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Questions about Comey's past testimony

  

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By:  vic-eldred  •  7 years ago  •  59 comments

Questions about Comey's past testimony

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The recent comments of Andrew McCabe contradict the previous testimony of James Comey. First and foremost was the statement that McCabe had permission from then director Comey to allow agents to talk to the media. Comey told Grassley in no uncertain terms that he did not!
There is also a major contradiction between when McCabe said he knew about the Weiner e-mails and when Comey testified he knew about them.

Somebody is lying, we know both have already lied and both have already leaked information to the media. This presents a problem for Bob Mueller in ever using McCabe or Comey as a witness


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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    7 years ago

Thanks Andy

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1  Ozzwald  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    7 years ago
Thanks Andy

Wow, just have to say that this article is way over in in right wing lala land.  The only people that believe McCabe contradicts Comey, are people that did not read it for themselves.  Read their testimonies for yourself and you will see that they do not.  The questions partially overlap, but are not contradicting each other.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1    7 years ago

Comey testified that he didn't leak, nor did he permit anyone else to do so. McCabe who was caught red-handed having agents leak to the media, claimed he had Comey's permission. That's not a contradiction?

Let's get real

 
 
 
luther28
Sophomore Silent
2  luther28    7 years ago

Somebody is lying

Oh I think there may be quite a few liars floating about in the cesspool. Mueller will eventually sift through them, but there may be great disappointment when they are revealed.

Based on the daily rhetoric coming from the administration, lying has risen to an art form (though the lies are not very artful at all). But I suppose we will just have to wait and see.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  luther28 @2    7 years ago
Mueller will eventually sift through them

No, Mueller is looking everywhere but at his own FBI or the Clinton campaign, which really did collude with Russia

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
2.1.1  cjcold  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    7 years ago

Since Putin hates Hillary and Hillary hates Putin, that statement makes no sense. (what else is new). 

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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2.1.2  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    7 years ago
No, Mueller is looking everywhere but at his own FBI or the Clinton campaign, which really did collude with Russia

The Clinton campaign colluded with Russia...so they could lose the election?  

Whether or not one hates or loves Hillary Clinton, there is one thing that has been obvious since she made the decision to stand by her husband through his idiotic indiscretions:  She wanted to be the first woman elected POTUS, and was willing to put up with anything just to have a better chance of that happening.  So saying that the Clinton campaign colluded with Russia, is absurd.  It's like saying that Hillary Clinton wanted to lose the election, and that just ain't true.

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
Professor Quiet
2.1.3  Dean Moriarty  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @2.1.2    7 years ago

She wouldn't have stayed with that boat anchor of a husband dragging her down if she wanted to win. What kind of wimp would vote for a doormat. 

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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2.1.4  Colour Me Free  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @2.1.2    7 years ago

Good point Sister Mary Agnes .. I think that is a factor often over looked when talking about H.'s loss in 2016.

I personally was not ready for a woman president if H. was the choice, in part because of her choice to 'stand by her man'  I really do not know that many women, but the few that I do know and have conversation with .. were turned off by H. coming out and saying something to the effect of 'women should be believed' regarding sexual assault / harassment ..... coming from her, it was disingenuous at best.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
Professor Guide
2.1.5  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Dean Moriarty @2.1.3    7 years ago
She wouldn't have stayed with that boat anchor of a husband dragging her down if she wanted to win.

What do you mean 'if she wanted to win'?  She wanted it so badly that she would have stood by her husband had he whupped out his pecker and peed in the Waterford crystal punch bowl at the last inaugural ball.  It's also worthy to note that divorce was still considered scandal-worthy back then.  It wouldn't surprise me one bit if she facilitated a written deal with the democratic powers that be:  I'll take one for the team if you folks make a serious effort to get me elected POTUS.   

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
2.1.6  Jasper2529  replied to  Dean Moriarty @2.1.3    7 years ago
She wouldn't have stayed with that boat anchor of a husband dragging her down if she wanted to win. What kind of wimp would vote for a doormat. 

65,844,610 wimps.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
2.1.7  Sean Treacy  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @2.1.2    7 years ago
o saying that the Clinton campaign colluded with Russia, is absurd.  It's like saying that Hillary Clinton wanted to lose the election, and that just ain't true.

YOu don't seem to understand. She colluded with Russia, (getting fake information about Trump from Kremlin connected officials and peddling it to the media in the run up to the election) thinking it would help her win. The Russians simply used her to accomplish their own goals.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  cjcold @2.1.1    7 years ago

Fact:

Her campaign paid for the Steele Dossier

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.9  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @2.1.2    7 years ago
So saying that the Clinton campaign colluded with Russia, is absurd.

It is fact

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
2.1.10  Krishna  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.8    7 years ago

When I read absurd comments like those...I find it helps to have amusic like this playing in the background:

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
2.1.11  Jasper2529  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @2.1.5    7 years ago
What do you mean 'if she wanted to win'?  She wanted it so badly that she would have stood by her husband had he whupped out his pecker and peed in the Waterford crystal punch bowl at the last inaugural ball.  It's also worthy to note that divorce was still considered scandal-worthy back then.  It wouldn't surprise me one bit if she facilitated a written deal with the democratic powers that be:  I'll take one for the team if you folks make a serious effort to get me elected POTUS.

I agree that Hillary desperately wanted to win the presidency both in 2008 and 2016. Her growing list of excuses for why she lost (42 and counting) and still being on a what happened tour speak volumes about those issues.

Where I disagree is with your comment about divorce. The Clintons married in 1975 and accusations of his sexual issues were already known. I won't speculate on why she chose to marry a man who had such a sketchy sexual history. All I'll say is that divorce was no longer a "scandal" in the late 1960s and has been in "full bloom" from the 1970s onward.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
2.1.12  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    7 years ago
Mueller is looking everywhere but at his own FBI or the Clinton campaign, which really did collude with Russia

Mueller's not charged with looking into the FBI but whenvever there's been even the slimmest appearance of misbehavior within his purview he's addressed it. 

Deleted - skirting {SP}

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.13  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @2.1.12    7 years ago

He's not charged with the business affairs of Manafort and Trump either, but he is into it - at least the FBI misconduct is related - It's how the investigation was launched.

Deleted CoC {SP}

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
2.2  Jasper2529  replied to  luther28 @2    7 years ago
Based on the daily rhetoric coming from the administration, lying has risen to an art form

Since your comment alludes to Trump lying, do you believe that he ordered Comey and McCabe to lie about his own administration?

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
2.2.1  cjcold  replied to  Jasper2529 @2.2    7 years ago

YES!

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
2.2.2  Jasper2529  replied to  cjcold @2.2.1    7 years ago

So you actually believe that Trump is trying to destroy his own presidency.

laughing dude

 
 
 
Explorerdog
Freshman Silent
2.2.3  Explorerdog  replied to  Jasper2529 @2.2.2    7 years ago

Is there something more that he could do?

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
2.2.4  Jasper2529  replied to  Explorerdog @2.2.3    7 years ago
Is there something more that he could do?

Before I could possibly answer that vague comment, I would need to know what you mean by "something more".

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
2.2.5  lib50  replied to  Jasper2529 @2.2.2    7 years ago
So you actually believe that Trump is trying to destroy his own presidency.

He can't help himself.  His ego and narcissism is so extreme he can't let anything go.  He thinks he knows more than anybody else and says whatever he wants.  He has no awareness whatsoever of how it is perceived until he sees the fallout.  There is actually something called behavioral science that helps explain.  He is his own worst enemy.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
2.2.6  Jasper2529  replied to  lib50 @2.2.5    7 years ago
He can't help himself.  His ego and narcissism is so extreme he can't let anything go.  He thinks he knows more than anybody else and says whatever he wants.  He has no awareness whatsoever of how it is perceived until he sees the fallout.  There is actually something called behavioral science that helps explain.  He is his own worst enemy.

Although he is not the topic, you did a good job in describing Barack Obama's behavior and comments. Thank you.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.2.7  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  lib50 @2.2.5    7 years ago
He is his own worst enemy.

Then I guess he should thank the IG investigating the FBI

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
2.2.8  cjcold  replied to  Jasper2529 @2.2.6    7 years ago

And yet the rest of the world (other than republicans) thinks Obama was the best American President ever.

 
 
 
Randy
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2.2.9  Randy  replied to  Jasper2529 @2.2.2    7 years ago
So you actually believe that Trump is trying to destroy his own presidency.

Yes.

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
2.2.10  bbl-1  replied to  Jasper2529 @2.2.4    7 years ago

Something more Trump could do.  Well he could have the Mercers and a Russian oligarch pay Daniels $200 million and have her just go away.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
2.2.11  Jasper2529  replied to  cjcold @2.2.8    7 years ago
And yet the rest of the world (other than republicans) thinks Obama was the best American President ever.

Really? Digging a whole

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
2.2.12  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Jasper2529 @2.2.2    7 years ago
So you actually believe that Trump is trying to destroy his own presidency.

No, he's just desperate to save his own worthless, lying and demented ass. He is not a rational person. 

 
 
 
Randy
Sophomore Quiet
2.2.13  Randy  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @2.2.12    7 years ago

And he is losing.

 
 
 
Rmando
Sophomore Silent
3  Rmando    7 years ago

Comey and McCabe's memos are worthless since they are proven liars and leakers. Comey didn't even the guts to leak things himself but went through a professor friend of his. Trumps decision to fire him is looking better all the time.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Rmando @3    7 years ago

Yup, those memo's are now worthless!

 
 
 
Explorerdog
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3.1.1  Explorerdog  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    7 years ago

Faux and fiends said so, must be true. The only way they are worthless is when they are compared to the truly damning evidence that is probably already in hand, hell even jr's wife has hired a CRIMINAL lawyer for her divorce, what does she know.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Explorerdog @3.1.1    7 years ago

The IG (an Obama appointee) say's so.  Even your sad ass CNN can admit that much!

 
 
 
Spikegary
Junior Quiet
3.1.3  Spikegary  replied to  Explorerdog @3.1.1    7 years ago
that is probably already in hand

And there's the key.  Probably.  Do you think if there was anything remotely like true facts in hand, they wouldn't be leaked already?  In this day and age?  Of course they would.  Within minutes of receipt.

 
 
 
Explorerdog
Freshman Silent
3.1.4  Explorerdog  replied to  Spikegary @3.1.3    7 years ago

Perhaps the integrity that defines Mueller has been so conspicuously absent in the current administration has become perceived as normal, don't forget that this is a high stakes game. Mueller doe not want to be the historical figure remembered for allowing the elected despot to continue the deterioration of the United States on his watch. When Trump is charged will you even then admit he is as bad as advertised?

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
3.1.5  cjcold  replied to  Explorerdog @3.1.1    7 years ago

Trump is toast and even his staunchest backers know it. Talk about losers.

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
3.1.6  lib50  replied to  Spikegary @3.1.3    7 years ago
leaked already?

Leaks aren't coming out of Mueller.  They are coming from the outside, from people he is calling in for interviews and those around them, not from within.  Most of those leaks are coming from those in the Trump orbit. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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3.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Rmando @3    7 years ago

More is being revealed every day about the crimes and indiscretions of the Obama administration and the Hillary campaign. We should see another special investigation getting started before long.

 
 
 
Explorerdog
Freshman Silent
3.2.1  Explorerdog  replied to  Greg Jones @3.2    7 years ago

Yup look over there something shiny, see it? It' right over there, go look.

 
 
 
owlsview677
Freshman Silent
3.2.2  owlsview677  replied to  Greg Jones @3.2    7 years ago

Not that it is possible, but, a neutral investigation into both Parties would have been best to begin with. We now have a situation where any further investigation into Russian collusion on either side would be greatly impaired, almost impossible to conduct.

Comey and McCabe, both focal points and neither can be trusted by either side. Are there any witnesses that have been brought forward by Mueller who have not been tainted? How trustworthy can the testimony of past and even current cabinet members be or former government employees be?

Another witch hunt we do not need and that is all it would be.

Republicans colluded and Democrats colluded. We are already in the process of healing that situation. It's called draining the swamp.

Just what needs to be drained? Old school politicians set in their ways holding too much power and influence.

Who is putting up the most resistance to Trump? Old school politicians set in their ways afraid of losing their excessive power and influence. From both Parties. These people are usually referred to as the establishment. Top priority is to retain the power and influence. Next priority is winning elections. Whether or not doing something positive for the general population is even on the list of priorities is highly debatable.

How are we healing? Snapshot!

Republicans just lost a special Congressional election. Did they lose to the Democrats? Technically, yes.

If the reports we have heard are to be believed, the winner was recently a Republican. The loser an idiot that intended to be a rubber stamper for Trump. No elected member of government should be a rubber stamp for a Party or an individual. The people made the right choice between two individuals. Despite a lot of hooting an hollering by the Democrats, the Party label really wasn't important.

Another investigation by the same powers that be in Congress would only serve to muddy the waters and divide the country even more. Exactly what the Establishment, made up of people like Nancy Pelosi and Jeff Flake want.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.2.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Greg Jones @3.2    7 years ago
We should see another special investigation getting started before long

My guess is immediately after the IG Report

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.2.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  owlsview677 @3.2.2    7 years ago
Another investigation by the same powers that be in Congress would only serve to muddy the waters and divide the country even more.

I can only imagine what the selection process for a new special counsel will be like. However, I agree it will be divisive, but we need it badly. The deep state has thus far (for 9 years) done all the investigating. Let Sessions finally launch one - one that looks right over Mueller's shoulder

 
 
 
Explorerdog
Freshman Silent
3.2.5  Explorerdog  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.4    7 years ago

Sessions investigating Sessions?

 
 
 
owlsview677
Freshman Silent
3.2.6  owlsview677  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.4    7 years ago

I agree in that I feel the people do need another investigation. A need to know for sure has developed. We should not be too hasty to start one. There is no way to guarantee a fair and neutral investigation, but there are a few things that need to be accomplished  to obtain abetter one than we have now.

Midterms are only a few months away, nothing should be done until we have new faces in Congress from both Parties as well as some third Party or independent candidates replacing some of our incumbents.

Whether they are in a minority or majority position neither Nancy Pelosi nor Paul Ryan should be at the helm or involved in the leadership of their Parties.  It would also be helpful if Senators such as McConnell, Feinstein, Schumer and Graham could be replaced or at least relegated to the back of the bus.

When convenes in January and new members are seated, the first order of business should be to give Mueller exactly six months to wrap up his investigation and submit his report. The Mueller investigation itself will be one of the factors being investigated by a new Special Counsel. If you think things are sticky now with multiple investigations investigating the same thing, just imagine the difficulties of investigating an ongoing investigation led by a special counsel.

One of my takeaways from the Trump campaign was that all of government, not just high position leaders and politicians would be subject to the draining of the swamp. Something that many like myself have been begging for for years.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
3.2.7  cjcold  replied to  Greg Jones @3.2    7 years ago

So the first 15 GOP fascist investigations of Hillary that found nothing weren't enough?

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
3.2.8  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  owlsview677 @3.2.2    7 years ago
We now have a situation where any further investigation into Russian collusion on either side would be greatly impaired, almost impossible to conduct.

That's been the goal of ( Deleted CoC {SP} ) in Congress all along. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.2.9  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  owlsview677 @3.2.6    7 years ago
When convenes in January and new members are seated, the first order of business should be to give Mueller exactly six months to wrap up his investigation and submit his report. The Mueller investigation itself will be one of the factors being investigated by a new Special Counsel. If you think things are sticky now with multiple investigations investigating the same thing, just imagine the difficulties of investigating an ongoing investigation led by a special counsel.

I totally agree, but let's assume the democrats win a majority in the House. I guarantee the first order of business will be impeachment proceedings, regardless of where the Mueller investigation is. If it ever works as you say, ya things will get sticky, but at least we get an investigation of wrongdoing in the FBI & DOJ, which has been ignored on the one hand while we have a "take no prisoners', full blown investigation of "collusion" on the other.

One of my takeaways from the Trump campaign was that all of government, not just high position leaders and politicians would be subject to the draining of the swamp. Something that many like myself have been begging for for years.

I know you have. The casualties on both sides are piling up


 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
3.3  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Rmando @3    7 years ago
Comey and McCabe's memos are worthless since they are proven liars and leakers.

But, only liars are saying that. 

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
3.3.1  lib50  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @3.3    7 years ago

It's like they think we don't pay attention to who lies EVERY SINGLE DAY. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.3.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @3.3    7 years ago
But, only liars are saying that.

One of the worst thing an FBI agent can do is lie, it disqualifies his testimony. 

FACT:

Comey and McCabe have lied.  Sorry Bobby :)  It couldn't happen to a better guy!

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
4  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו    7 years ago

First and foremost was the statement that McCabe had permission from then director Comey to allow agents to talk to the media. Comey told Grassley in no uncertain terms that he did not!
There is also a major contradiction between when McCabe said he knew about the Weiner e-mails and when Comey testified he knew about them.

This is BULLSHIT until proven otherwise.  Yep, someone is lying and it appears to be the usual tRUMPbot suspects. 

 
 
 
Explorerdog
Freshman Silent
4.1  Explorerdog  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @4    7 years ago

Amazing that everyone is accused of lying and everyone called into question except the guy that is caught in continuous lies even ones that serve no purpose other than inflating his ego, yet he is beyond reproach.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Explorerdog @4.1    7 years ago

Isn't it? crying


Thank you all

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @4    7 years ago

It is FACT

 
 

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