How soon some are willing to forget !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I do not disagree with what you have presented.

Complacency is only a part of the problem.

willing to disrupt us....or.....want us shut down... and we constantly infight....now more than ever.

A serious conqueror realizes the value of turning his target's greatest strength into a weakness. This Nation's greatest asset has always been it's diversity. Transform that diversity into divisiveness and we become weak, unable to stand unified and vulnerable to the will of our enemies.

"We constantly infight .... now more than ever." Providing our real enemies a pathway to conquer us from within.

"We constantly infight .... now more than ever." Providing our real enemies a pathway to conquer us from within.

"We are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence — on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day"
John F. Kennedy 

I will not forget.  I was sleeping in my apartment and a friend from the UK called and woke me up to tell me about it.  At the time, I lived under a major air traffic route and Flight 93 probably flew over my area on its way to crash about a 2 hour drive southwest of that apartment.  My brother and sister were classmates of someone who was killed at the Pentagon and I knew him as well.

Kennedy, one of if not the most popular and revered Democrat to hold the Presidency.

He knew what he was talking about. It was under his watch that the handbook for the "Communist Manifesto" was entered into the Library of Congress.

Soon after his death it became a point of ridicule for the Democratic Party. Hushed up and swept under the rug.

According to today's politicians, especially leftists posing as Democrats, he was nothing more than just another conspiracy nut.

It is a day none of us will forget even if like me. I don't know for sure if I personally knew any of the victims or not.It still created a sense of mental anguish.

It was also a wake up call to the many who weren't in the habit of paying much attention to national and international politics. I believe that there is a direct correlation between the growth of the Independent movement and the events of 9-1-1.

According to today's politicians, especially leftists posing as Democrats, he was nothing more than just another conspiracy nut.

Eating their own, as they have been doing 2009 to present. I don't think there are any Democrats left.

Dang if that doesn't sound like a shot at Obama. Not exactly inaccurate either.

Bill Clinton in my book was a Democrat. Not the best to ever hold the office but far from the worst either. His wife however was never one in my opinion. Do you remember her healthcare plan? Nor was she ever a Republican in more than just name. Nor does she qualify as a Socialist.To me she was never anything more than the spindly four-eyed nerd I met at a protest whose only ambition in life was to be the first female President regardless of how she achieved it.

Obama indeed gave it a big boost but the actual destruction of the Democratic Party as it once was started during the 1968 Democratic Convention in Chicago. These things don't happen overnight, all Obama really did was take things over the top and revealed the true colors of today's Democratic Party.

Bill Clinton in my book was a Democrat.

I agree.

" all Obama really did was take things over the top and revealed the true colors of today's Democratic Party."

You defined my reason for my "2009 to present" response very well.

How soon some are willing to forget !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What minority or ethnic group should we be bombing or harassing so you can claim that we didn't forget?

What minority or ethnic group should we be bombing or harassing

Is that what you got from my statements ?

Yea, I did.

There are folks outside these borders that are out to get us....or.....willing to disrupt us....or.....want us shut down... and we constantly infight....now more than ever...over everything else, and everyone else, but U.S. Citizens !

I will never forget

me neither....never. 

I can remember the entire day.  

So do I.  

Folks in this country....are more worried about bringing "Illegals" into the fold, more than helping those that are already "Legally" in the fold.

Folks in this country....are more worried about bringing "Illegals" into the fold, more than helping those that are already "Legally" in the fold.

Do you feel better about harassing innocent people when you wrap yourself in the flag and quote from the Bible? 

Leviticus 19:33-34 New International Version (NIV)

³³ “‘When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. ³⁴ The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born.^{A)" data-cr="#cen-NIV-3316A">} Love them as yourself,^{B)" data-cr="#cen-NIV-3316B">} for you were foreigners^{C)" data-cr="#cen-NIV-3316C">} in Egypt.^{D)" data-cr="#cen-NIV-3316D">} I am the Lord your God.

When a foreigner resides among you in your land

Did you miss that part ?

The "Illegals" caught at the border don't "RESIDE" amongst us.

The "Illegals" caught at the border don't "RESIDE" amongst us.

If the people didn't reside among us they would not be undocumented immigrants. They would still be in another country. Logically, ICE can't pick up someone in another country and claim that they are in the US illegally. 

Should I explain this in a Venn diagram?

Miss this part too ?

We....the people….have become too complacent, and worry WAY TO MUCH about everyone outside this country.

There are three types of illegals: Those trying to get into our borders and stopped at the border.  Those that got into our borders without being stopped at the border.  And, those that overstayed their visas.  How would your Venn diagram show those three types, since in reality a Venn diagram only shows where certain things overlap.  What It Is ME is trying to explain to you is that there are those that get to our borders and either get caught or get through without getting caught.  So-called undocumented immigrants are for the most part those that got through our borders without getting caught.

We....the people….have become too complacent, and worry WAY TO MUCH about everyone outside this country.

The supposed 9/11 hijackers weren't illegal immigrants.   They had valid visas. 

When are united States Citizens.....ALL.....going to wake up to that fact, and decide what is actually more important.

Not political, just an observation. The US is a free and democratic nation, any expectation of all toeing the same line is unrealistic, it has never happened in US history and will never happen.  It's one of the things that made the US the great nation it is

The US is a free and democratic nation,

"We the people"...."OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA"......

Weird....

It seems to have changed to "We the People"....."of other WORLD nations" !

While there are some that will wholly agree with your statement there are some who will wholly disagree and there will be a whole bunch somewhere in the middle.  Like I said all thinking the same is not realistic given the US is a nation of free people.

Like I said all thinking the same is not realistic given the US is a nation of free people.

That word "Free" doesn't mean what it used to any more.

To me it hasn't changed, but we are all different people with different views

"I'm sure everyone knows, other countries are more than "Capable"....right ? What happened to the "Liberal" sect. that complained about OUR country Policing the entire world when Bush was President. Was that a "Flitter Moment" too ?

Trump wants to get out of that "Policing the world" business and make others responsible, and now the "Liberal Sect." wants too expand it this time ?"

This is a completely false assertion. "Liberals" are not wanting America to continue to "nation build" as was the intent of the unnecessary Iraq and Afghanistan invasions. Liberals never wanted America to give up our position as global leader and defender of western democracy. They never asked us to back out of promises and responsibilities to our NATO allies. Liberals never asked to cede power to Russia or China as Trump has been doing. Liberals never asked our President to ridicule our global allies while praising authoritarians and western democracies greatest enemies.

We should never forget the events of September 11, 2001 but we should also never forget the events that took place during the 2016 Presidential election where an enemy foreign government attacked our election process, but those who ended up benefitting from that illegal act have chosen to ignore, forget or even praise such attacks on our nation. Those persons should be ashamed and recognize that siding with the attackers in the 2016 election makes them no better than those who sided with the attackers on 9/11. They are traitors to this nation and enemies to western democracy.

but we should also never forget the events that took place during the 2016 Presidential election where an enemy foreign government attacked our election process,

The Russians ran a propaganda campaign. They didn't physically change one damn vote, no matter how hard the left cries. If the Russians wanted to really disrupt our elections he should have done what Obama did in Israel. Lest you forget.

thehill

"There was money moving that included taxpayer U.S. dollars, through non-profit organizations. And there were various liberal groups in the United States that were raising millions to fund a campaign called V15 against Prime Minister Netanyahu," McLaughlin said.

He noted an effort to oust Netanyahu was guided by former Obama political operative Jeremy Bird and that V15, or Victory 15, ads hurt Netanyahu in the polls. McLaughlin said the Israeli leader rebounded after delivering a speech to Congress early this month, prompting more critical ads.

V15 was viewed as part of a broader campaign to oust Netanyahu. The group was linked to Washington-based nonprofit OneVoice Movement, which reportedly received $350,000 in State Department grants. Money to OneVoice stopped flowing in November, officials said, before the Israeli elections.

McLaughlin also cited an effort "to organize the [Israeli] Arabs into one party and teach them about voter turnout."

"The State Department people in the end of January, early February, expedited visas for [Israeli] Arab leaders to come to the United States to learn how to vote," McLaughlin said.

"There were people in the United States that were organizing them to vote in one party so they would help the left-of-center candidate, Herzog, that the Obama administration favored," he added.

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but those who ended up benefitting from that illegal act have chosen to ignore, forget or even praise such attacks on our nation. Those persons should be ashamed and recognize that siding with the attackers in the 2016 election makes them no better than those who sided with the attackers on 9/11. They are traitors to this nation and enemies to western democracy.

Putin is laughing his ass off right now. Sanctions are still in place, and more enacted by Trump's administration, against Russia. Trump has upped the US presence in Syria, including ground forces. The US is still part of NATO (Trump just expects them to pull their own weight).  Putin might be thankful Hillary- who never met a military engagement she didn't like- isn't in charge; but by no means has Trump been "soft" on Russia. The left is doing his job for him, and the US is more divided now than ever before.

If another 9/11 happened it could spark a US civil war; instead of bringing us together.

They didn't physically change one damn vote, no matter how hard the left cries.

False.  Russian bots penetrated the voting systems of multiple (at least 20) states getting direct access to voter data. Removing someone from the voter rolls is definitely changing that person's vote.  It's not a question of whether this happened but how much of it did.  Only a relatively tiny number of denied votes in three states alone would have made the difference in this election.  But this doesn't even take into consideration the massive false flag and propaganda efforts made on Facebook and Twitter just to name a couple of hard-hit platforms that were particularly targeting states the made the difference:  WI, MI and PA.  But go ahead and keep shilling for the Russians and their tool, Scumbag Trump while we contemplate the treason it betrays.  

If another 9/11 happened it could spark a US civil war; instead of bringing us together.

Indeed it could because the most likely perpetrator would be Putin and we have nearly half a nation in love with the murderous dictator and his white nationalist fascism. The South and all its bitter confederate descendants who have been biding their time would just love to attack our nation again. It's why they scream so loud when you try to take their assault rifles away, that's what they imagine they'll fight the government with. They are protectionist, xenophobic, homophobic, misogynist bigots who love Putin and Russia and don't give a crap about America or our ideals of freedom, justice and equality for all regardless of race, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, faith or lack thereof. They want to destroy America which is why they elected an arsonist into the oval office.

Thankfully, I believe these white nationalist fascists and wannabe confederates would find themselves in the same position they did 150 years ago, dead, dying or defeated walking home with their tails between their legs.

False.  Russian bots penetrated the voting systems of multiple (at least 20) states getting direct access to voter data. Removing someone from the voter rolls is definitely changing that person's vote.  It's not a question of whether this happened but how much of it did.

Prove it. Let me save you the trouble- it is a direct lie by the left; which the government already refuted. No one was removed from the voter registration system.

nbcnews

In an exclusive interview with NBC News, Jeanette Manfra , the head of cybersecurity at the Department of Homeland Security, said she couldn't talk about classified information publicly, but in 2016, "We saw a targeting of 21 states and an exceptionally small number of them were actually successfully penetrated."

Ok first part of the claim blown to bits. 21 states targeted and only an exceptionally small number of them were actually successfully penetrated.  So no direct access in 20 states to voter data.

There is no evidence that any of the registration rolls were altered in any fashion, according to U.S. officials.

This isn't from any Trump officials- this is from Obama administration in 2016.  Of course they had their own agenda after Hillary lost.  If Hillary had won the whole Russian hacking would have been ghosted.  Couldn't have anyone questioning the legitimacy of the election.  Especially with Trump casting doubt on the results if he lost ahead of time.

NBC News reached out to the 21 states that were targeted. Five states, including Texas and California, said they were never attacked.

Manfra said she stands by the list, but also called it a "snapshot in time with the visibility that the department had at that time."

Following initial publication of this article, the National Association of Secretaries of State, which represents top electoral officials around the country, said it was “still only aware of one state voter registration system that was penetrated" during the 2016 election "and that office made a public statement at the time."

In 2016, the Illinois Board of Elections acknowledged that voter data had been breached. Hackers were inside the system for several weeks and were downloading data when they were caught, though they did not alter any files.

Wow so of the 21 states that were targeted; but only Illinois admits the Russians gained access; but again no information was changed. Or do you think NBC is too right wing to be trusted?

OK, how about the New York Times?

nytimes

The Obama administration said on Friday that despite Russian attempts to undermine the presidential election, it has concluded that the results “accurately reflect the will of the American people.”

The statement came as liberal opponents of Donald J. Trump, some citing fears of vote hacking, are seeking recounts in three states — Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania — where his margin of victory was extremely thin.

A drive by Jill Stein, the Green Party candidate, for recounts in those states had brought in more than $5 million by midday on Friday, her campaign said, and had increased its goal to $7 million. She filed for a recount in Wisconsin on Friday, about an hour before the deadline.

In its statement, the administration said, “The Kremlin probably expected that publicity surrounding the disclosures that followed the Russian government-directed compromises of emails from U.S. persons and institutions, including from U.S. political organizations, would raise questions about the integrity of the election process that could have undermined the legitimacy of the president-elect.”

That was a reference to the breach of the Democratic National Committee’s email system, and the leak of emails from figures like John D. Podesta, Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman.

“Nevertheless, we stand behind our election results, which accurately reflect the will of the American people,” it added.

Ok, how about you produce all of the disenfranchised voters that couldn't get their ballots cast?  With the Russian hacking out they would be cuing up to be heard.  So where the hell are they?  Of course the Russians would have had to guess which districts the races would be tight enough that dropping a few hundred voters (and they would all have to be ones voting for Hillary) would matter.  It shouldn't be hard to come up with the 100's of rejected voters in tight districts it would take.  Hint: The media already would have found them and exploited them if they existed.

Glad Trump derangement syndrome strong. It is making Putin's job of keeping this country divided and at each others throats much easier.

Indeed it could because the most likely perpetrator would be Putin and we have nearly half a nation in love with the murderous dictator and his white nationalist fascism. The South and all its bitter confederate descendants who have been biding their time would just love to attack our nation again. It's why they scream so loud when you try to take their assault rifles away, that's what they imagine they'll fight the government with. They are protectionist, xenophobic, homophobic, misogynist bigots who love Putin and Russia and don't give a crap about America or our ideals of freedom, justice and equality for all regardless of race, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, faith or lack thereof. They want to destroy America which is why they elected an arsonist into the oval office.

Don't know what to say if you truly believe that.  You had better prep for civil war then; because there will not be a country left. Do you really think if there is another civil war Russia, China, and our supposed allies will simply sit on the side lines? They will pick sides and watch gleefully as the US tears itself apart.

But with your rant against what you believe is 1/2 of the population Putin has already won. Congrats for making it so easy for him. 

what you believe is 1/2 of the population

I misspoke, just half of Republicans are in love with Putin. So that would be about a quarter of the country, not half.

"Nearly half of people who support Donald Trump consider Russia an ally or friend to the U.S., according to a new poll."

newsweek

Those persons should be ashamed and recognize that siding with the attackers in the 2016 election makes them no better than those who sided with the attackers on 9/11. They are traitors to this nation and enemies to western democracy.

Bingo.

Donald Trump is psychologically unstable and unbalanced. Everything that is happening has to be evaluated in that context. 

There is no evidence at all that a majority of Americans have the fear of "foreigners" seen in this "article". 

Anti-immigration themes are presented by those who wish to keep America a "white" country. 

There is no evidence at all that a majority of Americans have the fear of "foreigners" seen in this "article".

Juan Williams got booted from NPR for voicing his opinion on "Muslims" on an airplane he was on.

Yes....more people than you are told are worried about "Illegal Infiltrators" into this country.

if everything was so copacetic, as Liberals want others to believe....Trump wouldn't be President.

I was at work when I heard about the planes hitting the twin towers.  I remember standing at my office window on the 16th floor of my building when we learned that government buildings were being targeted.  shortly afterwards I saw a plane fly towards the pentagon.  Then I saw smoke billowing.  We were told to evacuate our gov't building.  

I remember being very calm, my actions were very methodical.  While I was driving home I heard another plane was on it's way towards Camp David close to where my sons went to school.  That is when I felt my panic rise.  The time seemed to be in slow motion as I was trying to get to them.  Rushing into the elementary school, it was chaos.  They didn't understand what was happening.

The country no longer has that sense of unity under the current Russian attack.  I find it very disturbing that so many don't care and would rather put our intelligence communities on trial and call them liars then to hold accountable those who are really responsible.  

One thing that saddens me, is that my sons never got to grow up in a pre 9/11 United States .. my youngest son has never known an America that was not at war, or was not hunting Osama bin Laden..

9/11 changed things in ways that I am not sure have been felt as of yet … I will never forget the moment I turn on the TV .. then the phone rang, my mom was in tears, asking me if I had the TV on … it was 6:52 am - the first plane had hit the north tower 6 minutes earlier ...

My (not so) lil man will be heading to NYC on the 18th … never knowing what NYC or the world was like pre 9/11 - never knowing / perhaps never being able understand the innocence that was lost that day as a nation...

Peace....