Wait, so NOW You Want an Abortion?
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It's ridiculous how hypocritical fake Christians-in-name-only can be about things like this. Women should be in charge of their own reproductive health.
You voted for Donald Trump and his MAGA movement, winning (stealing) the 2016 and 2024 presidential elections. You did what you're programmed to do as a good (hypocritical) Christian in your conservative, religious red state. You cheered as Trump stacked the Supreme Court with as many conservative "Christians" as quickly as he possibly could during his last term.
You watched as your party did nothing about sensible gun control laws. You identify as "Pro-Life", at least until the baby is born. Then fuck that, it's somebody else's problem. You don't want to pay to feed it, house it, protect it at school from mass shootings, or care about its well-being.
You don't enjoy paying your fair share of taxes to raise someone else's welfare baby. This life doesn't matter anymore. Well, at least until it's old enough to join our military. Then it has a purpose once again. America needs soldiers, right?
George Carlin spelled out the abortion issue brilliantly, almost 30 years ago. It's hauntingly uncanny that this is the exact shitty situation we're in now. Tell me I'm wrong, after watching this clip:
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You don't want your tax dollars paying for health care, daycare, Head Start, or paid time off for the new mother. You piss and moan about the sanctity of life and what your bible says, but don't think ahead to the near future. You should have though, and here's why:
What happens now when the red state you live in bans abortions completely? Or worse, suppose your stacked conservative Supreme Court backs up and upholds any state laws if it comes down to it? Guess what happens, then?
Your high school-aged son knocks up his little girlfriend after prom. Or god forbid, your daughter is raped and is forced to carry her rapist's baby to term. What about when that hot little number you're seeing on the side during your midlife crisis suddenly misses her period?
Fuck.
You're up shit-creek without a paddle or a life-jacket, and the waters are stormy. When I was in high school, it used to cost a quarter million dollars to raise a child from infancy to high school graduation. I bet it's closer to a full million dollars, now. And it's not getting any easier, with Trump's goddamn tariffs raising prices.
Everyone knew girls who suddenly had to attend an alternative school because they got knocked up. If an awkward, hormone-driven junior high or high school-aged kid is fortunate enough to find a girl willing to have sex, it's gonna happen. There's no way you'll stop it.
It doesn't matter if you come from a religious, well-respected family. Unwanted teen pregnancies happen to religious families as much or more than to others. Why? Because conservative religious families tend to be ignorant about sex. Mine was.
They preach abstinence, even though you can't scare most kids enough for them to actually practice it. It's one thing if abstinence is forced upon you because you're an unfortunate-looking, nerdy kid. Take it from someone who had that exact experience in the 80s to early 90s. It's quite another to be a good-looking kid who can find another attractive member of the opposite or same sex who wants to get naked with you.
Many religious folks are so uptight about premarital sex that they don't even have "The Talk" with their children. Some, like my pastor father, didn't allow their children to participate in Sex Ed classes in junior high and high school. I had to sit in the library every day for two weeks like a dipshit because my father didn't want me to get any liberal ideas about boning.
It was fortunate for me that at junior high and high school age, I was not some Casanova. I probably would have had a half dozen, curly-headed, big-nosed kids by graduation with a whole bunch of baby mamas. This brings me to my next point:
Being a teen mother is not an easy road to travel.
Who raises these unwanted children? If you are an anti-abortion, red-voting conservative Christian, guess what? YOU'LL be raising these children. Your child's brain isn't fully formed until the age of 25. You think your son and Statutory Susie are going to make great parents? Wake the hell up.
Hopefully, you have a cool mil in your bank account. And that idea of a nice, quiet home alone with your loving, subservient church wife happening at age 38? Try age 56 now, at the soonest. Early retirement? Hell no. You'll be working BOTH jobs you'll be holding, trying to afford to raise another baby, and having your young-adult kids living at home with you.
And how about this scenario: You get caught having an affair with the hot little 21-year-old secretary at the real estate office where you work. Your long-time faithful wife decides that you're not going to raise this illegitimate bastard child in HER home and serves you divorce papers.
Your church family finds out. They judge you. They support your wife through this situation, as well as they should. Or maybe they won't, since douchebag men seem to matter more than women in a lot of Evangelical churches.
Her lawyer gets her the house and alimony that YOU'RE paying since she has always been a stay-at-home mother to your three other children. You know, the ones that you're paying college tuition for. Weddings for the girls. Money becomes tight. You're getting worried and stressing out.
This kind of fella is who I'm talking about. There are more of them, too.
You move into an apartment, which is what you and Secretary Baby-Mama can afford. So now you're paying for pricey self-employment health insurance for two more people. Those rates are fucked. Your above-average real estate income is suddenly split between two families.
The baby is born, and you stop sleeping. Baby Mama is going through post-partum depression and then finally snaps out of it. You think you're on Easy Street, but new problems pop up. She's not happy living with a 52-year-old middle-aged man who's reminding her of her controlling, conservative, asshole father.
She rebels and wants to live her life. You're the one watching the baby after long work days while she goes out with her young friends. You yell at her, she screams back, the baby is crying, and she says she's leaving you and taking half your shit. Now you're working with half of half of what you were earning 18 months ago.
That abortion sounds a lot more reasonable now, right? Oh, but you couldn't get one. You live in a conservative red state. The same one in which you voted for conservative candidates across the board because the Bible tells you so. You didn't want women making their own reproductive choices. So now they can't.
Women know far better than men do about their reproductive rights.
You did the Christian thing to do, right? Or did you? At least you stood up for the unborn. Even though it made more sense to leave women's reproductive rights to women, where they belong.
It's been over 50 years since they were given those rights constitutionally. This wasn't a new issue. Women were doing just fine without your conservative, religiously-influenced male viewpoint butting into it.
Why don't conservatives just adopt babies, children, and even teenagers who are already in the system? We have close to a million children needing homes in our country, but no, you couldn't consider that viewpoint. You'd rather force women to give birth and add to the high number of children in the system.
This brings another issue to light: Crime. When Roe V. Wade guaranteed a woman's right to choose her own reproductive rights, the number of unwanted pregnancies plummeted. As did crime statistics.
Children who are born into poverty and into homes where their parents do not want them to commit more crimes. Republicans who love to use the slogan, "Blue Lives Matter," are about to see a spike in crime over the next 10 to 20 years.
So no, you can't have an abortion. Get the hell out of here with that bullshit. You don't deserve one. Just like mass shootings, COVID-related deaths, or general poverty, you don't give a damn about such issues until they impact you on a personal level.
And it will, when you lose your insurance that tripled in cost to pay for all of this child birthing and 18 years of parenting. You can thank your Buttlord Billionaire and his shitty, lazy Congress, who have been paid not to work for over a month now.
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We can never discuss this too much
it's preferable to die on death row than to bend a knee to a maga POS ...
AMEN, Brother devangelical. I bow to your esteemed verses. You are one HELL of a POWERHOUSE. - Gracias, Amigo
One more thing.
I won't tolerate trolling comments about women keeping their legs closed. Women don't get pregnant on their own
That doesn't mean you can't comment with a reasonable, well thought out argument
I'm not too familiar with Catholicism-- but isn't there something about "immaculate conception"?
that story only worked the first time ...
The concept of the Immaculate Conception is all about Mary's birth. She was born with no sin. Strictly Catholic doctrine
The word in the original text we've been told means "virgin" was mistranslated - it it's context it should have been translated to mean "unaccompanied" as Mary was traveling unmarried. The "immaculate conception" translation was pushed during the Council of Nicea turning Jesus from a internarant desert prophet into a messiah to unify the Roman nation with one state sanctioned religion under Constantine.
Shhhh, only Jesuit scholars talk like that, lol.
… it should have been translated to mean "unaccompanied" as Mary was traveling unmarried.
So obviously god knocker her up. Sounds like rape. Too bad there wasn’t a clinic nearby.
supposedly mary was 12-14 years old when she was impregnated by god, which is why christo-fascists are driven to enable and protect pedophiles ...
Jeez, TG! 99% of American "Christians" think it's about Mary. You're not allowed to bring facts to a discussion of religion.
Is "abortion" religious? 🤣🤣🤣
So many arrogant ARSE WIPES, Trump Lickers infecting our country with their "BORN AGAIN BS RELIGION"!
FUGAZI The SUPID!
(PS: I smile every time I see your pen name. It is a warm and masterful moniker. Your posts are devastatingly impressive, powerful, and endearing.)
After a long hiatus, I am back from the "Living Dead", which oddly was interesting!
Thank you for your kind words and I'm glad you're back from the "dead"
If you do not have the right to abortion, are you truly free ?
No, you are not free. You have lost bodily autonomy per the will of the state for no valid legal reason.
A couple of weeks ago I saw where a numbnut from Oklahoma said they did not care if big city liberals lost their Medicaid and SNAP benefits because they and all their children and their grandchildren were all on Sooner Care and they got their groceries with EBT cards (Electronic Benefits Transfer). The dumbass did not know Sooner Care is Oklahoma's Medicaid program and that EBT is Oklahoma's SNAP benefit...
FFS!
Well, I think OK is one of the worst states for education so there's that
True, and has a sky high incarceration rate comparable to Yemen, Venezuela and ARK.
Ignorance is "CONTAGIOUS".
Is there a shot for it? Other than a rifle shot?
A lot of people find it easy to be cruel and judgmental. Until a problem affects them.
Yes, bad selfish sinful women get abortions and good Christians only get necessary D&Cs.
Perhaps all kinds of sex are sinful and should be banned.
(Shouldn't be difficult to do this. ICE can come around and arrest & deport anyone they believe had been having sexual intercourse.)
I say, "NO SEX"! Cut out the SEX. Too many people are busy having sex when they should be out working in the fields to feed the Uber-rich!
But the same people that are complaining about sex, are the same ones who say women should be barefoot and pregnant.
They have no empathy. And they think that they are 'helping' God. . . but, they ignore the fact that God being over every life and death decision. . . permits thousands of deaths in this world everyday—from all sorts of methods of dying and (apparently does not 'bat' an eye. Why? Because as far as God is concerned according to the Bible-no one is dead in the presence of God.
That said, Christians persuaded that abortion is biblically wrong. . . are mentally stuck defending the life of the Unborn. As the words on the pages of the 'Book' can not be revised or removed. Those words written there are set in the proverbial stone. So those who read those words are 'set in stone' with that perspective they take!
These people like to claim that anything they attack is forbidden in the Bible (as if that should determine our laws), but it usually is not.
Well, the bible can be 'contract' law. . . for them. You are correct-to them only. Moreover, they should be able to hold themselves 'captive' to every thought while operating inside their churches, facilities, and grounds.
For example, what if I come from a 'second' religious perspective that teaches as canon: Abortion is permitted by God. Should I be able to lawfully promulgate my convictions too? Of course I should!
However, 'They' wish to remove my freedom and replace it with their dogma as state and potentially national law (by passing a constitutional amendment outlawing abortion).
While I support where you're going with this, it's a bit more complex of an issue. What if that 'second' religion's 'perspective' teaches as canon: sex with children is permitted by God. "Should I be able to lawfully promulgate my convictions too?" Of course you shouldn't!
I believe it comes down to two things:
1. Consent
2. What do we consider a human with human rights. At the sperm and egg stage? Are men around the globe potentially murdering trillions of humans every day? Or is it as Roe had ruled, at the point when a fetus can survive outside the womb on its own.
So that church preaching sex with children is right out because a minor can't consent.
Okay, a fertilized egg can't consent either!
And that's what takes us to the question of what age between sperm/egg birth do we consider it a 'human' with human rights.
CB: In 1971, I picked up two hitchhikers en route to Nevada. I had recently graduated from Central State University and was working at an Elementary School in Dayton, Ohio, while I pondered what to do with my life.
For some unknown reason, I felt compelled to give them a lift. I am glad that I did, because it was a life-changing experience that lingers to this day.
I was an English Major with a Minor in Theater & Psychology, a wannabe poet, writer, actor, and comedian with great ambitions. I was open to the Hippy Movement, even spent some time in Greenwich Village working at the Ye Little Club, wear I mingled with actors, comedians, poets, singers, and musicians.
It was the right place, at the right time, 1962.
In short, when I dropped them off in Indianapolis, Indiana, the quiet, unspoken Navajo Indian gave me a PEYOTE BUTTON.
Later that day, "I fell through the CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE and heard GOD'S VOICE.
He said: "I (meaning God) can only do good!"
Instantly, I flipped head over feet, backward, and slid through a metal door with my hands in another dimension and my body in this one. It was a moment of enlightenment.
There is more to REALITY than we know.
I LOVE YOUR POSTS!
The word BIBLE means a collection of manuscripts. Under Constantine, the KING routed the removal of the manuscripts that he and his team of religious scholars disapproved of, and burned them, including killing any known living scribe.
Is the so-called "HOLLY BIBLE" authentic?
Or, a collection of stories?
Hi DP. My statement was 'crafted' towards a legitimate issue that has been given the political treatment. Of course, having a religious belief that calls for sex with minors would run afoul of the law for the obvious reason that our community as a whole is against that>>>across political platforms.
Yes! A fertilized egg is a human being in development. And, all things being equal the 'fruition' of that development will be a new human BEING. Otherwise, developmental error or aborting will be an end to it.
Thus, the ROE decision was a COMPROMISE by an astute set of Justices to reach a compromise that afforded fairness to the newly impregnated mother and her expectant offspring which had not reached the 'threshold' point of entering our world. (The fetus is in its own world inside the mother subject to the 'dictates' of its bearer.)
My suggestion of a counterpoint to the Prolifers' takeover of the abortion issue simply by force and through religious rhetoric is that not everyone agrees with their rhetoric. . . and, that disagreement can take the form of another form of religious belief! Resulting in putting both religious stances on equal footing where those who religiously do not want abortion need not have one. . . and those who do believe in abortion are not REQUIRED to give birth to an unwanted living, air-breathing, literal baby.
You know, like you potentially, I think "we" all could use a shot of peyote to open up the 'vault of heaven' in our minds: think Timothy Leary and his psychedelics. Who knows how long we could exist in such a 'state'? Most of us are cautious. . . and fearing the unknown back away after several experiences (thus 'falling' back to Earth). What a tragedy.
Well, what we do know about the bible is that it EXIST! That there are humans who 'swear' by it and seek to live their lives out of it. That they call it: Holy Bible (not 'Holly Bible') -
I think it was a fairly reasonable compromise which basically established that 'viability' was the point where society was allowed to step in to protect a fetus because it could survive outside of the womb without assistance from the mother. Sadly, when Roe was killed by these dipshit conservative justices, that eliminated any sort of standard and now States can pass laws against even the morning after pill if just a simple majority in some cases feel that a fertilized egg is a full human with their own human rights that supersede the human's rights of the woman that fertilized egg has attached itself to. That means in some States at the moment of conception, perhaps from some rightwing conservative asshole dropping a date rape drug into her drink at a bar, that woman could lose her right to privacy and individual rights and would become an enslaved birthing surrogate for the State with no choice to terminate the pregnancy under threats of arrest and jail time if she doesn't carry it to full term bringing another unwanted child into the world. For what? Rightwing conservative Christian's "feelings". Because we can't allow those to get bruised, they're far too sensitive so we need to be careful we don't hurt their wittle conservative Christian feewings.
Roe was a figurative 'splitting of the baby' decision and no humor is intended there. An abortion is a weighty and meaningful affair needing to be reserved for its immediacy and long-term ramifications on the mental stability of the 'mother.' (For changes over time in life can bring the issue 'front and center' of the mind of a girl, or woman, with pains of guilt (or 'toxic' shame), each time the news accounts deal with the issue.)
It's hard enough to execute. It is (even) harder when you have 'gatherings' of individuals crowding around the front perimeter of the wellness centers carrying OVER-sized signs! Though, to my knowledge those holding the sign do not block the path, but they are PERSISTENT-in my area. I see them often at the location-silently standing (to my knowledge) for years now!
I do not mind their presence there, because the issue is a real one and every 'occasion' to save a life should be utilized. However, I do not support anybody using 'excessive' measures to ignore a girl's or woman's FINAL decision! It is her own to make.
As for the prospective Father, he can go seek out another egg (-bearer) and ask her beforehand if she wishes to give life to his dream of child (ownership).
Anything that started out in Hebrew, translated to Greek then Roman and eventually ENGLISH
has about as much chance to be correct as any NFL official on any given Sunday that cannot get a call correct with 13 camera angles of instant replay.
I can’t tell you how many evangelicals have said to me, “but scripture is clear.”
It couldn’t be less clear. If it were clear, we wouldn’t look to a pastor to break it down for us every week. Hell, you wouldn’t even need seminary.
Our own Constitution is barely 200 years old, was written in our country, in our language, and we can’t even agree on what that document says. But something written in Ancient Greek, Aramaic, or Hebrew 2000-plus years ago is supposed to “clear.”
The Bible says almost nothing about abortion.
"Soul" is an intellectual construct that did not exist when either of the Testaments was written, so "when the soul enters the body" was meaningless. The few references to when a child's life begins agree that it's when breathing begins... at birth.
But hey! Since when do American "Christians" know (or care) what's actually in the Book? 🙄🙄🙄
Hi Bob, I write about what is in the "Book" which is why I plainly stated, ". . .according to the Bible" and "Christians persuaded that abortion is biblically wrong. . ." for CONTEXT.
As to your words: "The bible says almost nothing about abortion." Is that comparable to the wording: "Almost pregnant." — Either the bible does say something about abortion or it does not! (Not that I agree one way or the other whether the Bible does or not.)
I do agree that human life (in this world) begins when one survives birthing into this world (crossing the earthly 'threshold). Because what a fetus or 'baby' does in the womb is not comparable to anything that a baby will do in our world.
As to your last comment: I do not know what to write back, partly because it reads as skeptical.
Not exactly. Context is always important, and rarely obvious. Most people don't know when various religious ideas appeared, so they commit egregious anachronisms without knowing so.
Personally, I mistrust "inference". I much prefer clear meanings. But the Bible is a literary / poetic work at heart. It wasn't written by engineers.
It would be simpler if a passage said "An individual's life begins when it starts breathing"... or whatever. But there is no such passage, so people make inferences... and then other people make other inferences...... 🙄
The 'problem' the bible suffers from is it evidently was not intended to be read 2000 plus years later (for its meanings to be 'shifted' onto translators galore)! Those writers intended it only for the 'near term' and 'hasty' return of Jesus as the Christ!. So here we are. . . working through a bunch of ancient documents (for living) trying to make contemporary and practical sense of them. (I am certain-if Jesus does not return soon that it will get worse in the coming centuries.) Humans are in the processes of changing right now (again).
Think that they are helping God?
Don’t they realize that God is all powerful? ( She definitely doesn’t need our help!)
Yes. The NT authors assumed that the Second Coming was near.
Ooooops....
Actually... yes.
God doesn't intervene in our universe. She expects us to do as we should. She expects us to help one another to do so.
"She" - God can be whatsoever god wishes to be (in the human realm). . . thus, it is my personal conclusion that God is gender-neutral.
As in: Numbers 23:19:
Also:
And 'they' were told not to do that. . . similar to the explicit statement in the Old Testament to believers to not make images of anything in heaven. . .and 9yet) we see all types and sorts of visuals of supposed super-natural beings! People (apparently) can not help (stop) themselves. And so we have a great deal of misrepresentation and mis/dis-information presented to us and every succeeding generation adding to the 'problem.'
Yeah...... God's people have a hard time obeying God...
😑
Similar to the explicit statement in the Old Testament to believers to not make images of anything in heaven
There is also a widespread belief, especially in the West, that Muslims are forbidden to make images of The Prophet Mohammed (Peace Be Upon Him).
The fact is that (as is the case with many religions) there are many, many images of Mohammed (PBUH)-- made by Muslims!
(Some Muslims believe that is blasphemy...but others don't.)
I am only an 'expert' on the Bible and the Christian faith. SORRY!
I'm not an expert on any of this religion stuff-- but I've gotten good at faking it on social media sites!
In the Bible, Numbers 5 gives instructions for abortion.
God used to care more about convincing humans to punish slutty women than preserve the lives of the unborn. He has since changed his immutable mind, according to those christofascists who claim to know the mind of god.
No, they still want the slutty women punished. Since they can no longer stone them to death, they punish them by saddling them with a newborn they don't want, and possibly can't care for, while yelling at them for struggling to take care of said newborn. They punish them with poverty, and yell at them for being poor.
define punish.
boo hoo hoo >sniff<, I miss the 70's ...
Which type of punishment?
(After all, punishments come in at least 50 different shades of
Gray),
These conservatives and evangelicals that stand against abortion should be exposed to public scrutiny when they 'violate' their own doctrine against abortion and where relevant birth control. They should be 'driven' out of the 'closet' and made famous-or infamous-in public!
Dayum.
"Dayum"?
I say, "No Soup For You"!
It was mandatory to attend a recent company event and I avoided the upper level Trump grovelers as best I could but the owner hunted me down for my opinions of the company.
"greatest economy EVER but the company is struggling because of Bidens policies...?" he says. ( we had three back to back record years under Biden)
"Nice scapegoat" I replied
"Perhaps if you paid everyone the same way with the same formula and stopped competing with them and stealing the more lucrative accounts, moral would be better," I said.
"No one living month to month or week to week blames Biden, they blame Trump and Musk for the DOGE, tariffs and ICE irregularities and same old politics", I continued.
He snapped at me that "Elon was the hero who rescued three astronauts doomed to die in agony on Biden's orders". I laughed out loud at him and he reacted like I had slapped him.
I cannot fathom how this guy is so successful when he doesn't realize when he's being lied to by his own confirmation bias
" There were 14 people on the international space station at the time and Boeing had a contract with the US A to fix their return vehicle; Biden held them to their contract, nothing else.
"Have any of the 11 other astronauts died on the ISS, I asked? "
"But Trump said... " he answered. " I am going to look that up on my smart phone, it can't be correct that we left 11 others behind".
This is why I work remotely, to shield myself from the stooopidity of the uninformed voters.
I feel your pain. my filters are now defective since I've retired, so I've had to become more reclusive.
Ooooooooo! You went 'deep' with that one! Stabbed 'him' right in the Narrative with that one. Now then, what a courageous soul you are to use all this mental 'training' from Newstalkers to articulate a point with a "big guy"! (We got your back!)
Which came first? the chicken or the egg? LoL
If you are asking me my opinion on that subject. Well, I have one for ya, mi amigo!
Biblically-speaking, the Chicken came first. As in Eve gave birth to the first offspring. Extrapolation: Eve was created the first female. The first Chicken was created!
"Abortion rights" has never been about the child.
It has always been about limiting women's rights.
Duh.
Abortion restrictions limit men's rights too and many men are too foolish to see that
I think we have a winning comment !!! Ding, ding, ding.!