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Thailand cave: The successful search for lost boys

  

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Via:  arkansashermit-too  •  6 years ago  •  70 comments

Thailand cave: The successful search for lost boys

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On 23 June, 12 boys and their coach went to explore a cave after football practice in northern Thailand. Nine days later, all 13 have been found alive.

A huge rescue operation involving the Thai Navy and Air Force finally managed to find the group deep within the cave system.

Thai soldiers and police gather in the mountains near the Tham Luang cave

Shortly after the group's bikes were found abandoned at the entrance last month, heavy rain sent torrents of water through the cave.

Rescuers hoped that the boys aged 11 to 16 and their coach were alive deep inside the Tham Luang Nang Non cave. They hoped the group could find safety on a mound in an underground chamber, after being trapped by flood waters.

Thai officials work to reduce the water level in a cave complex at the Tham Luang cave

A photo of one of the missing boys, Prachak Sutham, is shown on the phone of a Thai student, below.

A Thai student shows a picture of missing classmate Prachak Sutham

Thai Navy divers, along with four British cave divers and some US military personnel, worked hard to try to reach the deepest caverns of the Tham Luang Nang Non cave, the fourth longest in Thailand.

Scuba tanks are delivered to the rescue operation site for the Thai navy Thai officials carry oxygen tanks through a cave complex at the Tham Luang cave

British cave-diver Robert Charles Harper is seen exploring an opening in the mountain during the rescue operation, below.

British cave-diver Robert Charles Harper explores an opening in the mountain during the rescue operation

Industrial water pumps were used to reduce the water level inside the cave, but struggled against relentless rain.

Rescue workers carry heavy water pumping equipment into Tham Luang Nang Non cave Water is pumped out of Tham Luang Nang Non cave into a lake on the foot of Doi Nang Non mountain range

The entrance to the cave became flooded, with efforts shifted to finding other ways to access and reduce water in the cave, involving drilling through rock to drain water.

Thai soldiers run down the road leading to the Tham Luang cave Soldiers and rescue workers work in Tham Luang cave complex

Drones equipped with thermal cameras were used to detect possible access points and an underwater robot sent back information on the water depth and condition of the cave.

Sniffer dogs were also used after smelling clothing belonging to the missing children.

Helicopter from Thai air force carry a mini excavator to the mountain top where they are trying to make a hole to get into Tham Luang Nang Non cave A Thai Airforce worker drops in by helicopter into a clearing in the forest near a possible overground opening to the Tham Luang cave

On Monday, shortly before they were found, rescuers said they believed they were less than 1km (0.6 miles) from where the boys may be, but were blocked by a narrow tunnel.

Thai air force officers make preparations for the helicopter at a helipad near Tham Luang cave Soldiers and rescue workers work in Tham Luang cave complex

The group's plight gripped the country and led to an outpouring of support and hope, along with press attention.

The press waits for an official announcement at Khun Nam Nang Non Forest Park on 30 June

Hundreds of volunteers joined the military and police in the search operation.

Prayers and rituals took place for the missing group, including by a monk at an altar near the Tham Luang cave, below left.

A hermit was photographed performing a ritual beside the road leading to Tham Luang cave (below right).

A monk lights a candle at an alter near the Tham Luang cave and a hermit performs a ritual

On Saturday, an ethnic Akha shaman was seen at Khun Nam Nang Non Forest Park performing religious rituals to help the search, below.

An ethnic Akha shaman perform religious rituals in order to help finding the missing children and their coach at Khun Nam Nang Non Forest Park

On Monday, ethnic Lisu tribespeople held a ritual involving a sacrificial chicken to appease the spirits of Tham Luang cave.

Ethnic Lisu tribespeople hold a ritual in Khun Nam Nang Non Forest Park An Ethnic Lisu tribeswoman holds a sacrificial chicken during a ritual in Khun Nam Nang Non Forest Park

Thai medical experts had said the group's survival depended on whether they can find fresh drinking water and they could survive for eight days without food.

Thai soldiers stand at the mouth of Tham Luang cave

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Old Hermit
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1  seeder  Old Hermit    6 years ago

Great News!

I've been loosely following this story since it broke 9 days ago and, truth be told, I didn't think it was going to end well.  So very glad I was wrong.

Personally I'm going to give the credit to The Hermit, though the chicken might of helped as well.

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A hermit was photographed performing a ritual beside the road leading to Tham Luang cave

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They've been trapped down there since June 23rd, does that make it 9 or 10 days without food?

Thai medical experts had said the group's survival depended on whether they can find fresh drinking water and they could survive for eight days without food.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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1.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Old Hermit @1    6 years ago

They have been located and it is reported that they are suffering from dehydration and malnutrition.  It will take several hours for each person to be brought out according to the report.  Hopefully from now on people will check the weather reports and not go into underground caves when rain is expected.

 
 
 
Old Hermit
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1.1.1  seeder  Old Hermit  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @1.1    6 years ago
They have been located and it is reported that they are suffering from dehydration and malnutrition.  It will take several hours for each person to be brought out according to the report.

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Unfortunately I've been seeing reports that the poor guys might be trapped underground for months before their recuse can be safely completed.

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Paula Bartholomew
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1.1.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Old Hermit @1.1.1    6 years ago

My morning news reported that 3 more have been brought out.

 
 
 
Skrekk
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1.1.3  Skrekk  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @1.1.2    6 years ago

4 today, so that's 8 total.    Sounds like they need to restage bottles now, and it's not clear if they'll try to do the remaining 5 in one push tomorrow or two.

 
 
 
GaJenn78
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1.1.4  GaJenn78  replied to  Skrekk @1.1.3    6 years ago

I would think that they get the remainder of the boys out tomorrow. I also heard they took the strongest ones first mainly for morale. 

 
 
 
Skrekk
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1.1.5  Skrekk  replied to  GaJenn78 @1.1.4    6 years ago
I also heard they took the strongest ones first mainly for morale.

I read that too and was a bit surprised since normally you'd do the reverse, but it could be that some of the kids need more time to build up strength or more time for dive training.   They're not going to really teach them how to dive but how to stay calm in zero visibility underwater, what to do if you lose your dive mask or water starts to leak in, what to do if you lose your connection to the dive line, what to do if your tank or other gear get stuck or hung up, etc.

I'm a caver & cave diver and have been involved in a number of rescues in "dry" caves so I know there's not much point to speculating or double guessing the rescue coordinator.    Usually the facts on the ground aren't very closely connected to what gets reported in the short term anyway, so we just read about it later on a cave diving newsgroup or when the annual NSS accident report gets published.    On one particular cave accident in Iowa (Skunk cave) there were 3 different reports written up, one by the rescue coordinator, one by the experienced caver who ultimately freed the kid who was stuck, and one by the mother of the kid who was never even on the scene......and all 3 reports were wildly different.    And during the 12 hour rescue itself the TV news reports were all laughably wrong.

 
 
 
GaJenn78
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1.1.6  GaJenn78  replied to  Skrekk @1.1.5    6 years ago

reading about their rescue has given me so much anxiety!!!! I don't think I could do it! What strong and fearless little men!!!! I can not wait to see someone interviewed!!!

 
 
 
GaJenn78
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1.1.7  GaJenn78  replied to  Skrekk @1.1.5    6 years ago

reading about their rescue has given me so much anxiety!!!! I don't think I could do it! What strong and fearless little men!!!! I can not wait to see someone interviewed!!!

 
 
 
GaJenn78
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1.1.8  GaJenn78  replied to  Skrekk @1.1.5    6 years ago

This is really a miraculous story! A couple divers just happened to surface and find them!!!!! I'm not too sure how much the kids actually had to be underwater during their rescue. I really hope a news source can get an interview so we can know more details!

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Old Hermit @1    6 years ago

Kudos and two thumbs up to the divers and every one else  involved in the rescue of all these kids and their coach. Good team effort and job well done!

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Old Hermit
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2  seeder  Old Hermit    6 years ago

Got to give the fine folks in Thailand full credit for coming together and never giving up.

Texas and our baby Jessica story got nothing on these proud people.

 
 
 
Freefaller
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2.1  Freefaller  replied to  Old Hermit @2    6 years ago

Just read a different story on this, good ending to a bad circumstance.

 
 
 
Kavika
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3  Kavika     6 years ago

Like you AH I didn't think that this was going to end well...Thank goodness we were both wrong. 

Great job by all involved in the rescue...

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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4  Bob Nelson    6 years ago

I've followed the headlines for a week, wondering when the horrible news would come.

It's wonderful to hear the boys are saved. Great respect for the Thais' "never give up" attitude.

    thumbs up

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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5  Hal A. Lujah    6 years ago

Great news.  Although, not so great for chickens.  I'm sure many will connect the successful mission with the ritual slaughter of a chicken now.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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5.1  Bob Nelson  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @5    6 years ago
I'm sure many will connect the successful mission with the ritual slaughter of a chicken now.

Hey!

If it works.....

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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5.1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Bob Nelson @5.1    6 years ago

LOL.  No kidding. 

 
 
 
GaJenn78
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6  GaJenn78    6 years ago

Y'all! I saw on Fox this morning that at least 4 of the boys have been rescued but there are reports of 6 being rescued. I believe they are stopping for the night and will resume in about 10-12 hours. Fantastic news!!!!

 
 
 
Jasper2529
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6.1  Jasper2529  replied to  GaJenn78 @6    6 years ago

This is true, Jenn. It's a shame that the naysayers on NT gave up on the rescue mission days ago...

 
 
 
Freefaller
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6.2  Freefaller  replied to  GaJenn78 @6    6 years ago

Yes I saw 4 as well, hopefully the remaining 7 soon

 
 
 
Skrekk
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6.2.1  Skrekk  replied to  Freefaller @6.2    6 years ago

There are 9 remaining including the coach.

 
 
 
Freefaller
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6.2.2  Freefaller  replied to  Skrekk @6.2.1    6 years ago

My bad you are correct, lol I can only say I hadn't had my morning coffee yet

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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6.2.3  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Skrekk @6.2.1    6 years ago

That coach is going to be in deep doo doo when they get him out.  There were signs prohibiting entry into that cave.  The news said it was part of an initiation of some sort to enter the cave.

 
 
 
GaJenn78
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6.2.4  GaJenn78  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @6.2.3    6 years ago

I'm not sure what to think about that. From what I'm hearing, they entered the cave (for what ever reason) but they kept going deeper into it because of the flooding and rain. I also heard that the parents aren't mad at him. That could be wrong too.

 
 
 
shona1
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6.2.5  shona1  replied to  GaJenn78 @6.2.4    6 years ago

Evening..what you are hearing is correct as that is what they are reporting here as well. The parents are not blaming the coach and have thanked him for keeping the boys safe and calm until they were found. He also gave them his share of the food. Yes questions will be asked and comments made, at the end of the day they are safe. But that is not to forget the SEAL who has lost his life in rescuing them....One of the many heroes in this and after seeing pictures of what they are dealing with, it is in the true sense...The word hero is banded around to lightly these days...But in his case he certainly was one.....

 
 
 
Skrekk
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6.2.6  Skrekk  replied to  shona1 @6.2.5    6 years ago

I suspect the coach will hold himself responsible for the death of the cave diver.    I'll be interested to learn what actually happened there but usually it takes a year or so before my group gets a full writeup on the incident.

 
 
 
GaJenn78
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6.2.7  GaJenn78  replied to  shona1 @6.2.5    6 years ago

Evening, Shona! I also hear we have some Aussie divers as well!!!!! Thank you!

 
 
 
GaJenn78
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6.2.8  GaJenn78  replied to  Skrekk @6.2.6    6 years ago

Lack of oxygen from what I heard

 
 
 
Skrekk
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6.2.9  Skrekk  replied to  GaJenn78 @6.2.8    6 years ago
Lack of oxygen from what I heard

His tank ran out of air but the question is why given that he wasn't stuck in a tight passage.   Cave divers have a strict rule of 1/3rd in, 2/3rds out for your air supply, and the water current makes the way out much quicker.    So either he had some unknown medical event (unlikely since he kept the regulator in his mouth and depleted his air), he lost the dive line and got confused (unlikely if he was a trained cave diver rather than just a SEAL), or he was pushing his air supply to the limit in order to stage as many bottles as possible or as far as possible.     I'll wait to read the accident reports but this sounds like one where the cause won't be known.

 
 
 
GaJenn78
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6.2.10  GaJenn78  replied to  Skrekk @6.2.9    6 years ago

I will wait on reports as well, very crappy indeed. I think they were trying to do a dry run (if that makes sense) before all the children. 

 
 
 
Skrekk
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6.2.11  Skrekk  replied to  GaJenn78 @6.2.10    6 years ago

The reports say that he was staging tanks along the route.    That's why it's especially strange since he had other air sources upstream of where he was found.

 
 
 
GaJenn78
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6.2.12  GaJenn78  replied to  Skrekk @6.2.11    6 years ago

Maybe he stayed too long under water or got to a place that didn't have as much oxygen, with out a tank... IDK..... its crazy. I'm so thankful for him and everyone else!!!! 

 
 
 
Kavika
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7  Kavika     6 years ago

I'm watching reports on TV right now. Four boys have been taken to the hospital. As GaJenn stated that they have stopped the operation for the night and will start in the AM. 

Great news.

They aren't stopping because it's night since it's always dark in the caverns. It's to replace the oxygen supplies along the route. This is a long, dangerous mission. It's how the Thai Seal was lost.

 
 
 
GaJenn78
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7.1  GaJenn78  replied to  Kavika @7    6 years ago

This is definitely going a lot more smooth than I thought it would. I have also heard they had been finding other routes and drilling as well.  I am so extremely happy about this!!!!

 
 
 
MrFrost
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8  MrFrost    6 years ago

I wasn't optimistic about the rescue, I am happy to admit I was wrong. 4 down, 7 to go. 

Great seed AH, thanks for this. 

 
 
 
Skrekk
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8.1  Skrekk  replied to  MrFrost @8    6 years ago

One thing this is teaching me is that I've been doing expedition caving all wrong......when we get out we need to go to a hospital which has cute nurses!

 
 
 
Silent_Hysteria
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8.2  Silent_Hysteria  replied to  MrFrost @8    6 years ago

Agreed.  I didn't think they would rescue a one.  Glad I was wrong. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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9  Kavika     6 years ago

Or you can skip the caving altogether and just to straight to the hospital..Happy .

 
 
 
GaJenn78
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9.1  GaJenn78  replied to  Kavika @9    6 years ago

No kerplunking for me..... LOL!laughing dude

 
 
 
GaJenn78
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10  GaJenn78    6 years ago

Y'all!!! 8 of them are out! I am over the moon happy about this!!!! Clapping

 
 
 
Kavika
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10.1  Kavika   replied to  GaJenn78 @10    6 years ago

Yes, it seems that they got 4 more out....Great news

 
 
 
shona1
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10.2  shona1  replied to  GaJenn78 @10    6 years ago

Evening GaJenn..Yes brilliant news..fingers crossed for the remaining 5..It is a race against time at the moment as the weather is deteriorating and rain has been falling....Hopefully it holds off enough until the others are finally removed tomorrow....A fantastic effort by all involved from the Thais, USA, China, Brits, European countries and us...Amazing what can be achieved when everyone works together...

 
 
 
GaJenn78
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10.2.1  GaJenn78  replied to  shona1 @10.2    6 years ago

Hi Shona! It seems that they have a solid plan in place! I was devastated when I heard it may be months before they could be rescued. When I turned on the news yesterday morning, I was overjoyed to see that 2 were rescued! Now 8 of them!!!! I know that coach feels horrible, according to reports, he's only 25

 
 
 
GaJenn78
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10.2.2  GaJenn78  replied to  shona1 @10.2    6 years ago

It really does warm my heart!

 
 
 
GaJenn78
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11  GaJenn78    6 years ago

Y'all!!!! This site has been down, and it's been driving me crazy!!!! Everyone is out!!!!! They still had a doctor and 3 Navy Seals down there but I suspect they will get out just fine..... at least I'm praying they do, we already lost one. This has go to be one of the best heroic operations I have ever seen!!!! Marcus Lutrell was on Fox and Friends this morning and had a great interview about this. If you don't like Fox thats fine, but the interview was great

 
 
 
Skrekk
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11.1  Skrekk  replied to  GaJenn78 @11    6 years ago

Now the divers have to go back in and pull all the rescue gear out.....

 
 
 
GaJenn78
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11.1.1  GaJenn78  replied to  Skrekk @11.1    6 years ago

Blah, leave that shit...... get the hell out is what I'm screaming!

 
 
 
Skrekk
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11.1.2  Skrekk  replied to  GaJenn78 @11.1.1    6 years ago

I won't be too surprised if they wait a few days for the divers and support team to rest but all the staged air tanks and other neutrally buoyant gear is much easier to extract by floating it through water rather than carrying it out when the water is lower in November.    The bigger gear like the pumps and hoses will be removed right away while the army is there.

 
 
 
Enoch
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12  Enoch    6 years ago

Dear Friend Arkansas Hermit and All Other News Talkers Who Contributed to This Discussion: I am delighted that all the boys, their coach, the Doctor, and almost all the Thai Navy Seals are back.

I hope they are all healthy and suffer no long term (PTSD) afflictions.

May those close to the heroic from Thai Navy Seal who gave his life diving as a civilian volunteer in this rescue be comforted by the memory of his courage and selfless sense of duty.

May his sacrifice be a blessing and an inspiration to all about the globe.

May he rest in peace.

Enoch.    

 
 
 
GaJenn78
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12.1  GaJenn78  replied to  Enoch @12    6 years ago

The doc and 3 seals are also out????? OMGsh!!!! Amazing!!! I am so happy to hear this!

 
 
 
GaJenn78
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12.2  GaJenn78  replied to  Enoch @12    6 years ago

I heard two of the boys are showing signs of pneumonia  but the others are seeming well. 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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12.3  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Enoch @12    6 years ago

Many of the boys are suffering from ailments  due to where and how long they were there.  With good mental counseling hopefully they will not suffer long term psychological damage.  I hope they and their families are left alone by the press until a later time when they all better equipped to handle what is sure to be the biggest media blitz since Baby Jessica.

 
 
 
GaJenn78
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12.3.1  GaJenn78  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @12.3    6 years ago

I hear you! I was wondering what kinds of PTSD the boys might have, but I think they will be ok. Will prolly never do expedition again of any sort, but a few might end up being SEALS. What a remarkable bunch they are!!!!

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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12.3.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  GaJenn78 @12.3.1    6 years ago

More than one may be permanently claustrophobic after this.

 
 
 
Skrekk
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12.3.3  Skrekk  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @12.3.2    6 years ago
More than one may be permanently claustrophobic after this.

I very much doubt that based on my own experience caving with kids.    If anything they learned a number of valuable technical and psychological skills especially from the little bit of cave diving training they received.

 
 
 
GaJenn78
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12.3.4  GaJenn78  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @12.3.2    6 years ago

No doubt!!!! I know I would be, especially after hearing about what the rescue entailed! What a brave bunch of boys! I don't think I could have done it! I am so stinkin proud of them!!!!

 
 
 
Skrekk
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12.3.5  Skrekk  replied to  GaJenn78 @12.3.4    6 years ago

The divers are proud of the kids too - here's one of them talking about it:

On a side note all the problem cavers I've ever had were adults, or at least 16 or older.    Younger kids are extremely resilient and generally take directions pretty well.     Of course it's still an individual thing - I wouldn't take any adult or any kid into a cave or put them in a dicey situation if I expected they might be a problem.

For example all of my daughters are excellent cavers but there's only one of them I've taken on nasty wet survey trips, and she started doing that particular kind of caving when she was 11 after she had over 3 years experience and I was confident in her abilities and her reaction to adverse conditions.    But I never would have let her go cave diving at that age (and you can't get certified until 18 anyway).

 
 
 
Skrekk
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12.3.6  Skrekk  replied to  Skrekk @12.3.5    6 years ago

More about the various cave divers:

 
 
 
GaJenn78
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12.3.7  GaJenn78  replied to  Skrekk @12.3.5    6 years ago

Wow! very impressive!!! These boys have shown extreme ability! They had a will to survive!!!!

 
 
 
GaJenn78
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12.3.8  GaJenn78  replied to  Skrekk @12.3.6    6 years ago

I was wondering, thank you!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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12.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  Enoch @12    6 years ago

Amen

 
 
 
Kavika
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13  Kavika     6 years ago

Has anyone heard if the doctor and 3 Thai seals are out as well. They stayed with the boys since July 2nd. 

 
 
 
Skrekk
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13.1  Skrekk  replied to  Kavika @13    6 years ago

Yep, they're all out.

 
 
 
Kavika
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13.1.1  Kavika   replied to  Skrekk @13.1    6 years ago

Outstanding, thanks for the information.

 
 
 
Ender
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14  Ender    6 years ago

Great news. I am happy and sad at the same time.

Many, many well wishes for those that never give up. Very happy for the children and coach. Sad for the loved ones of the man that gave his life.

I remember seeing an episode of the old tv show China Beach. The two women were trapped in a cave and the only way out was swimming underwater through a small crevice. I thought at the time, I don't know if I would have been able to do that.

Very brave young people.

 
 
 
shona1
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15  shona1    6 years ago

Morning....A truly wonderful outcome carried out by many people from around the world...As we say here "Bloody ripper"...Yet tinged with sadness, for the one lost soul....

 
 
 
GaJenn78
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16  GaJenn78    6 years ago

I heard on the news this morning that the boys and their coach have left the hospital and were going to do a presser, not sure if we will see it though. They had a snippet of an interview with an Aussie diver who helped with the rescue and said that they boys were sedated during the rescue to prevent them from panicking. I was wondering how they did it! I can't wait to hear more about this.

 
 
 
shona1
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17  shona1    6 years ago

Evening GaJenn..Yes they are all on the TV now live from Thailand..all look well and thanking the rescuers etc....They are answering questions etc and showing a picture of the SEAL who lost his life trying to help them...and thanking his wife and family and honouring him....They are saying they will never forget him...

 
 
 
GaJenn78
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17.1  GaJenn78  replied to  shona1 @17    6 years ago

Morning, Shona! Thanks for the update. I was trying to see if it was being shown anywhere here but I couldn't find it. If you have anymore news, please share! :-)

 
 

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