Trump ousts Tillerson, will replace him as secretary of state with CIA chief Pompeo

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Trump ousts Tillerson, will replace him as secretary of state with CIA chief Pompeo

Trump ousts Tillerson, will replace him as secretary of state with CIA chief Pompeo

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-ousts-tillerson-will-replace-him-as-secretary-of-state-with-cia-chief-pompeo/ar-BBKaaqF?li=BBnb7Kz

President Trump has ousted Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and replaced him with CIA Director Mike Pompeo, orchestrating a major change to his national security team amid delicate negotiations with North Korea, White House officials said Tuesday.

Trump last Friday asked Tillerson to step aside, and the embattled top diplomat cut short his trip to Africa on Monday to return to Washington.

Pompeo will replace him at the State Department, and Gina Hapsel — the deputy director at the CIA — will succeed him at the CIA, becoming the first woman to run the spy agency, if confirmed.

In a statement issued to The Washington Post, Trump praised both Pompeo and Haspel.

“I am proud to nominate the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency, Mike Pompeo, to be our new Secretary of State,” Trump said. “Mike graduated first in his class at West Point, served with distinction in the U.S. Army, and graduated with Honors from Harvard Law School. He went on to serve in the U.S. House of Representatives with a proven record of working across the aisle.”

The president continued, “Gina Haspel, the Deputy Director of the CIA, will be nominated to replace Director Pompeo and she will be the CIA’s first-ever female director, a historic milestone. Mike and Gina have worked together for more than a year, and have developed a great mutual respect.”

Trump also had words of praise for Tillerson: “Finally, I want to thank Rex Tillerson for his service. A great deal has been accomplished over the last fourteen months, and I wish him and his family well.”

The president — who has long clashed will Tillerson, who he believes is “too establishment” in his thinking — felt it was important to make the change now, as he prepares for talks with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, as well as upcoming trade negotiations, three White House officials said.

“I am deeply grateful to President Trump for permitting me to serve as Director of the Central Intelligence Agency and for this opportunity to serve as Secretary of State,” Pompeo said in a statement. “His leadership has made America safer and I look forward to representing him and the American people to the rest of the world to further America’s prosperity. Serving alongside the great men and women of the CIA, the most dedicated and talented public servants I have encountered, has been one of the great honors of my life.”

Haspel in a statement also said she was excited for her promotion.

“After 30 years as an officer of the Central Intelligence Agency, it has been my honor to serve as its Deputy Director alongside Mike Pompeo for the past year,” she said. “I am grateful to President Trump for the opportunity, and humbled by his confidence in me, to be nominated to be the next Director of the Central Intelligence Agency.”

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JBB
1  seeder  JBB    9 months ago

I guess being honest by pointing out Trump is a "Moron" was too much truth for The King of Vulgaria...

 
 
Greg Jones
1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  JBB @1    9 months ago

Another brilliant tactical move by Teflon Don.

 
 
JBB
1.1.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    9 months ago

I don't think so...

 
 
Dismayed Patriot
1.1.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    9 months ago
Another brilliant tactical move by Teflon Don.

It's beyond sad that even his supporters give him mobster nick names, but accurate. This is the most corrupt administration in the history of the United States surpassing even the Nixon white house. Trump is indeed nothing but a two bit mobster bullying people to get what he wants because he has zero experience at governing.

 
 
MrFrost
1.1.3  MrFrost  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    9 months ago
Another brilliant tactical move by Teflon Don.

Um, how? Why hire him in the first place? 

 
 
Dismayed Patriot
1.1.4  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  MrFrost @1.1.3    9 months ago
Um, how? Why hire him in the first place?

Trump supporters imagine him playing 3 dimensional chess but the reality is he's playing tic-tac-toe with himself...

 
 
igknorantzrulz
1.1.5  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1.4    9 months ago
Trump supporters imagine him playing 3 dimensional chess but the reality is he's playing tic-tac-toe

Do "Trump supporters" even know what 3 dimensional chess is ?

 
 
Dismayed Patriot
1.1.6  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  igknorantzrulz @1.1.5    9 months ago
Do "Trump supporters" even know what 3 dimensional chess is ?

Fair point. I wouldn't doubt they think it must be a game played with four crossed lines and some "X's" and "O's". Anything more complicated than that goes over their heads.

 
 
Randy
1.1.7  Randy  replied to  igknorantzrulz @1.1.5    9 months ago
Do "Trump supporters" even know what 3 dimensional chess is ?

They're still struggling to master checkers.

The world is much more complicated the even 3 dimensional chess. Dealing with foreign policy alone is like dealing with hundreds of floating parts all over the surface of the world that are all moving all of the time and the movement of each can affect the movement of every other one. If you make a deal with one, which you must to make your position stronger, you must make sure it only affects the movement of friends of yours positively because it will affect the movement of every other one all at once including ones on the other side of the world that you had no idea it would. However it might also accidentally affect the position of the enemy of one of your's friend's enemy who doing it because of something your friend has to do and they start attacking your friend for something you did in making your position strong with another nation and by this point Donald Trump's attention span has long passed he'll give up and do something completely unrelated.

BTW, my wife and I can NOT be the only [people who when we see Trump looking down like he does a lot like in the picture above and like he does when address crowds that he bares an amazing resemblance to Il Duce. I mean the turning of the head, face suddenly up in the air, looking down his nose, the strut away from the microphone for a second, when he is giving a speech and is particularly satisfied with something he just said. He has been watching WWII movies. He IS Mussolini!

 
 
JBB
2  seeder  JBB    9 months ago

It will be interesting to read what Tillerson has to say about the utter disfunction of Trump's White House...

 
 
MrFrost
3  MrFrost    9 months ago

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lady in black
4  lady in black    9 months ago

That's 2 this week.....also President Donald Trump’s personal assistant, John McEntee, was escorted out of the White House on Monday, two senior administration officials said. The cause of the firing was an unspecified security issue, said a third White House official with knowledge of the situation.

And deporables see nothing wrong with the way this WH admin functions....sad, really sad.

This isn't a presidency, this is a farce and it's sad that this is the new normal for the President of the United States.

 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
5  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom    9 months ago

Napoleon had it right:  'Never interrupt an enemy when he is making a mistake.'  So carry on, Donald.  Keep stepping in your own shit.

 
 
JBB
5.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @5    9 months ago

Regarding Trump lifting off and Napoleon's exile I have this one word to offer in comfort, Elba...

Not unlike The King of Vulgaria the Emperor of France had yuge hangups about his tiny...hands.

 
 
Dismayed Patriot
5.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @5    9 months ago
So carry on, Donald.  Keep stepping in your own shit.

Sadly his followers are so stupid they keep buying his lame excuses. They actually believe that shit even they smell is just fertilizer to grow jobs and the economy. Putin could release the pee tape and the Trump supporters will just claim there's nothing wrong with having underage Russian prostitutes pee on you. They've moved the goal posts so often no one even remembers where they are anymore, they're just ignorantly screaming "Touchdown!" every time Trump makes another stupid decision or major gaff.

 
 
igknorantzrulz
5.3  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @5    9 months ago
Keep stepping in your own shit.

no shortage of fertilizer in the proximity of Trump

 
 
XDm9mm
6  XDm9mm    9 months ago

Anyone not expecting this is to be candid, a moron.

Tillerson, while good for a time, had outlived his usefulness.   Trump and Tillerson simply had too many divergent and opposing views.  Tillerson essentially wanted to continue the America wealth stealing free trade nonsense that has helped get us into the financial situation we find ourselves in.

As to Haspel, she's a great choice for the job.  She is a no nonsense SIS (Senior Intelligence Service) professional with a depth of knowledge few enjoy.  The best part is that she is willing to admit she doesn't know something and asks someone in a meeting to give her an offline briefing to bring her up to speed so it doesn't interfere with the rest of the meeting.  She commands and receives great respect among agency staffers that have worked or do work with her.

 
 
Thrawn 31
6.1  Thrawn 31  replied to  XDm9mm @6    9 months ago
Trump and Tillerson simply had too many divergent and opposing views. 

Another way of saying Trump is all over the fucking place from minute to minute and Tillerson was wholly unqualified for the job. 

illerson essentially wanted to continue the America wealth stealing free trade nonsense that has helped get us into the financial situation we find ourselves in.

And what situation is that? Mine is pretty damn good.

 
 
XDm9mm
6.1.1  XDm9mm  replied to  Thrawn 31 @6.1    9 months ago

Another way of saying Trump is all over the fucking place from minute to minute and Tillerson was wholly unqualified for the job. 

In the view of the uninformed.

And what situation is that? Mine is pretty damn good.

Oh, my personal situation is actually better than good.  As a country, we're pretty well phucked.   Everyone talks about the debt, (which I believe we can fairly easily pay off) but they don't talk about the unfunded liabilities.  

Additionally, we're phucked by other countries that we allow to export and we import product effectively duty free while they tax us into oblivion.   

 
 
Sparty On
6.2  Sparty On  replied to  XDm9mm @6    9 months ago

Hmmmm ..... a woman running the CIA?? ..... the first woman to do so by the way.

How could this happen?   Trump being a misogynist and all ..... /s

 
 
XDm9mm
6.2.1  XDm9mm  replied to  Sparty On @6.2    9 months ago

Having sat in a few meetings with her in attendance, she is NOT one to be trifled with.  She is one of the few SIS I know that I actually have respect for in that she actually DESERVES the position due to work and results as opposed to simply being the political asswipe butt kisser.

 
 
Dismayed Patriot
6.2.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sparty On @6.2    9 months ago
How could this happen?   Trump being a misogynist and all

Trump has picked token cabinet members like Ben Carson and Betsy DeVos so it's not all that surprising, but the fact remains 95% of his choices have been white males who have professed loyalty to him and not the country. Tillerson was actually trying to do a decent job of diplomacy for the country which was unexpected and also the reason he was fired. The idiot in chief couldn't stand having someone more loyal to the nation than to him so he had to go. 

 
 
XDm9mm
6.2.3  XDm9mm  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @6.2.2    9 months ago
but the fact remains 95% of his choices have been white males who have professed loyalty to him and not the country.

And you know this "fact" how exactly?   Please be specific.

 
 
lib50
6.2.4  lib50  replied to  XDm9mm @6.2.3    9 months ago

Here are a few, but feel free to hunt for yourself, this isn't opinion, these are facts on the ground.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-trump-effect-diversity/white-and-male-broader-bureaucracy-mirrors-trump-cabinets-profile-idUSKBN1CP1D1

Now, recently available government data on the ethnic and gender make-up of the broader Trump administration shows that with over 1,000 mid-level political jobs filled by mid-year the appointees look much like the top leadership: mostly white and male. Office of Personnel Management numbers analyzed by Reuters show that 88 percent of such appointees were non-Hispanic white and 62 percent were men.

By comparison, in the final year of Barack Obama's Democratic administration, non-Hispanic whites made up 67 percent of that group and men accounted for 47 percent - closer to what the U.S. population looks like. Non-Hispanic whites account for 61 percent and men make up 49 percent, according to 2016 census data. (Graphic: tmsnrt.rs/2xOf1ip)

“This administration so far has not in any direct sense prioritized diversity,” said Max Stier, president of the Partnership for Public Service, a non-partisan group that tracks federal hiring, when presented with Reuters’ findings.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-trump-blacks-judges-20171113-story.html

So far, 91 percent of Trump's nominees are white, and 81 percent are male, an Associated Press analysis has found. Three of every four are white men, with few African-Americans and Hispanics in the mix. The last president to nominate a similarly homogenous group was George H.W. Bush.

http://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-diversity-white-house-trump-huckabee-sanders-omarosa-748673

 
 
XDm9mm
6.2.5  XDm9mm  replied to  lib50 @6.2.4    9 months ago
who have professed loyalty to him and not the country.

SPECIFICS please.

 
 
Dismayed Patriot
6.2.6  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  XDm9mm @6.2.3    9 months ago
And you know this "fact" how exactly?   Please be specific.

I apologize for ball-parking that number, but my point remains:

"of the broader Trump administration shows that with over 1,000 mid-level political jobs filled by mid-year the appointees look much like the top leadership: mostly white and male. Office of Personnel Management numbers analyzed by Reuters show that 88 percent of such appointees were non-Hispanic white and 62 percent were men."

"Out of the Trump administration’s 24 top cabinet-level positions, 17 are filled by white men."

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-trump-effect-diversity/white-and-male-broader-bureaucracy-mirrors-trump-cabinets-profile-idUSKBN1CP1D1

 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
6.2.7  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @6.2.6    9 months ago
I apologize

Skirting the CoC [ph]  We call them out on the monstrous BS all the time and they just triple down on it. 

 
 
Dismayed Patriot
6.2.8  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @6.2.7    9 months ago
You never should feel obligated to apologize to the trolls.

I refuse to sink to their level is all. I did a quick calculation in my head of his top cabinet picks and was off by a few percent so I have no problem correcting the record and admitting I over estimated. I wasn't off by much, but I'd rather fix my error than to act like a lying Trump supporter.

 
 
XDm9mm
6.2.9  XDm9mm  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @6.2.6    9 months ago

who have professed loyalty to him and not the country.

Once again, specifics please.

 
 
Trout Giggles
6.2.10  Trout Giggles  replied to  XDm9mm @6.2.1    9 months ago
she is NOT one to be trifled with.

That's good. It would be a relief to find a woman in trump's admin with a backbone

 
 
lib50
6.2.11  lib50  replied to  XDm9mm @6.2.5    9 months ago
SPECIFICS please.

Since I'm not in the mood to hunt, I'll speak from observation.  Trump has asked everybody for allegiance and loyalty.  He doesn't forget personal slights and he thinks his administration work for him as opposed to the country.  Trump has acted out and spoken those things.

 
 
Dismayed Patriot
6.2.12  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  XDm9mm @6.2.9    9 months ago
Once again, specifics please.

"A Republican senator said Thursday President Donald Trump's loyalty request of former FBI Director James Comey was similar to what he asked of his Cabinet members when they were interviewed."

"Sen. James Lankford, R-Okla., appeared on Fox News and seemed to take the president's side on the matter.

"That sounds exactly like [how] the president spoke to every other cabinet official in the process," Lankford said."

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/james-lankford-trump-cabinet-members/2017/06/08/id/794934/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/06/13/trumps-need-praise-turns-americans-tellusatoday/102820306/

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/12/us/politics/trump-boasts-of-record-setting-pace-of-activity.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/praise-for-the-chief--trumps-cabinet-tells-him-its-an-honor-privilege-blessing-to-serve/2017/06/12/ddd3919e-4fa4-11e7-91eb-9611861a988f_story.html?utm_term=.6e05a9a9a3f8

 
 
igknorantzrulz
6.2.13  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.2.10    9 months ago
It would be a relief to find a woman in trump's admin with a backbone

Stormy Daniels ?

 
 
Dismayed Patriot
6.2.14  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  igknorantzrulz @6.2.13    9 months ago
Stormy Daniels ?

I think he thinks the new CIA head will have a "backbone" and stand up for American ideals, not the women Trump prefers which are those he can just bone on their backs...

 
 
igknorantzrulz
6.2.15  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @6.2.14    9 months ago
I think he thinks the new CIA head will have a "backbone" and stand up for American ideals

Not so sure Trump cares so much for "American ideals", as I didn't mean to be Russian judgment meant for  another  to judge, as to what the jury, would be pondering about, for so damn long already...get the damn executioner over here already!

 
 
Sparty On
6.2.16  Sparty On  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @6.2.2    9 months ago
Trump has picked token cabinet members

And yet ....  it looks like he is appointing the first woman to head the CIA.   Trump, not Obama, not Bush, not Clinton .....

She is a very qualified candidate from the sounds of it but i suspect the Dems on the appointment committee will turn her hearings into to a giant goat-fock like usual.  

You see, they can go after a woman in real life without being "accused" of misogyny.   Trump just has to be "accused" of misogyny to be a misogynist.

 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
6.2.17  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Sparty On @6.2.16    9 months ago
She is a very qualified candidate from the sounds of it but i suspect the Dems on the appointment committee will turn her hearings into to a giant goat-fock like usual.

She authorized and supervised the torture of Iraqi prisoners so she's perfect for(Deleted Skirting the CoC [SP])

 
 
Sparty On
6.2.18  Sparty On  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @6.2.17    9 months ago

And there it is .....

 
 
Dismayed Patriot
6.2.19  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  igknorantzrulz @6.2.15    9 months ago
Not so sure Trump cares so much for "American ideals"

I was referring to Trout Giggles, not Trump.

 
 
Dismayed Patriot
6.2.20  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sparty On @6.2.16    9 months ago
She is a very qualified candidate

If the task was waterboarding the trump campaign members then yes, she would be more than qualified. I wonder how long it would take for them all to confess to collusion as well as sucking Putins minuscule member? I'll bet they would break after an hour and confess to whatever you wanted them to which is the whole problem with torture. Trump supporters would no doubt approve torturing Muslims, but put one of Trumps inner circle under the wet towel and they'll be whining and screaming with indignation as to how torture doesn't gain any actionable intelligence.

 
 
Sparty On
6.2.21  Sparty On  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @6.2.20    9 months ago
If the task was waterboarding the trump

Oh, one can only dream ..... it would be great to get folks like the Clintons and Obama under the one of those as well.

Oh the secrets we would learn ...... well not so much "learn" but rather "prove" what we already suspect.

 
 
Dismayed Patriot
6.2.22  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sparty On @6.2.21    9 months ago
Oh the secrets we would learn ...... well not so much "learn" but rather "prove"

No, you wouldn't "prove" anything which was my point. Torture gives bad evidence. Sure, you could torture Obama to the point he's saying he was born in Kenya and his birth notices in the Hawaii papers at the time were planted by a cabal of Muslim leaders hoping one day to place their Manchurian candidate in the white house. He'd say he was the Pope if that's what you wanted to hear from him, torture doesn't work and the new CIA head was running torture sites. Trump would admit that he raped and murdered his father Fred if that's what it would take to stop the torture, yet he's an advocate for torturing Muslims into saying they're terrorists. It's beyond shameful but that's how stupid trump supporters are.

 
 
Sparty On
6.2.23  Sparty On  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @6.2.22    9 months ago
No, you wouldn't "prove" anything which was my point.

Which only goes to show how obtuse and/or biased your opinion is.

 
 
ArkansasHermit-too
6.2.24  ArkansasHermit-too  replied to  XDm9mm @6.2.3    9 months ago

but the fact remains 95% of his choices have been white males who have professed loyalty to him and not the country.

And you know this "fact" how exactly? Please be specific.

Image result for trump, cabinet meeting, gif

Trump’s Cabinet, With a Prod, Extols the ‘Blessing’ of Serving Him

Members of President Trump’s cabinet paid tribute to him, one by one, during a cabinet meeting on Monday

WASHINGTON — One by one, they praised President Trump, taking turns complimenting his integrity, his message, his strength, his policies. Their leader sat smiling, nodding his approval.

“The greatest privilege of my life is to serve as vice president to the president who’s keeping his word to the American people,” Mike Pence said, starting things off.

“I am privileged to be here — deeply honored — and I want to thank you for your commitment to the American workers,” said Alexander Acosta, the secretary of labor.

Sonny Perdue, the agriculture secretary, had just returned from Mississippi and had a message to deliver. “They love you there,” he offered, grinning across the antique table at Mr. Trump.

Reince Priebus, the chief of staff whose job insecurity has been the subject of endless speculation, outdid them all, telling the president — and the assembled news cameras — “We thank you for the opportunity and the blessing to serve your agenda.”

So it went on Monday in the Cabinet Room of the White House, as Mr. Trump transformed a routine meeting of senior members of his government into a mood-boosting, ego-stroking display of support for himself and his agenda. While the president never explicitly asked to be praised, Mr. Pence set the worshipful tone, and Mr. Trump made it clear he liked what he heard.

............................

“I ran 16 Cabinet meetings during Obama’s 1st term,” Chris Lu, former President Barack Obama’s cabinet secretary, wrote on Twitter. “Our Cabinet was never told to sing Obama’s praises. He wanted candid advice not adulation.”

The show of support for the president was in keeping with an intense effort by the White House to boost Mr. Trump’s mood and change the subject from Mr. Comey’s damaging testimony last week.

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How hard did Trump have to work to find sooo many syncopath's to sit around one table and sing his undeserved praise showing how they were willing to putt their loyalty to him above their own personal honor and the needs of the Country.

That whole episode was sicking to watch.

 
 
Dismayed Patriot
6.2.25  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sparty On @6.2.23    9 months ago
Which only goes to show how obtuse and/or biased your opinion is.

Recognizing that torture does not provide accurate or trustworthy intelligence isn't obtuse, it's based on hard facts.

 
 
Ozzwald
6.3  Ozzwald  replied to  XDm9mm @6    9 months ago
Trump and Tillerson simply had too many divergent and opposing views.

Yup, Tillerson had the unmitigated gall to openly agree with our allies that Russia was to blame for the poisoning of the former Russian spy in London.  I'm sure Trump didn't like it when Tillerson called out his buddy Putin on that.

 
 
Randy
6.3.1  Randy  replied to  Ozzwald @6.3    9 months ago

And that is what it really is. Her openly condemned Russia when they were wrong one too many times, even though he was right when they were wrong! One must not say anything bad about Trump's anything bad about Trump's banker or Daddy spank!!

 
 
MrFrost
6.4  MrFrost  replied to  XDm9mm @6    9 months ago
outlived his usefulness.

In one year? LMAO!!! What about the other what...14 people that trump has fired or have quit in the first year? He said he hires only the best people and every one of these people trump said would do a fantastic job, the best in history....but now they are gone in less that a year? By all means, spin away,,, LOL

 
 
Thrawn 31
7  Thrawn 31    9 months ago

I would be so happy if I were Tillerson, working with Trump must be a nightmare. Of course, I probably would have quit months ago.

 
 
JBB
8  seeder  JBB    9 months ago

I expect Tillerson has already been offered a YUGE book deal. I think is should be an interesting read...

 
 
bbl-1
10  bbl-1    9 months ago

Tillerson is out.  Trump said he ( Tillerson ) "Would be very happy."  I assume Trump's comment is accurate.  The further one gets away from Trump the better off they are.

Pompeo?  Pompeo hitched himself on that 'Trump Train' early on.  And now he can blow the train's whistle if the Trump allows.  On the other hand, there is something about Pompeo that reeks of deceit and untrustworthiness. 

 
 
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