SCOOP : Tape Of Trump And Cohen Discussing Payment To Playboy Model To Cover Up Affair
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SCOOP: FBI has secret recording Michael Cohen made of conversation he had with Trump two months before the election in which they discussed payments to Playboy model Karen McDougal.
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Payment to keep sex bunny from speaking out on affair during presidential campaign = violation of campaign laws.
Okay.
That's a fine.
No doubt, maybe he can shoot Karen McDougal in the middle of 5th Avenue and all your excuses can come true.
Talking about a potential payment that was never actually paid to keep sex bunny from speaking out on affair during presidential campaign = .....
but isn't that only if the payment comes out of campaign funds? If he pays it out of his own pocket is it still? I don't know, but even if it is a campaign law violation I'm fairly sure it's only a fine.
I'll admit I hate that he seems to need to always be right and always wants to paint himself in the best light and does a rotten job at keeping his life straight. so much simpler to just not have an affair.. but I guess that's too difficult for some people to get.
No, it's based on the purpose. They timing shows that is was discussed in order to prevent it from coming out during the campaign.
Yes, too bad Trump didn't have the media, and the left in the tank for him like Bill Clinton did. Then any women that came forward about affairs or sexual allegations during the campaign would have shamed, harassed, and ignored into obscurity.
I know, I know, times are different now; and Bill Clinton is no longer president.
The only difference is the R & D behind their names. Bill's continue sexual exploits are a running joke with the media now. They ignore it during Hillary's campaign as well.
<sigh> More whataboutism's.
Did the payment actually happen, John? You, nor anyone else knows. I'm sure you have already came to your own unbiased conclusions, though s/
You used the word..'unbiased'. Pardon me, but I think your slip is showing.
Notice the s/ after the comment? That means something.
I stand corrected. Tag got by me.
If Karen M, gets her non disclosure agreement over turned as she is trying to do, then we will know for sure.
At the very least it might shed light on the work McDougal's attorney was illegally doing on Trump's behalf as well as the involvement of David Pecker and American Media Inc.
does that s/ stand for slip ?
Is this just the tip of the iceberg? Does he have the rump on tape about Stormy Daniels?
Supposedly Cohen secretly recorded everyone. Time will tell.
That is what I heard. That he had a lot of recordings.
This is good news for Trump and his legions of Trumpers. At least 'sex and money' aren't un-American activity.
We should look at precedence to figure out what to do.
Anyone know what happened to past politicians that paid off women?
You mean like John Edwards? Only the Dems seem to care about campaign finance violations. The GOP base would vote for Trump no matter what he did....even treason and murder wouldn't be a bridge too far.
Both sides will vote for people with the right letter in front of their name as long as they are working towards things they want.
Can you name any Dems who credibly claimed that they could shoot someone in the middle of 5th Ave and not lose any voters, or name any Dems who credibly colluded with hostile foreign powers to rig and corrupt US elections?
At the very least you'd think that treason would be a disqualifying factor, but apparently it isn't for the GOP.
No, but I can name one who caused the death of a woman he was driving home. His supporters kept him right in the US Senate, in spite of it, where he did the progressive work of damaging this nation.
Donny Deutch says Cohen will go into the history books as the man who brought down Donald Trump. Oh, he is also a good friend of Cohen who has spoke to him recently.
It was also in the news this afternoon that Michael Avenatti has talked to Cohen and would be willing to represent him IF Cohen flips on Trump.
This political soap opera is just beginning.
In the McDougal case we don't really know yet because AMI made that payment. In the Daniels case he's fucked. Those supposed payments to Cohen who says he was NOT reimbursed by Trump but the Trump org. says they did pay him through his retainer makes it a corporate matter and that is a criminal violation.
Trumps payoffs through the Trump foundation which he tried to dissolve but got stopped by the feds is going to come bite him in the ass.
Isn't it funny that we heard weekly from the right about how Obama's marriage is failing and they would divorce after he served his term....but yet we have proof that he was fucking women right after Melania had her kid and everything is just fine in Trumpsylvania. She's going to kick him in his tiny balls when the time is right. We know that sham of a marriage is heading for a tabloid filled sales flurry....he's fucked.
That tell all book from Melania would be worth so much more than any prenup she might have signed.
She may be waiting for Baron to be older before she kicks that fool to the curb.
Never happen. She will get bound like the other wives to stay quiet. This is going to be a really quiet and quick divorce, the last thing Trump wants or needs is to have to admit his crap in court and plead the 5th like he did with Marla.
She should find out how much a book could pull in. As Trump would most likely offer her a settlement for signing a ND agreement, she should ask for at least 5 million more than the estimated revenue for a book. She should demand cash and not a check though.
Well I hope she does not wait until the poor child is mentally and emotionally disturbed by the fact that his Father is such lunatic and shows it to the entire world on a daily bases. An embarrassment that he will have to live with for the rest of his life no matter where he goes in the world, unless he changes his name.
Unless Baron has no computer, no newspapers, no TV, or no radio, how can he not know what a low life his father is.
Having an affair isn't a crime. It's always the cover up that get's them in the end.
I read an interesting piece in the New Yorker about what might bring him down. It doesn't seem to be the affairs with playboy bunnies and porn stars and the payouts. They didn't discuss that so much. It's the kompromat, and the many, many people who have comprising information on him and not knowing who will finally speak out against him at any time. I'll post it Monday when I have access to a computer
Demanding payment to keep quiet = extortion. Ironically, if true, Trump had to pay the tart to open her mouth and then had to pay her to keep it shut. In any event, if paying a tart is a violation of campaign laws (which I doubt), then Trump should pay the same fine that the DNC and the media did when they colluded to help Hillary win . . . which was zero.
Who demanded payment from Trump? Neither.
They were both selling their stories to someone else when Trump and Cohen got involved.
Trump will just say that it was John Miller on the recording because he and trump sound....well, identical.
If what Cohen taped is released, would that not be a breach of lawyer-client confidentiality? That would lead to disbarment at least where I practised law.
From what I read they couldn't take his law license but it would be a major ethics violation.
Though they were talking just about him taping them, not being confiscated.
Nope, because Cohen isn't the one releasing the recording. And again no because as most attorneys do, including mine, they record the conversation with that disclosure, usually stated on paper, that they do.
That keeps a client, especially a lying one like Trump, from saying "I never said that" "Fake news"
Notice Trump is bitching because he can't use those excuses as an out?
In 37 years of practice, I never recorded a client, but then I never had a reason to.
Getting that asshat out of the oval office may be more important to him than his law license.
Being as he is in the position he's now in, if he is found guilty of the charges he is now facing, it would mean disbarment for him anyway. So as long as he is going to have to face that probability anyhow, he might as well use whatever he has to his advantage legal wise.