Tucker Carlson: "The defining fact of our lives is that whites around the world are being eliminated"

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Wasn't he a member of the Dan White Society?

I fully support the elimination of trump supporting whites, using the most expeditious and graphic ways possible.

whites around the world are being eliminated, and I would like to know why. Do you have any guesses?

maga.

Agh, let me see, is it because the Sun is getting brighter?

FIGUERS, and Tucker Carlson is a SPOILED RICH BRAT, like Donald J. Trump, who has convinced himself that he knows everything that needs to be known.

A dozen "UBER RICH SNOBS" believed that they should control America via a CEO approach to government and "Diddy-Poop-Poop" on our Constitution, and the RULE OF LAW, because, well, they are SUPER, DUPER RICH SNOBS.

trump and maga need to be fucked up permanently ...

Sooner or later, every month or two, Tucker Carlson will be openly racist.  I believe he remains a sometime confidant of Donald Trump to this day. 

You don't think he is now?

No he is, he was in the oval office with Trump a few weeks ago. I just dont know how often they talk. 

Carlson is at the least a suck up to white supremacists although I believe he is even worse than that. And he has a large MAGA following, including Trump. 

He sees boogeymen around every corner. And the guests he has on his show just bolster that fear and paranoia

When Carlson was at Fox he had a couple white supremacy sympathizers on his payroll. Who knows how many he has now? 

The spoiled Rich Mother Tucker has always been a SUPERIOR WHITE SUPREMACIST, it's in the jeans...blue jeans, that get too tight and, thus, stop fluid from going to their brain, at their big mouths.

It is a common medical problem, particularly in BIG TALKERS! (Or, so I was advised by one of my many HALLUCINATIONS!

This wasn’t even subtle or coded. This was proud racism.

It is what racists want this country to RETURN TO - its racist past! This is what happens when a society plays 'footsies' with strident racists and bigoted people. . . bigots create a vacuum where the positive "PC" is sucked out and then proceed to REPLACE it with negative "PC." That is, this is what Trump and MAGA want us be: Separated. Tribal. In our 'pods' where we know nothing about Others and they can mind-f-ck the nation like it's starting out 1776 all over again. 

Let me hasten to write that '1776 is been there done that got the T-shirt!' the world has moved on whether some sad case prejudiced fools like it or not!

That is correct, TACO!

Tucker, the Little Muther Fucardo, grew up rich, despises people who are not, and believes that the UBER RICH should RULE THE ROOST!

Sucking down caviar can lead to STUPIDITY, or so I am told by my "Sauces" Ghouliani & Steve Bunions.

Sooner or later, every month or two, Tucker Carlson will be openly racist.

He already is. Also has become very anti-Semitic.

One leads to another in the NEO-NAZI Renaissance.

Indeed, Tucker and the FOX FAUX NEWS NETWORK of Dimwits, Suckups, and "Wannabe Rich" have convinced themselves they, too, are SPECIAL.

Special Ed. is more likely!

The problem we have in the United States of America, and throughout the world, is that the SUPER RICH, who often inherited wealth, are damned and determined that their SHAT doesn't STINK, but everyone that is not them, DOES!

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Executive summary  Tucker Carlson has a documented history of making racist, dehumanizing remarks in public and private communications — including on-air radio comments compiled by watchdogs and a racist text message revealed in litigation that helped precipitate his Fox ouster  ^{[1]   [2]   [3]} . Reporting also shows he has retained access to Donald Trump at times, appearing at White House events and maintaining a working relationship that has been described as confidant-like, even as the relationship has been uneven and at points openly fractious  ^{[4]   [5]   [6]} .

Sooner or later, every month or two, Tucker Carlson will be openly racist.  I believe he remains a sometime confidant of Donald Trump to this day. 

Tucker Carlson was seen in the oval office just a few weeks ago. 

Tucker Carlson was seen in the oval office just a few weeks ago. 

Tucker  Carlson  was  recently  seen  in  the  Oval  Office ,  having  met  with  President  Donald  Trump  on  consecutive  Fridays.  During  these  visits,  he  was  photographed  alongside  Trump,  Secretary  of  State  Marco  Rubio,  and  White  House  Chief  of  Staff  Susie  Wiles,  which  sparked  significant  media  attention  and  discussion  about  his  influence  within  the  administration.  Carlson's  appearances  have  also  drawn  criticism  from  various  conservative  circles,  highlighting  ongoing  tensions  within  the  MAGA  movement. 

The Great Replacement Theory "justifies" the abuse - including murder - of nie-blanks. 

CARLSON: Well, all of us benefit, white and non-white, benefit alike from systems created by whites because they're more humane, they're more just, they're more fair, and they're more — much more efficient and cleaner, obviously

This fool fails the 'obvious' test. White people have never been alone in the formation of ideas for this country of ours. Even though the racist Whites will love to claim this country as theirs simply because of a white majority. Racists are the stupidest people on planet earth! Why? Because they lack the intellect to be free of hate for others! 

Furthermore, just for s-its and giggles. . .our system of government has been created and sustained by NON-RACISTS WHITES and Others combined-not just RACISTS of any and all hateful stripes. Yes! All of us have had input into what this country is today. It's called building a COMMUNITY and as such it does not belong to any one group of citizens in this country. When will BIGOTEDD RACIST FOOLS get that through those thick cemented brains of theirs?

Carlson is a race bigot. Call him what he is:  A stupid race bigot! If he did not wish to be thought of as such. . . then, he should not publicly talk or write like one!

I wouldnt doubt that Carlson is the one who put the "shithole countries" thought into Trump's mind. 

Well he would be in good company with 'old-school' bigots like Pat Buchanan, Rush Limbaugh (deceased.), and Trump himself. Trump never apologized for his duplicity in the New York City rape case against five persons of color!  Trump is his own man and carries his own set of prejudices, biases, and hatreds, in my opinion. That is, Trump pushes back against anything he does not wish to have associated with his name. . .he is not pushing back against Carlson-because they are like-minded.

Here is the real deal. . . if racist whites (and other racist bastards) are in power. . .wherever they may be in power. . . they will be using the collective brain power of all of us. . . I repeat. . .ALL OF US. . . to make their lives the 'norm' for the country. That is, there has never been an occasion where racists will not use our 'whole bodies' as a resource to make their lives and dreams fruitful.

I wouldnt doubt that Carlson is the one who put the "shithole countries" thought into Trump's mind. 

I've always found this curious.  I don't understand how there is so much furor over calling these places what they are when there doesn't seem to be any angst at all about not fixing what they are.  It seems to me we're objecting to the wrong thing.

Immediately after Trump's admittedly unnecessary statements, NBC ran a photo collage on its website attempting to demonstrate how beautiful some of these supposed "shitholes" are.  About halfway through the slides was a photo of a beautiful young Haitian girl in a white dress walking to school.... stepping over the raw sewage running down the middle of the road.  Some of these places are .... quite literally.... "shitholes".

Maybe... just maybe.... we might consider diverting some of the money USAID spent to produce transgender operas in Columbia or some of money the NSF spent on researching the sexuality of glaciers into digging some latrines and maybe a treatment plant or two.

When you (generic you) say "white" countries do this or that, or everything, better you are being racist.

I guess you could say undeveloped or third world countries cannot match the material conditions or achievements of the developed countries , but that is not what people like Carlson and Brimelow do. 

Brimelows website V-Dare refers to the first white child born in the English colonies of North America.  Why? 

(generic you)

Thanks for the distinction.

say "white" countries do this or that, or everything, better you are being racist.

I would never describe them that way.  I would never have said "shithole" either.  Even if it's true, you're not moving in the right direction by saying it that way.  

I guess you could say undeveloped or third world countries cannot match the material conditions or achievements of the developed countries , but that is not what people like Carlson and Brimelow do.

That's the politically correct way to say it, yeah. 

Unfortunately, there are undeniable racial correlations between "third world countries" and "developed countries".    We can decide that talking about that is too offensive and bury our heads in the sand or we can acknowledge it and talk about how we might improve matters. 

I tend toward the latter, but as you're fond of pointing out I don't care about people being offended by what other people say.

Brimelows website V-Dare

That just sounds like one of those bowels of the internet places I don't ever want to go.

Tucker Carlson is pretty racist and white supremacist adjacent.  He is also a friend of the president.  Trump should disown him if he doesnt want to be lumped in the same boat. 

Assuming he cares. 

Tucker Carlson is pretty racist and white supremacist adjacent.

I've never followed him.  The times I did hear him speak he just didn't sound intelligent enough to warrant more time.

  He is also a friend of the president.  Trump should disown him if he doesnt want to be lumped in the same boat. 

Meh.  I'm not sure that's a realistic ask.  If every president disowned everybody they'd ever met who made an ass of themselves on camera, that would be the full time job of the POTUS.  They wouldn't have time for much else.

If Trump is going to go about disowning people, it seems to me that Carlson is at the back of a pretty long line of more important folks.

And I think the "more important" aspect is why we see Carlson more commonly associated with fringe nutjobs with each passing year. He's just another washed up minor celebrity pulling stupid attention whoring stunts as he tries to cling on to what fame he might have once had.  There are a ton of these people around, who just can't cope with the idea that they're not famous anymore.

Maybe. So what? Help them learn how to build indoor plumbing. . . and to better set up long-lasting positive government. It would be the Christian thing to do. . . and it comes with benefits. I would like to know where all this AGGRESSIVE bulls-it comes from. . . because it certainly is not present in the scriptures and directives given about the 'lowly' Jesus!

Also, racist fools like Carlson prey on other racist fools emotions. All they want to do is subordinate others under SKIN. Skin. Fools separating people over skin. Even while in our preeminent country they use the intellect of Others to advance this country. Most racist, by the way, are dumb as door knobs. . . just saying. . .doorknobs with big mouths!

Unfortunately, there are undeniable racial correlations between "third world countries" and "developed countries".    We can decide that talking about that is too offensive and bury our heads in the sand or we can acknowledge it and talk about how we might improve matters. 

Please we still have MAGA supporters (including Trump) that surmise that Native Americans and Others are better referred to as "savages" - no matter how savvy they are!

stepping over the raw sewage running down the middle of the road.  Some of these places are .... quite literally.... "shitholes".

Sure, but it’s not like these places had sewage systems in place and opted to not use them because black people prefer filth, or don’t understand the virtues of cleanliness. These are places where that infrastructure has not developed yet because of poverty, or it was there previously and has been destroyed by war. The color of their skin has nothing to do with any of that.

Without doubt Tucker Carlson is considered to be a major MAGA personality. 

Carlson is not a MAGA foot soldier—he’s a power center. He shapes the movement’s debates, challenges Trump when he chooses, and still commands enough influence to spark internal battles. That combination makes him a major MAGA figure, even if not always a loyal one. Microsoft Copilot: Your AI companion

Sure, but it’s not like these places had sewage systems in place and opted to not use them because black people prefer filth, or don’t understand the virtues of cleanliness.

Let me say this. Personally, I like my clean neighborhood in the United States. I have not been to parts of the world where sewage is a thing on the street - even though I have used outhouses before in the states!

It would benefit those countries that have their 's-it'  in such backward states to try to come up in the world, if only so bigots and prejudiced fools can stop pointing at their 'need' on a daily basis. 

If these places can do better and don't or won't then it on them. Let them sit in 's-it' days and nights of their own stupid, pathetic making. If they simply can not organize themselves that is not an excuse for I do not believe they are that backwards mentally. If collectively they have a 'fetish' for sitting around in filth (like I have seen in some blighted communities stateside) then shame on their collectives. 

I will not make no excuses for nasty people any more than I will grant bigots a right to talk s-it about them.

Yes, there is a grain a truth to all of this and there are catalysts that keep some of this "alive" and perpetual too!

White supremacists gloat about "shithole countries" while conveniently forgetting the colonial brutality that made them. The Brits slaughtered anyone who resisted them... and built the "greatest" empire.

Oh... also... slavery.

History matters. 

The British Empire was the largest the world has ever seen; at its zenith it controlled roughly a quarter of the world’s population and landmass. This colossal achievement was built upon systematic violence, from colonial massacres and concentration camps, to engineered famine and systematic torture. In the cases of India and Palestine, British imperial rule ended in ongoing and bloody legacies of partition. Read on to discover the heinous acts carried out in the name of the British Empire. What Were the Most Terrible Acts of the British Empire? | TheCollector

conveniently forgetting the colonial brutality that made them

Yeah, it was horrible how they brought all that medicine, technology and concept of individual rights to superior civilizations. 

Just look at Singapore or Hong Kong these days. Colonialism sure ruined them. Or Haiti. Been independent almost as long  as long as America and sure is thriving comparted  to the parr of the island it shares with a country that was colonized for decades longer...

Emphatically!

Maybe. So what? Help them learn how to build indoor plumbing. . . and to better set up long-lasting positive government. It would be the Christian thing to do. . . and it comes with benefits.

There is pretty considerable history on those attempts.  There is a reason everybody in India speaks English, the national language of Brazil is Portuguese, and there is an African country called "Côte d'Ivoire".  Mexicans don't speak "Mexican", despite what Oklahoma rednecks might tell you.

Sadly, you can't force people to improve their countries.

I would like to know where all this AGGRESSIVE bulls-it comes from.. . because it certainly is not present in the scriptures and directives given about the 'lowly' Jesus!

To what are you referring?  Be specific.

Sure, but it’s not like these places had sewage systems in place and opted to not use them because black people prefer filth, or don’t understand the virtues of cleanliness. These are places where that infrastructure has not developed yet because of poverty, or it was there previously and has been destroyed by war.

OK.

The color of their skin has nothing to do with any of that.

I realize that's what we all want to believe.  We want that to be true.  We want it to be true so badly that we refuse to consider anything else and we scream names at anybody who challenges the idea.

But at some point the math becomes too much to ignore, and you've got to at least ask some questions.

Throughout history, when whites have lived in poverty and squalor, was it because of the color of their skin? 

Absolutely — throughout history and across continents, people of every background, including white people, have lived in poverty and harsh conditions. Poverty isn’t tied to any one race; it’s shaped by economics, geography, politics, and social structures. Microsoft Copilot: Your AI companion

Without doubt Tucker Carlson is considered to be a major MAGA personality. 

That may be true.  As I said, I don't follow him.

We rightfully didn't ask Biden to apologize for all the stupid shit said on The View while he was president.  People are going to say stupid shit, and political tribalists are going to say more and stupider shit than the rest of us.  That's not the president's responsibility.

Now... by all means.... hold any president responsible for the stupid shit they say themselves, and our current POTUS spouts those with some regularity.

History matters. 

One would think you might be more accurate about it then.

Throughout history, when whites have lived in poverty and squalor, was it because of the color of their skin? 

Which whites are you referring to? 

A lot of people believe open blatant racism to be worse than "stupid shit". 

Throughout history, when whites have lived in poverty and squalor, was it because of the color of their skin? 

Yes, yes it was. Everything that has happened to every race from the beginning of mankind, including the earliest humans still living in trees, happened because of their race.

Race has been the ONLY thing that have driven poverty, oppression, who are the oppressors, etc. There is zero way that race was second to any other reason. 
Thank God we have "progressives" today that live every single moment of their lives based on the race of the person they are taking to or holding business with. Even some of their relative's race have come into question of they do not follow the left wing narrative. I really don't know how humanity has gotten this far without being infatuated with race. 

Since race has been the driver of absolutely everything, reparations should be paid to every race, by every race, no matter when you were born or if you had anything to do with someone's else's race. We should go all the way back to the earliest civilization, recorded or not, and make sure everyone alive pays them reparations. 

Disclaimer: Although there are those on this site that will actually agree with everything I wrote on this satire post, some people need to get lives and stop being fixated on race, and one man. It's not healthy.

A lot of people believe open blatant racism to be worse than "stupid shit". 

A lot of people see racism in thousands of places it doesn't exist, but fail to see it in the mirror where it should be obvious.  

Get a grip

Oh, I have a grip. It is those that see race in absolutely everything they come across are the ones that need to get a grip......right?

some people need to get lives and stop being fixated on race, and one man. It's not healthy.

Did you even look at the seed? It’s literally two men talking about race. You don’t need to have some weird race obsession to see it here. They are openly saying it.

And also, the seed isn’t even about the “one man,” but you responded with this reply to a comment that didn’t even reference him.

Have you even read some of the comments?

There are those that are fixated on race and I called them out.

Not my concern you have a problem with it.

Have you even read some of the comments?

Which comments in particular?

There are those that are fixated on race and I called them out.

Not in the comment you replied to.

Not my concern you have a problem with it.

Actually I asked a question related to your comment. As usual, you failed to give a straight answer to a straight question.

Your previous comment implies that the seed was not two racists talking, but rather the commenters have the race problem. 

Do you agree with what Carlson and his guest were saying? If not, do you see racism in their discussion?

What math? You have math that says Dark Skin = Poverty and Squalor?

Also hilarious..

Nobody asked anybody to force any 'horse' to drink. Just when a 'thirsty' one is found. . . give it water 'abundantly' and for that God will receive the glory! Furthermore, God never gets tired of sharing with humanity (if one believes in God doing so at all). Let that be a lesson about patience that is 'infinite' when it is bearing spiritual and intellectual 'fruit.' 

Yes, you could ask why are some people willfully ignorant. . .not go around patting MAGA supporters on their stupid heads and convincing them to 'stare' and 'point' at something they determine to be a cause for mocking. Now then, do MAGA supporters point at disabled individuals and their circumstances and laugh out loud? Well, do you?!

As we can see it is when people mix (as we have been doing in this country - 'borrowing and claiming' the true intellect of the world because it wants to be here "blended and folded" (Out of many One)!  Whites, especially racist whites,  learn from Others in this country -the only difference is racist whites say stupid, sad, angry, pathetic, sorry, s-it about those they learn from like they lack good understanding of the world they live.

Not very Christian to be a racist anyway to all the racists out there. Jesus would and should be ashamed.

Tucker Carlson is a fool  A fool that should know better than to be a fool. So why say what he does? Because other fools mutually agree and rally around the hate he espouses. Thus, it puts asses in the virtual seats, that makes the 'chief' fool wealthy. Is it any wonder why this world goes through so many cycles of bulls-it?! People actually fund hate with big payouts!

That comment is part of a stalling, obfuscation tactic when one is not willing to answer plainly or genuinely to others. 

What is the point? Skin is an exterior casement. MAGA supporters would look 'exotic' if they lacked skin. So yes, skin matters-just not in the way MAGA supporters intend it to matter. Incidentally, skin is not able to divide any of us from others of us. . . sickness in the mind and its forming a collective is the root issue. Fix the mind (easy to do) heal the mental illness of racism.

What math? You have math that says Dark Skin = Poverty and Squalor?

There is very clear math concerning the correlation of "developed" vs "developing" and the demographics of the citizenry.

Yes, you could ask why are some people willfully ignorant.

I realized long ago I was never going to get a reasonable explanation on that one.  I just chalk it up to emotions blinding them to any fact that might be uncomfortable.

the only difference is racist whites say stupid, sad, angry, pathetic, sorry, s-it about those they learn from like they lack good understanding of the world they live.

The fact that you only comment on this behavior from one race when it clearly and obviously exists among all is a beautiful demonstration of the issue at hand.

Tucker Carlson is a fool  A fool that should know better than to be a fool.

Again, I don't follow him.  He doesn't seem to ever say anything worth my time.

So why say what he does?

Money.  That's what drives all of these talking heads.  People will listen to what they want to hear.  

That comment is part of a stalling, obfuscation tactic when one is not willing to answer plainly or genuinely to others. 

Buddy... I hate to break this to you... but you of all people cannot ever, ever seriously criticize anyone else for not "answering plainly".  Seriously.  C'mon now.

I'm still trying to figure out WTF you're talking about with "force a horse to drink".  

Well, my focus is on racist whites attacking minorities . . where is yours focus?

And this is what I wrote. . . it would be better for us all if those quoting others would at the very least start at the 'top' of a sentence and end at the period. If not reproduce two or more sentences or even the relevant entire paragraph if appropriate! Otherwise, it is highly likely one will end up with bulls-it as a possible 'comeback.'

It is 'lightning' clear to me that since MAGA supporters know little to nothing about the media 'star' or 'titan' Tucker Carlson, this article is wasted on MAGA supporters.

"Buddy. . . wait. . .decidedly we are not virtually close (do you want to be?). . . if MAGA supporters are not familiar with the proverb that begins: "Lead a horse to water. . .," then seriously 'houston' we have a bigger issues to grind than Tucker!

Moment of AI:

Skin color is not as significant as height. There are "short" and "tall" gene pools that are more neatly delineated than skin color.

There are both Black and White aquiline noses...

"Race" is arbitrary. 

aquiline noses

Sorry! Took me a minute to investigate this "aquiline nose" situation. At this time I have no comment on that one!   Now "race" is a social construct. So yes, I agree it is arbitrary. In reality, we're all one RACE: Human.

The 'work' of getting stubborn racists to realize that actual thing begins. . . >>NOW<<!

What math? You have math that says Dark Skin = Poverty and Squalor?

That's the real problem with the whole "shithole countries" and those who think "that's what they are". The reality is that every country has places that are shitholes, just like we have here in the US. And the countries Trump and Carlson refer to have some nice cities and developed areas, and other areas are poverty stricken. Calling the entirety of the country a "shithole" demeans the entire populace even when many are likely far better educated than the MAGAites criticizing them. But that's what assholes do, they disrespect and demean anyone they feel is inferior to themselves because that's the only way they can feel good about themselves.

Personally, I'm far less concerned with the countries these bigots demean than with the shithole ideologies and blind allegiance to the lying convicted felon they elected.

Good point, it’s impossible to recognize any diffence between Haiti and the US.  Some parts are better than than others, so they are the same in the end.

There is very clear math concerning the correlation of "developed" vs "developing" and the demographics of the citizenry.

Have you heard that correlation is not causation?

Who is she/they?

Well, my focus is on racist whites attacking minorities . . where is yours focus?

Improving lives. 

Not feelings.  Those are white liberal luxuries.

Lives.

It is 'lightning' clear

Is lightning clear? 

to me that since MAGA supporters know little to nothing about the media 'star' or 'titan' Tucker Carlson, this article is wasted on MAGA supporters.

You'd have to ask them.  

Skin color is not as significant as height. There are "short" and "tall" gene pools that are more neatly delineated than skin color.

That's a fascinating idea.  I wonder what the scatter graph would look like comparing average height to per capita gdp, average income, or the number of people in poverty. 

That's the real problem with the whole "shithole countries" and those who think "that's what they are". The reality is that every country has places that are shitholes, just like we have here in the US.

That's why we look at the math.  It helps us overcome opinions.  And self righteousness.

it’s impossible to recognize any diffence between Haiti and the US.

I know, right?  And it's completely impossible to recognize any difference between Haiti and the DR.  They're literally on the same island, so it's utterly and completely impossible to see that one is 5 times wealthier than the other.

Have you heard that correlation is not causation?

Did you see me imply that it was?

Correlation merely describes the relationship between two variables.  That doesn't change the statistical validity of the measure.

Could have fooled me. I have feelings because well, I'm human and feelings set my "North Star."  

I did already. Got a MAGA supporter answer too! Ain't I the lucky one. 

So what you have to say about certain countries is something derogatory, and that is not being self-righteous? Tell me, what do you have to say about the Cripple? the Disabled? People in prisons? the foreigner?

Do you feed them? Do you clothe them? Do you visit them? Will you welcome them?

I am thinking MAGA supporters, and MAGA "adjacent" individual Trump supporters, thank God that they are not like those others with all their disgusting and bothersome problems. It's nice to consider how much grace God has given the United States so its leaders and "supporters can mock and be derisive toward the less fortunate in the goods of this world.

Of course, MAGA supporters are the 'bright bulbs' in every arena of life! /s

How are you improving lives? Whom lives? Some generic collection of folks of all stripes. . .including what you judge to be "s-ithole' countries folks? What do you tell them that they can get ahead if they just let you run their individual and distinct realities? Has it escaped a practical reality for you that we in this country are facing real challenges that are declining our own stated living conditions? When do we fix the 's-ithole' in our own country that is tearing us politically and potentially violently apart?

So yes, skin matters

No. Skin does not matter.

Only racists believe that skin color should determine a person's worth.

I guess some people dont mind presenting as racist.  The seeded material depicts racism as it correlates undesired outcomes to skin color. 

Those here who are defending or even or even reframing the seeded material need a little self-examination. 

Did you see me imply that it was?

Yes. It was literally the only thing you cited to support your position. You also deluded yourself into thinking you were doing math.

Correlation merely describes the relationship between two variables.

No. Correlation is the mere simultaneous existence of two pieces of data. It describes nothing about their relevance to the problem being studied or their connection to each other.

You could observe for example, that the poorest countries in the world have names ending in the letter “n.” That would be correlation. But only a fool thinks one of those facts is a cause of the other.

That doesn't change the statistical validity of the measure.

You are not measuring the thing you think you are.

So yes, skin matters-just not in the way MAGA supporters intend it to matter.

Here is what I wrote, and it is decidedly more that what you chose to negatively parse: "So yes, skin matters-just not in the way MAGA supporters intend it to matter."

So what you have to say about certain countries is something derogatory, and that is not being self-righteous? 

If I said obesity correlates strongly to diabetes, is that derogatory, or just fact?

Tell me, what do you have to say about the Cripple? the Disabled? People in prisons? the foreigner?

I'm not aware of any correlation between the economic status of a country and the percentage of disabled citizens.

If anything, I would guess there is an inverse correlation, based on the availability of care in developed economies.

I am thinking MAGA supporters, and MAGA "adjacent" individual Trump supporters, thank God that they are not like those others with all their disgusting and bothersome problems.

You'd have to ask them. They tend to get upset about inconvenient math also. You'll probably get along famously.

Skin is an outer layer. . .we all have skin to protect our internal organs from outside (ab)use. As far as I have experience that is the major 'job' of skin. Why anybody would wish to hate and mistreat people because they have different skin makes about as much since as hating or abusing someone because he or she has a butt!

Have a nice day!

How are you improving lives? 

I run (and fund) a family foundation that awards diversity scholarships.

How about you?

‘If I said obesity correlates strongly to diabetes, is that derogatory, or just fact’

To sane folk, it would be a fact, but to many liberals, you would be labeled as a ‘fat shaner’

Well, I won't ask you for proof as that is not what we do here. . . so now What?  As for me, I improve lives around me by supporting policies that are winsome for all of us. And, I don't have to validate that in unusual ways in the virtual 'zone,' because it is 'evident' in the tone, tenor, and stances I demonstrate daily in my comments on this site going back nine years or more.

I want everybody to win and live in peace. . . including conservatives! That is my goal for continuing to come here and reach out to NT liberals and conservatives!

I'm curious: You write that you RUN a program of "diversity" and yet you assent to a president whom actions and policies are adverse to diversity programs. . . that's doublethink, yes?

If I said obesity correlates strongly to diabetes, is that derogatory, or just fact?

That hypothetical above has little to do with calling nations "s-itholes" or painting people as s-it and/or inferior! 

If I said obesity correlates strongly to diabetes,

So does living in Pakistan. The question is why bring it up?

is that derogatory, or just fact?

It depends on why you bring it up and what point you are trying to make. The guys in the video are saying that cultures are superior or inferior because of the skin color of the people. That’s not merely offensive, it’s untrue. They bring it up to denigrate others and elevate themselves simultaneously.

The first waste water systems were developed some five thousand years ago by brownish-skinned people in the Middle East, Mesopotamia, and the Indus Valley - not by white people in Northwestern Europe.

Centuries later, these ideas spread to Greece and Italy, while white people - who lived in what would become Germany and England - lived in the kind of filth that they now condemn.

In fact, if you want to know where one of the nastiest, smelliest, most disease-ridden open sewers in the world was, look no further than the Thames River of the 19th century. Google the “Great Stink of 1858” to see what I mean.

So the idea that white civilization is somehow inherently more clean than others is demonstrably bullshit.

The commenter knows this already, as I can discern it from a stream of consciousness in his replies. That said, he is willing to argue data points that look to supply answers without the laborious and tedious work of drilling down into the complex details that makes the stats.

To sane folk, it would be a fact, but to many liberals, you would be labeled as a ‘fat shaner’

Probably, but I gave up giving a shit about that a long time ago. 

Shame is a choice.  Nobody can shame these people without their permission.  

Food intake is also a choice, BTW.  We forget that.

Food intake is also a choice, BTW

I digress. I have been forced to eat Filipino food for 37 years

Yes.

No.  Try again.

It was literally the only thing you cited to support your position.

What... exactly... was the position?  Read carefully.

You also deluded yourself into thinking you were doing math.

Correlation is a longstanding mathematical concept.  There are actually an infinite number of mathematical truths that can be identified without calculation.  For example, I don't need to actually multiply 2851 x 13594 to know it's more than 5.  Some things are just obvious.

Yeah, it was horrible how they brought all that medicine, technology and concept of individual rights to superior civilizations.  Just look at Singapore or Hong Kong these days. Colonialism sure ruined them. Or Haiti.

Are you serious? Are you actually praising present day Haiti?

So does living in Pakistan. The question is why bring it up?

How are you supposed to improve something you can't talk about?   That was my original point in 5.1.19 .  The ensuing comments in this thread have proven me more accurate than I realized.

I'll give you another doozy:  Black students in America have SAT scores 16% lower than white students. 

I defy you to improve that situation without acknowledging the data.  Go ahead.  How we gonna do that?

It depends on why you bring it up and what point you are trying to make.

Why can't you accept that I've made the point I was trying to make.  There is a correlation.  Full stop.  Why are you so determined to infer shit that isn't there?

The guys in the video are saying 

I'm not sure how many times I have to say I don't follow Tucker Carlson because he's not smart enough before people understand that I don't follow Tucker Carlson because he's not smart enough.

The guys in the video are attention whores, making a buck on confirming the bias of people who haven't interacted with enough minorities to not be afraid.  I coached basketball... in Texas... for 30 years.  They're not speaking to me or for me.

Now, are we able to understand that more than two opinions exist in the universe?  

So the idea that white civilization is somehow inherently more clean than others is demonstrably bullshit.

Well... as much as you want to believe that, the data says otherwise.

ourworldindata

I said earlier "We want it to be true so badly that we refuse to consider anything else and we scream names at anybody who challenges the idea."  We seem to still be on that part of the program, living in denial about things we should be trying to help fix.

Another Sea Lion response. You didn’t actually clarify or add anything to the conversation. Instead we got the usual attempt at deflection.

“I’m just sayin’” is a disgraceful defense of racism. Is that a quote? No. So, let me get ahead of your sea-lioning. But it is reflective of the substance of what you wrote.

Another Sea Lion response.

I don't know what that is.

You didn’t actually clarify or add anything to the conversation. 

Of course I did.  You just don't want to hear.  

You are free as usual to explain and clarify what I got wrong or what you meant. But you won’t.

LOL 

“I’m just sayin’” is a disgraceful defense of racism.

Math isn't racist just because you don't like what it says.  

If you don't give a shit about the reality these people have to live in, fine. Just be honest about it and don't try to pretend there is some sort of virtue in denial.

You are free as usual to explain and clarify what I got wrong or what you meant. But you won’t.

I supplied definitions, data, and mathematics.   You tried to pretend the math wasn't real and then called it racist.

Explain again how we make a difference if we won't acknowledge the problem?

Math isn't racist just because you don't like what it says. 

That’s almost comical. There’s still no math, and even if there were, that’s not the racist part. But you know that. You just can’t admit it.

Explain again how we make a difference if we won't acknowledge the problem?

People are not poor because they are black. Period.

Black students in America have SAT scores 16% lower than white students. 

Well, here come "Perplexity AI" again with its knowledgeable details and 'stuff'!  Get ready, . . . Coach! Jump ball!

Maybe: Had those 'struggling' black ballers considered that "coach" would be bad-mouthing them on the internet as a form of life-experience while at the same time not exhibiting any compassion for their 'state' or life off the 'court'. . . they might have foregone b-ball and the adjacent scholarships and become academics. Nah! Black ballers are becoming today's billionaires too! Funny what equity and equality can do in the hands of fair, reasonable, and agreeable people without an 'ax' to grind against Color!

That said, you have managed to 'box' yourself into not giving the "factors contributing to score disparities" and play in your mind.. . since you are arguable and clearly set against AI (with any questionable and biases) informing you of anything 'useful.'   Thus, I have no expectation that you will answer the AI - answer!

Make a difference if we won't acknowledge the problem?

What the ? is there to not comprehend about "sea-lioning" . . . that odd and funky typing machine MAGA supporters use to get here to 'us' also has search engines, online libraries, and virtual people and such to tell MAGA supporters damn near anything known. . . especially about "sea-lioning"  —try asking it. Or is that too much for MAGA contrarians?

That’s almost comical.

What's comical is your denial. We must not cloud the issue with facts.  

People are not poor because they are black. Period.

You're seem to still be struggling with the difference between correlation and causation, as well as the concepts of implication and inference.

Nowhere has anyone implied that black people are poor because they're black. That's YOU inferring things that nobody has said.

But because you can't get past this, you can't intelligently discuss what the underlying causes might actually be or how they might be addressed.

Had those 'struggling' black ballers considered that "coach" would be bad-mouthing them on the internet

Do cite me "bad mouthing" them.  Go ahead.  

The abject stupidity of that accusation is the best proof yet that some angry liberals would rather bury their head in the Sands of Self Righteousness than actually do anything to improve the life of another human being.

What the ? is there to not comprehend about "sea-lioning"

What is there not to understand that somebody somewhere has made up yet another bullshit term to describe something their limited vocabulary could not?  

underlying causes

I’ll be happily amazed if you ever present any. In the meantime, all we have from you is skin color, but somehow it’s not racist.

Or is that too much

I guess it can be when people are afraid of what they might find.

I’ll be happily amazed if you ever present any.

You're getting there, albeit unintentionally.  

I have identified correlation, which is an obvious mathematical fact regardless of how badly it sends you into orbit.  I have not said anything about causation, largely because I have never seen a valid, comprehensive data set on it. 

In the meantime, all we have from you is skin color, but somehow it’s not racist.

Correct.  It's not.  And your assertions that it somehow is are just moronic. 

Since when did it become racist to talk about wealth inequality?  Are all of these ridiculous leftists who blather about it incessantly now racists? 

So says you. I do not have to quote you saying it. . . because you circumstantially delivered the message from your personal point of view as "Coach." If you do not mean to imply it-then do not write such in the first place.

Furthermore, I do not give a care about how you feel about 'us'. . .you should give a care about how you present us though! Because it is wrong to make blanket statements (present stats) without listing any details to back them up or clarify the statements.

Well Jack, you can call it bull-s-it and yet somehow that implies you knew about it already, yes?! We're on the internet and this 'tool' has numerous word devices to explain the extraordinary scenarios a user can engage in and FIND on the world wide web. I do not use the word, "sea-lioning" (indeed, I had to look it up for our discussion-the operative wording being: 'I looked it up.' 

You can look it up too, and save the 'nay - nay' argument which takes up time and is a waste of effort. . .on both our parts!

Psst: That commenter still appears to not have used this extremely powerful INTERNET and AI to look up "Sea-lioning. This is an instance of the proverb:  'You can lead a (figuratively) horse to water, and still catch hell when it should drink!

So many words exchanged over a 'simple' wording: "sea-lioning."

I do not have to quote you saying it.

Riiiiiight.  I guess you can just pretend whatever you want.  It's a free country.

If you do not mean to imply it-then do not write such in the first place.

How about you just read correctly and stop pretending I must have meant things I never said?

Not that you bothered to ask, but what I saw first hand for decades is a public education system that utterly fails black boys.  Usually, that starts with the lowering of standards and expectations.  That bleeds over to the boys themselves, to the point that it wasn't uncommon for a HS freshman to tell me "I'm doing great in school... I'm passing all my classes".  

In our program "passing your classes" was the bare minimum to play.  The goal was A Honor Roll, and the threshold for acceptable was A-B Honor Roll.

If we have created a system whose behavior reflects an organizational belief that black kids are less capable.... don't you think that's a problem?  Don't you think that needs to change?  Do you see any way black boys are likely to get equal opportunities as long as that mindset pervades?

So is the real racist the person who is willing to face the problem or the person who refuses to talk about it?

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight, circumstantial evidence is part of a free society and online presence. 

How about you just read correctly and stop pretending I must have meant things I never said? - Jack!

Oh, I read your comment ("loud and clear!") and it spoke volumes. 'Us' persons with a discerning spirit (you as a fellow Christian should be familiar with the phrase-"discerning spirit") are quite able to understand circumstantial truth in sharing.

Usually, that starts with the lowering of standards and expectations.  That bleeds over to the boys themselves, to the point that it wasn't uncommon for a HS freshman to tell me "I'm doing great in school... I'm passing all my classes".  - Jack!

Yeah, yeah. . 'Us' black males have and continue to span the suppression gambits put in our paths. Been there got the T-shirts (I guess)

We've been failing minorities for centuries and today, even now, it is happening yet again. How do I know? Because MAGA (Make America Great Again) is not about black success it is an attempt to digress Blacks, minorities, and poor whites. . . into the 'boxes' they fought hard to climb out of as recently as 1960! Shame on MAGA (not that MAGA supporters feel any shame). To MAGA supporters, let's just say you fear y'all will not survive the future direction of the United States. Make no mistake, the future of the United States may be restrained—it can not be stopped any more than humankind can blow out the Sun.

If we have created a system whose behavior reflects an organizational belief that black kids are less capable.... don't you think that's a problem?  Don't you think that needs to change?  Do you see any way black boys are likely to get equal opportunities as long as that mindset pervades? - Jack!

"If. . .?" "If. . . ? The systems have existed since the founding of the United States and it has ebbed and flowed for centuries. . . and now "MAGA" supporters are causing it to flow in 2025 once again. It is not our fault that MAGA want to pretend colorblindness in a society which actively is striving to return to White and Black separation and individualism existing in a country intended for homogeneity and heterogeneity. 

And for the love of Jesus, do not attempt to lecture me about the 'black' experience across decades until and unless you testify to having lived it across decades. "Dipping" in and out can only educate you about just so much. It is safe to say I have lived in the nuances of being a black, male, homosexual and that our society did not support me and I am damn sure MAGA supporters (and their evangelical "family") and the GOP do not support me now. 

That last sentence (question) of yours is a supposition assuming to know 'real racism' when it is clear that of itself is an open question!

He made an attempt at drive-by trolling, but when pressed for substance, it became less fun, I guess.

CB:  

Your posts are always powerful, astute, and smash the head off of STUPID RACISTS.

Pink People, huh? Can't live with em. Can't kill em!

Pink People, huh? Can't live with em. Can't kill em!

Pink People is what you get when you mix White people with Red people.

(Similarly, if you mix Red People and Green people you get Purple People).

Basic colour theory-- ask any artist!

I certainly will do that, Krishna. I know a few artists, but more fartists, that tell me the "HOLE TOOTH, NUTIN' butt, da Tooth, So, help me Smerish"!

If I were him I’d be worried about being eliminated to.  It could be by anyone with a conscience and drive to make the world a better place to live in.

Wow, that’s pretty fucking racist.

the defining fact of our lives is that whites around the world are being eliminated

How is that a fact? Eliminated how? That just sounds like some made up bullshit to feed racist paranoia.

Do you have any guesses?

Guess? By all means, continue inventing shit.

I mean, if you look at what's happened in South Africa, or for that matter, in every big American Black city — that's majority Black. I mean, they can't want it to be able to get into a situation where the water is putrid and nothing works and all that kind of thing.

Black people can’t supply clean water?

And the purpose of, you know, non-white government is to produce non-white government and non-white results.

The purpose of non-white government is to produce itself? What is “non-white results?” Is it the purpose of white government to produce white government? What is he even talking about?

systems created by whites because they're more humane, they're more just, they're more fair, and they're more — much more efficient and cleaner, obviously.

White systems like Slavery? Jim Crow? More just and fair?

Skin color does not create systems. This really is pure racism.

It is. These self-same s-ittalkers about other people are the same people who instigate, interfere, feign kindness (it's a pretense to get what they want: Control), show up on minority doorsteps with 'offers' that have shady 'conditions' (see what Trump is attending with the Inuit in Greenland), and are always bedeviling life for minorities (Others) one way or another. It has been going on indefinitely.

see what Trump is attending with the Inuit in Greenland

The big question: Are people in Greenland "Green People"?

(If so, is the society they've created better-- or worse-- than societies created by people of other colours?)

There are white people who have unfortunate outcomes and living conditions, that is why they are called poor white trash. But they are not poor because they are white. 

Throughout history there have been poor people of all races , and criminals of all races. At times in the 19th century London had a significant crime problem.  I believe there were very few blacks around at the time. 

At   times   in   the   19th   century   London   had   a   significant   crime   problem

they are called poor white trash. But they are not poor because they are white. 

And they’re “trash” because the white supremacists disapprove of their poverty because it contaminates the narrative that whites are inherently superior. Whites, in this paradigm, are not allowed to be poor.

Overpopulation is the root problem and multiplies other problems

Here we go again with your overpopulation drama.  Ever notice how you’re the only one who brings this up?  It’s because we are not running out of space and resources, they just aren’t being managed well.  You like to jump in at any opportunity to claim the earth has too many humans, and you call the ones you don’t like “feral cats” - gee, I wonder why you don’t disclose your final solution to the problem endlessly rattling around alone in your head?

there's obviously too many inbred maga goobers in america ...

Overpopulation is the root problem and multiplies other problems

Overpopulation is an argument that lost validity twenty or thirty years ago.The Earth is perfectly capable of feeding its population - probably two or three times over - if ressources are managed reasonably.

But ressources are NOT managed reasonably - they are stolen by the ultra-rich to make themselves even richer. So people die of malnutrition. 

The problem is not overpopulation. The problem is the ultra-rich.

Similarly, we have people of great, abiding, and even overwhelming success (not all of the wealthy fall into this sub-set (they know whom they are)) running around trying to top themselves and complain about those having little more than a pot to pee in at the end of the day, week, or year! 

The books of the New Testament talks about such fools. Not only are they greedy, sordid in varying ways, they are control freaks too!

Yes to everything you say here. 

Overpopulation is an argument that lost validity twenty or thirty years ago. The Earth is perfectly capable of feeding its population - probably two or three times over - if resources are managed reasonably.

The only problem with so many humans is that there are more of them to covet their neighbor's ass. It's not really "the rich" that are the problem, it's human nature. Few are able to be satisfied with what they have, they're always looking at what someone else has, always trying to keep up with the Jones's, always thinking the patch of grass someone else occupies is greener. Humans are greedy, jealous and petty. But they're also kind, generous and honest if they want to be. Sadly, that trend is clearly fading in America with this "Me First!" mentality pushed by Trump and his MAGAites. What we see on our streets today from this administration and the pack of feral dogs he calls his base is clearly not kind, not generous and certainly not honest. Those traits have been sacrificed on the altar of Trump and the bloodstains on America will take a long time to completely remove. Those who gave up their kindness, generosity and honesty are bitterly afraid of what they see as overpopulation because to them it's a zero-sum game, they can't afford to be generous or kind. They need to take, take, take, even when they don't really need whatever it is, but they want to make sure someone else doesn't get it before they do. It's the thinking of a neanderthal, but that's what we're facing right now in America, nearly half our nation trying to take us back to the stone age.

I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. - Albert Einstein

Throughout history there have been poor people of all races

During the Civil Rights era I met an African-American woman who taught me this little ditty which is somehow related to that:

A dollar is a dollar

And cash is cash

I'd rather be a n*gger,

Than Po' White Trash.

Po' White Trash.

IIRC this is a Southern expression. If any of you Yankees here aren't familiar with the Southern expression "Po' White Trash", it is basically what Yankees call "Trailer Park Trash."

P.S: Up North "trash" is one syllable, but South of the Mason-Dixon line "Trash" is 2 syllables*. 

(* 'ceptin maybe in Southern New Joisey).

It is blatantly racist.

The "fact" isn't a fact, either. "Eliminated" implies an actor and active causation. 

I promted ChatGPT : Fact check the claim that " whites around the world are being eliminated". It said 

There is no credible evidence that “whites around the world are being eliminated.”
What is true is that in some societies (especially in the U.S. and other Western nations), the proportion of people identifying as white is changing over time due to demographic factors — not because of any deliberate eradication. The idea of “elimination” comes from a debunked conspiracy theory rooted in fear and misinterpretation of population trends.

The rest is just like the first, an untrue assertion, sloppily postulated and unsupported by facts. 

Just call it what it is: a racist lie.

And that is what I read and hear too. I have nothing against my Caucasian brothers and sisters. . . (here I go again with the mention) the love of my life was a white man. . . . I can't linger on that right now as it would. . . .

Back to my point: If Caucasian -particularly of the male variety, want more offspring in a world that is increasing mixed race and brown people. . . in the words of comedian D. L. Hughley - "F-ck more!"

Seriously, white males stop trying to control white women and let them produce for you 'At-will.' Encourage women to want to give birth (incentivize them in a POSITIVE way) and do not DEMAND that a girl or woman forget herself in the 'equation' of life! Make a girl's or woman's SACRIFICE of self for the good 'worthwhile' in her daily living. Understanding that something has to change in the 'approach' to women's lives or these women (all of them) will fight back instead of cooperate. That is, do not tell them or indicate that their only purpose in life is breeding.

Why wouldn't white women wish to produce more babies. . .if all things are equal in doing so? 

The rest is just like the first, an untrue assertion, sloppily postulated and unsupported by facts. 

In other words, the way most politicians talk . . .

There is no credible evidence that “whites around the world are being eliminated. ”What is true is that in some societies (especially in the U.S. and other Western nations), the proportion of people identifying as white is changing over time due to demographic factors — not because of any deliberate eradication. The idea of “elimination” comes from a debunked conspiracy theory rooted in fear and misinterpretation of population trends.

So MAGA is 'running' with fear and misinterpretation. . . .not fact! So it FEELINGS.

I was born on January 18, 1942, just after Pearl Harbor.

I grew up in Dayton, Ohio, in a White, Working Class Neighborhood, consisting of folks from a variety of cultures, but God forbid, no African Americans, Negroes, Mixed Racist, because we were all CHRISTIANS, CATHOLICS, EVANGELIGALS, TALKING-IN-TONGUE BAPTISTS, and devout racists. 

It was in our parents' blood, which the husband loved to shed, when drunk and brawlin' fer fun.

My father was a born-again, white alcoholic from Minnesota, before he died from cirrhosis of the Liver, bad breath, smoking a pack a day, while banging the ugly witches of the day.

Everyone, in that time period, in our smug little slice of East Dayton had nicknames: 

"Wops" for Italians, "Spicks" for Puerto Ricans, "Jews", we had lots of them. 

The racist Matt Walsh seems perturbed that a movie produced and directed by black people, and starring black actors,  SINNERS, received the most Academy Award nominations yesterday. 

The folks living on mountaintops in magnificent glass houses are always ready to throw stones at the people living in the 'valleys.'    

They should not hate Black Americans for finally getting more award representation. Did you know that since the inception of the 1929 Academy Awards ("Oscar) 3200 awards have been awarded with 54 Oscars going to Black Americans. 

54!

I wonder what others got the 3146 awards not given to blacks. . . maybe just maybe the academy should revisit those award ceremonies. . . just kidding. What is done is done!

For some people , if a black, hispanic, or asian person gets nominated for an award a white person could have been nominated for it is DEI. 

Let's just face it, people like Tucker and many of the rightwing bigots who follow both he and Trump, believe even interracial marriage is "eliminating whites". They're myopic xenophobes. They're scared shitless with even the slightest change in racial or religious status quo. Their town has a new Muslim community growing on the outskirts? The Muslims are here to destroy us and force sharia law on everyone! An openly gay person moves into the neighborhood? The gays are coming for all our kids! Watch out! The gay agenda is going to convert you and everyone you know! These rightwing white religious conservatives are not smart folks, they're the lowest common denominator amongst us but we're not supposed to point it out because if we do then we're the assholes.

I am a little bit confused because this is the defining fact of our lives is that whites around the world are being eliminated, and I would like to know why.

The define fact of our lives is the fact that racist, misogynistic, nationalists, like Carlson et al have an audience.