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Internal Documents Further Contradict Fauci's 'Gain-of-Function' Research Denials

  
Via:  Just Jim NC TttH  •  5 years ago  •  39 comments

By:   Caroline Downey (MSN)

Internal Documents Further Contradict Fauci's 'Gain-of-Function' Research Denials
A grant proposal submitted by EcoHealth Alliance suggests the NIH was funding gain-of-function research in Wuhan.

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Newly released documents appear to contradict Dr. Anthony Fauci's repeated claims that the NIH did not fund gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses at the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV).

© Stefani Reynolds/Reuters Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, speaks during a hearing at the Dirksen Senate Office Building in Washington, D.C., July 20, 2021.

The internal documents detail the work of EcoHealth Alliance, an American research non-profit which used NIH funding to research novel bat coronaviruses at the Wuhan lab. Among the documents, which were obtained by The Interceptthrough a Freedom of Information Act request, is a previously unpublished EcoHealth Alliance grant proposal filed with the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease, which is run by Fauci.

The proposal requests $3.1 million for a project titled "Understanding the Risk of Bat Coronavirus Emergence," which involved screening thousands of lab workers for novel bat coronaviruses. The grant was awarded for five years, from 2014 to 2019, and was subsequently renewed before being suspended by the Trump administration. The proposal directs $599,000 of the total grant to the Wuhan Institute of Virology for research designed to make the viruses more dangerous and/or infectious — and its author acknowledged the danger associated with such work.

"Fieldwork involves the highest risk of exposure to SARS or other CoVs, while working in caves with high bat density overhead and the potential for fecal dust to be inhaled," it read.

After reviewing the documents, Gary Ruskin, executive director of a group probing COVID's origins called U.S. Right to Know, told the Intercept that the grant was a "road map to the high-risk research that could have led to the current pandemic."

Fauci has repeatedly insisted during his Senate testimony that the research being funded by the NIH at the WIV did not qualify as "gain-of-function" under the NIH's current definition. But critics, including Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky, have accused Fauci of playing semantic games by excluding research which makes bat coronaviruses more transmissible — the commonly accepted definition of "gain-of-function" — from his more convenient definition.

Dr. Richard Ebright, biosafety expert and professor of chemistry and chemical biology at Rutgers University, has also disputed Fauci's claims. Primarily, he has rebutted Fauci's chief declaration that the NIH "has not ever and does not now fund gain of function research in the Wuhan Institute of Virology [WIV]" as "demonstrably false."

Ebright told National Review that the NIH-financed work at the WIV "epitomizes" the definition of gain-of-function research, which involves working with "enhanced potential pandemic pathogen (PPP)" or those pathogens "resulting from the enhancement of the transmissibility and/or virulence of a pathogen."

The Wuhan lab's program qualified as gain-of-function research because it artificially engineered novel SARS-related coronaviruses to make them more transmissible and dangerous to humans, the breeding ground for accident, Ebright said.

Following the FOIA release secured by the Intercept, Ebright doubled down on his repudiation of Fauci, confirming that the NIH did conduct gain-of-function research during the five-year period in question.

"The materials show that the 2014 and 2019 NIH grants to EcoHealth with subcontracts to WIV funded gain-of-function research as defined in federal policies in effect in 2014-2017 and potential pandemic pathogen enhancement as defined in federal policies in effect in 2017-present," Ebright tweeted.


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Just Jim NC TttH
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1  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH    5 years ago

...............not a good look at all

 
 
 
Sunshine
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1.1  Sunshine  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1    5 years ago

Egg on your face isn't appealing

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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1.1.1  Jasper2529  replied to  Sunshine @1.1    5 years ago

It's more like a loaded 3 egg omelet with hefty sides of home fries, grits, gravy, and toast thrown in his lying, hypocritical face!

 
 
 
goose is back
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1.2  goose is back  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1    5 years ago

Fauci should be charged for lying to Congress. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  goose is back @1.2    5 years ago

It’s no wonder Joe Biden canceled an independent investigation of COVID-19 origins… every time we see documents it becomes more and more obvious the pro-Biden public health bureaucracy misled Americans about ‘gain of function’ research in the Wuhan lab

 
 
 
goose is back
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1.2.2  goose is back  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.1    5 years ago

600k + dead, thank you Dr. Fauci.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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1.2.3  Jasper2529  replied to  goose is back @1.2    5 years ago
Fauci should be charged for lying to Congress. 

He'll have to take a number and get in line. There are quite a number of other Democrats ahead of him who've lied to Congress (and the FBI) who still haven't been charged.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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1.2.4  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  goose is back @1.2.2    5 years ago

Good grief - thank you Fauci?  You guys use any situation to attack anyone and deflect blame away from your own.  Donald Trump doesn’t even try to hide the fact that he knew how transmissible covid was as he was actively downplaying it and fighting against the only means we had to reduce the spread, but you seem to think Dr. Fauci is solely responsible for all covid death.  If there were no gain of function research by the US and terrorists were to clandestinely develop their own bio weapons that we were then that much less prepared for, you would then blame Fauci for all the resulting deaths from the lack of this research.  

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.2.5  Greg Jones  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @1.2.4    5 years ago

It was the Democrats who downplayed the threat, not Trump.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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1.2.6  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Greg Jones @1.2.5    5 years ago

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Just Jim NC TttH
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1.2.7  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @1.2.6    5 years ago

54 second mark 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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1.2.8  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2.7    5 years ago

Are you seriously comparing a Pelosi visit to Chinatown on an unspecified date to the POTUS publicly downplaying covid on national television right after learning how deadly and transmissible it is?  Seriously?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.2.9  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @1.2.8    5 years ago

February 24, 2020

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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1.2.10  Jasper2529  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @1.2.4    5 years ago
 Donald Trump doesn’t even try to hide the fact that he knew how transmissible covid was as he was actively downplaying it

Trump was advised by Fauci, Birx, etc. Remember these Fauci flip-flop gems? 

In March 2020, as the pandemic began, Anthony Fauci, the chief medical adviser to the president of the United States,  explained in a   60 Minutes   interview  that he felt community use of masks was unnecessary . A few months later,  he argued  that his statements were not meant to imply that he felt the data to justify the use of cloth masks was insufficient. Rather, he said, had he endorsed mask wearing (of any kind), mass panic would ensue and lead to a surgical and N95 mask shortage among health care workers, who needed the masks more. Yet,  emails from a Freedom of Information Act request  revealed that Fauci privately gave the same advice—against mask use—suggesting it was not merely his outward stance to the broader public. Later in 2020, Fauci participated in a second noble lie. In December, he explained   in a phone interview with then–New York Times   reporter Donald McNeil   that   he had been moving the target estimate for herd immunity based in part on emerging studies. But he also said:

When polls said only about half of all Americans would take a vaccine, I was saying herd immunity would take 70 to 75 percent. Then, when newer surveys said 60 percent or more would take it, I thought, “I can nudge this up a bit,” so I went to 80, 85.

In his own words, he “nudged” his target range for herd immunity to promote vaccine uptake. Aside from whether it’s right to tell noble lies in the service of eliciting socially beneficial behavior, there is also the question of efficacy. Experts on infectious diseases are not necessarily experts on social behavior. Even if we accept Fauci’s claim that he downplayed the importance of wearing masks because he didn’t want to unleash a run on masks, we might wonder how he knew that his noble lie would be more effective than simply being honest and explaining to people why it was important to assure an adequate supply of masks for medical workers.

 
 
 
Sunshine
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1.2.11  Sunshine  replied to  Greg Jones @1.2.5    5 years ago
Here are five times de Blasio and Barbot downplayed the  virus   after the president  announced  in January restrictions on foreign nationals who have recently been to China from entering the U.S.

De Blasio, NYC Officials Downplayed COVID-19 Threat After Trump Restricted Travel to China. Here Are 5 Examples. (dailysignal.com)

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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1.2.12  Jasper2529  replied to  Jasper2529 @1.2.10    5 years ago
  Public health messaging is predicated on trust, which overcomes the enormous complexity of the scientific literature, creating an opportunity to communicate initiatives effectively. Still, violation of this trust renders the communication unreliable. When trust is shattered, messaging is no longer clear and straightforward, and instead results in the audience trying to reverse-engineer the statement based on their view of the speaker’s intent. Simply put, noble lies can rob confidence from the public, leading to confusion, a loss of credibility, conspiracy theories, and obfuscated policy. Noble lies are a trap. We cannot predict the public’s behavior, and loss of trust is devastating. The general population is far too skeptical to blindly follow the advice of experts, and far too intelligent to be easily duped.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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1.2.13  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2.9    5 years ago

The first strong scientific study backed by the U.S. government that showed the virus might spread through the air came on March 18, 2020.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.2.14  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @1.2.13    5 years ago

And Trump initiated a travel ban in January.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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1.2.15  Jasper2529  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2.14    5 years ago
And Trump initiated a travel ban in January.

Pelosi and her pals called him a xenophobe and racist for doing it.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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1.2.16  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2.14    5 years ago

It’s like playing whack a mole with you guys.  One irrelevant claim pops up the second another is squashed.  I’m starting to wonder if you aren’t actually a Russian bot.

 
 
 
goose is back
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1.2.17  goose is back  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @1.2.16    5 years ago
I’m starting to wonder if you aren’t actually a Russian bot.

You get schooled and you bring out, "RUSSIA".

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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1.2.20  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  goose is back @1.2.17    5 years ago

Which school would that be?  The one with the short busses?  The virus was already raging in the US and Trump responds by banning Chinese visitors while simultaneously doing everything else wrong domestically to prevent the spread of the already ubiquitous virus?

 
 
 
goose is back
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1.2.21  goose is back  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @1.2.20    5 years ago
The virus was already raging in the US

Yes, it was and Fauci, claimed it wouldn't be a problem. 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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1.2.22  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  goose is back @1.2.21    5 years ago

This is exactly what I’m talking about, comrade.  Whack!

 
 
 
goose is back
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1.2.23  goose is back  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.19    5 years ago
He has never lied to Congress.

What is your definition of a lie..

$599,000 of the total grant to the Wuhan Institute of Virology for research designed to make the viruses more dangerous and/or infectious — and its author acknowledged the danger associated with such work.

Do you think this is "gain of function"?

 
 
 
goose is back
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1.2.24  goose is back  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @1.2.22    5 years ago
This is exactly what I’m talking

So you agree Fauci was the problem from the start.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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1.2.25  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  goose is back @1.2.24    5 years ago

It’s unlikely that there is anything in this reality that you and I would agree on.  Your goose is far too gone for rational agreement.

 
 
 
goose is back
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1.2.26  goose is back  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @1.2.25    5 years ago
It’s unlikely that there is anything in this reality

I feel, ya.  I know it must be hard to defend the guy who said it wouldn't be a problem and may have actually caused the problem to begin with, YIKES!!!!! 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2  Vic Eldred    5 years ago

The man had a secret. He played his cards well.....until he got caught!

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    5 years ago

His apologists should be arriving any time now

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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2.2  Jasper2529  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    5 years ago
He played his cards well.....

He sure did, and became a rock star in the process.

until he got caught!

A sad end to a long, shady career.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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2.2.2  Jasper2529  replied to  Tessylo @2.2.1    5 years ago
How is it that Dr. Fauci, a respected, learned, intelligent physician has had a 'long shady career?'????????????????????? Makes no sense.  

Of course it wouldn't make sense unless one has read about his involvement, mistakes, and failures with AIDS, anthrax etc ... despite having been given enormous tax-payer funded budgets since 1984.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3  Sean Treacy    5 years ago

Fauci is a politician. You don't rise that high in a bureaucracy by being a straight shooter.  Just like any bureaucrat, he's protecting his agency and lying is just one of those things you do. Ask Jim Comey. 

 
 

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