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After Taking The Bait, The Chief Justice Prepares To Switch On The ACA

  
Via:  Vic Eldred  •  6 years ago  •  24 comments

By:   JONATHAN TURLEY

After Taking The Bait, The Chief Justice Prepares To Switch On The ACA
Yesterday's oral argument before the Supreme Court was most notable in the collapsing of the false narrative used by many Democratic senators and media figures in the Barrett confirmation that the Affordable Care Act was close to being overturned in the case of California v. Texas. That conspiracy theory (that suggested that the rush to…

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Yesterday's oral argument before the Supreme Court was most notable in the collapsing of the false narrative used by many Democratic senators and media figures in the Barrett confirmation that the Affordable Care Act was close to being overturned in the case of California v. Texas. That conspiracy theory (that suggested that the rush to confirm Barrett was to supply the final needed vote) was shattered when both Chief Justice John Roberts and Associate Justice Brett Kavanaugh repeated their position in favor of severance — a position that would guarantee the survival of the ACA. What was equally notable however was the slightly pathetic scene of Roberts effectively acknowledging that he might have been a chump in accepting the arguments on the individual mandate eight years ago in National Federation of Independent Business v. Sebelius, 567 U.S. 519 (2012). For years, Roberts has been on a collision course with himself — and yesterday he had a one-person pileup.

Eight years ago, Roberts sided with the conservative justices that requiring individuals to buy insurance was a flagrant violation of federalism guarantees, a view I shared. But in what read like a last minute addition, he voted with the four liberal justices in declaring that none of that matters because he viewed the individual mandate as a tax. It was a surprising turn, since both sides had denied that this was a tax. But by declaring the individual mandate an exercise of the taxing authority of Congress, Roberts saved the law. He insisted the individual mandate was the thumping heart of ObamaCare, which could not survive without its tax revenue from the healthy young citizens who would pay more into the system than they took out. Roberts wrote that "the individual mandate was Congress's solution" to the existential problems associated with a national health care system. Likewise, the liberal justices joined Roberts in saying that, without the individual mandate, the other parts of the ACA "alone will not work."

His decision, refashioning the mandate as a tax, appeared artificial and opportunistic to many of us. It also sowed the seeds of its own destruction by not just resting the survival of ObamaCare on the existence of the tax but by insisting that the law could not survive without it. Congress called his bluff by zeroing out the tax, which was the very thing that Roberts had said was needed to sustain ObamaCare as a constitutional matter.

In the oral argument in 2012, Roberts explored whether Congress to force Americans to buy broccoli to make themselves healthier. While Roberts ultimately ruled that the individual mandate (and broccoli compulsion) was a violation of federalism, he made all of that discussion moot by declaring the individual mandate a tax.

Now, the supporters of the ACA are back and insisting that the individual mandate was never really the essential element that they claimed to the Court. The painful position of Roberts was evident in oral argument:

"Eight years ago, those defending the mandate emphasized that it was the key to the whole act. Everything turned on getting money from people forced to buy insurance to cover all the other shortfalls in the expansion of healthcare. But now the representation is that, oh, no, everything's fine without it. Why the bait and switch? . . . We spent all that time talking about broccoli for nothing?"

Well, it was not for nothing. It was a bait and switch. What is interesting is that Roberts took the bait and now appears ready to do his own switch. He suggested that he would again save the ACA through severance but do so by recognizing that the basis of his earlier opinion is now invalid. Indeed, Roberts himself could find the individual mandate unconstitutional.

So, Roberts could create a curious precedent: he saved the ACA in 2012 by declaring the individual mandate essential to the survival of Act and then may save the ACA again in 2020 by declaring that the individual mandate is not essential to the survival of the Act. If that seems confusing, welcome to the world of Chief Justice Roberts on the ACA.


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Vic Eldred
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1  seeder  Vic Eldred    6 years ago

Yes, Roberts does dither.

 
 
 
CB
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1.1  CB  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    6 years ago

If you wish to have an automaton as justice: Just ask Roberts to 'apply.'

 
 
 
Tacos!
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1.1.2  Tacos!  replied to  CB @1.1    6 years ago
an automaton as justice

?

John Roberts is the opposite of that.

With pivotal votes, Chief Justice John Roberts confounds conservatives and liberals

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.3  CB  replied to  Tacos! @1.1.2    6 years ago

Respond properly to @1 (not me).

 
 
 
Tacos!
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1.1.4  Tacos!  replied to  CB @1.1.3    6 years ago

I think I'll respond to whomever I want. Thanks.

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.5  CB  replied to  Tacos! @1.1.4    6 years ago

Mm-hm-mmm. I see now. Now, that speaks volumes. . . .

 
 
 
Tacos!
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1.1.6  Tacos!  replied to  CB @1.1.5    6 years ago

Yep, I believe in liberty. Some people hate that because it means they can't force me to think or act in way that they want. Too bad for them!

 
 
 
JBB
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1.1.7  JBB  replied to  Tacos! @1.1.2    6 years ago

WHOOSH!

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.8  CB  replied to  Tacos! @1.1.6    6 years ago

So many words. . . just to dodge the matter of responding to the original statement. I have not in the past or do not in the present consider CJ Roberts an automaton. My @1.1 remark makes more sense in context of the original @1 commenter, I think.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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1.1.9  Tacos!  replied to  CB @1.1.8    6 years ago
just to dodge the matter of responding to the original statement

I dodge nothing. I'm just not interested. Why do you care? If you want to respond, no one is stopping. Why do you care what I think about what someone else said?

 
 
 
JBB
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1.1.10  JBB  replied to  Tacos! @1.1.9    6 years ago

The point was that your comment made no sense within context of previous comments...

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4  Sean Treacy    6 years ago

Another day, another conspiracy used by Democrats to scare their voters.

this will be forgotten like all the others when the judgment is handed down 

 
 
 
Dulay
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5  Dulay    6 years ago
"Eight years ago, those defending the mandate emphasized that it was the key to the whole act. Everything turned on getting money from people forced to buy insurance to cover all the other shortfalls in the expansion of healthcare. But now the representation is that, oh, no, everything's fine without it. Why the bait and switch? . . . We spent all that time talking about broccoli for nothing?"

I always check when a quote, especially one for a Supreme Court Justice, is truncated. There is rarely a 'good' reason for it...

CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS: Mr. Verrilli, eight years ago, those defending the -- the mandate emphasized that it was the key to the whole Act. Everything turned on getting money from people forced to buy insurance to cover all
the other shortfalls in the expansion of -- of -- of healthcare. And the briefs here on the other side go over all that.
But -- but now the representation is that, oh, no, everything's fine without it. Why -- why the bait and switch? Was
-- was Congress wrong when it said that the mandate was the key to the whole thing, that --
that we spent -- spent all that time talking about broccoli for nothing? 

The answer: 

MR. VERRILLI: So, Mr. Chief Justice, in 2010, I don't think there's any doubt that Congress made a predictive judgment about what would be needed to create an effective market. 

And they adopted a carrot-and-stick approach.

There were a lot of carrots. You know, the policies were attractive, limited  co-pays, no annual or lifetime caps. There were generous subsidies to draw people into the market, and it was easy to enroll because of the exchanges.

But there was also a stick, the tax payment if you didn't enroll. And I don't think there's any doubt that the 2010 Congress thought that stick was important.

But it's turned out that the carrots work without the stick. That's the judgment that the Congress made in 2017. That's what CBS told Congress -- what the CBO, rather, told Congress, that Congress asked the CBO, what'll happen if we repeal the mandate outright? What'll happen if we zero out the tax? And CBO
came back and said, whether you zero out the tax or you repeal the mandate, the effects on the market will be the same, the market will remain stable over the coming decade.

And if one looks at the amicus briefs filed by the health insurance industry, the Blue Cross brief, the AHIP brief, if one looks at the AMA brief, all those briefs are confirming that that judgment was correct, that it turns out that the carrots worked without the stick and brought enough people in the market to allow it
 to sustain itself.

And, you know, Congress is allowed to learn from experience, empirical experience in the world, and adjust its policy choices. And that is what happened here. 

Reads like a very cogent reply. What say you Vic? 

FYI here are some other comments made during the hearing:

CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS: General Hawkins, on the severance question, I think it's hard for you to argue that Congress intended the entire Act to fall if the mandate were struck down when the same Congress that lowered the
penalty to zero did not even try to repeal the rest of the Act. I think, frankly, that they wanted the Court to do that. But that's not our job.

....

CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS: Well, but I mean -- I -- I certainly agree with you about our job in interpreting the statute, but, under the severability question, where -- we ask ourselves whether Congress would want the rest of the law to survive if an unconstitutional provision were severed.

And, here, Congress left the rest of the law intact when it lowered the penalty to zero. That seems to be compelling evidence on the question. 

....

JUSTICE ALITO: The -- the -- what -- what -- the feature of this case that has a -- a strange aspect is the sea change that's occurred in the understanding of the role of the individual mandate between our first Affordable Care Act case and today. 

At the time of the first case, there was strong reason to believe that the individual mandate was like a part in an airplane that was essential to keep the plane flying so that if that part was taken out, the plane would crash.
But now the part has been taken out and the plane has not crashed.
 

So if we were to decide this case the way you advocate, how would we explain why the individual mandate in its present form is essential to the operation of the Act? 

...

JUSTICE KAVANAUGH: I'm sorry to interrupt, Mr. Verrilli, but let's assume --just for the sake of argument, assume I don't agree with that and then we get to severability.

I tend to agree with you that it's a very straightforward case for severability under our precedents, meaning that we would excise the mandate and leave the rest of the Act in place,
reading our severability precedents.

So I have to wonder why Turley chose to highlight Roberts' statement and try to hang the outcome on him. Ever were Roberts to vote with the 3 'liberal' Justices, there are 5 conservatives left in the majority. It doesn't look to me like Kavanaugh or Alito are convinced either...

 
 
 
Tacos!
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6  Tacos!    6 years ago

They need to throw this mess out and start over. It might take a Constitutional amendment.

 
 
 
CB
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7  CB    6 years ago
So, Roberts could create a curious precedent: he saved the ACA in 2012 by declaring the individual mandate essential to the survival of Act and then may save the ACA again in 2020 by declaring that the individual mandate is not essential to the survival of the Act. If that seems confusing, welcome to the world of Chief Justice Roberts on the ACA.

This is confusing by Jonathan Turley, and I have questions:

  1. Was it the "ACA supporters (AKA: House democrats)" that made the specific assertion the individual mandate was essential to the "survival" of the ACA in 2012, for which Chief Justice Roberts found that it could not stand unless it was RE-categorized as something which congress has authorization to render: Taxation?
  2. Was it the Courts ruling the individual mandate unconstitutional because of its taxation or a later republican-controlled congress repealing/removing the individual mandate which got rid of it?
  3. Finally, is'nt CJ Roberts simply saying: 'It is the job of congress to get rid of the law it established wholly of its own doing? And not expect the court to 'sever' a probable constitutional portion of the law in the stead of Congress voting to invalidate the law?  (For which republicans would need a House majority.)
 
 

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