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Supreme Court ruling allows Virginia to remove suspected non-citizens from voter rolls | Just The News

  
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Supreme Court ruling allows Virginia to remove suspected non-citizens from voter rolls | Just The News
The ruling lifts an order that had temporarily stopped the program.

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The ruling lifts an order that had temporarily stopped the program.

The U.S. Supreme Court ruled 6-3 on Wednesday to allow Virginia to remove about 1,600 suspected non-citizens from its voting rolls.

The ruling lifts an order that had temporarily stopped the program.

Justices Sonia Sotomayor, Elena Kagan and Jackson Ketanji Brown Jackson dissented.

Rich Anderson, chair of the Republican Party of Virginia, reacted to the ruling, stating, "Democrat lawlessness will no longer stand in a nation that is of laws, not of men."


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Jeremy Retired in NC
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1  seeder  Jeremy Retired in NC    2 months ago

We all know that non-citizens aren't allowed to vote and are not on the rolls.  Yet across the country states are having to remove them from rolls.  And all the while, Democrats are fighting to keep them on there.  

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1  Ozzwald  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1    2 months ago
We all know that non-citizens aren't allowed to vote and are not on the rolls.

The catch is "suspected" non-citizens.  And oooops!  We accidentally removed legal minority citizens from those rolls, legal minority citizens that generally vote democratic.

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.1  bugsy  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1    2 months ago
The catch is "suspected" non-citizens. 

Again, they are not "suspected". They are non citizen that indicated to the Virginia DMV that they were not citizens.

Why does the left want non citizens to vote so badly?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1.2  seeder  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  bugsy @1.1.1    2 months ago

Suspected.  Enough reason to remove them.  

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.3  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1    2 months ago
The catch is "suspected" non-citizens.

The catch is individuals that called themselves noncitizens when applying for a driver’s license.

We accidentally removed legal minority citizens from those rolls, legal minority citizens that generally vote democratic.

Those 1600 can still vote after signing an affirmation that they are citizens.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.4  Ozzwald  replied to  bugsy @1.1.1    2 months ago
Again, they are not "suspected".

Are you saying that the seeded article is a lie?

Supreme Court ruling allows Virginia to remove suspected non-citizens from voter rolls

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.5  Ozzwald  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.1.3    2 months ago
Those 1600 can still vote after signing an affirmation that they are citizens.

And they have a few days to find the time to do so, after they are eventually notified that they need to.  Plenty of time <sarc>.

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.6  bugsy  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.4    2 months ago

Don't care about the article.

The FACTS are these people indicated to the VDMV that they are not citizens.

Why do you continue to not accept this?

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.7  bugsy  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.5    2 months ago

If they show to vote and find out they were removed, they can prove they are citizens at the polling place and put in a provincial ballot.

No one will be banned from voting if they are eligible.  

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.8  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.5    2 months ago
Few days?

They can cast a provisional ballet the same day that they sign the citizenship affirmation.  

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.9  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.4    2 months ago

The Wash Post has a more complete article.

 
 
 
goose is back
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1.1.10  goose is back  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1    2 months ago
The catch is "suspected" non-citizens.  And oooops!

Yeah ooops, there're so fucking dumb they indicated they were NOT CITIZENS at the dmv!

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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1.1.11  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  goose is back @1.1.10    2 months ago

If they’re that dumb then they’re likely voting for Donald.  You guys are shooting yourselves in the foot!

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.12  Ozzwald  replied to  bugsy @1.1.6    2 months ago

Why do you continue to not accept this?

Why do you continue to believe that ONLY THOSE SPECIFIC PEOPLE will be the ones effected?  If it was only them, the word "SUSPECTED" would not be used.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.13  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.12    2 months ago
If it was only them, the word "SUSPECTED" would not be used.

How do you get that?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.14  Ozzwald  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.1.13    2 months ago

How do you get that?

Read the article.  It is in the fucking title for god's sake!!!!!

If they KNEW that they are immigrants without the right to vote, they would NOT be SUSPECTED!!!!

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.15  bugsy  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.12    2 months ago

Why do you continually defend those that admitted to not being citizens and not allowed to vote.

Are democrats that desperate for non citizens to vote just to get them over the finish line? That was rhetorical, BTW.

Pathetic. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.16  bugsy  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @1.1.11    2 months ago
they’re likely voting for Donald

If they are Trump supporters, why does the left practically beg then to come to over the border. You would think a smart democrat would put a stop to the crossings if there was a chance they would vote for Trump.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.17  Ozzwald  replied to  bugsy @1.1.15    2 months ago
Why do you continually defend those that admitted to not being citizens and not allowed to vote.

I'm defending those that would get caught up in the over zealous wave of removing voters from rolls and lose their Constitutional right to vote because of it.

You seem to have a hard time grasping that despite my spelling it out.

Are democrats that desperate for non citizens to vote just to get them over the finish line? That was rhetorical, BTW.

Are republicans so desperate to win that they would take away citizens' right to vote?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.1.18  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.17    2 months ago
I'm defending those that would get caught up in the over zealous wave of removing voters from rolls and lose their Constitutional right to vote because of it

1,600 thousand still allowed to vote out of 6 million?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.1.19  seeder  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @1.1.11    2 months ago
If they’re that dumb then they’re likely voting for Donald.

If that were the case then Democrats would be fighting for their removal from the rolls.  Instead we see Democrats fighting to keep them.  

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.20  bugsy  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.1.19    2 months ago

They need those votes to get her over the finish line

 
 
 
bugsy
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2  bugsy    2 months ago

What we will see as responses here...to wit..

"It was the white supremacist wing of the court that allowed this"

"Illegals can't vote anyway."

"Trump supporters are racist, fascist, nazis and Hitler"

The second one should be true, however, if it were, why is the DOJ so adamant about getting them back on the rolls?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1  seeder  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  bugsy @2    2 months ago
"It was the white supremacist wing of the court that allowed this"

Yet it's Democrats trying to stop their removal from the rolls.

"Illegals can't vote anyway."

Yet they are on the rosters.

"Trump supporters are racist, fascist, nazis and Hitler"

That is the "I have nothing of any real substance to add but want to pretend I know what's going on statement.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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2.2  Snuffy  replied to  bugsy @2    2 months ago

Don't forget the ever popular 

"SCOTUS needs term limits"

"There is a clear need to expand the number of Justices on the Court so there can be a balance"

"But Trump!!!"

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.2.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Snuffy @2.2    2 months ago

If Trump wins, all the Democrats talk of Supreme Court "reform" will go right out the window. Suddenly, we wont need to add justices.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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2.2.2  Snuffy  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.1    2 months ago

I don't know if it will go right out the window, but it will definitely be overshadowed by calls for impeachment.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.2.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  Snuffy @2.2.2    2 months ago

They only want  additional or to replace justices if a Democrat can nominate them. That's the only principle at play.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3  Sean Treacy    2 months ago

A victory for common sense.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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4  Hal A. Lujah    2 months ago

Suspected non-citizen must be the new hate target.  Seems like it should be a really easy thing to verify, but nah - let’s just vilify them instead.

 
 
 
George
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4.1  George  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4    2 months ago

Who is vilifying them? they simple are being removed from the voter roles. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.2  seeder  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4    2 months ago

Enforcing the laws is actually the target.  Why are you so against it?

And it has been easy to verify.  When it comes to remove them Democrats step in to stop it.  Why is that?

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.3  bugsy  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4    2 months ago
Suspected non-citizen must be the new hate target.

Get your story straight. These people are not "suspected" non citizens. They are people that indicated to the VDOT that they are NOT citizens. 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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4.3.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  bugsy @4.3    2 months ago

Get your story straight. These people are not "suspected" non citizens.

Is that directed at me or the author of this article.  Lol

“The U.S. Supreme Court ruled 6-3 on Wednesday to allow Virginia to remove about 1,600 suspected non-citizens from its voting rolls.”

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.3.2  bugsy  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4.3.1    2 months ago

The article Is wrong, but that does not change the fact that these people told DMV that they were not citizens.

I don't know, nor do I care where the seed came from. They used a word they should not have.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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4.3.3  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  bugsy @4.3.2    2 months ago

The term “suspected” is used because it is entirely possible that they mistakenly read the statement and answered it wrong.  I guess you’d be in favor of deporting them immediately though.  There is no excuse for making a mistake, ever.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.4  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4    2 months ago

These are people (1,600) that marked themselves as noncitizens on their driver’s license application.  They can still vote after signing a citizenship affirmation.

 
 
 
George
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5  George    2 months ago

How can you rule against removing illegals from the voter roles?

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.1  bugsy  replied to  George @5    2 months ago

When you rely on them to put you over the top..............

 
 
 
Dig
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6  Dig    2 months ago
Rich Anderson, chair of the Republican Party of Virginia, reacted to the ruling, stating, "Democrat lawlessness will no longer stand in a nation that is of laws, not of men."

What a lying sack of shit. Don't you guys ever get tired of being lied to? Republicans in Virginia and the conservative justices on the Supreme Court are the ones being lawless. Literally.

The National Voter Registration Act is law , and clearly states the following:

SEC. 8. REQUIREMENTS WITH RESPECT TO ADMINISTRATION OF
VOTER REGISTRATION.

...

(c) VOTER REMOVAL PROGRAMS

...

(2)(A) A State shall complete, not later than 90 days prior
to the date of a primary or general election for Federal office,
any program the purpose of which is to systematically remove
the names of ineligible voters from the official lists of eligible
voters.

The act requires states to maintain accurate and current voter rolls, and they have all the time between elections to do that, but the process has to be completed 90 days before an election. A similar program in Alabama was found to have removed around 2000 eligible citizens that had to be reinstated by a judge. Hence the 90 day cut-off, to ensure time to sort errors out.

Youngkin started his program exactly 90 days before the election, as if to intentionally flout the law. Apparently, this conservative Supreme Court doesn't care about that, or the law.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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6.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dig @6    2 months ago
which is to systematically remove the names of ineligible voters

There was no "systematic removal," which is why  Virginia won. Each alien was removed after a case by case review.

and,  of course, illegal aliens are not voters to begin with, so the statute doesn't apply to them. 

 
 
 
Dig
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6.1.1  Dig  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.1    2 months ago
There was no "systematic removal," which is why  Virginia won. Each alien was removed after a case by case review.

A case by case basis requires a systematic review. How else would it be done? Random selection? Registrations pulled out of a hat? There were 1600 cases identified. Of course it was a systematic review.

The law is clear that purges are supposed to be finished ahead of the 90 day window. If they cared about following the law, then they would have followed the law. That's the issue. To have that moron in the article accuse Ds of "lawlessness" is ridiculous.

Fortunately, Virginia has same day registration, so anyone wrongly removed should theoretically still be able to vote.

 
 
 
charger 383
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7  charger 383    2 months ago

If they indicated they were non citizens how and why did they get on the voting rolls?

 
 
 
Tacos!
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8  Tacos!    2 months ago

If this was so important, how come it couldn’t be done well before the election, in case errors are made? Something wrong with a year ago? Two years ago?

 
 

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