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This morning Trump purred from the Oval that “many people” are asking for a dictator

  
Via:  John Russell  •  last year  •  85 comments


This morning Trump purred from the Oval that “many people” are asking for a dictator
 

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This morning Trump purred from the Oval that “many people” are asking for a dictator. (Picture it: trembling hands, misty eyes—“Please sir, enslave us harder.”)

Locke had the answer three centuries ago: once power is bent for private gain, law dies and tyranny begins. And tyranny, once rooted, isn’t politics—it’s WAR ON THE PEOPLE themselves.

So turn off the streaming. Put down the devices—except to record your government’s lawlessness. Get off your couches, out of your mum’s basements, out of your comfort zones. The other day I asked: have we, the fans, forgotten we’re actually the players? Because, I can assure you: this game doesn’t get won from the bleachers. But what do I know? I’m just a Yia Yia living on the most remote island chain on earth (that would be Hawaii – our 50th state), who’s finally lived long enough, raised 8 children, and read enough history to say this much:

Wake the fuck up, America—this is history repeating, and it's not subtle.” You don’t want to hear me muttering, “mark my words.” Just ask my kids and grandkids, nothing really good happens after that.


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    last year

Today , in an oval office ramble, Trump said many people are asking for a dictator.

But he's not. 

No questions from the White House press corps. 

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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1.1  afrayedknot  replied to  JohnRussell @1    last year

Simply obscene.

The words are bad enough, but the silence is frightening in its subjugation and the justification to follow is dangerous in its implication. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  afrayedknot @1.1    last year

On the face of it it seems hard to explain. I think our media loves money more than our country. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2  Right Down the Center    last year

If you have to change the comment to fit a narrative you have already lost.

The actual quote (according to Newsweek) was 

"A lot of people are saying, 'Maybe we like a dictator.'"

"I'm not a dictator. I'm a man with great common sense,"

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Right Down the Center @2    last year

what is the difference between many and a lot ? 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    last year

If you are going to do a story about what Trump said why not,  you know,...............write what Trump actually said?

What is the difference between “many people” are asking for a dictator." and 'Maybe we like a dictator.'

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.1    last year

I dont think anyone has misrepresented what he said. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.3  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.1    last year

Why is the word dictator coming out of his mouth, along with “A lot of people are saying, ‘Maybe we would like a dictator.’" ? 

Why ?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.4  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.2    last year

Of course not.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.5  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.3    last year

Good question.  Maybe listening to the whole thing would give some context instead of going with what someone that can't even get the whole quote right would be a good idea.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.6  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.5    last year

You are complaining that someone said he said "many" instead of "a lot". You cant defend what he said so you complain about two words that mean the same thing.

Why is he saying that ANYONE says they would like a dictator? 

 
 
 
afrayedknot
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2.1.7  afrayedknot  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.6    last year

An all too common deflection these daze…parsing words in any effort to avoid even acknowledging the actual concern. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.1.8  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  afrayedknot @2.1.7    last year
An all too common deflection these daze…parsing words in any effort to avoid dealing with the actual problem. 

I find it interesting that the actual words spoken by Trump are worse in their implication than what even John was inferring. It's not "many people” are asking for a dictator", it is as RDTC says "A lot of people are saying, 'Maybe we like a dictator.'"

That, to me, is Trump saying that he's hearing from "a lot of people", no doubt his own, that "Maybe we like a dictator" which would be in response to those on the left calling Trump a dictator. It's essentially admitting that his own supporters think of Trump and his actions as those of a dictator. That's why Trump then has to try and ride the fence by claiming he's not what a lot of them like by saying "I'm not a dictator."

So basically, he gives us a view into the heart of the MAGAverse where his own base isn't rejecting the premise that Trump is acting like a dictator, they're saying they like it. His acting like a dictator isn't a bug, it's a feature and his base have no problem with it because their loyalties more align with white nationalist Christo-fascism than they do with a constitutional Republic made up of all peoples, cultures and faiths.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.9  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.6    last year
You are complaining that someone said he said "many" instead of "a lot". You cant defend what he said so you complain about two words that mean the same thing.

No, lets try again.  In 2.1.1 I responded to that by saying: What is the difference between “many people” are asking for a dictator." and 'Maybe we like a dictator.' And you totally ignored it sticking to your many instead of alot schtick.

Why is he saying that ANYONE says they would like a dictator? 

Again in 2.1.5 I stated Maybe listening to the whole thing would give some context instead of going with what someone that can't even get the whole quote right would be a good idea.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.10  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.9    last year

last chance - you admit that trump said a lot of people say they might like a dictator

"A lot of people are saying, 'Maybe we like a dictator.'"

WHY would he say that? That is the question to you. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.11  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.10    last year

Simple.  He talks shit.  You didn't know that?

 
 
 
MrFrost
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2.1.12  MrFrost  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.11    last year

Simple.  He talks shit.  You didn't know that?

Is that the same excuse when you bring up Obama?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.13  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.2    last year
I dont think anyone has misrepresented what he said. 

You did.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.14  Right Down the Center  replied to  MrFrost @2.1.12    last year

Is obama a politician? 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.15  Trout Giggles  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.11    last year

Is this one of these times we don't take him seriously or literally? I really do need a score card to keep up

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.16  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1.15    last year

They say "he talks shit" as if we are supposed to be impressed. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.17  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.16    last year

He talks shit to trigger the left.  Judging by the reactions you all give him....it's working.  And it's been pretty entertaining to say the least.

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.1.18  bugsy  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.14    last year
Is obama a politician? 

To most leftists he is a god.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.19  Right Down the Center  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1.15    last year

To be safe and avoid trump angst it might be safe going with his deeds and not his words

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.20  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.16    last year

Now you are just making stuff up.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.21  Right Down the Center  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.17    last year

Better than anything on tv

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.1.22  Right Down the Center  replied to  bugsy @2.1.18    last year

In obama they trust

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.23  Trout Giggles  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.19    last year

Well. His deeds are scarier than his words

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.24  Trout Giggles  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.21    last year

Oh, we all know that he wants to own the libs but he's gonna have to get up earlier and try harder. Better men than him have tried to own me. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.25  Trout Giggles  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.22    last year

He's not a god. That is just some crazy ass shit made up in the alternate reality world

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.26  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.17    last year

I react negatively to him "talking shit" because I'm not an idiot.   I dont need the president to be an entertainer. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.27  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.26    last year
I react negatively to him "talking shit" because...

It triggers you.

I dont need the president to be an entertainer. 

Neither do I.  But then again, I never said HE was entertaining.  

 
 
 
Krishna
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2.1.28  Krishna  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    last year
what is the difference between many and a lot ? 

Both somewhat similar, but "a lot" is more than "many".

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.2  Ozzwald  replied to  Right Down the Center @2    last year
"I'm not a dictator. I'm a man with great common sense,"

dunning-kruger.jpg

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.2.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Ozzwald @2.2    last year

You see alot of people thinking they are much smarter than they actually are.  They are often the ones trying to prove to anyone that will listen how smart they are.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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2.2.2  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.2.1    last year
anyone that will listen how smart they are.

Do you think Trump likes smart people ?

Cause He loves the Uneducated for sure !

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.2.3  Right Down the Center  replied to  Igknorantzruls @2.2.2    last year

Chances are he likes anyone that votes for him. You know, like any politician 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.2.4  Ozzwald  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.2.1    last year
You see alot of people thinking they are much smarter than they actually are. 

Not the same thing.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.2.5  Right Down the Center  replied to  Ozzwald @2.2.4    last year

Didn't say it was

 
 
 
Krishna
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2.2.6  Krishna  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.2.1    last year
You see alot of people thinking they are much smarter than they actually are.

In my experience, that is especially true on social media sites!

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.2.7  Ozzwald  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.2.5    last year
Didn't say it was

So you are purposely trying to distract from the point.  Makes sense.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.2.8  Right Down the Center  replied to  Ozzwald @2.2.7    last year

Try again

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.2.9  Right Down the Center  replied to  Krishna @2.2.6    last year

Yep.  There are an unbelievable number of Lawyers and Doctors on the internet.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.2.10  Ozzwald  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.2.8    last year
Try again

So you are again failing to distract from the point.

Is that better?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.2.11  Right Down the Center  replied to  Ozzwald @2.2.10    last year

No

 
 
 
MrFrost
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2.3  MrFrost  replied to  Right Down the Center @2    last year
If you have to change the comment to fit a narrative you have already lost.

Tell it to trump, he is the master of doing exactly that. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2.3.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  MrFrost @2.3    last year

I did but he won't listen to me

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3  seeder  JohnRussell    last year

This is Trumps hand today as he apparently gave up on covering it with yellow makeup

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He's be better off saying he got it caught in a filing cabinet then trying to pretend the large bruise isnt there. 

And you dont get that from shaking hands , unless you have a preexisting condition. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.1  devangelical  replied to  JohnRussell @3    last year

maybe there was some novichok on putin's thumbnail when he shook POS/POTUS's hand in alaska ...

 
 
 
fineline
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3.1.1  fineline  replied to  devangelical @3.1    last year

 We're not that fortunate. This will not end well for many of us. Watch for Drumph moves on the banking system, that will signal the begining of full forced resistence!

 
 
 
Krishna
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3.2  Krishna  replied to  JohnRussell @3    last year
unless you have a preexisting condition.

Actually, IMO, Trump has several pre-existing conditions. 

 
 
 
freepress
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4  freepress    last year

He also announced he is allowing 600,000 students from China into the country to study here, completely blowing up the immigrant issue. 

What's ICE going to do? 

I think he isn't just very, very ill from the looks of him, but he has wandered down the path of no return on his cognitive behavior. 

It's not just the chaos, or his deliberate revenge tactics, it's self destruct mania with America being his primary target.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  freepress @4    last year

There's a funny line from the Woody Allen movie Bananas where the Latin America dictator, standing on the steps of the presidential palace making proclamations says   " From today forward any citizen of the country who is under 16 years of age is now 16 years of age ".

This is what Trump is becoming, mad.  Not the angry kind of mad, the other kind. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  freepress @4    last year

He really does hate America

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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4.2.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.2    last year
He really does hate America

He just hates anything and everything that doesn't treat him like the center of the universe.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.2.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.2.1    last year
He just hates anything and everything that doesn't treat him like the center of the universe.

And people actually love him for it.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  freepress @4    last year
What's ICE going to do?

If they are here LEGALLY, there is no reason for ICE to be involved.  

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.3.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.3    last year

tell that to the legals they have rounded up and put in holding cells

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.3.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.3.1    last year

Are you referring to those whose visa's were rescinded?  

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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4.3.3  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.3.2    last year
Are you referring to those whose visa's were rescinded?  

Nope.

US citizen arrested by ICE in Montebello shares story

U.S citizen detained by ICE says she was denied water for 24 hours

ICE deported 3 children who are U.S. citizens, their families’ lawyers say | PBS News

American citizens wrongly detained in Trump administration’s immigration crackdown | PBS News

‘We are not safe in America today:’ These American citizens say they were detained by ICE | CNN

Detention and deportation of American citizens in the second Trump administration - Wikipedia

If any of these were white rightwing conservative US citizens and this happened under the Biden administration Republicans would have been screaming to high heaven, but because they're almost all Hispanic US citizens rightwing conservatives won't give a fuck about their plight of being wrongfully detained. Why not? Because many white rightwing conservatives, if not most, don't consider Hispanic US citizens "real Americans" and think they should be treated as second class citizens and should basically kiss white people's feet for "allowing" them to be here in "their" country.

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.3.4  bugsy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.3.3    last year

Well, your little "gotcha" attempt failed. If you even watched the first 10 seconds of the first video link, you would know that the guy was arrested for obstruction, running towards federal officers and biting one of them. Not about suspicion of being an illegal.

Because of the first failure, there is no reason to watch/read the rest because more than likely, they will show similar results........or the "citizens" are unverified and the sources are unnamed.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.3.5  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  bugsy @4.3.4    last year

I take it you didnt watch the whole first video. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.3.6  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.3.3    last year

You're "gotcha is as much as a failure as Kamala Harris.  Did you even watch the videos or read the articles?

1st link - 1 arrested for obstruction ,

2nd link:  1 claiming she didn't have access to water?  jrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif

3rd link:  1 claiming US citizen children were deported?  The FAMILY that was here ILLEGALLY made the decision to take them.

Not even wasting my time with the rest.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.3.7  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.3.6    last year

It seems his lawyer has security camera footage showing he didnt run at anyone. 

The charges against him were DROPPED, certainly to try and avoid bad publicity for going after an American citizen. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.3.8  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.3.6    last year

If he bit a US law enforcement officer why on earth would the government drop the charges? 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.3.9  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @4.3.8    last year

Liberal shitbag judge.  Seen it those clowns drop charges for more serious crimes.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.3.10  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @4.3.7    last year

And you point would be what.  It's not what was claimed.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.3.11  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.3.9    last year

Your comment makes absolutely no sense. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.3.12  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @4.3.11    last year

It's in plain English...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.3.13  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.3.12    last year

thats the problem - its in plain english and still doesnt make any sense

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.3.14  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @4.3.13    last year

Not my problem.

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.3.15  Krishna  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.3    last year
If they are here LEGALLY, there is no reason for ICE to be involved.  

Correct.

There's absolutely no justification for what they're doing. 

(As its obvious that that will not stop them from doing it anyway).

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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4.3.16  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  bugsy @4.3.4    last year
there is no reason to watch/read the rest because more than likely

I get why you wouldn't want to watch anymore, you likely have as much problem eating crow as most people do.

The fact is, in the first link, the man was being detained because they believed he was undocumented and then made up the bullshit about him charging at ICE and biting them which of course was dropped because ICE apparently lied. Here's what the other side of the story looks like, and remember, this is from AN AMERICAN CITIZENS own mouth:

“He slammed me to the gate,” the man told KTLA’s Ellina Abovian. “He put my hands behind my back. I’m an American citizen. You do not do that to Americans.”

Nataly Degante, whose cousin, Javier Ramirez, 32, was arrested in the raid, said that while agents began handcuffing everyone, they reportedly never provided identification or information about why they were there.

“We see in the video that they don’t come with a warrant,” she said. “They don’t have any documentation in their hands.”

Degante said her cousin is a U.S. citizen and a single father of two young children. She described him as a hard worker with no criminal record.

Video of the raid shows some workers being moved to the ground as agents quickly handcuffed them. Ramirez is also seen on the video yelling to the agents that he’s a citizen.

“He’s telling them he is a U.S. citizen and he’s letting them know, ‘My passport is in my pocket,’” Degante said. Southern California father who is U.S. citizen, arrested during immigration raid, family says

Jeremy assumed these were visa revocations, he was wrong. You leaped in to defend him and then just made a fool of yourself. Perhaps you could try watching the rest because they are all very real and all very sad and are happening because of fucked in the head xenophobic bigots and the convicted felon they voted for.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.3.17  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Krishna @4.3.15    last year
There's absolutely no justification for what they're doing. 

There's plenty of justification.  

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.3.18  bugsy  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.3.6    last year
3rd link:  1 claiming US citizen children were deported?  The FAMILY that was here ILLEGALLY made the decision to take them.

This one was debunked months ago. No surprise that most on the left still believe it is true because the original source never corrected/deleted it.

Must be a shame being so gullible. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.3.19  bugsy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.3.16    last year
You leaped in to defend him and then just made a fool of yourself.

Looks like you are the one who is doing that and trying to cover your goof.

The fact remains that none of your links show that anyone was arrested for suspicion of being an illegal. They were arrested for being dumb asses, something many liberals are known for in their arrest reports.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.3.20  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  bugsy @4.3.18    last year
This one was debunked months ago. No surprise that most on the left still believe it is true because the original source never corrected/deleted it.

Have you noticed they never give the WHOLE situation.  Just cherry picked parts to fit some idiotic narrative.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.3.21  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.3.16    last year
Jeremy assumed these were visa revocations

I didn't assume a goddamn thing.  I ask you a simple fkng question.  One that you STILL haven't answered.

Perhaps you could try watching the rest because they are all very real and all very sad

The 1st 3 were bullshit, why would we watch the rest?  

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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4.3.22  Trout Giggles  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.3.21    last year

so these aren't your words?

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.3.23  bugsy  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.3.21    last year
The 1st 3 were bullshit, why would we watch the rest?

Hell, you are better than I am. I stopped after the first one knowing the rest were bullshit.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.3.24  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.3.22    last year

Yes those are my words.  Now, do you see the punctuation at the end...looks like this  - ?   You should have learned about that in grade school.  It indicates that there is a question being asked.  

It's not an assumption.  

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.3.25  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  bugsy @4.3.23    last year

I figured I'd give it a few.  When what I saw turned out to be 100% bullshit, I stopped.  No sense in continuing.

 
 
 
Thomas
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5  Thomas    last year

Well, from what I have seen,  more people don't want a dictator than do. So he can stuff it right back where it came from.

 
 
 
TOM PA
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6  TOM PA    last year

 “many people”  Please Mr. 45/47 name 10.  

 
 
 
Krishna
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6.1  Krishna  replied to  TOM PA @6    last year
Please Mr. 45/47 name 10.  

I'll name 10:

There's John, Joe, Bill, Fred, Greg,Mary, Jill, Jenny. Elizabeth...and Altagracia!

OK, now its your turn. 

What names would you like to choose for names for 10 people?

 
 

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