Biden And The Media Have Failed The American People On The Pandemic And On Inflation

  
Via:  XXJefferson51  •  2 months ago  •  69 comments

By:   John Ransom

Biden And The Media Have Failed The American People On The Pandemic And On Inflation
So, at what point will the press admit that Biden has everything he needs to fight the pandemic and fix the supply chain, but that he’s not up to the job despite nearly two years of promises that he can do better? On Tuesday, the New York Times published a hit piece decrying the GOP attempts to offer an alternative view of how to fight the pandemic – under the rules made by the Constitution.

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Biden and the media have failed we the people.  They have lied to us about the pandemic and inflation.  


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Biden And The Media Have Failed The American People On The Pandemic And On Inflation



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On inflation, pandemic media Biden and media have failed

On Tuesday, Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell testified in front of Congress saying that the inflation that the country has witnessed since President Joe Biden started printing money isn’t transitory.

“I think it’s probably a good time to retire that word and try to explain more clearly what we mean,” Powell told members of Senate Banking Committee according to the New York Post.

Yes, that would be good. Explain away.

Because Accuracy in Media has been regularly calling out the press-and the White House-for laying the blame on rising prices on “corporations,” when in fact, it’s the Biden administration’s own failings that have caused the inflation.

Later in the day, Biden Press Secretary Jen Psaki said that “our supply chain issues and higher prices are rooted in the pandemic, which will subside as we get it under control – which is, of course, our number one priority, is getting the pandemic under control.”

Most of the political effort by the Biden White House and its media minions has been spent on fanciful social gadgets, jawboning about White Supremacy, climate change, ignoring immigration and covering itself for screwing up Afghanistan.

And telling us inflation is transitory, as Accuracy in Media previously reported.

So, at what point will the press admit that Biden has everything he needs to fight the pandemic and fix the supply chain, but that he’s not up to the job despite nearly two years of promises that he can do better?

On Tuesday, the New York Times published a hit piece decrying the GOP attempts to offer an alternative view of how to fight the pandemic – under the rules made by the Constitution.

The Times says that the GOP wants it both ways: They don’t want COVID mandates, but they blame Biden for the increase in COVID cases.

One would think that the press, after calling President Donald Trump a dictator for nearly 60 months, might understand what a dictator looks like, but if not, here’s a good reminder:

“There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him,” said author Robert Heinlein.

That’s why when dealing with issues of public health and safety in the U.S., it’s incumbent upon our leaders to always tell the truth if they wish to maintain credibility.

When Biden claimed that if you got a COVID vaccination you wouldn’t get sick, he hurt himself in his campaign to get the American people to trust his urgent warnings to get vaccinated.

They knew it was a lie, even then.

When President Joe Biden told Americans that he wouldn’t trust a vaccine developed under Trump, the very vaccine he rushed to use once he was elected, he undercut his argument.

They knew it was just politics, even then.

So now, he wants Americans to take the vaccine just because he said so?

We all know that’s a policy failure even now, and it will be better for everyone if the press just says so.


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XXJefferson51
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1  seeder  XXJefferson51    2 months ago
ealth and safety in the U.S., it’s incumbent upon our leaders to always tell the truth if they wish to maintain credibility.

When Biden claimed that if you got a COVID vaccination you wouldn’t get sick, he hurt himself in his campaign to get the American people to trust his urgent warnings to get vaccinated.

They knew it was a lie, even then.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2  Vic Eldred    2 months ago

Let's see, over 366,470Americans have died from COVID-19 since President Joe Biden took office. That's more than all the Americans who died in the entire year of 2020
and Biden has the benefit of the Trump vaccine!

Since Biden became president inflation has risen to over 6%.

Since Biden became president the border has been completely opened, with the remaining building material for the border wall rotting in the sun.

Since Biden has become president the energy independence that America achieved has been halted.

Since Biden has become president crime has risen in major US cities with many setting new homicide rates.

Is it an Epic fail?  The sad part is that it may have been part of the goal,

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    2 months ago
Let's see, over 366,470Americans have died from COVID-19 since President Joe Biden took office. That's more than all the Americans who died in the entire year of 2020and Biden has the benefit of the Trump vaccine!

What, exactly, did Biden do or not do that caused these deaths?   That is, other than being PotUS, how is Biden to blame?

For the rest of your points I can see how someone could make some semblance of an argument.   But this first one seems to be pure partisan emotion.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  TᵢG @2.1    2 months ago
?   That is, other than being PotUS, how is Biden to blame?

Did you ask Biden how Trump was to blame for the 220,000 covid deaths as of last October? 

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.1.2  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.1    2 months ago
Did you ask Biden how Trump was to blame for the 220,000 covid deaths as of last October? 

What does that have to do with my question?    I did not mention Trump in my question so clearly I did not even hint that he was to blame for the 220,000 deaths under his watch.

What, exactly, did Biden do or not do that caused these deaths?  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.2    2 months ago
I did not mention Trump in my question so clearly I did not even hint that he was to blame for the 220,000 deaths under his watch.

It's great you've seen the light.  This site has  been chalk full of histrionic left-wingers calling Trump a murderer (and much worse than that) for 18 months and I don't recall you calling them out for "pure partisan emotion".  

But Biden claimed Trump should not be President because of 220,000 Covid deaths.   Shouldn't Biden live up to the standard he held Trump to and resign over the Covid  deaths under his watch? 

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.1.4  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.3    2 months ago

What, exactly, did Biden do or not do that caused these deaths?  

This site has  been chalk full of histrionic left-wingers calling Trump a murderer (and much worse than that) for 18 months ...

Apparently you agree that blaming the sitting PotUS for ALL deaths needs a supporting argument (facts and logic).    Thus, logically, you would expect Vic to back up his claim that these deaths are Biden's fault.

So why did you drop into this thread and start deflecting to Trump?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.5  Sean Treacy  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.4    2 months ago
u drop into this thread and start deflecting to Trump?

I would expect anyone, including Joe Biden, who blamed Trump for the deaths in 2020 to blame Biden the deaths since he's been sworn in.  That would be a consistent position.  

Why doesn't it  bother you that Biden, most of the MSM and all the  hysterical left wingers on this site blamed Trump for the  deaths in 2020  but not not Biden for the deaths that have since ? Should not Biden and the media be expected to use facts and logic too? 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.6  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.5    2 months ago
I would expect anyone, including Joe Biden, who blamed Trump for the deaths in 2020 to blame Biden the deaths since he's been sworn in. 

I asked: 

What, exactly, did Biden do or not do that caused these deaths?  

Interesting that you absolutely refuse to answer this question yet it is the one on which you interjected.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.1.7  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.5    2 months ago
Why doesn't it  bother you that Biden, most of the MSM and all the  hysterical left wingers on this site blamed Trump for the  deaths in 2020  but not not Biden for the deaths that have since ? Should not Biden and the media be expected to use facts and logic too? 

I never said it does not 'bother' me; I did not even mention it.   That came from you.   Further, I understand how extremists behave so it does not surprise me.   And of course everyone should use facts and logic.

Try doing that now and answer my question.

 
 
 
Nowhere Man
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2.1.8  Nowhere Man  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.6    2 months ago
Clearly you refuse to answer and insist on making this about me.  

He's not making it about you, YOU are making it about you... Easy way to bail out when confronted with a fact...

Fact being is Biden couldn't do anything about it, but YOU do not want to acknowledge that T Rump couldn't either... So deflect away from the real issue and make it about your question alone...

Your making it about you...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.9  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.5    2 months ago

Donald Trump played down the pandemic because he didnt want it to interfere with his re-election. 

Anyone who is not an idiot knows that. The conservative "non-idiots" pretend otherwise.

Nothing on earth can rehabilitate Trump's image as regards the coronavirus. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.10  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.3    2 months ago

Well stated.  You are exactly right.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.11  Vic Eldred  replied to  TᵢG @2.1    2 months ago
What, exactly, did Biden do or not do that caused these deaths?   That is, other than being PotUS, how is Biden to blame?

A year ago you weren't asking such questions. Back then you were telling us that the President takes the credit/blame for whatever happens under his watch.


pure partisan emotion.

Um-hum!

 
 
 
JBB
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2.1.12  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.11    2 months ago

That is not true of TiG. He did not blame Trump for everything that happened under his watch...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.13  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @2.1.12    2 months ago

TiG said exactly what I said. Now he goes out of his way to point out that stupid Biden didn't kill anyone. That is debatable btw. Biden is a race baiter. Six white people were recently killed by a radicalized black nationalist.  Another 62 were seriously injured. Biden implied that Kyle Rittenhouse was a "white supremacist." After the verdict he claimed to go along with the jury, but still voiced displeasure with the outcome. Those killings came in Wisconsin, right after the verdict. I blame everyone who has been using that word and Biden is # 1.

As for covid, maybe Biden should have worked at keeping his campaign promise instead of politicizing it.

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1.14  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.13    2 months ago

put your sheet away. it isn't needed here anymore.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.15  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.13    2 months ago

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TᵢG
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2.1.16  TᵢG  replied to  Nowhere Man @2.1.8    2 months ago
Fact being is Biden couldn't do anything about it, but YOU do not want to acknowledge that T Rump couldn't either... So deflect away from the real issue and make it about your question alone...

Bullshit NWM, pay attention:

TiG @2.1.2 ☞I did not mention Trump in my question so clearly I did not even hint that he was to blame for the 220,000 deaths under his watch.

Trump had nothing whatsoever to do with my question.   I have not blamed him for those deaths and I am asking what, exactly, did Biden do or not do that caused these deaths?  

Instead of just answering a direct question you and Sean engage in deflection games.   You deflect and then pretend as though I am deflecting.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.1.17  TᵢG  replied to  JBB @2.1.12    2 months ago

True.   But that does not even matter.   Instead of answering a direct question we see childish, dishonest games being played.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.1.18  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.13    2 months ago
TiG said exactly what I said.

A blatant lie.

Now he goes out of his way to point out that stupid Biden didn't kill anyone.

A second blatant lie.


You stated:

Vic @2Let's see, over 366,470Americans have died from COVID-19 since President Joe Biden took office. That's more than all the Americans who died in the entire year of 2020 and Biden has the benefit of the Trump vaccine!

I asked:

TiG @2.1What, exactly, did Biden do or not do that caused these deaths?   That is, other than being PotUS, how is Biden to blame?

You and your cohorts cannot bring yourselves to honestly answer an obvious question that follows directly from your statement.     Instead you engage in childish tactics to deflect.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.1.19  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.11    2 months ago
A year ago you weren't asking such questions.

Bullshit.   Further, I am not the topic Vic.  

Back then you were telling us that the President takes the credit/blame for whatever happens under his watch.

Good grief man, pay attention to what I am writing.    Look at my very first comment to you.

TiG @2.1 - What, exactly, did Biden do or not do that caused these deaths?   That is, other than being PotUS, how is Biden to blame?

The PotUS always gets credit / blame for what happens under his watch.   That does not mean that the credit / blame is warranted.   Get it?

I am asking you what, exactly, did Biden do or not do that caused these deaths?  

Try to answer the question without these ridiculous games.

 
 
 
Kavika
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2.1.20  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.13    2 months ago
As for covid, maybe Biden should have worked at keeping his campaign promise instead of politicizing it.

He has kept his promise, it's not his fault that the fracking morons refuse to get the vaccine. He issues a mandate and the morons are now fighting the mandate. 

So it looks like the morons, anti-vaxxers are the problem along with many of the governors of red states. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.21  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.16    2 months ago

They aren’t pretending.  You are deflecting 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.22  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Kavika @2.1.20    2 months ago

One does not have to be anti vax in order to oppose federal mandates.  We all know that.  As to the great and awesome red states, they are keeping our economy intact.  I’m glad that we have these red states keeping our freedoms intact. 

 
 
 
Gazoo
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2.1.23  Gazoo  replied to  Kavika @2.1.20    2 months ago

How about all the unvaccinated illegals your hero is allowing into the country? Are they “morons” too? Aren’t they part of the problem too? And wouldn’t it be racist in some circles to say that? Lol. 

and wouldn’t dementia boy be a moron for allowing unvaccinated illegals into the country during a fucking pandemic? 

it’s amazing how some bag on unvaccinated Americans while giving unvaccinated illegals and bumbling biden, their enabler, a free pass. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.1.24  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.21    2 months ago

What, specifically, am I deflecting from?   I asked a question that nobody will answer and instead get deflections.  

You clearly do not know what you are talking about.   Question asked, deflections posed instead of an answer.   Simple.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.25  TᵢG  replied to  Gazoo @2.1.23    2 months ago
How about all the unvaccinated illegals your hero is allowing into the country?

Well finally someone shows up to (maybe accidentally) partially answer the question I asked Vic.    Let's see if this the answer Vic would give as to the actions Biden took which cause him to be at fault for all coronavirus deaths while PotUS.

 
 
 
Kavika
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2.1.26  Kavika   replied to  Gazoo @2.1.23    2 months ago
How about all the unvaccinated illegals your hero is allowing into the country? Are they “morons” too? Aren’t they part of the problem too? And wouldn’t it be racist in some circles to say that? Lol. 

Biden is not my hero, [Deleted.] If they are unvaccinated they are part of the problem, as you can see I didn't say they weren't nor did I specify that group since governors and groups within the US, legally are a much much larger group. 

it’s amazing these some bag on unvaccinated Americans while giving unvaccinated illegals and bumbling biden, their enabler, a free pass. 

What is really amazing is that some give the legal morons and governors and their enablers a free pass. 

 
 
 
Gazoo
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2.1.27  Gazoo  replied to  Kavika @2.1.26    2 months ago

Wow, you don’t even have to make an assumption.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.28  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.11    2 months ago

Exactly!  Well put and right on.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.29  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Gazoo @2.1.23    2 months ago

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XXJefferson51
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2.1.30  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.25    2 months ago

Biden has blood on his hands for deliberately resettling known covid positive illegal people into red states.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.31  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.30    2 months ago

So why does it take you (of all people) to finally answer the question ... at least somewhat.   Why was it that Vic, Sean, NWM, et. al. could not just simply provide an answer instead of playing games?

Now, since you offered an answer, the follow up is:

Does this (taking it as truth for the moment) explain why "366,470 Americans have died from COVID-19 since President Joe Biden took office."?

 
 
 
Kavika
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2.1.32  Kavika   replied to  Gazoo @2.1.27    2 months ago

No assumption made, it's your problem if the comment is above your paygrade.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.33  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.31    2 months ago

Biden killed each and every single one of them as much as Trump did when he was President.  At least Trump didn’t let tons of illegal aliens who were covid positive into the country and then resettle them into blue communities like BiDen did with them to red ones.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.1.34  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.33    2 months ago
Biden killed each and every single one of them as much as Trump did when he was President.

You do not believe Trump killed any of them thus, logically, you do not believe Biden killed any of them. 

Your answer then is that you do not believe Biden killed any of those who died by COVID-19 by his actions or inactions.

You contradict Vic:

Vic@2Let's see, over 366,470Americans have died from COVID-19 since President Joe Biden took office. That's more than all the Americans who died in the entire year of 2020 and Biden has the benefit of the Trump vaccine!
 
 
 
cjcold
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2.1.35  cjcold  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.1    2 months ago

There are many videos of Trump denying covid.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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2.1.36  Nerm_L  replied to  TᵢG @2.1    2 months ago
What, exactly, did Biden do or not do that caused these deaths?   That is, other than being PotUS, how is Biden to blame? For the rest of your points I can see how someone could make some semblance of an argument.   But this first one seems to be pure partisan emotion.

What Biden did to cause deaths isn't the issue.  The fact that Biden is ignoring the deaths is the issue.

Biden began his Presidency with an optimistic message.  Biden promised that the vaccines would end the pandemic.  Remember when Biden regularly talked about delivery of vaccines and doses administered?  Over the last 11 months 80 pct of the total population has been vaccinated which is a remarkable achievement.

But Biden's optimistic message to Americans faded when his target wasn't met for July 4th.  Since then Biden's optimism has been replaced by finger pointing and blaming us for Biden's pie-eyed optimism failing to come to pass.  Biden is telling us that he didn't over-promise but that we under-performed.  The American people did not live up to Biden's expectations and that's the fault of the American people.

And it's not only Biden's change in message.  Before the vaccines were approved the press relied on body bag reporting with daily reports of new infections and deaths.  When the vaccines were being deployed the press switched to reporting the number of doses delivered and number of doses administered.  Now the press has stopped reporting anything other than fear and confusion.  The press is following Biden's shift from optimism to pessimism; blaming the public for unmet expectations.

The point of contention is really about Biden's shift from optimism to pessimism.  Biden was going to end the pandemic.  And now it's the American public's fault because Biden's expectation wasn't fulfilled.  In short, Biden has proven to be nothing more than another self-righteous asshole.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.1.37  TᵢG  replied to  Nerm_L @2.1.36    2 months ago
What Biden did to cause deaths isn't the issue. 

You reply to me yet ignore my question.   

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1.38  devangelical  replied to  cjcold @2.1.35    2 months ago

trump really meant over by easter next year...

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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2.1.39  Nerm_L  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.37    2 months ago
You reply to me yet ignore my question.   

Biden did not do a fucking thing to cause the deaths.  Yet the deaths happened on his watch.  So, what did Biden do to prevent the deaths?

Now let's hear the response echo Biden's finger pointing and blaming the American public.  Let's mimic Biden's self-righteous asshole approach.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.1.40  TᵢG  replied to  Nerm_L @2.1.39    2 months ago
Biden did not do a fucking thing to cause the deaths. 

Well Vic seems to think differently:

Vic@ 2 ☞ Let's see, over 366,470Americans have died from COVID-19 since President Joe Biden took office. That's more than all the Americans who died in the entire year of 2020 and Biden has the benefit of the Trump vaccine!

One could make a factual argument that Biden's failure to secure the border contributed a small  percentage to those deaths.   One could also argue, factually, that Biden's push to ensure vaccines are available and to encourage (even coerce) the unvaccinated to get vaccinated and the encouragement of all to social distance and wear masks saved lives.   Thing is, when someone makes a statement like Vic's it should not take such effort to get them to provide a supporting argument.

Yet the deaths happened on his watch.

Yes they did and as PotUS he gets the blame because he is ultimately the head of government.

So, what did Biden do to prevent the deaths?

As noted above, his push to ensure the vaccines are available and to encourage people to get vaccinated / distance / masks.   That is essentially what I would expect a PotUS to do.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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2.1.41  Nerm_L  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.40    2 months ago
As noted above, his push to ensure the vaccines are available and to encourage people to get vaccinated / distance / masks.   That is essentially what I would expect a PotUS to do.

The vaccines were not developed and tested on Biden's watch.  The vaccines were not approved on Biden's watch.  The pre-orders to expand manufacture was not done on Biden's watch.  The installation of equipment to transport the vaccines was not done on Biden's watch.  The preparation to receive and store the vaccines were not done on Biden's watch.  The requirements and training for storing and handling the vaccines was not done on Biden's watch.

Biden isn't encouraging people to do anything.  Biden is selectively imposing mandates and selectively punishing those who do not comply.  Biden attempted to take credit for everything that happened before Biden's watch.  Now Biden is blaming the public for everything that has happened on Biden's watch.  Since July 4th, Biden has abandoned any encouraging message and has shifted to threatening the public with punishment for what has happened on Biden's watch.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.42  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Nerm_L @2.1.41    2 months ago

That is a very well stated summary of what happened.  Biden took what could have made him remain popular and somehow turned it into a negative for both America and for himself.  Bidens total lack of emphasis on therapeutics to the point of virtually discouraging their use was a huge mistake that drove up the body count since he took office.  Then there’s still the ongoing non stop border super spreader event…

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.43  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.34    2 months ago

I don’t contradict what Vic wrote at all.  He’s right to state what he said.  Vic simply gave a body bag count over two periods of time.  Please show me above where he said Biden killed any of the victims.  It isn’t lost on us that when Trump was President the media kept a regular body count and then discontinued its use shortly after Biden occupied the White House.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.44  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.43    2 months ago
Please show me above where he said Biden killed any of the victims.

Read the quote:

Vic@ 2 ☞ Let's see, over 366,470Americans have died from COVID-19 since President Joe Biden took office. That's more than all the Americans who died in the entire year of 2020 and Biden has the benefit of the Trump vaccine!

On no, Vic did not mean to suggest that those deaths are Biden's fault.    Clearly he sees these deaths as someone else's fault.   256

Biden gets the blame for the deaths because he is the sitting PotUS ... that is how politics works in our nation today.   But that is irrational partisan emotion.  Just like it is irrational to blame Trump for ALL the deaths on his watch.  So when someone engages in this silly partisan crap they should come armed with an argument to support the claim.

Apparently nobody has a good argument for why ALL these deaths are Biden's fault (the result of action / inaction on his part).   So without supporting facts and reason why post such a claim?     Why post something that is blatantly incorrect?

Also note the Vic has refused to make a clarification such as:  ' I did not mean to imply that Biden is at fault '.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.1.45  TᵢG  replied to  Nerm_L @2.1.41    2 months ago
The vaccines were not developed and tested on Biden's watch.  The vaccines were not approved on Biden's watch.

Did I suggest they were?   How about just sticking to what I wrote?   Is that too much to ask?  

What does the phrase "push to ensure the vaccines are available" mean to you?   To me it means he took on the task of distributing the vaccines to the people.   You seem to think that the Biden administration did absolutely nothing ... that everything that took place after his inauguration was all automatically handled by Trump.  

Biden isn't encouraging people to do anything. 

Nerm, why do you make such clearly wrong claims?

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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2.1.46  Nerm_L  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.45    2 months ago
What does the phrase "push to ensure the vaccines are available" mean to you?   To me it means he took on the task of distributing the vaccines to the people.   You seem to think that the Biden administration did absolutely nothing ... that everything that took place after his inauguration was all automatically handled by Trump.  

I did not mention Trump.  I was only talking about Biden.  How about just sticking to what I wrote?  Is that too much to ask?

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.47  TᵢG  replied to  Nerm_L @2.1.46    2 months ago
I did not mention Trump.  I was only talking about Biden.

Blatant intellectual dishonesty.   You were speaking of Trump's administration in contrast to Biden's administration.    Here is what you wrote:

Nerm @2.1.41The vaccines were not developed and tested on Biden's watch.  The vaccines were not approved on Biden's watch.  The pre-orders to expand manufacture was not done on Biden's watch.  The installation of equipment to transport the vaccines was not done on Biden's watch.  The preparation to receive and store the vaccines were not done on Biden's watch.  The requirements and training for storing and handling the vaccines was not done on Biden's watch.

Whose watch that had all these accomplishments were you referring to here other than Trump's?   

Why play such obvious slimy intellectually dishonest games? 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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2.1.48  Nerm_L  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.47    2 months ago
Whose watch that had all these accomplishments were you referring to here other than Trump's?    Why play such obvious slimy intellectually dishonest games? 

You said in @2.1.40 "As noted above, his push to ensure the vaccines are available and to encourage people to get vaccinated / distance / masks.   That is essentially what I would expect a PotUS to do."

The steps to ensure vaccines are available didn't happen on Biden's watch.  The public was anticipating the vaccines so encouragement wasn't needed.  If you recall, demand was exceeding availability.  There was a lot of griping about holding 2nd doses in reserve, remember?  Biden didn't do anything to ensure vaccines are available or to encourage vaccination.  All of that was in place before Biden's watch.

The public had been dealing with social distancing and wearing masks for ten months before Biden's watch began.  Biden didn't bring anything new to the issue of social distancing and wearing masks.

The priority for Biden's watch was to plan on reopening the economy.  But that wasn't Biden's priority.  Biden was attempting to take credit for everything that happened before his watch.  And that was working for Biden until July 4th.  Biden had set July 4th as a turning point to begin a return to normalcy.  But the delta variant began spreading in June and Biden was slow to respond.  That's when Biden began the shift to blaming the public.

Crediting Biden for things that didn't happen on Biden's watch is intellectually dishonest.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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2.1.49  TᵢG  replied to  Nerm_L @2.1.48    2 months ago
You said in @2.1.40 "As noted above, his push to ensure the vaccines are available and to encourage people to get vaccinated / distance / masks.   That is essentially what I would expect a PotUS to do."

Yes, Nerm, that is exactly what I wrote.   So now you have quoted me after I quoted myself.  And no matter how many times we quote there still is the phrase "his push to ensure".   And what was he trying to ensure?   He was ensuring "the vaccines are available and to encourage people to get vaccinated / distance / masks.".

And that is plain as day.   Nowhere do I state that Trump did nothing nor did I state that Biden produced the vaccines, etc.   I spoke of what his administration oversaw;  his administration oversaw what took place post Jan 20th and that was ensuring that the vaccines were available to the distribution centers and ensuring the people get to same to receive their vaccinations.

Everyone knows this. 

The steps to ensure vaccines are available didn't happen on Biden's watch. 

Of course it did.   The Biden administration took over executive management from the Trump administration.   Do you think that the vaccination process continued on its own volition past the 20th of January ... that the Biden administration did nothing??  

Go play your pointless games with someone else. 

 
 
 
cjcold
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2.1.50  cjcold  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.5    2 months ago

Trump downplayed the pandemic many times on TV. 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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2.1.51  Nerm_L  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.49    2 months ago
Nowhere do I state that Trump did nothing nor did I state that Biden produced the vaccines, etc. 

I did not mention Trump.  My comments have been about Biden and what Biden didn't do. Everything was in place.  Everything was paid for.  Biden didn't build that.

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Biden introduced some confusion by setting up megasites and deploying national guard as a show piece for Biden's big government promises.  Biden did purchase additional doses but then introduced confusion by donating vaccines to other countries.  Biden stepped back from producing the Astra Zeneca vaccine (approved in other countries) to reduce competition for vaccines approved in the US.  

 
 
 
cjcold
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2.1.52  cjcold  replied to  Nerm_L @2.1.36    2 months ago

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XXJefferson51
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2.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    2 months ago

The Brandon regime is indeed an epic fail on every count. 

 
 
 
cjcold
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2.2.1  cjcold  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.2    2 months ago

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bugsy
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2.2.2  bugsy  replied to  cjcold @2.2.1    2 months ago
Removed for context - sandy

How in the hell did you come up with that bullshit?

By your standards, every person that referred to Trump as Drumph, Orange man, and whatever derogatory you leftists referred to him over the past five years, makes you all communists.

I also feel as if you won't disagree with that.

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.2.3  bugsy  replied to  bugsy @2.2.2    2 months ago
I also feel as if you won't disagree with that.

And it looks like I am right.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.2.4  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  bugsy @2.2.3    one month ago

That you are!  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3  Sean Treacy    2 months ago

Remember when Biden promised to shut down the virus with his "plan."

Good times. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    2 months ago

I remember that!  Biden is just mad that the red states economies are booming and that they are hiring a lot of the people laid off in blue states.  

 
 
 
cjcold
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3.2  cjcold  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    2 months ago

And far right wing anti vax deniers destroyed that plan. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.2.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  cjcold @3.2    2 months ago

Biden destroyed his own plan all by himself.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4  seeder  XXJefferson51    2 months ago

And then there is the inflation issue that Brandon is failing us on. 

 
 
 
cjcold
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4.1  cjcold  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4    2 months ago

You obviously know nothing of economics or politics.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  cjcold @4.1    2 months ago

What I know about both is more than the author of post 4.1 knows about them.  Bringing back 1970’s inflation has got to be the single most stupid act of public policy since 19 Jan. 1980.  

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
4.1.2  cjcold  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.1    2 months ago

Pretty sure that your ideal of 1776 was worse.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  cjcold @4.1.2    2 months ago

Unlike bi coastal secular progressive urban  elites, I don’t view what happened on July 4th, 1776 to have been any kind of mistake.  

 
 

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