds like a really stupid privilege. Even dumber than the filibuster, which is already ridiculous. The idea that a single person in the legislature can indefinitely hold up the business of the country is kind of insane.

 
 
 
George
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7.1  George  replied to  Tacos! @7    8 months ago

At any time Schumer can hold votes on promotions. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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7.1.1  Kavika   replied to  George @7.1    8 months ago

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer on Wednesday set votes to circumvent a monthslong blockade on military promotions by Alabama Republican Sen. Tommy Tuberville.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/schumer-sets-votes-circumvent-tuberville-blockade-key-military/story?id=103349978#:~:text=Senate%20Majority%20Leader%20Chuck%20Schumer,Alabama%20Republican%20Sen.%20Tommy%20Tuberville.

 
 
 
George
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7.1.2  George  replied to  Kavika @7.1.1    8 months ago

That is exactly what I said. Schumer could advance the promotions at any time. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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7.1.3  Tacos!  replied to  George @7.1.2    8 months ago

He shouldn’t have to go to so much trouble over it.

 
 
 
George
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7.1.4  George  replied to  Tacos! @7.1.3    8 months ago

Boo hoo, the piece of crap senate will have to do work, fuck Schumer for letting this go for months.

 
 
 
Drakkonis
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8  Drakkonis    8 months ago
Tuberville says the policy violates a federal law that says Defense Department funds may not be used for abortions, except in cases of rape, incest or where the life of the mother is threatened.

Since the article doesn't contradict what Tuberville claims federal law says, I'm not sure what the problem is. If Tuberville is wrong wouldn't the writer of the article do one of the fundamental parts of their job and fact check it? If the Defense Department is breaking the law, all it need do is stop breaking the law and, presto, promotions move forward. 

Oh, and I don't care what his stance on abortion is. If the DoD is ignoring laws, that's a bad thing, don't you think? It doesn't matter where the orders come from. The DoD has a duty to disregard illegal orders. 

 
 

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