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Turns out Obama was the real Russian stooge

  

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Via:  sixpick  •  6 years ago  •  42 comments

Turns out Obama was the real Russian stooge

The circumstantial evidence is mounting that the Kremlin succeeded in infiltrating the US government at the highest levels.

How else to explain a newly elected president looking the other way after an act of Russian aggression? Agreeing to a farcically one-sided nuclear deal? Mercilessly mocking the idea that Russia represents our foremost geo-political foe?

Accommodating the illicit nuclear ambitions of a Russian ally? Welcoming a Russian foothold in the Middle East? Refusing to provide arms to a sovereign country invaded by Russia? Diminishing our defenses and pursuing a Moscow-friendly policy of hostility to fossil fuels?

All of these items, of course, refer to things said or done by President Barack Obama .

To take them in order: He re-set with Russia shortly after its clash with Georgia in 2008. He concluded the New START agreement with Moscow that reduced our nuclear forces but not theirs. When candidate Mitt Romney warned about Russia in the 2012 campaign, Obama rejected him as a Cold War relic.

The president then went on to forge an agreement with Russia’s ally Iran to allow it to preserve its nuclear program . During the red-line fiasco , he eagerly grasped a lifeline from Russia at the price of accepting its intervention in Syria. He never budged on giving Ukraine “lethal” weapons to defend itself from Russian attack .

Finally, Obama cut US defense spending and cracked down on fossil fuels — a policy that Russia welcomes, since its economy is dependent on high oil prices.

Put all of this together, and it’s impossible to conclude anything other than that Obama was a Russian stooge — and not out of any nefarious dealings, but out of his own naïveté and weakness.

Obama didn’t expect any rewards when he asked then-Russian President Dimitri Medvedev during a hot mic moment at an international meeting to relay to Vladimir Putin his ability to be more “flexible” after the 2012 election; he was, to put it in terms of the current Russian election controversy, “colluding” with the Russians in the belief it was a good strategy. His “kompromat” was his own foolishness.

The cost of Obama’s orientation toward Russia became clearer over the last two weeks. When he pulled up short from enforcing his red line, an agreement with the Russians to remove Bashar al-Assad’s chemical weapons became the fig leaf to cover his retreat.

This deal was obviously deficient, but Obama officials used clever language to give the impression that it had removed all chemical weapons from Syria. Never mind that Assad still used chlorine gas to attack his population — exploiting a grievous loophole — and that evidence piled up that Assad was cheating more broadly.

The Russians eagerly covered for Assad because he’s their client. What was the Obama administration’s excuse? It effectively made itself a liar for the Russians. At the same time Moscow bolstered the Assad regime, we said had to go, smashed the moderate opposition we were trying to create, and sent a destabilizing refugee flow into Europe. This was a moral and strategic disaster.

To be sure, Donald Trump’s statements about Russia over the last year-and-a-half have often been stupid and shameful. But there was always a good chance that Russia’s blatant hostility to our values and interests would make any attempted Trump detente unsustainable. With his secretary of state and UN ambassador hitting Russia hard over the Assad gas attack and Trump’s strike challenging Russia’s position, the administration looks to be adopting a hard-headed attitude without bothering with a doomed re-set first.

Even if Obama eventually got tougher on Russia — imposing sanctions after the Ukraine invasion and sending contingents of US troops to countries near Russia — he never entirely shed his reflex toward accommodation.

No matter what conspiracy theorists might say, there’s nothing to suggest anything untoward about Obama’s relationship with Russia. But based on the record alone, you might have suspicions.

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sixpick
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1  seeder  sixpick    6 years ago

What's funny is how Obama put sanctions on Russia two months after the 2016 election, when he knew about the meddling long before the election.  If Trump had not won, we would never have heard anything about the Russian meddling in the election.  I think we all know all about that.  Heck, Obama knew about the meddling in 2012, but looking at an off mic recording we have to wonder who they were working for that year, since Obama made fun of Romney when he said Russia was our biggest threat.

And when you start to think about Fascist, you need to think, who stabbed Israel in the back and who provided Israel's number one enemy with a future nuclear bomb and lots of money for supporting terrorists around the world and it wasn't Romney or Trump.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1  XXJefferson51  replied to  sixpick @1    6 years ago

Great post.  It’s right on!  It’s always been about Obama and his dealings with Russia as well as Hillary making money off them in exchange for an important commodity.  

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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1.1.1  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1    6 years ago
It’s always been about Obama and his dealings with Russia as well as Hillary making money off them in exchange for an important commodity.

Yes, it's always been bullshit based.  Thank you. 

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
1.1.2  cjcold  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1    6 years ago

Turns out that is just more far right wing propaganda. Putin hates Obama and Hillary but loves his butt buddy Trump.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.3  Texan1211  replied to  cjcold @1.1.2    6 years ago

yeah. Love. must be why Russia expelled US diplomats and closed a consulate.

 
 
 
lennylynx
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2  lennylynx    6 years ago

LOL!  Us libs are sure gonna be shocked when Mueller puts Obama in jail, huh Picky?  

 
 
 
evilone
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3  evilone    6 years ago

Anything to distract from the current circus.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4  Sean Treacy    6 years ago

Good description of a Putin stooge.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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4.1  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    6 years ago

So you would have applauded and supported Obama if he'd busted Trump before the election?  That's "surprising," since we never heard anything like that from your side when it started to be reported and it took your Shitbag (and you a bit afterward) about a year after the election to come up with this load o' shit excuse.  But I applaud him and you by extension for using the classic criminal desperation defense:  "Someone shoulda stopped me!!!"

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @4.1    6 years ago
So you would have applauded and supported Obama if he'd busted Trump before the electio

Sometimes all you can do is laugh.....

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @4.1    6 years ago

Seems like Obama was afraid to do anything before the election. Must have been waiting for the prime time to be more flexible after the election again.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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4.1.4  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  XDm9mm @4.1.3    6 years ago
Hell, he had to be cajoled into going after Bin Laden

That's some really high-grade bullshit there.  Your Bush couldn't get him in 8 years. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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4.1.5  Dulay  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @4.1.4    6 years ago

Bush let him go. 

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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4.1.6  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.1    6 years ago
Sometimes all you can do is laugh.

Especially when one needs to run away from the subject. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5  XXJefferson51    6 years ago

And you should see how much money the Dems and the environment whacko’s her to peddle Russian propaganda to harm our domestic energy production and infrastructure to benefit their own.  All the Russians useful idiots at the Dakota access pipeline sabotage and protests was sad to see.  

 
 
 
cjcold
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5.1  cjcold  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5    6 years ago

So the Russians (that you could see from your back porch) had what to do with what pipeline?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  cjcold @5.1    6 years ago

Still believing Palin actually said that?

How gullible are you?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.1.2  XXJefferson51  replied to  cjcold @5.1    6 years ago

They funded the opposition to it and fed propaganda to the local Native American population and the tree hugger groups.  

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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5.2  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5    6 years ago
And you should see how much money the Dems and the environment whacko’s her to peddle Russian propaganda to harm our domestic energy production and infrastructure to benefit their own.

Why do you think that only your republiscum can raise and spend money?  And that lie about Russia has been smacked down more times than you've whined about something or other (i.e., every post of yours).   Isn't lying a sin in your religion?  So habitual, pathological lying would be a really big sin, right? 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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6  Dismayed Patriot    6 years ago

"Obama didn’t expect any rewards when he asked then-Russian President Dimitri Medvedev during a hot mic moment at an international meeting to relay to Vladimir Putin his ability to be more “flexible” after the 2012 election; he was, to put it in terms of the current Russian election controversy, “colluding” with the Russians in the belief it was a good strategy."

Well there's a mountain of bullshit. Obama was President at that moment and had every right to negotiate on foreign policy. The Russians were holding nothing over him and he understood, rightly, that he didn't have a lot of latitude just prior to an upcoming election. The Russians were begging him for some foreign policy changes and Obama told them to take a hike. And all of this was prior to Russia's illegal invasion of Crimea and the Ukraine, before their attack on our elections, before they weaponized social media, before their blatant assassinations of political opponents, journalists and the take over of private media in Russia. It wasn't until 2014 that Russia extended the state control over mass-media as they were lying about their "little green men" and sending military into a sovereign nation.

Are you Republicans this monumentally stupid as to not understand how things have changed since 2012? Are you completely unaware of what transpired in Russia and the re-ignition of the cold war by Putin in 2014? Are you still so memorized by Putin's bare chested horse back riding photo that you haven't pulled your head out of his ass yet?

 
 
 
bbl-1
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7  bbl-1    6 years ago

Obama bashing by American Quislings continues unabated.

Don't matter.  Trump is still The Kremlin's puppet.  String dancer.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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7.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  bbl-1 @7    6 years ago
Trump is still The Kremlin's puppet

Funny.  There is more evidence of that puppet being Obama and absolutely NONE against the current President.

But don't let that stop your little hissy fit.

 
 
 
bbl-1
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7.1.1  bbl-1  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.1    6 years ago

bs

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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7.1.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  bbl-1 @7.1.1    6 years ago

The provide the proof that President Trump is "The Kremlin's puppet".  I'm sure the Meuller investigation would like to see it as well.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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7.1.3  Texan1211  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.1.2    6 years ago

You'll need to mow your lawn a couple of times before you get a real answer to that.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7.1.4  XXJefferson51  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.1    6 years ago

Right on!  applausepeace

 
 
 
cjcold
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7.1.5  cjcold  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.1    6 years ago

Actually Putin feared both Obama and Clinton. He knew that either would shut him down if he fucked up.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7.1.7  Texan1211  replied to  cjcold @7.1.5    6 years ago

Gee, I bet Putin was positively quivering with fear after Obama told him how flexible he could be!

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
7.1.8  cjcold  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1.4    6 years ago

How old/young does one have to be to start using emogis? My mommy wants to know.

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Quiet
7.1.9  arkpdx  replied to  cjcold @7.1.5    6 years ago

Is that why Obama had to beg for forgiveness and ask permission to postpone complying with a Putin order? 

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
7.1.10  cjcold  replied to  Have Opinion Will Travel @7.1.6    6 years ago

Except for election tampering? Weird how Putin and Trump are such good butt buddies.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
7.1.11  cjcold  replied to  arkpdx @7.1.9    6 years ago

Please explain that piece of propaganda.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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7.1.12  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.7    6 years ago
Gee, I bet Putin was positively quivering with fear after Obama told him how flexible he could be!

I can just see Putin shaking when Barry told him to "stop it" when it come to the hacking during his time in office.

 
 
 
lennylynx
Sophomore Quiet
7.1.13  lennylynx  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @7.1.12    6 years ago

Yet you (deleted) are perfectly ok with Trump totally sucking Putin's dick.

 Skirting {SP}

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
7.1.14  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  lennylynx @7.1.13    6 years ago
Yet you (deleted for context) are perfectly ok with Trump totally sucking Putin's dick

Aren't you supposed to be providing proof of that?  Meuller has been digging for over a year and has come up empty.  I'm sure he would like to see your evidence.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7.1.15  XXJefferson51  replied to  lennylynx @7.1.13    6 years ago

(Comments deleted)

Authors are expected to moderate their own seeds/articles. You are not the author here.

 

{SP}

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
7.1.16  XXJefferson51  replied to  cjcold @7.1.8    6 years ago

When you get mature enough to use them, we’ll let you know. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Quiet
7.1.17  arkpdx  replied to  cjcold @7.1.11    6 years ago

Selective memory eh? You forgot this 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
7.1.18  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  arkpdx @7.1.17    6 years ago
Selective memory eh?

Talk about a selective memory. First, Obama was President and had every right to discuss foreign policy on or off mic. Second, he was absolutely right to shut down the request from the Russians with an upcoming election. Third, this was in 2012 years before the illegal invasion of Crimea, the west was hoping they could get Russia back on a democratic track as Dmitry Medvedev was President at the time. It was before Putin decided to reignite the cold war by invading a sovereign nation, murdering dissidents, journalists and political opponents, taking over all national media by force and then deploying active measures against our election in an effort to get Trump elected. 

The difference between where we were at with Russia in 2012 and where we are now could not be starker, the Russian government is a democracy in name only, it is a fascist authoritarian State now that is determined to destroy western democracy.

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Quiet
7.1.19  arkpdx  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7.1.18    6 years ago

Are able to stand and walk straight after doing that much spin? 

The Russia of 2012 is the same Russia today. The government is the same. Their goals are the same. Romney was right when he said Russia was/is our biggest global foe. It was Obama that Putin had completely fooled. Obama was a wholely owned subsidiary of Putin Inc.  

 
 

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