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The case of James Wolfe: National Security vs the First Amendment

  

Category:  News & Politics

By:  vic-eldred  •  7 years ago  •  56 comments

The case of James Wolfe:  National Security vs the First Amendment

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A former Senate aid has been arrested for lying to the FBI about his contacts with reporters. James Wolfe faces 3 counts of making false statements. The case is slightly complicated since one of the reporters he leaked to was Ali Watkins, who was then a "Buzzfeed" reporter and is now with the New York Times, was his girlfriend. Wolfe has not been charged with leaking classified information for whatever reasons (maybe so they won't be an issue in Court).
Watkins phone records were seized by the DOJ, so the essential question may be "was that the only way to prove that classified information was being disseminated"? 

The media is sure to be outraged, rightfully so, but on the other hand something had to be done about the outrageous number of leaks of classified information involving the Trump Administration. AG Jeff Sessions fulfilled a promise he made to get to the bottom of the leaks. Wolfe would be a major player since he has access to all the classified material given to the US Congress. Hopefully the DOJ thread the needle here.


"In his role with the committee, Mr. Wolfe was responsible for safeguarding classified and other sensitive information shared with lawmakers. He stopped performing committee work in December and retired in May.

Court documents describe Mr. Wolfe’s communications with four reporters — including Ms. Watkins — using encrypted messaging applications. It appeared that the F.B.I. was investigating how Ms. Watkins learned that Russian spies in 2013 had tried to recruit Carter Page, a former Trump foreign policy adviser. She published an  article for BuzzFeed News  on April 3, 2017, about the attempted recruitment of Mr. Page in which he confirmed the contacts."

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/07/us/politics/times-reporter-phone-records-seized.html



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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1  author  Vic Eldred    7 years ago

"The Justice Department will weigh journalists' concerns and modify its guidelines for investigating potential national security leaks, Attorney General Eric Holder told media outlets today."



Were the guidelines followed?

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
2  bbl-1    7 years ago

"Something had to be done about the outrageous number of leaks of classified information involving The Trump Administration."  A partial sentence from the 'article.'

If 'the leak' involves national security that is one thing.  If 'the leak' involves deceit, malfeasance, cover up or corruption, that is quite another thing.

On the whole I suspect Sessions is doing what he can to protect a criminal White House.  Which in itself also makes Sessions a complicit criminal.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  bbl-1 @2    7 years ago

"The indictment indicates  James A. Wolfe  leaked information to reporters on Trump campaign figure Carter Page."



His girlfriend, working at Buzzfeed published the Carter Page info. I believe she was first to do so. It was picked up by multiple news organizations and it became a narrative of a Trump official having Russian contacts. I would say that not only involved classified information, but it helped perpetuate a false narrative. I think that leak by itself was extremely serious.

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
2.1.1  bbl-1  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    7 years ago

Carter Page?  That Carter Page?  The strange guy with the strange hat that visits Russia a lot?  Yeah, right.  Don't look there. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  bbl-1 @2.1.1    7 years ago

Thanks for making the point. That became the battle cry of the left. Now we know who was a key leaker.

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
2.1.3  bbl-1  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.2    7 years ago

From leaks come truth.  I know where you stand. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  bbl-1 @2.1.3    7 years ago
I know where you stand.

You do? Read the title of the Article.

At least Sessions didn't charge any of the reporters as "criminal conspirators" as Eric Holder did. Where were you back then?

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
2.1.5  bbl-1  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.4    7 years ago

You stand with Putin's Russia, right?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  bbl-1 @2.1.5    7 years ago

Putin's Russia?  

Why don't you tell us how you see it?   

Is leaking classified info a treasonable offense?  Or is this simply a matter of a free press providing facts to the American public?

How do you feel about President Obama's use of the Espionage Act?  The surveillance of James Rosen?

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
2.1.7  bbl-1  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.6    7 years ago

Would that not depend upon the information?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  bbl-1 @2.1.7    7 years ago
Would that not depend upon the information?

Yup.....Info like this maybe:

"Roughly one month before the Buzzfeed article appeared, the  Senate  intelligence committee received a classified document detailing Mr. Page’s activities. That day,  Mr. Wolfe  — who received, maintained and managed the document — exchanged 82 text messages with Reporter #2 as well as a 28-minute phone call later that evening, according to the indictment."

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Guide
2.1.10  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.8    7 years ago
"Roughly one month before the Buzzfeed article appeared, intelligence committee received a classified document detailing Mr. Page’s activities."

So here is what I find interesting.

Per the indictment, the Buzzfeed article appeared "on or about April, 3, 2017". So that means that the Senate IC was informed, via a classified document, about Carter Page's activities LONG BEFORE they started bitching about the FISA warrant that the GOP insists was base on the Steele dossier. Could the FISA application instead have been equally justified by the classified document supplied to the SSCI in March of 2017?

Oh and presuming that at some point the SSCI shared this information with the HSCI, could that information be hidden under the blackout in the Democratic response to the GOP House memo? 

One has to wonder WHY, if Page was on the up and up, any information on the activities of Page would be classified in the first place. Also, if in fact Page's activities were rightly classified WTF was he doing? 

It seems to me that Trump's minions want it both ways. Either Page is an innocent caught up in a unwarranted 'deep state' conspiracy, OR his activities constituted a national security risk and the FISA warrant was justified. They can't have both. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.1.12  Greg Jones  replied to  bbl-1 @2.1.5    7 years ago
You stand with Putin's Russia, right?

Evasion and deflection

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Guide
2.1.13  Dulay  replied to  NORMAN-D @2.1.11    7 years ago
Considering Page has never been indicted, much less charged with ANYTHING, and is free to roam about the world...unfettered by Der Muellers brown shirts....I'm going with door #1.

That's interesting because a couple of weeks ago Hillary Clinton spoke at Yale and I didn't see any shackles on her wrists. So by your standards Hillary Clinton is innocent. You've really come around...

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Quiet
2.1.14  arkpdx  replied to  Dulay @2.1.13    7 years ago
So by your standards Hillary Clinton is innocent.

She's as innocent as you think Trump is. 

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Guide
2.1.15  Dulay  replied to  arkpdx @2.1.14    7 years ago
She's as innocent as you think Trump is.

The topic isn't Trump, it's Page.

Do you have anything to say about Carter Page? 

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Quiet
2.1.16  arkpdx  replied to  Dulay @2.1.15    7 years ago

The topic isn't Hillary either yet you brought her up. 

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Guide
2.1.17  Dulay  replied to  arkpdx @2.1.16    7 years ago
The topic isn't Hillary either yet you brought her up.

Go look up the word context. 

BTFW, I see that you had nothing to add about Page. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Quiet
2.1.18  arkpdx  replied to  Dulay @2.1.17    7 years ago

And my comment is no more or less contextual  than yours. Hillary's guilt or "innocence" has nor relationship to the topic at had..

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Guide
2.1.19  Dulay  replied to  arkpdx @2.1.18    7 years ago
And my comment is no more or less contextual than yours. Hillary's guilt or "innocence" has nor relationship to the topic at had..

Agree to disagree...

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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3  Galen Marvin Ross    7 years ago

Aren't you suppose to supply a link to the story? I don't see one.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @3    7 years ago

It's my article. Are you denying that it's a story?   Check Post #2.1.  It is a major news story.

 
 
 
Spikegary
Junior Quiet
4  Spikegary    7 years ago

Not if he wrote it and put it together, homeybear.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Spikegary @4    7 years ago

Thanks

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
Sophomore Participates
5  Galen Marvin Ross    7 years ago
James Wolfe faces 3 counts of making false statements.

So, the same counts that Flynn pled guilty to. So, what are ya going to do when the case is finished and, Wolfe walks out of the courthouse a free man? It is possible, if it is shown that what he "leaked" wasn't classified, secret or, top secret and, had nothing to do with the Senates investigation except to expose corruption in the way the investigation is being run or, the House investigation was run.

 
 
 
Spikegary
Junior Quiet
5.1  Spikegary  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @5    7 years ago

And yet, the DOJ felt they had enough to issue the indictment.  Here's a thought, they might know more than you about the evidence they have.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Spikegary @5.1    7 years ago

I would hope so, this seems like a slam dunk and I believe they finally have the right people in place. The Sally Yates & Preet Bharara types are finally gone. The question now is the seizure of phone records

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Guide
5.1.2  Dulay  replied to  Spikegary @5.1    7 years ago
And yet, the DOJ felt they had enough to issue the indictment.

And yet the indictment isn't for leaking classified information. If the had 'enough to issue' an indictment for leaking, they would have. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @5    7 years ago
It is possible, if it is shown that what he "leaked" wasn't classified, secret or, top secret and, had nothing to do with the Senates investigation except to expose corruption in the way the investigation is being run or, the House investigation was run.

That's the funny part of it. He is only being charged with lying to the FBI. So, right back at ya: What are you gonna do if/when he is found guilty (it's 5 years for each count) and he only gets sentenced to a fraction of the 15 years ?

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
Sophomore Participates
5.2.1  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.2    7 years ago
That's the funny part of it. He is only being charged with lying to the FBI. So, right back at ya: What are you gonna do if/when he is found guilty (it's 5 years for each count) and he only gets sentenced to a fraction of the 15 years ?

That's just it, I think that Flynn will probably get probation or, at the most three years total for the same crime and, I'm ok with that, if/when Wolfe is convicted and, he only gets a lite sentence, I'll accept that too, after all, the judge has a reason for the way he/she sentences people, who am I to question that.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Guide
5.2.3  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.2    7 years ago
What are you gonna do if/when he is found guilty (it's 5 years for each count) and he only gets sentenced to a fraction of the 15 years ?

Chalk it up to our fucked up justice system.

Hey if Petraeus, who did FAR WORSE for pussy, could get a slap on the wrist, NO TIME and still collect his pension, why not this guy. 

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Guide
5.2.5  Dulay  replied to    7 years ago
He didn't do far worse that is total BS.

Petraeus took CODE WORD LEVEL TOP SECRET documents that included the names of confidential military informants and gave some to his main squeeze and hid the rest in his home. THEN he LIED about it to the FBI.

So please DO explain WHY you think that lying about TALKING about 'classified' information about Page, who Trump called a 'volunteer', is WORSE than divulging CODE WORD TOP SECRET documents. and lying about it. I'll wait... 

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Guide
6  Dulay    7 years ago
Watkins phone records were seized by the DOJ, so the essential question may be "was that the only way to prove that classified information was being disseminated"?

The only information that we have at this point is in the indictment and it says nothing about form which device the evidence was garnered. 

Until somebody has the gonads to stand up to the DOJ in cases like this, the question is moot because they've gotten away with it for so long. 

 
 

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