There's a very simple reason why Trump will never release the Epstein files - Alternet.org

I'm sure the first lady has a lot of relevant info as well, subpoena her ... 

jeff thought melania's hands were soooo soft ...

Trump was and probably is sexually attracted to teenage females (as many men are).  Normal men manage to not act on those desires and thus stay out of trouble. 

Trump is in trouble because he had a long friendship with someone who was abusing young teenage girls and Trump was on the fence about whether he approved of it or not. 

When you look at all the evidence it is likely Trump knew what was going on with Epstein but couldnt decide whether he wanted to take part or blow the whistle. 

Of course it should destroy him politically, but we are way past that. 

• We know   without a shadow of a doubt that the man is a grotesque racist.
• We know   without a shadow of a doubt he is a convicted felon, who assaults women.
• We know   without a shadow of a doubt he cheats on his taxes even more than he has cheated on all his wives.
• We know   without a shadow of a doubt he is a nuclear-powered liar, who is simply incapable of telling the truth, and lied 30,573 times the first time he tried to sink this country.
• We know   without a shadow of a doubt he invited Russia to help him win the 2016 election, and then refused to call them on it in Helsinki.
• We know   without a shadow of a doubt he is using the White House as his own personal ATM, and by many estimates has already pocketed billions of our dollars in crypto and airplanes, while taking endless vacations to his golf properties all over the world on our dime.
• We know   without a shadow of a doubt he stalked girls in the dressing rooms of Miss Teen USA beauty competitions, because "(He's) seen it all before, and (he's) the owner of the pageant. And therefore (he's) inspecting it."

Barry Goldwater, the 1964 Republican nominee for President, was known as Mr. Conservative.

Ronald Reagan gave a key address in 1964 announcing he was no longer a Democrat and extolling the virtues of Goldwater as a conservative.

In 1981 Senator Goldwater warned the Senate and his own party that the Religious Right was after power, not liberty. He said the traditional conservative view was “a deep, abiding respect for the Constitution… [and] the freedom that document protects.” But something was now happening: “The specter of single issue religious groups is growing over our land.”

"One of the great strengths of our political system always has been our tendency to keep religious issues in the background. By maintaining the separation of church and state the United States has avoided the intolerance which has so divided the rest of the world with religious wars. Throughout our 200-plus years, public policy debate has focused on political and economic issues, on which there can be compromise.

…in a well-constructed representative government like ours, Madison said, one of our greatest strengths is our ability to “break and control the violence of faction.”

What he said is that the aim of the framers of the Constitution was to allow freedom of religion and freedom of speech for everyone, not just those who follow one religious faction.

… Our political process involves a constant give and take, a continuous series of trade-offs. From this system of compromise, we get legislation that reflects input from many sectors of our society and addresses many needs and interests. Obviously, not everyone can be pleased, but at least all sides are considered.

However, on religious issues there can be little or no compromise. There is no position on which people are so immovable as their religious beliefs. There is no more powerful ally one can claim in a debate than Jesus Christ. Or God, or Allah, or whatever one calls his supreme being.

But, like any powerful weapon, the use of God’s name on one’s behalf should be used sparingly.

The religious factions that are growing throughout our land are not using their religious clout with wisdom. They are trying to force government leaders into following their positions 100 percent.

In the past couple years. I have seen many news items that referred to the moral majority, pro-life and other religious groups as “the new right,” and the “new conservatism.” Well. I have spent quite a number of years carrying the flag of the “old conservatism.” And I can say with conviction that the religious issues of these groups have little or nothing to do with conservative or liberal politics.

The uncompromising position of these groups is a divisive element that could tear apart the very spirit of our representative system, if they gain sufficient strength." - Barry Goldwater

Goldwater’s Warning to GOP Came True | by James Peron | The Radical Center | Medium

I'm not a fan of Barry Goldwater, he voted against the civil rights act even though he claimed it was just a States rights issue. But he certainly had the Republican party and the growing element of self-righteous religious bigots within the party and predicted quite accurately what has now transpired.

“ Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them. ” ―  Barry Goldwater

I'm not a fan of Barry Goldwater, he voted against the civil rights act even though he claimed it was just a States rights issue.

It's why I once considered myself "a Goldwater Republican without the racism."

“ Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them. ” ―  Barry Goldwater

Thank you for pointing out how Barry Goldwater's prediction came true while Reagans turned out the be pure projection.

now that's just utter bullshit...uttered by a senile old man

...uttered by a senile old man

while his wife made all their decisions based on advice from her astrologer...

“Nancy Reagan relied on Joan Quigley, she would call her sometimes eight times a day for almost everything down to unbelievable details including the takeoff and landing times for Air Force One,” according to Nancy Reagan biographer Kitty Kelley Nancy Reagan tried to cover up White House’s use of clairvoyant, documentary claims | The Independent

Apparently Mrs Reagan was soft in the head, too

there's plenty of corroborating evidence available that she was known as the BJ queen of hollywood ...

Why did anybody think it would be any different this time around?

Because a) they're crazy or b) they didn't pay attention

or because they're ignorant buffoons who like his racist actions and the fact he gives them someone other than themselves for their failings in life. He pits American against American while he and the 1% fleece US ALL, cause their minds remain small

Lots of inuendo about what Trump has done and lots of fantasy about why they won't release the Epstein files. A lot of assumptions going around. The prevailing myth is that Trump must be heavily involved and named in the files for the administration to be blocking the release.

During her nine hours speaking with Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche last month, Ghislaine Maxwell said nothing  during the interview  that would be harmful to President Donald Trump, telling Blanche that Trump had never done anything in her presence that would have caused concern, according to sources familiar with what Maxwell said. Ghislaine Maxwell told DOJ Trump never did anything concerning around her: Sources - ABC News

Maybe the simple truth is there's nothing in the unreleased files to implicate much less convict anybody of criminal actions. Just because a name is in those files doesn't mean they were involved in anything, after all Bill Clinton is named in the files that have been released and there's no evidence he did anything illegal in relation to Epstein. Because of the divided nature of our country, any new names that would show up in newly released files would be tarred with a very broad brush by the "other" side, which could badly damage that persons reputation and future without actually being guilty of any crime or "bad" action.

The only reason IMO this is such a big deal is partisan politics. Trump made a big deal in campaign promises to release the Epstein files, using it to insinuate a nefarious relationship between Democrats and Epstein. Now in office and with the DOJ marking the case closed, Democrats are now making hay with the accusations. 

If there were not multiple pictures of Trump with his 14 or 15 year old daughter sitting on his lap, and if he had not told Howard Stern that he liked to peep into teenage girls dressing rooms at his beauty pageant, and if he had not been a judge of a model contest where 14-18 year old girls paraded in front of the judges wearing skin tight bathing suits , if none of that was true he would probably be in the clear now. At least as far as this situation goes.  But all those things are true. 

If there were not multiple pictures of Trump with his 14 or 15 year old daughter sitting on his lap, and if he had not told Howard Stern that he liked to peep into teenage girls dressing rooms at his beauty pageant, and if he had not been a judge of a model contest where 14-18 year old girls paraded in front of the judges wearing skin tight bathing suits , if none of that was true he would probably be in the clear now. At least as far as this situation goes.  But all those things are true. 

First of all, I made no whataboutism. Second all three things I mentioned exist in photos, or video, or in Trumps own statements.  Third, why should it be confined to criminality ? 

I made no whataboutism

Yes you did as your posting has nothing to do with my posting or even the seed which is the release of the Epstein files. I already said that we know the things you posted are well known, but nothing has come of it. The criminality issue comes in relation to the very first sentence of my posting where the DOJ released a memo stating that there was nothing in the files they have that indicate criminality on anybody. So just like what you posted, it's more to be partisan bashing than anything else. Shit, you want Trump removed from office? Then find a criminal issue that can be used to do so. The constant partisan bashing does nothing to further your cause. 

Third, why should it be confined to criminality ? 

That’s not a real standard, anyway. It’s the usual shifting of goalposts. As soon as you tie his behavior to a criminal statute, then the standard changes. It’s malicious prosecution, or politically motivated, or the wrong statute, or he may have committed some other crime, but the statute of limitations has run out on that one, or the judge hates him, or the jury is biased, or you should just ignore it because…MAGA!….and on and on and on. There’s always a new excuse.

That’s not a real standard, anyway. It’s the usual shifting of goalposts.

It is pretty sad to watch. At one point, each party was worried about their candidate having some tiny skeleton hidden in their closet like having had an affair which would make them unelectable since most voters had standards of behavior and ethics they expected from their elected officials. Now they downplay and dismiss 34 felony convictions, actual tape recordings of candidates admitting to being sexual predators, open secrets about affairs with multiple porn stars, evidence of at least a friendly relationship with a convicted pedophile, and his worshipers are like "Well at least he's not a Democrat!! (anymore...)

The truth is, the rightwing in this country have convinced themselves that progressives, liberals, Democrats and anyone else who dares to challenge rightwing religious conservative rule in this country, are worse than however we see Donald Trump. This is why they will always pick Trump over anything they view as counter to their chosen religious conservative ideology no matter what he does. If they had any shame this would never have gotten so far, but the Trump base who have been feeling shamed since the civil rights movement knocked them down a peg and forced them to integrate, simply have no shame left.

He couldn't have won if he had run as a Democrat. He knew who the amoral, immoral, political party was

He knew who the amoral, immoral, political party was

Yes, when I think of morals, Trump always comes to mind as the expert, as in avoiding them.

He couldn't have won if he had run as a Democrat. He knew who the amoral, immoral, political party was

If he had run as a Democrat all his flaws would have mattered, and Republicans would have been screaming about how unbelievable it was that Democrats would run such an utter disaster of a candidate. But since he went to them and offered to overturn Roe v Wade for them in exchange for their undying loyalty no matter what he does, rational patriotic Americans have to suffer through another four years of the unhinged man baby running things.

and Republicans would have been screaming about how unbelievable it was that Democrats would run such an utter disaster of a candidate. But since he went to them and offered

The hippo critters who screamed about Obamas' suit color, can see nothing to see here for the few thousandth time, as there is not N E THING REMOTELY CLOSE to Trump, and his behavior as potUS that is comparable.

 The party of family values excuses the 30,000 plus first term LIAR, 34 times convicted felon, accused of sexual assault by twenty plus women, found guilty of sexual assault in civil case, admitted document stealing pussy grabbin friend to pedophiles

who just happen to try and cease the peaceful transfer of power by instigating and riling up his sucker base as he tried to punch A ll of US, in the face of reason that so many can not imagine,  due to reflection denied, as was an election where died, was a part of our country, tis of thee, also known as he, the violater of so much, as people remain out of touch, by a guy who braggs about Grabbin them buy the pussy galore, cause it is a sad day when elected was a sexually assaulting underage pageant perv with the nerve to pal around with pedophiles and use such a cause to get himself elected, and his base has no boner to pick with him, and not just because he couldn't erect it, more like their minds like his, totally infected, by one who should of and would have been so rejected, if he ran as a Dem O crat, all while maga thinks he can do know wrong, and it's just a bromance spat between buds who stole underage manipulated girls from each other, 

cause perhaps they didn't get enough love,

buy someones poor mother again, cause when oh when will he go too far for that party so fckn bazaar,

cause we are so far past anywhere I thought achievable,

as never knew sheep could be so deceivable...

The truth is, the rightwing in this country have convinced themselves that progressives, liberals, Democrats and anyone else who dares to challenge rightwing religious conservative rule in this country, are worse than however we see Donald Trump.

This is a good point. We have Trump actually bragging about assaulting women, actually being held liable for it, actually convicted of crimes, actually encouraging people to use violence to overturn an election, and actually engaging in corruption and bribery while in office.

And so to overlook it, everyone on the Left is now said to be a predator of children. They're eating dogs and cats. They're inviting criminals into the country. Whatever they can imagine that's arguably worse than the real things Trump has done.

And so to overlook it, everyone on the Left is now said to be a predator of children.

Which is completely absurd. I'm sure there are some people with leftist politics that are predators of children. However, we're not saying that everyone on the right is a pedophile. The only one we have consistently talked about it trmp and that's because of his own words. His words don't make every one on the left guilty

you can't say leftist on this seed. oh wait, I forgot, red box rules don't mean anything anymore ...

oops

hey wait a minute! Isn't this MY group?

that's the only reason your comment is still there. check with the knuckle draggers if you have any doubts ...

religious conservatives have been shielding pedophiles for over 2 millennium.

religious conservatives have been shielding pedophiles for over 2 millennium.

Care to actually reply to my posting? If you're trying to imply I'm a religious conservate you are so far off the mark you're not even in the same solar system.

I did. I'm not, and I don't care.

personally, I do enjoy watching trump supporters humiliate themselves trying to defend trump's activities, especially with epstein. from the beginning of that relationship to the current bungling by trump's pathetic administration, in dealing with a story that was once in it's grave. I think it's hilarious that the present day pedophile scandal was instigated by trump's own maga/Q core base. a pedophile president would be quite the ideological conundrum for religious conservatives, probably not for fundamentalists or young earthers though ...

The prevailing myth is that Trump must be heavily involved and named in the files for the administration to be blocking the release.

I don't believe it to be a myth, as he by his OWN ADMISSIONS hung out with the pedophile who it is said enjoys beautiful women like him, some on the younger side, or something along those words, are Trumps own words!

Yes, a man accused of sexual assault by twenty plus women, who paid off a porn star and a playboy bunny to keep quiet about their affairs for $135,000.00 per pop, was convicted civilly by a jury of "Sexual Assault" /(RAPE) of one he is ordered to pay $85,000,000.00 MILLION dollars to all why claiming he GRABS WOMEN BUY THE PUSSY, and has bragged of walking through Teenage dressing rooms at beauty pageants because he was in charge of them definitely doesn't sound like one who would be involved with Epstein type crimes, does it ?????

What other reason can you come up with as to him not releasing the documents, saying he hopes Maxine was well after being convicted of heinous crimes against CHILDREN????

Who LIES about being informed HE IS IN ON THE LISTS , says after his second in DOJ command that was his personal Lawyer prior, meets with Maxine for TWO DAYS, hasn't 

informed him of the results of his meeting!!! He claims to not know about the "common" occurrence of CONVICTED SEX OFFENDER TRAFFICKER being transferred to a more comfortable extremely cushy new prison ( It's NOT COMMON, as it NEVER HAPPENS) but Trump found out about it from the news, yea, ok , that sounds feasible no?????????????

WTF is wrong with so many people that they REFUSE TO FACE THE TRUTH ABOUT WHAT A TOTAL SCUMBAG TRUMP IS< WAS< AND WILL ALWYS BE ???????????????

Its fckn A ridiculous

Maybe the simple truth is there's nothing in the unreleased files to implicate much less convict anybody of criminal actions.

For me this point it's less about anything convictable and more about Trump, Bondi and Bongino had ran on promises to make public all the information. Now that they are in the positions they once tried to tear down they themselves are obfuscating. Bondi told Fox News in Feb she had the Epstein Client List on her desk and now she trying to say their is no list. 

the DOJ has blown by every exit ramp they had, and it's evident the DOJ's activities are being directed by trump.