Issues to consider for the Black Voter
As someone famous once said "elections have consequences." Concerned citizens have to weigh what the consequences/benefits will be when they vote. The priorities are different for every individual and I do not presume to know what really matters to an entire group of people, especially one as large as 12.5% of the population. However, I sometimes wonder about issues that I assume would be important to minority groups - and it this case - Black Americans.
Here is my short list for your consideration:
The effect of immigration on minority employment - This was once, about a decade ago, of importance to the democratic party. The belief was that unskilled immigrants were in direct competition for various service sector jobs with minority groups. Of course, not all minority job seekers would be in this competition, but a certain percentage would. So, what happened to democrats concerns? I think they started counting heads and decided that pandering to 29% of the population might be better than taking care of the 12.5% of the population which has been extremely loyal to the democratic party. Something to think about?
School Choice - For inner city Black Americans this is a big issue, though you would never know it via the media. Am I right? Instead the demand for public schools and money for public schools is the party priority, not what Black families want. How did this happen? - The Teachers Union wants it to stay that way and the Teachers Union is the most special of all special interest groups in the democratic party tent. Food for thought?
Public Safety - I saved the most important for last! From Portland, Oregon to Chicago, Illinois to NYC, NY there is complete lawlessness:
In Chicago – Amaria Jones, 13, was in the living room of her West Side Chicago home showing her mom a new TikTok dance when a stray bullet came through the front window, pierced her neck and lodged in the TV.
The spray of bullets outside also wounded two boys, 15 and 16, sitting on the front porch.
Amaria was rushed to the hospital and pronounced dead."
As of July 5, shootings were up 53% from the same time last year in New York City, according to police.
In Atlanta, where 8-year-old Secoriea Turner was fatally shot on Independence Day, shootings were up 23% from last year as of July 4, according to police.
In Chicago, shootings increased 46% from the same time last year as of July 12, according to police.
news.yahoo.com/shootings-rise-several-cities-children-100019441.html
Is this really what city residents have voted for? Who's idea was it to let the rioters run wild? Who's idea was it to let those minority businesses burn down? Who's idea is it to defund the police who will be protecting those who live in the inner city?
You decide.
That is what I believe are the three most important issues, at least, to that segment of the minority population living in inner city neighborhoods. Please note I did not list "racism" as one of the issues. Resist the drive by call for once - think before you vote!
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It's a serious question.
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A/noon Vic. I am completely confused with you mob over there and please excuse me, if this is sort of off topic. Recently I watched 2 documentaries on the States, both excellent by the way. One by Tony Robinson a Brit was all about train travel in America. And one by an Aussie on the crime etc in Chicago..Tony arrived in California and was interviewing some black Americans and they perform as clowns at kids birthday parties..they were excellent...While interviewing them the 6 started putting on their make up, I guess you could call it "white face" as that is what it was...Now I know "black face" is taboo as it is here and the thought went through my mind...Is this taboo to or acceptable and why would they do that??...Next was the Aussie interviewing all these rap singers in Chicago. He got harassed by the cops because he was filming the rappers in the street and someone complained. The cops started demanding permits etc anyway in the end the cops got no where and left and the rappers started singing...Now this really confused me because all thru their songs they refer to themselves as "N" ?? I thought what!!..maybe it is the accent and I am mis hearing this so put the subtitles on the TV..Nope all the way through it is "N". They are referring to themselves as that, not someone saying it to them..That absolutely stumped me as when it is said there is normally hell to pay as there should be..They made it sound like they are proud to be referred to as that...Even is conversation they refer to themselves as that..I don't listen to rap so not sure if this is normal or what..But at the end of it, I am one perplexed Aussie...Can anyone throw any light on it please...
I believe you partly answered your own question-- "Blackface is taboo"-- but they weren't putting on "Blackface"!
(Apparently they were putting on "Whiteface"-- I don't believe I've ever heard of people doing that although I suppose it exists-- but I wouldn't think taboo...?)
Why would they do that? I have no idea-- I'm not psychic-- so we'd have to ask them. (Possibly they were attempting to mock people who do put on "blackface".. but I really don't know)
P.S: Actually I am Psychic-- recently finished a year-long programme in Psychic development--- but that's a bit off topic so best not to get into a discussion of that now
Actually something I discovered a while back. There are some words that shock people-- usually profanity `and also racial insults.
But long ago I noticed a fascinating phenomenon-- if a word is repeated often enough-- to extremes-- it often looses its "bite".
Generally the "N word" was used as an insult. But a while back, a group of African-Americans realized what I had just mentioned-- and started constantly referring to themselves as "N*gger". Eventually a large group of AA's referred to each other as the N word. For example, when meeting one another, would say:
Yo-- wassup N*gger?
Another example. For some time the term "Redneck" was generally a pejorative term for a (usually) a poor Southern white who worked at unskilled manual labour.in the fields. Work that, by implications, was only fit for the "Nigrahs" (another colourful term but that's a bit off topic).
"Redneck" is somewhat similar to the Southern expression "Po' White Trash",also an insult. (And Po' White Trash is somewhat the equivalent of what you infernal Yankees often refer to as "Trailer Park Trash").
P.S: SAny true Southerner woth his weight in Chitlins', Hominy, and Black Eyed Peas knows that the word "trash" is pronounced as two syllables... but you don't have to know that!
But then some Southerners (presumably actual "Rednecks" themselves) did what the "Negroes" did to "N*gger"-- by using this insult to describe themselves, they also took the sting out of the term Redneck.
If you think that is all rap music is...
No offence butt
Expand your horizons .
“But long ago I noticed a fascinating phenomenon-- if a word is repeated often enough-- to extremes-- it often looses its "bite".”
i agree, the word “racist” comes to mind.
That sounds like the rap group Insane Clown Posse and what they do is not blackface...
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Those aren't real,psychics-- but if you want to trust them go ahead-- it your money!
First let me say that it's refreshing to hear from a place were they think a lot of this is odd. I kind of share that feeling.
It is true that the N word was condemned & put to rest in this country a long time ago, however Black Americans have taken ownership of the word and although they use it on one another and rappers extend it's usage, white Americans don't. As far as "black face" goes that is something that went on in minstrel shows and certain sections of this country. It is universally condemned and long gone. You also mentioned what you call "white face" as part of a clown costume? It is just that. It is not and never was intended to imply anything racial. Isn't it nice that there is something in this country that doesn't have race heaped on it?
Aren't you glad that you live in a country without the politics of racial division?
That's fine with me.
But does that mean if some black voters are Trump supporters we can't talk about them-- in an seed entitled:
Issues To Consider For The Black Voter
Must we limit this discussion only to Black voters who are Biden supporters?
What it means is the gate to the mud puddle is closed. With all your education you should be first to understand that.
Black voters are not convinced. In fact...the opposite!
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Last warning
“The effect of immigration on minority employment”
not only minority employment, but blue collar employment on the whole, despite race. Dems have claimed for decades to be for the working man and woman. If that’s true why have they, along with repubs, supported trade deals that screwed the American worker? Why did they sit idle as manufacturing jobs left our shores? That claim is a lie.
that claim is made even more ridiculous by the current crop of dems who want refugee status for anyone and everyone, open borders, and free medicare for all, even foreigners. I’d love to hear a dem explain how those policies will help working class Americans of all colors. I get the impression dems care more about illegals and foreigners than they do about Americans. We do not have unlimited resources and jobs. There are many AMERICANS of every color that need help, so by all means, let’s allow any and everyone into the country to spread our limited jobs and resources even thinner. Good thinking, dems, gone so far left i don’t ever see myself voting for another dem, ever.
What were they supposed to do? In a democracy ...and especially if you're a true advocate of democratic Capitalism and the highly venerated "Free Market Forces"-- )even perhaps--gasp!-- of you are an an actual small government Libertarian)... do you really want the federal government to meddle in the affairs of Free Enterprise? Big Government telling corporations how-- and where-- they should spend their money and run their businesses sounds like more than a tad Socialist to me!
AOC would jump for joy-- but do we really want to do down the Devil's Path...the Red Brick Road to Socialistic Atheistic ,,,COMMUNISM???
“What were they supposed to do?”
oh i don’t know, create legislation that helps keeps American jobs on American soil?
“of you are an an actual small governent Libertarian)”
you don’t know my views, my background, where i’ve been or where i’m at, don’t pretend you do, that is so liberal.
you don’t know my views, my background, where i’ve been or where i’m at
Correct.
Well I do know some of your views-- but only those you mentioned in yourself in your angry rant.
For exampIe-- since you yourself mentioned it-- I do know you are not in favour of free enterprise-- of companies deciding their own policies. That you'd rather have the government tell them what they can and can't do. Who they can and cannot employ
.And have the government tell American businesses where they can and can't invest. (In your case it would appear you are in favour of having Big Government force corporations to invest in only one country-- the U.S.)
But i only know this because you mentioned it (and now you're claiming I don't know-- what you just told me about yourself!)
That was a typo-- it should've read:
or you are an an actual small government Libertarian)... do you really want the federal government to meddle in the affairs of Free Enterprise?
It was a question. (I still don't know of you are for more government regulation of business ...particularly whereand what type of people they should hire...or even if you are perhaps some sort of Libertarian (one who doesn't seem to have a good understanding of how free enterprise really works?).
A question-- several questions.
You mean like you did so often in the past?
You seem to know so much about me, who’d i vote for in ‘92? ‘96? 2000? 2004? How about ‘08? ‘12? We could go back further if you’d like. Come on krishna. If you can’t answer and answer correctly then stop with the bullshit of acting like you know someone when you don’t.
acting like you know someone when you don’t.
Those were questions-- I was posing severa lpossibilities, based onn what you yourself said-- because I wanted to know what your views actually were. (And IMO having the government tell businesses who and where they could hire is contrary to free enterprise and democracy-- in fact it smacks of Socialism-- at the very least!
Krishna is phychic, she knows all about you
There are different types of psychics-- I'm not that kind of psychic!
For example, my teacher is a forensic psychic (police psychic) -- the only work she does is work with the police. (For example she was at the JonBenét Ramsey house...)
Well, she also does some Remote Viewing-- which is another highly specialized type of work. Although they claimed to have stopped doing it, and totally deny they still do it, our government still uses it for military purposes-- as do other countries-- especially the Russians).
In her programme we had a weekend learning Remote Viewing and another learning Foresnsic Psychic work. We really just got a taste of it-- It was interesting but neither interests me professionally so I am not pursuing advanced courses in either).
But she's learned a bit about many other types of Psychic work, and then developped a year long program to teach other forms of psychic work which I took.
P.S: You are right about one thing-- most of those so-called "psychics" most people are familiar with are frauds-- and in fact the "gypsy fortyunetellers" in store windows are mostly con artists running scams-- every once in a while there a major bust and you see it in the news-- but they have some very clever (and sneaky!) ways to avoid the cops)
If that’s true why have they, along with repubs, supported trade deals that screwed the American worker? Why did they sit idle as manufacturing jobs left our shores?
Good point!
Did you know that the average Chinese person has a much higher standard of living than most Americans? They most have a large house, and a spacious vacation home as well, Several luxury cars-- while we Americans toil over hard labour for many hours each day.
We really do suffer-- all do to what you mention--while that average Chinese person lives a life of relative ease!
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While the average American toils and toils...since the Chinese have ripped us off for millions for years-- they obviously haveit better than we do!
(Unless we're ripping them off so we live better-- but I doubt it!)
Link?
Great question. American corporations had a hard time competing against cheap foreign labor. American Unions had won great concessions on wages & benefits which were a big part of the once great American middle class. Did those corporations lobby for globalist policies? Many of them simply moved to where labor was cheap. You may have noted that wages have now become part of the most recent trade deals.
Why did they sit idle as manufacturing jobs left our shores?
They sold out and they didn't worry about tomorrow's consequences.
That claim is a lie.
And thus what once was the backbone of the democratic party has left. A political realignment.
that claim is made even more ridiculous by the current crop of dems who want refugee status for anyone and everyone, open borders, and free medicare for all, even foreigners.
As I said, somewhere along the line they counted heads. They concluded that if they could get 29% of the population to act as a bloc vote, they need not worry about blue collar democrats, whom they took for granted.
Well that is a campaign promise that Trump made in 2016 and has obviously failed to fulfill.
what's interesting is that while blacks have continued to vote Democratic they've been fleeing democratic run states for red, southern states for years. It's a reverse black migration.
Though it seems not interesting enough for you to review the nuances.
The vast majority of African Americans 'migrate' to large metro areas, which are overwhelming governed by Democrats. Even a majority of African Americans, though born in the rural south, migrated to metro areas.
The great reverse migration is blacks leaving northern blue states for “racist” southern states governed by republicans. I see you have nothing to contribute on the topic.
Why do you characterize southern states as 'racist'?
Except facts which you haven't refuted.
Try addressing my comment rather than express your opinion of me.
Deferred Pandering for Childhood Arrivals 2014
The Taking Care of Rights Act of 1964
The Taking Care of Act of 1965
Yes, Democrats have been doing that since the 60's.