Biden's approval rating has fallen. Pollsters say there's one way to bounce back.

  
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By:   Sahil Kapur (MSN)

Biden's approval rating has fallen. Pollsters say there's one way to bounce back.
"Voters are looking for a return on what they were promised," said Jeff Horwitt, a Democratic pollster who co-conducts the NBC News poll.

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WASHINGTON — The honeymoon is over. And the fading Republican support was inevitable. But Democrats are alarmed by President Joe Biden's decline in job approval among groups central to his base — most notably Black voters, Hispanics and women.

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Despite the slip in his job approval, Biden's economic agenda remains popular in the same polls, which find that voters support his plans to overhaul U.S. infrastructure, expand Medicare, fund universal pre-K and put money into clean energy.

But the bills have been caught up in a complex legislative logjam for months. Since late June, Biden's approval rating has fallen from 52.7 percent to 44.5 percent in the FiveThirtyEight average, with disapproval outstripping approval since the end of August.

Democratic pollsters say Biden needs Congress to pass his agenda for his approval to recover.

"Voters are looking for a return on what they were promised," said Jeff Horwitt, a Democratic pollster who co-conducts the NBC News poll.

Horwitt said the sausage-making process is uninspiring to voters, who just want to know whether they're going to be able to afford child care and make ends meet.

"It's messy. And it's part of the process of making laws. But having meetings and disagreements — that's not making people feel great about the president and the job he's doing," Horwitt said. "The things promised in the campaign — not a lot of them have turned into law yet. The good news for Democrats is that there's time. But you need to have some wins."

Negative and positive loops


The shifts among Biden's base have been stark.

A Pew Research Center poll found that from July to September, Biden's approval rating fell by 18 points among Black voters, 16 points among Hispanics and 12 points among women. He won all three groups by lopsided margins last year. Among voters who identify as Democrats or lean Democratic, his approval fell by 13 points, to 75 percent.

Among independents, another key group that powered him into the White House, Biden's approval fell from 54 percent to 42 percent over the summer.

But the same poll found 2-to-1 national support for the two pillars of Biden's agenda: the $1.2 trillion infrastructure bill and the $3.5 trillion package of economic and social programs.

Bill McInturff, the Republican pollster to co-conducts the NBC News poll, said Biden is stuck in a "negative loop" of setbacks and bad stories about them, from the Afghanistan withdrawal to missed deadlines on Capitol Hill to Democratic infighting over his domestic agenda.

"We are starting to see softening among core Democratic constituencies," he said. "The core Democrats that helped elect him were not only looking for an alternative to [Donald] Trump. They were looking for very significant policy change."

McInturff said passing the two bills would brighten the outlook for Biden, particularly with his base.

"Then we get into a positive loop: Democrats were able to solve their infighting. Democrats got something done, a major accomplishment. There's so much money in these bills, and there's so many things core Democratic constituencies want," he said.

But McInturff said the elasticity is limited in this polarized era, with higher intensity of presidential support and opposition between the parties.

Cornell Belcher, a pollster who worked for former President Barack Obama, said Biden has been through "a tumultuous period," and he questioned whether passing his economic proposals would be enough to win back lost Democratic support.

"There are issues with key components of his coalition," he said.

'The ghost of 2010'


Belcher said many voters were energized more by issues around voting rights and justice in policing, which have faded in Washington because of Democrats' inability to overcome or pierce the 60-vote filibuster in the Senate, where they have 50 votes, to advance those priorities.

"Democrats are trying to put points up on a board passing legislation like Build Back Better and infrastructure, which are solid and popular pieces of legislation," Belcher said. "But those kids and those young people, those progressives who gave Democrats a majority and gave Joe Biden a majority in this country — they were not marching for potholes."

In the 2020 election, Biden won 92 percent of Black voters. His approval among Black voters is just 67 percent in a recent Pew Research poll, 66 percent in a YouGov poll and 66 percent in a Quinnipiac University poll.

Belcher said he hears "the ghost of 2010," referring to the first Obama midterm election, when Democrats were unenthusiastic and the party suffered a beating.

"In a nutshell, if Democrats are not giving their base something to be energized so we can mobilize and energize them around, we're going to have 2010 and 2014 again," he said.

Horwitt took a more optimistic view, arguing that Biden is facing "a low point" in the polls and will bounce back as long as he gets his economic agenda passed.

That raises the stakes as Democrats eye difficult decisions to resolve a host of differences between competing factions within the party over price tag, scope and policy.

"If these bills fail, that's a huge problem," he said. "If you can't pass these bills and demonstrate that you can deliver, then the rationale for voting Democrat is really called into question."

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Just Jim NC TttH
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1  seeder  Just Jim NC TttH    2 months ago

Pass the $1.5T REAL infrastructure bill and whittle the hell out of the $3.5T gimme bill down to the approximate same level. Listen to Manchin.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2  Tessylo    2 months ago

President Biden is doing just fine.  We don't regret our votes for him.  

Don't listen to Manchin.  He's a DINO.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Tessylo @2    2 months ago

Biden's got nothing accomplished in his first year. Is that your definition of "just fine".

It appears that left wing suck ups can't handle the truth about Biden's ongoing blunders and their failing policies.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1    2 months ago
Is that your definition of "just fine".

I think their definition of "just fine" includes murdering hundreds of civilians and 13 service members, abandoning US Citizens, an abysmal economy, even worse job numbers, rampant illegal immigration...

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
2.1.2  Ozzwald  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1    2 months ago
Biden's got nothing accomplished in his first year. Is that your definition of "just fine".

How many people are vaccinated?  How many lives have been saved with those vaccinations?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Tessylo @2    2 months ago

So you'll have no problem in listing his successes since taking office then.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3  Nerm_L    2 months ago

Well, if we focus attention on the one, and only one, Democrat priority of Build Back Better as the way for Biden's approval to recover then the delusion runs deep.  It's necessary to completely and totally ignore the foreign policy botch ups that will eventually be a butt biter.  It's necessary to ignore domestic policy botch ups on immigration, supply chain vulnerability, a swirl of 'seat of the pants' pandemic responses, and a souring economy that looks poised to bring down the global economy.

So, if we completely ignore everything else then Joe Biden is doing fine.  Guess sweeping as much as possible under the rug works for Biden and Democrats.  Apparently Democrats are hoping that all that stuff will stay under the rug until Republicans take charge again.  But that strategy depends on Republicans winning the next few election cycles.  Democrats appear to be planning to lose so they can blame Republicans.  Democrat's one term President is following that play book.

 
 
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