‘Progressive’ Is a Misnomer: Leftists Drive Society Backwards and Downwards
By: Jerry Newcombe
This is exactly right. Progressivism is socialism. It is an all out assault upon our constitution and constitutional government and liberty.
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Leftists like to style themselves “progressives” – but in reality, the fall-out of so much of their ideology is to drive individuals and society backwards and downwards into darkness and degradation.
by Jerry Newcombe, D.Min.
It has been said that he who frames the debate wins the debate. I think the “progressives” were brilliant to coin this term. But in reality, it’s one big lie.
Progress is a good thing, but many of the policies of the so-called “progressives” is anti-progress. “Progressive” is a misnomer.
As my boss, Dr. Frank Wright notes , “Using the fraudulent manipulation of language, Leftist progressives aim to advance their political, environmental, quasi-scientific, and socialistic agenda.”
And the Bible says in Isaiah 5, “Woe to those who call evil good” and vice versa.
Here are seven reasons I believe that “progressive” is indeed a “fraudulent” term and should be frankly and explicitly abandoned.
1) Is it progress when babies are killed in utero in the name of choice, when the majority of the women who abort didn’t want to choose abortion, but actually had it forced on them? Even if they did want it, how it is progress for a mother to kill her own child ? It’s not progress; it’s barbarism—but because it is hidden from view, we don’t see it that way.
2) Is it progress to curb free speech in the name of political correctness? It’s not progress to allow only one view to be spoken. But this has become the norm on our college campuses today when it comes to the social issues. It’s as if the conservative side has lost—but has it even gotten a hearing? I always remember a conversation with the Heritage Foundation’s Robert Rector, a walking-expert on the impact of welfare on society. I asked him one time how he became a conservative. He said it was by hearing Phyllis Schlafly once speak at a campus event. Just one person arguing on behalf of the truth in one setting changed the trajectory of the man’s life.
3) Is it progress to softly subjugate tens of millions of Americans by seducing them to receive government money (paid by other taxpayers) to do nothing—so that they will always vote for the so-called “progressives”? They are born, they live, they die. They never fulfill their God-given vocational destiny, for which they will one day given an account to Him—and yet, they expand the progressives’ power base by voting them in time after time. And that’s progress?
4) Is it progress to hamstring the police? To defund them? To humiliate and shame them as if all cops are like the one convicted of murdering George Floyd? We have seen “ACAB” spray-painted all over the place during riots in the last year. That stands for “All Cops Are B——-.” But are they? I thought the whole point of not being prejudiced is to not pre-judge. There are bad apples among cops. There are bad apples among politicians and preachers and movie actors, etc. But to indict all cops is nuts. Furthermore, is it progress to turn our once-great cities into virtual war zones? Just about all our major cities are run by corrupt political machines. All are on the left and implement the so-called “progressive” agenda. Writing in the Wall Street Journal (5/19/21) , Jason L. Riley notes, “The limp progressive response to rising crime and disorder has benefitted Texas and Florida.” Violent crime has shot up dramatically in those places where the left has moved to “defund the police.” The worst hit is the urban poor. No wonder Gallup found that 81 percent of Black Americans do not support defunding the police.
5) Is it progress to spend gazillions of dollars which we do not have—thus, bankrupting our children and children’s children, possibly one day forcing the dollar into hyperinflation? In the Weimar Republic of Germany (which collapsed, helping to lead to Nazi rule), it was said that bringing a wheelbarrow full of cash could only purchase a loaf of bread. The cart itself was worth more than the millions in paper money it contained.
6) Is it progress to jettison Constitutional government? No government system has brought so much stability for so long in world history as has the American system. But the “progressives” claim the Constitution is allegedly racist and must go.
7) Is it progress to indoctrinate America’s school children and teach them a bunch of lies so that they will grow up to hate their own country? Where’s the progress in that? As one critic put it, “Marxism in the classroom, riots in the streets.”
“Progressives” don’t promote real progress. They promote socialism. So why not just call them that? “Progressive” is false advertising.
“Conservatives,” in contrast, have something to conserve.
I believe Patrick Henry put his finger on why we have fallen for the “progressive” myth. He declared, “It is when a people forget God, that tyrants forge their chains.”
Is there a reason you repeat everything? Nonsense should only be read once.
It was highlights worthy of repeating and reinforcing. Perhaps next time you could comment about what is said in an article instead of complaining about it.
Repeating and reinforcing are the mainstays of propaganda.
Another 'article' SCREAMING PROJECTION!
'I believe Patrick Henry put his finger on why we have fallen for the “progressive” myth. He declared, “It is when a people forget God, that tyrants forge their chains.”'
It would more respect Henry had Newcombe said people forget God when God is chained to reactionary agendas.
'Progressive' refers to a tendency of the pseudo-left, which exists an a failing effort to foil the rise of the working class, directly forcing its agenda into public space. Subjugation is all that Newcombe and those who quote him know. They intend to be the subjugators. The working class will refuse to be subjugated. It's about social class.
Trump and the GOP are the party of the working class now.
'Trump and the GOP are the party of the working class now.'
[personal attack and no value]
Trump's Republican Party is the bourgeoisie party it is the party of those who own factories, forests, fields, industries of energy, logistics, communications, railroads and rail yards, shipping lines and shipyards, airlines, airports and the like. Ownership of such interests defines the bourgeoisie CLASS and subsequent program. This class is defined by its ability to convert ownership into wealth.
XXJefferson51: your contention is the material equivalent to saying that even those with no choice but to present daily on the market to sell labor power at whatever terms KAPITAL will allow have the means to buy Google, Amazon, Apple and Boeing. Your contention is the material equivalent to stating that anyone on this board -- together with people who live hand-to-mouth -- have the material resources to be own powerful transnational corporations with holdings on every continent on earth.
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Get rid of all that class consciousness. We have no permanent classes here. The fact is that the rich have Biden moving to the democrats and the working class is moving to the GOP. As to your demand, not only do I not apologize, I double down on and stand by everything I said. I’m always proud to figuratively do what you describe to the faces you describe on the communist far left.
XXJerrerson51:
You confuse pride with arrogance and unbridled insolence and profligate speech corrupts those who use it. Everything that happens under Kapital concerns class. If class did not exist and did not matter, you would have naught to post.
Your parties serve the constituents of the same ruling class. One speaks the fraud of the ownership section, and the other speaks the fraud of the investment/banking/finance section. Nowhere on the official political spectrum under KAPITAL is there a constituency for the working class.
Society has the means and resources to resolve every political crisis that exists. It is the complete domination of the ruling class which prevents any progress on any issue which does not suit the interests of the profligate ruling class for which you speak.
To affirm that you spit metaphorically in the face of the working class is incorrect. The next massive, political shift is not going to be to the right but to the left. It is going to bring industrial strikes such have not been seen for a hundred years. We have no illusions about a benevolent ruling class. The ruling class will not hesitate to turn guns on its own population. It has no compunction about bombing US citizens on US soil. As these events transpire -- which they will -- your character demonstrates that you will side with the faction which declares whole regions 'lost to the republic' and calls for its decimation -- including the use of low-yield, tactical nuclear devices.
To preserve its privilege, the ruling class is willing to eradicate every man, every woman, every child and every dog in every region which refuses to bow to its demands.
Moreover, you more than anyone intend to MAINTAIN Kapital class distinctions as they exist.
You're going to have to move further and further to the right. You're going to have to support ever more war and repression of civil rights. The ruling class for which you speak will have no choice but to demand war and world war. It belongs to the working class to refuse those diktats, to refuse to fight that third world war, and to exact class vengeance by building the classless society which you FALSELY SAY exists at the present.
Interesting. I have often thought (of recent) that we are nearing time for a unique national boycott of some kind. Because this is getting really, really, stupid and hard to explain, and even live through.
The turning of guns and "tactical nuclear devices" will engender hatreds and lasting guerilla warfare that would demolish our ability to be a whole nation (and even one split apart-we are too close together as states), and that is when the true menace to our society will enter in through the 'accessway.'
You are a bit of a doomsday-sayer, Trotsky' Sp'! But carry on, some of your commentary has born fruit in the past.
'I have often thought (of recent) that we are nearing time for a unique national boycott of some kind.'
The way ahead is not 'some kind' of national boycott; it is a General Strike.
Class hatreds are ensured when the ownership, investment and labor interests are arranged in mutual contrariety. This is called Capitalism.
Before concluding that the antecedent post is 'over the top,' do revisit the battle of Blair Mountain, CB. To crush the miner's insurrection, Harding's regime allocated federal troops [2,000+], machine guns, gas and a dozen bomber aircraft. As you become aware of the history of labor conflict, it might become more understandable why my lash descends on Democratic, Republican and trade union types indiscriminately. Look at that history, CB. Consider well that in seeing your past, you see also your future.
The ruling class would prefer to convince the 90% to fall at its feet as willing slaves.But it has bombed US citizens on US soil before; it is prepared to do so again 'if necessary' [to preserve its social privilege].
Make no mistake, CB; XXJefferson51 instructions to forget class consciousness are a thinly veiled warning to the US working class.
What's the takeaway here, Trotsky Sp'? (I don't mean to redirect discussion away from 'Jefferson' (he deserves it), nevertheless.)
CB:
Thanks for your reply. Other obligations hindered my answering until now.
Your source is light on details. I’ll summarize what I’ve got. It’s not my work, but I’ll document if you want it.
The Battle of Blair Mountain was a miners’ war against coal mine owners who funded an army led by Logan County sheriff, Don Chafin. Miner combatant numbers run from 10,000 to 20,000. It was well organized. At least 2,000 were schooled in military discipline, field tactics and combat experience in the First Great War. Sympathetic doctors/nurses established and manned field hospitals. Mess halls formed and served three daily meals.
The battle began August 26, 1921. Miners regiments clashed with Chafin’s army of police, the National Guard, Baldwin-Felts agents and a volunteer militia on the Blair Mountain ridge at the Logan County border. Fighting lasted for one week. Some 30 of Chafin’s men were killed; 50 to 100 miners died. Hundreds were wounded.
The battle sparked by the August 1, 1921 assassination of pro-union Matewan WV sheriff, Sid Hatfield [and his friend Ed Chambers], by C.E. Lively [Baldwin-Felts Detective Agency]. It was an act of revenge for the 1920 ‘Matewan Massacre.’
Hatfield, backed with armed miners, confronted 11 Baldwin-Felts gun thugs hired by Stone Mountain Coal Company, to evict union miners from company-owned homes. Hatfield tried to arrest the ‘agents’ readying to leave town by train. A gunfight followed. Hatfield later told the US Congress that some 50 to 75 shots were fired. Seven Baldwin-Felts thugs died, including Albert and Lee Felts, brothers of Thomas Felts, founder of the agency. None of this caused the battle.
The CAUSE of the insurrection answered to decades of utterly devastating social conditions [emphasis mine] faced by miners.
Years before the Blair Mountain Battle, worker struggle surged in West Virginia’s coalfields. In the Paint Creek-Cabin Creek Strike [1912-1913], miners clashed with hundreds of ‘mine guards’ [gun thugs and strikebreakers organized by the Baldwin-Felts agency]. In Life, Work and Rebellion in the Coal Fields, author David Corbin wrote that South West Virginia coal diggers death rate was proportionally higher than the American Expeditionary Force during the First War.
Coal companies ran miners’ lives. Miners lived in company towns in company owned homes and were not paid. They received ‘mine script,’ which only company stores accepted for goods sold at inflated prices. The West Virginia state government and both US Representatives to Congress all had longstanding relations with the coal industry. Miners had no voice in the political establishment, which gave complete support to the profit interests of the coal operators.
Thousands left West Virginia’s coalfields to fight in the First War. When survivors returned to the poverty/slave-labor conditions in the mines, tensions increased severely. Corbin noted that from 1919 to 1921, southern West Virginia coal fields ‘exploded in wildcat strikes. In one coal field alone, sixty-three work stoppages occurred within eleven months. At one time seventeen wildcat strikes were in progress simultaneously.’
The 1917 Revolution very much in mind, socialist influence was growing. West Virginia imposed the 1919 ‘Red Flag’ law, curbing free speech and demonstrations in the coalfields. In ‘The Battle of Blair Mountain,’ historian Robert Shogan quotes the response to this law by a union local in the Coal River region. It warned ‘the ruling class of this state’ that
‘As a final arbiter of the rights of public assembly, free speech and a free and uncensored press, we will not for a single moment hesitate to meet our enemies upon the battle fields. And there amid the roar of the cannon and the groans of the dying and crash of systems purchase again our birthright of blood bought freedom.’
The United Mine Workers leadership immediately tried first to revoke and then to distance itself from the resolution.
Under these conditions, an eruption of social tensions was all but inevitable. August 7, days after Hatfield’s murder, some 5,000 coal miners went to the state capital of Charleston to present demands to the governor. They attended a mass meeting at which labor organizer Frank Keeney spoke. Keeney said that if workers wanted to secure their rights, they would need to do so with ‘a high-powered rifle.’
August 20, thousands of miners assembled at Lens Creek in Kanawha County, to form an army. Miner aims went far beyond demands for real wages and better living conditions. Their anger was so explosive that they prepared to march to Logan County and kill Sheriff Chafin. Their intent was to continue to Mingo County and take over the entire county, to release all pro-union activists from the prisons there, to end martial law, and to end the ‘mine guard’ system.
Governor Morgan requested federal troops from the Harding administration. An official statement released by the governor’s office read:
‘The Governor’s office is fully aware of the gravity of the situation. Two men were killed in the district while numerous stores on Cabin and Paint Creeks, along Kanawha River and Coal River have been entered by armed men and robbed of arms, ammunition and supplies. Trains have been stopped and forced by men with drawn guns to haul them to their destination.’
The Governor framed his communiqué with monstrous fraud of restoring ‘law and order’ and hoped that it could be ‘accomplished without bloodshed.’ In fact brutal efforts were made to crush the miners’ uprising. Private planes hired by coal mine owners dropped bombs on miner encampments. Under Kapital, ‘law and order’ meant reducing of miners to productive units in service of coal company owner diktats, backed by the legal system and the federal administration.
Coming not four years after the Bolshevik seizure of power, the militant, mass character of the miners’ uprising terrified the political establishment. In the ruling class perspective of President Harding and West Virginia Governor Ephraim Morgan, the state could not afford to spare even the most severe methods to suppress this insurgency. By September 5, the miners’ uprising was crushed fully. By then, an estimated one million rounds of ammunition were fired.
Defeated in battle, miners were faced new mine owner attacks. A post-war drop in coal demand rationalized reducing their already miserable wages and conditions. A previously won $1.50/day raise was rescinded. True to form, the UMWA capitulated to the claw-back without a fight in the interest of ‘the perpetuation of the union.’ The WV UMWA signed off on a precipitous drop in tonnage rates and state membership collapsed from 50,000 to only a few hundred.
Blair Mountain showed the world the brutality and exploitation in Appalachia’s coalfields. It showed the vast strength of the working class. Appalachia’s social conditions drove tens of thousands of workers in that region into conflict. Rich in courage, self-sacrifice and class solidarity, the defeats and setbacks were due not to a lack of worker willingness to fight and die to be freed from exploitation. Decisive was the failure to adopt a consciously socialist program. For the miners’ militancy and eagerness to fight, a “high powered rifle” was no substitute for a revolutionary party and program.
You ask what lessons are to be learned.
1] Ownership of the means of production is a license to impose social conditions incompatible with human well-bring. Under Kapital, the state maintains, orders the affairs of, and crushes challenges to this system of social and propertied class relations. The property/government alliance is inviolable under Kapital.
2] Under Kapital, the proletarian [working class] program [socialism] is precluded systemically from civic discourse. As a class, those on whom social conditions weigh heaviest can have no meaningful representation; they must be denied access to effective recourse within the political system. Socialism must not challenge Kapital.
3] Under Kapital, the imposition of servitude is hides behind economic and profit imperatives driven by property-based social relations. Extra-political actions which resist Kapital’s diktats effectively will be excluded by law. Attempts to break this stranglehold will be designated a ‘breech of law and order.’ Continued resistance results in charges of insurrection and treason.
4] The economic consequences of the Battle of Blair Mountain continue to this day. The defeat of workers resulted in deepened assaults on a weakened proletariat. Social destitution and deprivation in Appalachia today are the direct result of the defeat on Blair Mountain, and the subsequent history.
5] The political consequences of the Battle of Blair Mountain were that hundreds were charged with insurrection. By this the state acknowledged that the raising of the miners’ army and its subsequent actions had the character of an insurrection. Hundreds were also charged with murder and treason. This precedent will apply again.
Socialism and Kapital are antithetical as are ruling class and proletarian class interests. Kapital has no choice but to war against socialism. I got rapped by Just Jim NC TttH over this. I said that XXJefferson51 would flip the switch. I understand that this reads as a personal attack. But the point here is that Kapital -- and its defenders -- have no choice but to war against socialism. As Trotsky said, in every generation, the bourgeoisie has but two things to offer -- fascism and revolution. The point is that no political alternative exists to those two points. You will drop the hammer or socialism, or you will drop the hammer on Kapital.
We have already seen bombers dispatched against the US population. WHEN [not 'if'] those social conditions repeat, the US will bomb its own population. And at the risk of further censor, I will say again that you will either assent to that policy, or you will dissent. All of us will.
Take care!
You have an interesting vintage and yet unfamiliar writing style. I do not see this country becoming socialistic in our life-time. Capitalism works here and abroad. But, I will hear more on the topic as it is presented.
Dear XXJefferson51:
Know what? You're right. At least, you're right on the point that the term 'progressive' should be dropped.
You say the term is fraudulent. I believe it would be more accurate to say 'meaningless.' Why do I say that?
Just this!
You've lined up half-a-dozen things you reject.
Then you attached the label 'progressive' to it.
Then you said that the term should be dropped.
Of course it should be dropped. As you present it, it's meaningless other than as it serves to list stuff you reject.
Of course that changes nothing, and it adds nothing to the conversation.
So as you say, the term should be dropped.
Whether it’s called secular progressive or godless socialism doesn’t change the fact that I oppose virtually everything that is stood for by that ideology. It has no redeeming value. I’m a proponent of constitutional limited government by representative in the form of a constitutional republic with a primarily capitalist limited social programs limited regulations Limited taxation economic model.
"Darkness and degradation." The hallmark of right wing conservatism. Note, I said 'right wing' conservatism. Conservatism is dead. Murdered by the right wing in the same manner the right wing dishonored and soiled what ever honor, chivalry and respectful historical significance of the olde Southern Antebellum Confederacy.
Thank you right wing for dirtying every American historical event.
Talk about transference Where the left accuses the right of being what it is they the left actually are.
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'Talk about transference...'
In other words, it's about making the label 'stick.' And it works both ways. That's where solipsism leads you. The alternative is to assess the material struggles of social classes respective to the system of production and distribution. But then a scientific approach is the adoption of Marxism. Can't have that! Easier to make the sloppy solipsism stick.
The word is projection.
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Well said. Oh, and welcome back.
The left brought back segregation (housing at colleges) and that does seem kind of backwards.
Sadly it goes deeper than housing at some woke universities.
Sure. I only brought up the most ironic example I could think of.
Now that the left has black people in segregated housing I guess water fountains are next.
Oohh..The left is the big bad boogie man...
Horseshit.
Now the right wing, they would sell their children for power.
Dog whistle!
Pretty much. They are trying to segregate suburbs next.
You can construct liberty and privacy for White Evangelical Christian male and female gun-ownership: Is it possible you can construct liberty and privacy in-utero for a girl or woman?
GO!
I'm curious as to who these women are that are being forced to have abortions. I personally don't know anyone that's been forced.
The writer of this article gives what I will refer to as a "glossy" fly-over explanation of what causes give girls and women the will to abort. It's all so "fluffy" and explanation lite. It does not deal with any of the seediness, desperation, and crisis of conscience a girl or woman is faced with in the moment.
But that is the point, is it not? These are meddles people who make money (and survive for decades) off the misery of others and the swell they get trying to control others not themselves.
What sounds like a high moral group of people is really some obnoxious set of bottom-feeders who crowd themselves into the heads of girls and women in an effort to get them to live an conservative-experience of obedience to group-think.
I do not have a personal position on abortion, per se. (Exception: Partial birth abortion which is outlawed now. And to be clear, I don't overrule women on even that, because it is not something I have to judge.) But, I do accept that science and medicine are helping women have the freedom they need to decide how to live, have liberty, and at a "right" time accept the responsibility of raising a child/ren.
Link to the quote @ 4.1.1 :
No one is forcing anyone to have an abortion.
You don’t believe that there are boy friends, abusive husbands, perps of statutory rape or incest who pressure the girl/ woman they got pregnant to get an abortion and make their “problem” go away?
Of course, but that is not the sense I commented in is it? I address the college industry of pro-life institutions. Of course, some conservatives 'fight' for the life of the unborn, because it is a cause that survives off donations which feeds its program officers and managers and garners repeat votes for conservatives in Washington, D.C. and in states. Cha-ching!
It is not that some conservatives don't understand privacy and liberty; it is that some conservatives don't value privacy (of the womb) and liberty for girls and women. Sarcastically, some conservatives can understand gun-toting liberties up the 'ying-yang'!
So conspicuous. So obvious. So meddlesome.
And don't get me started on the inconsistency of some conservatives supporting the 'birthin' of every baby, while they don't want girls and women to have equal pay in order to feed them properly, and don't wish black women to prosper like their white counterparts, and we can all see what is happening to black men on the streets through the hands of "state-controlled" police departments.
Just because my mother thought I should have an abortion, certainly didn't mean I had to listen to her! My son is here because I have my own mind and thoughts.
There are situations I believe abortion is a choice to make; I however, have never been in one of those situations. I still very much believe it's the individual woman's / girl's choice to abort or not.
In that situation, the dude would likely just beat the crap out of the woman if she choose to go through with the birth of the child.
Women also have the ability to flee those situations. Personally, if I'd have been raped / incest, I don't think I could go through with the pregnancy. Abusive men that women find themselves with... if the woman WANTS to abort, it's perfectly understandable to me why she would not want to bring a baby into an abusive relationship. If the woman does NOT want to abort, she can find support through women's shelters, family, friends, etc. she can get away and keep that child if she chooses to.
Indeed. It is not that some conservatives don't understand privacy and liberty; it is that some conservatives don't value privacy (of the womb) and liberty for girls and women.
Let me show you just how inconsistent logically and LITTLE emotionally some conservatives care about children :
The Pro-life big-mouthed conservatives who SAY they want more life to "issue forth" as a statement from man to God's creation; did not do anything for the dead children of New Town's Sandy Hook Elementary (2012).
Those surviving children in the picture above are nearly grown in 2021, are they still tramautized?
And what of assault weapons? Did any conservative come to their agency "for LIFE sake?
Abortion is an issue some conservatives use to get their constituents to haul out to vote and 'own the libs.'
The gun-ridden dead everywhere in our soil cry out to a deceptive congress to tell them: 'Go To Hell'!
I'm a gun advocate as well CB. Sorry if that upsets you.
Do I believe that ALL guns should require a background check for the purchaser? ABSO-FRIGGEN-LOUTELY!
Do I believe that gun owners should be held responsible when someone that is NOT registered to that gun uses it? ABSO-FRIGGEN-LOUTELY!
Do I believe that current laws for gun ownership need to be upheld? ABSO-FRIGGEN-LOUTELY!
Do I believe that gun owners should be held to a high level of responsibility overall? ABSO-FRIGGEN-LOUTELY!
Do I believe that gun owners should be required to take classes to own said guns? ABSO-FRIGGEN-LOUTELY!
I took classes to obtain my concealed pistol license (CPL), which requires federal-level background checks. I didn't purchase any guns until after I took those CPL courses. My son (who is currently 12) has taken firearm safety courses in Scouts. My husband is an Eagle Scout and a CPL holder. My 18 year old daughter took a class at the local gun range with me present... she was 14 when she took that course. Neither of my children have been curious about firearms, because they've been taught respect for them. They were taught that they're not toys. I personally don't care what others think of our methods; they work for us. Any time someone brings their child over to hang out with one of mine [at least my son now, because 18 year old's don't generally have parents meet], I tell the parent that we have pistols in our home, but that they're in safes [and they are] that only my husband and I have access to. I have yet to find a parent that has an issue with that, but they still have a right to know. That's part of gun ownership responsibility.
The problem with children getting a hold of guns is usually on the adults in whatever home they're in... they leave them in places where kids can get to them. Most of the mass shootings, like in Sandy Hook, a KID [yes, he was 20, but he was a KID] had access to firearms that he shouldn't have had access to in the first place. Moreover, as a parent with 3 kids in the house, a 19 [nearly 20] year old, an 18 year old, and a 12 [nearly 13] year old in the house, if I notice one of them is acting differently than usual or seems down in any way, I TALK TO THEM. I ask if they need someone to talk to and if they don't want to talk to me, I ask them if they want to talk to a professional. Most of the time, they talk to me... they talk to me about EVERYTHING, sometimes it's stuff that's a bit difficult to hear as a parent, but nonetheless, at least I know.
It does NOT upset me. I am glad you are a responsible gun owner. I applaud you. However, that was not the point of my comment. Abortion privacy and liberty are.
Pro-Life groups, by extrapolation, present tense, support the gun deaths at New Town, Connecticut's Sandy Hook Elementary through conservative lawmakers in Congress who do absolutely nothing to limit guns in this country. Indeed, some states, red states specifically, are 'throwing their doors' open to no limits on who/what/how many guns can enter. Pro-life groups are mute!
So when Pro-life groups SAY they care about the life of a child, I call: Bull Patty! Sandy Hook Elementary School @4.1.8 clearly establishes they do not. Pro-life groups both intentionally and unintentionally (meaning there are some well-meaning people who participate in the 'program' there are always are in this types of programs) use abortion as a wedge-issue to raise funds and help conservatives win so-called, "culture wars."
Thanks. And I agree.
I’m just glad that a federal judge has finally overturned my states 32 year old certain rifle ban
I think complete banning is simply naïve. Rifles owned by US citizens are used mainly for hunting. I am someone that thinks there should be background checks should be in place for rifles, just as they are for pistols. Honestly, I think I'm in the majority for that thought. I don't see why someone needs the ability to walk into any place that sells a rifle or shotgun and purchase it that specific day. Once I did my CPL courses, it was very easy to purchase a pistol, because all of the necessary background checks were performed and that CPL proved that fact. My fingerprints are on file with the Federal Government, State Government, and Local Government [all for different reasons]. Federal was because I worked for a DoD contractor. State was for my CPL. Local was for being a chaperone for my kid's school activities... I believe that they had the ability to see that I'd had other checks as well, but didn't dig deeper for that.
I figure that if one has nothing to hide, there should be no reason that a person would not want background checks on ALL firearms.
If they only had a brain
Hyperbole and fear-mongering. Why don't these silly-ass writers stop penning fear and loathing stories (of Others-ness) for why the U. S. A. can't cope, and get on with a positive set of outcomes supporting and helping lift all the citizenry? It has been decided that we can accomplish more working together than we can pulling out whole segments of the citizenry for bigotry, prejudice, and political demonization.
We waste dollars and sense having these stupid, pathetic, societal and cultural wars. Our frenemies are eating our national lunch! And, here we are the greatest national experiment in democracy playing lying games, and games of delusion to fill the time.
Weak, weak, weak.
Because this is a certain group of people who want to rule everyone else. They use fear and loathing and perhaps the feeling of being less than others to control the lemmings of the group.
You perfectly describe the bi coastal secular progressive left elites.
PROJECTION
Demonize much? China and Russia do not care about such paltry distinctions. They are busy, frying, baking, and broiling our fish for us! It will serve me, you, and us all if we get our house in order, because 'sitting' around glaring in each others' eyes and faces, ain't going to help fix infrastructure, power grids, roads, or our ability to stay on the world wide web.
Should the U.S.A keep this kind of lying, losing, stupe up with internal hemorrhaging - we will ass around long enough for India to get its house in order and realize it has a billion plus citizens to join "other interests" who show success and then goes Pakistan: Then, where will we be as a nation?
Europe U. and Israel can only do so much to support us. And if we fracture this nation through a construct of irreconcilable differences - it's game over. The U.S.A. is only worth something when it is together.