Turkey’s President Invokes Islamic Text Sanctioning Killing Jews
Turkey’s President Invokes Islamic Text Sanctioning Killing Jews
By: John Rossomando, The Algemeiner, Reported by United With Israel, December 13 2017
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan invoked a Muslim “hadith” commonly used by Hamas and other terrorist supporters to sanction the killing of Jews, during a party convention last Sunday.
Turkish PM Recep Tayyip Erdogan (AP)
“[T]hose who think they own Jerusalem better know that tomorrow they won’t be able to hide behind trees,” Erdogan said, according to a translation by dissident Turkish journalist Abdullah Bozkurt. Last year, Erdogan shut down Bozkurt’s former newspaper, Today’s Zaman , which had Turkey’s largest circulation.
“[This is] a veiled threat of killing each and every Jew with a shocking reference to apocalyptic prophecy of tree story,” Bozkurt wrote.
The full hadith says: “The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews, and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: ‘Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him;’ but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.”
Erdogan invoked the passage during a Justice and Development Party (AKP) gathering on Sunday, just days after President Trump proclaimed Jerusalem to be Israel’s capital and pledged to move the US embassy there. Erdogan also accused Israel of being a terrorist state.
Under Erdogan, Turkey has harbored and funded Hamas terrorists, provided covert support to ISIS and other jihadists in Syria, and bombed civilians belonging to his own Kurdish minority.
But Erdogan is more interested in appealing to his base’s anti-Semitic sentiments than inspiring foreign jihadis to fight Israel, Bozkurt told the Investigative Project on Terrorism (IPT) via Twitter. The dictator’s comments also distract the Turkish public from the New York trial of an Iranian gold trader named Reza Zarrab and Turkish banker Mehmet Hakan Atilla, who — witnesses testified — worked with Erdogan to circumvent oil sanctions against Iran, Bozkurt said.
“It is a noise that will distract [the] public from damaging revelations going on in the US federal court where [Erdogan] was exposed for what he is: Corrupt, sanction buster, greedy politician,” Bozkurt said.
Anti-Semitism has always been in the background in Turkish society, but Bozkurt said that this marks one of the first times that Turkey’s head of state has publicly been involved with fueling it.
The Turkish Youth Foundation (TUGVA), run by Erdogan’s son, Bilal, participated in anti-Israel and anti-US rallies calling on Muslims to unite against Trump’s Jerusalem announcement.
On Friday, protesters in Istanbul chanted slogans including, “Jerusalem is ours and will remain so,” “Down with America” and “Down with Israel.”
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Erdogan, who sent terrorists to Israel aboard the Mavi Marmora, has spoken.
The Turks elected Erdogan. He is not the first elected leader to subvert the institutions that he swore to uphold, and sadly he is not the last.
He has? Ok, because in that same speech he stated that he will still be using diplomatic efforts against Israel and Trump's announcement.
Sadly Erdogan has taken a secular society into the main stream of terrorism...
What's next...Total genocide of the Kurds? The Turks are good at that (Armenia)
Since the 'coup' attempt Erdogan has been on a mission to purge Turkey ... detaining and firing school teachers, judges, military personnel... even shutting down the media.
The Kurds are prob safe for the time being, but once the November 2019 election is over, and Erdogan's referendum takes affect - I am thinking things will change drastically for those that Erdogan has NO use for. Even when Erdogan decided to join the Obama administration coalition the first order of business was to attack the Syrian Kurds...
I will be watching to see what NATO does regarding 'ally' Turkey .. if not for the strategic importance/location of the country, I wonder if Turkey would still be a NATO nation.
I doubt if they would be a NATO nation.
Hard to say .. yet the Turkey of the 1950's was far different than Turkey under Erdogan's rule .. I did a lil reading to refresh my memory regarding Turkey and NATO (Turkey became a member before W. Germany... )
Yet now, Erdogan sides with Russia and Iran regarding Syria ... talks/threatens of invading Northern Syria and Iraq (Kurds and oil?) ... the 'coup attempt' emboldened and empowered Erdogan (I have always felt it was staged just for this reason)
I lived in Turkey from 93 to 94. It's a different country now, largely because of their Erdogan and his party.
I agree, it seemed like a cartoon not a coup.
Good point;
I know huh ... Erdogan tells his supporters to take to the streets against the 'military' .. jumps on a plane to fly into the middle of the conflict - rebels have his plane in their sites but do nothing .. just let him land, declare the coup is dead and begin the crack down?
A bit mind numbing! Turkey has a history of successful military coup's starting in the 60's - with the second largest military in NATO.. what happened?
In addition, there were limitations on holding the office, until he was in power and was able to change it........now he's there until he decides to leave or dies.
I still lay a lot of this at the feet of the EU. Turkey wanted to join, the EU said only of you change your constitution-they had a separation of 'church and state' that makes ours look like child's play. They removed that and the EU still laughed at them and said 'no membership for you'. The upshot is, that this guy could never hold office before and now he's in charge and bringing Islamic law to this once progressive country.
Good point Spike ... yet the relationship between Europe and Turkey dates way back .. I do not often us Wikipedia .. but it has all the talking points on one page (so to speak : ) I would have to post multiple links to provide
Erdogan came into power as the Prime Minister of Turkey in 2002 - became President in 2014... he gained power subtly at first - one of those leaders that one loves or hates - does not seem to be a middle ground (from what I have read about the guy - he even built his palace to represent the Ottoman palaces)
Hope you do not think I am trying to lecture you .. I see that you lived in Turkey for a time period..
The EU has minimum standards that any candidate must meet. There is a process for identifying unacceptable differences, and then it's up to the candidate to decide to reform or not.
Secularism is a requirement, but the overall EU level is nowhere near as strict as some members, like France. The Church is still very influential in Poland and Eire, for example.
Another requirement is that the candidate may not have a death penalty.
True, yet the death penalty was abolished in 2004 - and was only discussed as a possibility of being reinstated after the coup attempt ... the EU never wanted Turkey, just as they never wanted the Ukraine - it is all song and dance for good trade deals - mainly for heating oil (?).............. (my opinion)
I disagree very firmly... and I have been following this topic closely for a long, long time. I live part of the year in the EU. I lived in Turkey as a kid -- a coup occurred then, with tanks in the streets, which I thought was very cool! -- and I worked in Turkey several times about a decade ago.
The EU has a looming demographic problem.The core nations have low birthrates. Germany is way under the replacement rate, and champion France barely over it. Turkey's 140 million population was very much desired.
The problem of course was that Turkey is a Muslim country, while most of Europe, all of the EU, is Christian. (Albania is a candidate, but has a lot of work to do to qualify.) There were a lot of people, and therefore quite a few demagogic politicians, who didn't want a Muslim country in the Union, so it was essential that the Union be seen to be applying "the usual secular standards", and nothing less.
Then came Erdogan.....
Thanks for the info Bob
In what year? Starting in 2002 as Prime Minister .. or in 2014 as President?
In 1987 Turkey applied for bloc membership .. abolished the death penalty in 2004 - began accession talks in 2005. (would the talks are/were frozen be a correct description?)
Everything that you have stated only shows me that the EU is fickle ... as I stated, I do not believe the EU wanted Turkey - only wanted what Turkey had/has to offer ...
I respect your knowledge Bob, I just do not agree. I will do more reading later today ... perhaps then I will adjust my way of thinking.
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From the information you have provided, it would appear that Erdogan words may ring true in regards to the EU.... (?)
1960? 1971?
*HA! you caught me - I am trying to guess your age!
The 1960 coup. I'm now 70.
I returned to Izmir a couple years ago, for the World Basketball Championship. (The Final, Spain-USA, was one of the best games I've ever seen.)
The boulevards are the same, including the big half-roundabout at water's edge where the tanks took station. Our apartment was a few blocks up one of'the streets that leads there, so we had a good view. But our apartment building was gone.
You can't go home again.
Sadly no, returning home is often met with disillusionment - my childhood home is now gone as well.
I have always had a fascination with the Ottoman Empire since I was a kid - reports in grade school etc....
Recently I discovered that my great grandmother on the maternal side was born in Turkey, came to the US as a child (alone) ... met my great grandfather a Russian in Eastern Montana sometime in the early 1900s (we knew where granddad was from) - never found a record that they were ever married, but she took his name (their first surviving child was born in 1912 : )
My Aunt and I were going through some old papers this summer after my grandmothers funeral .. we found a single piece of paper (a death certificate for a baby no one knew about)) with great grands maiden name on it. Secrets of the wild west I guess... my great grandmother was born during the decay of the Ottoman Empire, and I never knew it. She hid it for some reason (NO one will ever know the 'why'....) growing up I recall grandma talking gibberish to herself, now I wonder if she was not speaking in her native tongue, Turkish, perhaps Kurdish (?) I will never know!
(I may need to do one of those DNA tests to find out who I am : )
Oooops my bad, got way off topic!
Perhaps a bit off topic, but interesting. You need to get a DNA test done.
The Bush debacle could be a factor. I am going to have to do some research and keep and open mind to see what I can glean - but I sincerely feel as though the prospects of becoming an EU member has been a carrot on a stick... Turkey was a member of the Council of Europe in 1949 (?) is not that the predecessor to the European Union? I could be wrong...
I will be doing more reading when I get on my computer this evening ... do not like getting in depth information on my tablet (prefer my big screen when doing much reading)
Yes I do, but it is strangely a bit spooky .. I have ordered the kit!
For the European Union, demographics from birth rate differences and migration are going to make a big difference in those nations over the next half century. Europe has already changed considerably from when I was there around half a century ago. We will not recognize it for what it once was. I have as much desire now to go to Europe as I have to go to Yemen, Iran, Syria or Gaza.
If you haven't been there in half a century, Buzz... how do you know if you'd like it or not?
You're aware, I'm pretty sure, that negative press sells better than happy press, so what you've been reading is maybe a teeny-tiny bit... off.
You can close your eyes to what's happening there all you want, Bob, it's no skin off my teeth. I've seen enough videos and photos and stories from reliable sources to convince me. The number of Jews who are fleeing to Israel and North America tells me something that's perhaps not so poignant to you.
My sister, who is Jewish and a militant Zionist, once berated me with numbers about how many French were suddenly emigrating to Israel after a spate of anti-Semite vandalism. I did the math for her. It would have taken a century to "evacuate" the Jewish population. And of course, when the spate of violence died down, so did the emigration.
There are lots of problems in our poor little world, and Islam in Europe is indeed a problem. But very, very minor compared to so many others. And many of those others have a chance of swallowing "Islam/Europe" whole.
I don't deny that there are difficulties, but I try to maintain perspective.
I did the kit. The results totally blew me away. Instead of being 3/4 Italian as I always thought I was, I am 52% British. That could explain why I love darts and black and tans.
LMAO, do you try to drive on the ''wrong'' side of the road Kathleen?
Cheers.
Kathleen, you said you discovered that you were 52% British and liked darts and black and tans. I just added in a question on what side of the road you drive on...The Brits drive on the opposite side of the road then we do.
Lol actually Paula Bartholmew said she discovered she was 52% British and you responded asking Kathleen if she liked to drive on the wrong side of the road. It's just a little bit of humorous comment confusion going on.
I did mix you up, it was Paula that I should have addressed. But, I do have an excuse, both of you ladies are class acts so it was easy to mix you up.
Kavika, tap dancing his way out of the article...LOL
they told me that channeling Fred Astair doesn't work around here.... Jack Benny on the other hand.....
Well, we're both 39 years old...
That was me, not Kathleen
I did mix you up with Kathleen, here is my apology..
I did mix you up, it was Paula that I should have addressed. But, I do have an excuse, both of you ladies are class acts so it was easy to mix you up.
Kavika, tap dancing his way out of the article...LOL
Yes??
As your article states (without emphasis, since it's something of a "scare" piece) departures are declining.
France has some 10 million Muslims. Let's say one-tenth of one percent are nutzoids. That's ten thousand nutzoids.
The Austrian government is now being formed by a coalition that disagrees with the EU demand for welcoming vast numbers of immigrants, and it is going to take some drastic steps to rid the nation of illegal immigrants. Why is this happening? Why are there Eastern European member nations of the EU who are refusing to comply with the EU requirements to settle immigrants? It seems that some are starting to look at the demographics and differing birth rates and coming to the realization that Europe will not be recognizable for what it has been, by mid-century. From what I'm now seeing what Trudeau and his Liberal government are doing, Canada as well will not be anyplace to which I have any desire to return.
For the same reason the President of the United States is banning immigration from some countries.
Xenophobia and demagoguery.
Maybe so, in your opinion, but on the other hand, maybe it's to curtail terrorism.
All those terrorist attacks in... Austria???
I am going to take it ... I have always thought I was German, Irish and Dutch - now I have NO clue - I have read stories like yours where the family tales of ethnicity were WAY off ... think I am about to find out for myself - I could be of Royalty and don't know it! ... LOL
Think the email said my kit will be here Tuesday - I will report back when I get the results
I ain't callin' ya, yer Majesty.
Damn'dit foiled again.....
I did a little research and Turkey has the highest number of journalists imprisoned in the world.
A very telling sign of things to come in Turkey.
Erdogan is an insane Dictator who arrests journalists and teachers and anyone who opposes him much like his friend and ally Vladimir Putin. Trump admires both Erdogan and Putin for their ability to abandon any semblance of a freedom of the press and just murder their way out of any accountability.
I'm not so sure about Putin, but do you have any unbiased source or other proof that Trump admires Erdogan for anything? I know that Obama considered Erdogan to be a good friend.
In Sept. 2017 this is what Trump had to say about Erdogan...
Yesterday, Erdogan said Turkey aims to open an embassy in East Jerusalem. It's getting stranger and stranger.
Erdogan is seeking a modern Ottoman Empire ... ummm of course he would be the leader/Sultan ..
It could possibly be called the United Republic of Islam (?) Erdogan is tight with Iran and Russia .. now Russia is the military might in the region - with Turkey having the second largest military in NATO..
Here is an interesting read .. think I seeded it sometime last week..
Here is the full article if you cannot access the whole article and are interested in reading it..
Either Trump has no idea what words come out of his mouth or else he speaks with a forked tongue.
If Erdogan builds an embassy ANYWHERE in Jerusalem, as far as I am concerned he is building it in ISRAEL.
May I choose "Both of the above"?