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Pence Also had Classified documents in his Home

  
By:  al Jizzerror  •  last year  •  46 comments


Pence Also had Classified documents in his Home
It is obvious that the rules (and laws) that pertain to classified information should be updated.

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WTF?


I guess the DOJ will appoint another Special Counsel to investigate Pence.


First on CNN: Classified documents found at Pence’s Indiana home



By   Jamie Gangel ,   Jeremy Herb   and   Evan Perez , CNN


Updated 11:04 PM EST, Tue January 24, 2023



WashingtonCNN — 

A lawyer for former Vice President Mike Pence discovered about a dozen documents marked as classified at Pence’s Indiana home last week, and he has turned those classified records over to the FBI, multiple sources familiar with the matter told CNN.

The FBI and the Justice Department’s National Security Division have launched a review of the documents and how they ended up in Pence’s house in Indiana.

The classified documents were discovered at the former vice president’s new home in Carmel, Indiana, by a lawyer for Pence in the wake of the revelations about classified material  discovered in President Joe Biden’s private office and residence , the sources said. The discovery comes after Pence has repeatedly said he did not have any classified documents in his possession.

It is not yet clear what the documents are related to or their level of sensitivity or classification.

Pence’s team notified congressional leaders and relevant committees of the discovery on Tuesday.

Pence asked his lawyer with experience handling classified material to conduct the search of his home out of an abundance of caution. Sources said that the attorney, Matt Morgan, began going through four boxes stored at Pence’s house last week, finding a small number of documents with classified markings.

Pence’s lawyer immediately alerted the National Archives, the sources said. In turn, the Archives informed the Justice Department.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/24/politics/pence-classified-documents-fbi/index.html

Biden has not weighed in on the Pence Classified doc's, butt guess who jumped right into that fire?  Donald Fucking Trump had to go there (of course).

It is obvious that the rules (and laws) that pertain to classified information should be updated.

When I served in the Navy (VF-102) I was the C.O.'s Yeoman (the equivalent of Radar O'Reilly on MASH).  I was also the "Postal Orderly".  I had to meet the mail plane when it landed on the deck of the USS Independence.  I would off-load at least two mail pouches  (regular mail and classified mail).  I took the locked pouch directly into the squadron's walk-in safe.  I would route every classified document to the recipient indicated.  Every pilot had a mail slot in the safe for classified info.  When Officers received a transfer, I would attach a memo requesting that they return any classified information in their procession.  Every document had to be accounted for. 


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al Jizzerror
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1  author  al Jizzerror    last year

I'm sending in my resume to the DOJ.

I want to be the Special Counsel assigned to the Pence case.

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Pence may be a security risk.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  al Jizzerror @1    last year

Holy Smoke!!!  I sure hope the Department of Justice or Homeland Security or the FBI or CIA or whatever doesn't search my storage unit in Toronto, in case they may find some classified documents there.  Maybe during all my travels in the USA over many decades I took photos of something that is top secret, but I didn't bring it with me here. 

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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1.1.1  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1    last year
Maybe during all my travels in the USA over many decades I took photos of something that is top secret

And you live in fucking China?

Oh, shit, you're a fucking spy!

We gonna borrow Dic Cheney's waterboard and interrogate the shit out of you.

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Buzz of the Orient
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1.1.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  al Jizzerror @1.1.1    last year

LOL.  I'm not a spy, but the fly on Pence's hair was.  Bet you aren't aware that it read Pence's mind and transmitted everything he knew up to one of China's spy satellites, you know the satellites that gather all the information transmitted by the Chinese parts in your cars, air conditioners, mobile phones, refrigerators, washing machines, computers, TVs, etc.   As Julia Roberts said in Ocean's 11, "There's always someone watching.":

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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1.1.3  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1.2    last year
"There's always someone watching.":
總有人看
Zǒng yǒurén kàn

中國政府盡是資本主義豬
Zhōngguó zhèngfǔ jìn shì zīběn zhǔyì zhū
 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.1.4  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  al Jizzerror @1.1.3    last year
I never learned Chinese, only know some words and expressions.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.1.5  Trout Giggles  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1.2    last year

The fly was a bot

 
 
 
Snuffy
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1.1.6  Snuffy  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1.4    last year

My time in the military showed me that the only two important phrases to learn in the language of the country  you are visiting are :

   Another beer please.

    Where's the restroom?

Anything beyond that just wasn't that important to the younger military mind...   hehe

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.7  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.1.5    last year

flies land on shit. the picture is self explanatory.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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1.1.8  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.1.5    last year
The fly was a bot

Was the fly attracted to Pence because he's a bot or because he's a shit head?

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cobaltblue
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1.1.9  cobaltblue  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1.2    last year
but the fly on Pence's hair was

... a Biden/Harris supporter who landed on Pence's head to puke the dog shit he ate earlier.

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cobaltblue
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1.1.10  cobaltblue  replied to  devangelical @1.1.7    last year

flies land on shit. the picture is self explanatory.

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al Jizzerror
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1.1.11  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  cobaltblue @1.1.9    last year
landed on Pence's head to puke the dog shit he ate earlier.

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Buzz of the Orient
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1.1.12  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  cobaltblue @1.1.9    last year

Sorry, can't open that photo.  You would have to copy and save it to your picture library and then copy and paste it from there. 

 
 
 
cobaltblue
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1.1.13  cobaltblue  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1.12    last year

Let's see if this works for you. Unfortunately this doesn't have the same clarity. The fly is holding up a Pence/Harris campaign sign. 

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Buzz of the Orient
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1.1.14  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  cobaltblue @1.1.13    last year

Okay, I see the image, but can't open the link - enlarged the image but still couldn't read the sign due to lack of clarity..

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cobaltblue
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1.1.15  cobaltblue  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1.14    last year

Okay. Now this is a challenge. How about now.

PHOTO-Fly-On-Mike-Pences-Head-With-Biden-Harris-Lawn-Sign-768x831.jpg

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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1.1.16  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  cobaltblue @1.1.15    last year
How about now.

Perfect!

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.1.17  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  cobaltblue @1.1.15    last year

Thanks for going to all this trouble for me - much appreciated. 

Okay, got that it's a promo sign for BIDEN HARRIS but there is a line under that's in really small letters that I can't read even when I enlarge it because it loses clarity.   So what I did was do a web search of BIDEN HARRIS campaign signs and came up with two that look like the one with the fly - one says "Text READY to 30330" and the other says "JOEBIDEN. com", so I assume it's one of those.  

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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1.1.18  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @1.1.17    last year
Thanks for going to all this trouble for me - much appreciated.

Cobalt is a keeper!

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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1.1.19  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  al Jizzerror @1.1.18    last year

Absolutely.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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2  Right Down the Center    last year

I think the lesson learned since they went after Trump was politicians play a little fast and loose with the handling of classified documents.  Probably have been for years.  Hopefully either the rules will be looked at for what defines the different classifications of documents and changed if needed or our elected officials will take it more seriously.  

My hope is they find a few in Shifty Adams possession after he proclaimed "I have a deep concern over anytime we discover that there are classified information in materials anywhere they shouldn’t be. And I am so careful when I leave that SCIF. I’m careful when I go into it. I literally pat myself down to make sure I’ve gotten rid of all my electronics and very careful not to take anything out of the SCIF,""

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3  Trout Giggles    last year

Al...Mr G was an admin in the Air Force. His first assignment was with the 6th Strat Wing. He handled classified documents all day every day.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.1  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @3    last year

I'd start going thru any boxes of paperwork stored in your closets or garage...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @3.1    last year

Probably not a bad idea....no telling what he kept from the early 80's. He still has all of the artwork the kids did

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.1    last year

that wad of paper you found in the bottom of the washing machine years ago and tossed would probably get you 10 years at club fed...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @3.1    last year

We talked about this this morning. He said if he had carried classified documents home he would have been hanged. I think they still did hangings at Ft Leavenworth back then

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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3.1.4  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.3    last year
He said if he had carried classified documents home he would have been hanged.

The Trumpanzees wanted to hang Mike Pence on January 6, 2021.

 
 
 
cobaltblue
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3.2  cobaltblue  replied to  Trout Giggles @3    last year

Al...Mr G was an admin in the Air Force. His first assignment was with the 6th Strat Wing. He handled classified documents all day every day.

Now we have to add your shed, back bedroom and the boxes underneath the second bathroom sink for a classified documents search. I think Mr. Giggles can declassify the documents by thinking about it.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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3.2.1  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  cobaltblue @3.2    last year
a classified documents search.

I think the ostrich ate them.

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cobaltblue
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3.2.2  cobaltblue  replied to  al Jizzerror @3.2.1    last year
I think the ostrich ate them.

She's always been incorrigible. 

 
 
 
Ender
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3.2.3  Ender  replied to  cobaltblue @3.2.2    last year

BizB stopped by here about a year or so ago. Was hoping she would come back.

I don't know why I read that and thought of her though....Haha

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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3.2.4  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  Ender @3.2.3    last year
BizB stopped by here about a year or so ago. Was hoping she would come back.

I miss her too.

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cobaltblue
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3.2.5  cobaltblue  replied to  Ender @3.2.3    last year

I don't know why I read that and thought of her though....Haha

Because she and Giggles let that bird run roughshod through BH. The photos showed her raiding our closets, wearing our jewelry, stealing cars, smoking all our pot. Sure people called those memes, but pictures don't lie.

I love BB. She's on Twitter and still funnier than shit. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.2.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  al Jizzerror @3.2.1    last year

Then there's no problem!

 
 
 
freepress
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4  freepress    last year

Kind of difficult now for right wing voters to say it was okay that Trump and Pence did it while they bash Biden. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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4.1  devangelical  replied to  freepress @4    last year

they seem to be immune to hypocrisy...

 
 
 
Kavika
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5  Kavika     last year

I was given a Blue Check Mark to show that my home is classified as document free.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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5.1  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  Kavika @5    last year
I was given a Blue Check Mark

WTF?
Did you buy an $8 Blue Check Mark from Elon Musk?

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Kavika
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6  Kavika     last year
WTF?
Did you buy an$8 Blue Check Markfrom Elon Musk?

Oh no, I'm too damn cheap to pay for a check mark, blue or any other color. I just told Elon that he was the greatest CEO in the history of mankind and bazinga, he sent me a BLUE Check Mark free of charge.

 
 
 
CB
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7  CB    last year

Okay, let me be the first to cry 'foul!'! Where are the checks on the women in politics who surely handle documents as much as these sketchy old men?  (More tomorrow. New day and all!)

 
 
 
CB
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8  CB    last year

What more do we need to hear or read about this? These "professionals' each with equal power to throw 'shade' and clog up the system are sitting in D.C. in-charge of this nation's duties and responsibilities to its citizens and they are screwing up as much as they get right! This story makes no sense if all the parties, including those with custody control over documents are doing what they are intended to do! People in jail for mishandling documents right now should protest and demand a new assessment of their cases!

Old expression: This is the case of $hitting and stepping in it.

 
 
 
cobaltblue
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9  cobaltblue    last year

Primers defining the difference between trump, Biden and Pence:

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cobaltblue
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9.1  cobaltblue  replied to  cobaltblue @9    last year
between trump, Biden

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cobaltblue
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10  cobaltblue    last year

I'm exhausted just looking at all the people online that are trying to justify the trump document fiasco by comparing it to President Biden and Pence. Sorry for the long read, but for god's sake, the rhetorical bullshit obviously needs clarification. 

A federal judge on Monday agreed to a request from Donald Trump to appoint a special master to review records the FBI seized at his Florida home, a move that could delay the investigation into whether the former president mishandled classified documents. U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon in West Palm Beach, Florida, said the court authorized the appointment to review personal items, documents and material subject to claims of attorney-client privilege. Cannon was appointed by Trump in 2020, just months before he left office.

That authorization came days after the U.S. Justice Department, in a court filing, alleged that Trump's records custodian, who was unnamed, falsely certified that the former president had returned all the government records. The department also said it had evidence classified documents were deliberately concealed from the FBI.

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January 20, 2021:  Trump departs the White House as Democrat Joe Biden is sworn in as the nation's 46th president and heads to his private Florida estate known as Mar-a-Lago.

May 2021:  The National Archives and Records Administration, also known as NARA, emails Trump's lawyers, notifying them that some two dozen boxes of original records were not turned over, according to  The Washington Post .

December 2021:  A Trump representative tells the National Archives "that they had located some records,"  according to a statement  published later by the National Archives.

Mid-January 2022:  The National Archives  retrieves 15 boxes  of presidential records from Trump's estate. The nonpartisan presidential records agency said it "identified items marked as classified national security information, up to the level of Top Secret and including Sensitive Compartmented Information and Special Access Program materials" and sought permission to alert the FBI.

February 8, 2022:  The National Archives issues a public statement saying it is still searching for more of Trump's presidential records , one day after  The Washington Post  reported  the boxes were retrieved from Florida.

February 10, 2022:  U.S. House of Representatives Oversight Committee announces an investigation into Trump's handling of the documents, later expanding its probe in a February 24 letter to the agency.
The New York Times  reports White House staff periodically found clumps of documents clogging White House toilets, an accusation Trump has said is false. Reporter Maggie Haberman  later releases photos  of some of the alleged found documents.

February 18, 2022:  The National Archives tells Congress that Trump took classified information to his Florida home after leaving the White House.

April 7, 2022:  Sources confirm to Reuters that the U.S. Justice Department was investigating Trump's removal of official presidential records from the White House.

April 11, 2022:  The White House Counsel's Office under Biden formally requests that the National Archives give the FBI access to the 15 boxes. The National Archives notifies Trump's representatives about the FBI review in an April 12 letter .

April 29 and May 1, 2022:  Trump lawyer Evan Corcoran seeks to delay disclosure to the FBI in two letters sent to the National Archives.

May 10, 2022:  Acting U.S. Archivist Debra Steidel Wall responds to Corcoran, rejecting Trump's requested delay and refusing his "'protective' claim of privilege," adding the FBI can access the records as soon as May 12. The letter is made public August 23 and notes hundreds of pages of classified documents were recovered so far .

May 11, 2022:  Jay Bratt, chief of counterintelligence and export control at the U.S. Justice Department's National Security Division, requests that Trump's custodian of records appear before a federal grand jury in Washington, Tuesday's filing showed. Bratt, in a separate letter to Corcoran, says the representative can comply with the subpoena by giving the FBI "any responsive documents" and a sworn statement , instead of appearing in court . The grand jury probe was first reported by  The New York Times.

June 3, 2022:  A Trump representative, whose name is redacted in the Justice Department filing, asserts that "a diligent search" was conducted for documents at Mar-a-Lago removed from the White House and that "any and all responsive documents accompany this certification ."

August 8, 2022 :  Federal agents execute a search warrant at Trump's Florida property, uncovering 13 boxes or containers with documents marked classified — "more than twice the amount produced June 3 in response to the grand jury subpoena ." Trump was not at the property at the time, and media reports showed him at Trump Tower in Manhattan.
A photo released in a court filing later that month shows some of the seized documents with clear markings of "Top Secret" and "Secret."
Trump, in a post online, says the records were "all declassified" and placed in "secure storage." A day later, Trump, who continues to hint at a possible 2024 run for the presidency, cites the FBI search in a campaign fundraising appeal .

August 12, 2022:  The FBI's search warrant is released to the public following approval by U.S. Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart.

August 22, 2022:  Two weeks after the FBI's search, Trump separately asks the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida for a so-called special master to review the documents, prompting the Justice Department's 54-page response on Tuesday. The next day, the National Archives releases its May 10 letter to Trump's attorney .

August 26, 2022:  The Justice Department releases a heavily redacted affidavit — a sworn statement outlining the evidence giving law enforcement officials probable cause to ask a judge to approve a search warrant — after media outlets sued for its release. A judge approved its release.

August 30, 2022:  The department files its response to Trump's request for a special master review.

September 1, 2022:  At a hearing in West Palm Beach, Cannon suggests she is willing to accede to Trump's request and appoint a special master to review the documents.

September 2, 2022:  The FBI reveals in a court filing that it recovered more than 11,000 government documents and photographs during the August 8 search of Trump's estate, as well as 48 empty folders labeled as "classified."

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The loser ex-Traitor-In-Chief lied over and over again in response to written requestS. First trump claims he didn't know they were there, then later claims he declassified them by thinking about it. Which is it? Ridiculous bullshit loser excuses by loser supporters of loser trump. 

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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10.1  author  al Jizzerror  replied to  cobaltblue @10    last year
The loser ex-Traitor-In-Chief lied over and over again in response to written requestS. First trump claims he didn't know they were there, then later claims he declassified them by thinking about it. Which is it?

Trump also said the records belonged to him for keepsies.  

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