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NBC Ignores Own Reporter and Crew Assaulted By Antifa in Charlottesville

  

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Via:  96ws6  •  6 years ago  •  68 comments

NBC Ignores Own Reporter and Crew Assaulted By Antifa in Charlottesville

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On the one-year anniversary of the deadly Charlottesville protests, white supremacists and radical leftists known as Antifa descended on the Virginia town once more to commit more violence. Late Saturday night, NBC News reporter Cal Perry and his crew were in the thick of it as Antifa members ganged up on them and attacked. The next morning, NBC’s   Sunday Today   ignored the attack and suggested the media was simply “heckled” by their assaulters.

On Twitter, Perry was documenting the protesters as they marched through the streets of college town when they started to get “ very aggressive with the media ” and trying to block their camera shots. “Yeah. We’re getting a lot of this. Protesters trying to grab our camera,”   he responded   to one Twitter commenter telling him to “f**k off national media vulture.”

Things got super-heated when one Antifa protestor shouted “F**k you, snitch a** news b**ch. F**k you” and tried to either pull the camera away from the person using it or knock it to the ground. It was unclear in the video.

Despite the video evidence on the ground from their own reporter, NBC went to Garrett Haake, who was at the White House in anticipation of violence there as another white supremacist rally was set to be held. “Overnight, tense moments in the streets of Charlottesville, Virginia,   far left protesters heckling the media   and chanting anti-police slogans,” he suggested at the top of his report. They actually used footage Perry and his crew shot but didn't show anything from their attack.

The assault on NBC’s reporter came almost a year since their political director, Chuck Todd used his MSNBC program,   MTP Daily   to   elevate Antifa’s violence   as a legitimate tactic against the right.   He even doubled down   and allowed them to use the formerly prestigious   Meet the Press   as a platform to push their hate and violent methods. Todd has never condemned them.

Todd appeared on   Sunday Today   and had nothing to say about the attack or Antifa, which had been declared a   domestic terrorism group   by the State of New Jersey before he had them on last year. Instead of condemning Antifa, he lambasted the President for criticizing anthem protesters and targeted his supporters as racists.

So I don't think, if the President is, quote, ‘learned anything’ I think in his mind, he has seen this is an effective political strategy to keep his base, his base, ” he declared about what the President had learned since last year’s violence. “ That it is the president's continuation of using to be generous, dog whistles, others say they're not silent. You can hear the whistles pretty loudly.

It’s sad and disturbing that NBC would choose to ignore violent leftists assaulting their own employees in exchange for railing against President Trump’s voters, but this appears to be the world we live in now. The assault also came after the entire liberal media had been trying to convince the public that Trump supporters where violent ones reporters had to watch out for.

NBC's  Sunday Today
August 12, 2018
8:02 a.m. Eastern 

WILLIE GEIST: Let's begin this morning with the one-year anniversary of the deadly white supremacist protest in Charlottesville and the death of Heather Haier. Demonstrations in Charlottesville during the day on Saturday were peaceful but got out offhand last night as leftist Antifa protestors lashed out at the media and police. Today a large rally is planned in Washington, D.C., with a big police presence to meet them. NBC’s Garrett Haake is there for us. Garrett good morning.

GARRETT HAAKE: Hey, good morning Willie. D.C. Police will be flooding this area later today trying to keep separate groups of white nationalists and counter-protesters, even as they converge on this small park later tonight.

[Cuts to video]

Overnight, tense moments in the streets of Charlottesville, Virginia, far left protesters heckling the media and chanting anti-police slogans. As the city rolled out a heavy police presence on the eve of its darkest day.

(…)

HAAKE: On a working vacation in New Jersey, President Trump will watch the rally on television, not from a White House window. On Saturday, Mr. Trump tweeting to preemptively “condemn all racism in violence”. A stark contrast to his response to last year’s chaos in Charlottesville.

(…)

8:04:34 a.m. Eastern 

GEIST: Chuck Todd is NBC's political director and moderator of   Meet the Press . Chuck Good morning.

CHUCK TODD: Good Morning.

GEIST: Another extraordinary day in the presidency of Donald Trump right across the street from where he works. He’s not there today but will be this demonstration from white nationalists and probably counter-protesters as well. It comes one year after Charlottesville when the President said, of course, there were very fine people on both sides, seeming to put equivalency between the left and the racist right. Where are we a year later? I know you’re going to tackle some of this on the show. What has the President learned 12 months on?

TODD: Look, I think we are in a pretty divided place today. I think we are probably more racially polarized today than we were a year ago. And as for the President, since Charlottesville, think about the biggest fight he's picked since Charlottesville. The anthem protesters with the NFL and African-American players kneeling there.

So I don't think, if the President is, quote, "learned anything" I think in his mind, he has seen this is an effective political strategy to keep his base, his base. But I could tell you pretty much every other Republican who has to be on a ballot in 2018 believes that this is at the core of the Republican party suburban voter problem, right? That it is the president's continuation of using to be generous, dog whistles, others say they're not silent. You can hear the whistles pretty loudly. But that is sort of why the Republican Party is in this bind in 2018, where you have a slice of the party, the suburban voters, who are just uncomfortable with the Trump brand of Republicanism.

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96WS6
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1  seeder  96WS6    6 years ago

Nothing to see here..../s

 
 
 
sixpick
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1.1  sixpick  replied to  96WS6 @1    6 years ago

I just heard on the radio about a woman who was fired for saying she hates Mexicans.  Do you hate Mexicans 96?  I don't and I bet you don't either.  Well, NBC was the one who reported this during a break and they had to add a lot of people are hearing this since Trump was elected.  A little subtle piece of propaganda here and another one there, they add up. 

This is the media we have today.  I don't know anyone who hates Mexicans.  In fact, I don't blame Mexicans or any other group of people who try to get into this "never was great" country.  I wouldn't want to live in some of these countries run by Socialists and Drug Cartels either.  The Mexicans I see remind me of life in the 50's and early 60's before the insane started taking over the universities.  These Mexicans are very family oriented, unlike some people today here in this country.  It's actually somewhat refreshing to see people who love their family and work hard everyday.  Sure, they receive benefits for their USA born children and other benefits and are fed the propaganda by those who want to use them as pawns to fundamentally transform this country into a Socialist Utopia to think those of us who want to end illegal immigration as the enemy.

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Guide
1.1.1  epistte  replied to  sixpick @1.1    6 years ago
I just heard on the radio about a woman who was fired for saying she hates Mexicans.  Do you hate Mexicans 96?  I don't and I bet you don't either.  Well, NBC was the one who reported this during a break and they had to add a lot of people are hearing this since Trump was elected.  A little subtle piece of propaganda here and another one there, they add up. 

Unless she works in the public sector or for a union her boss has the right to fire her for that statement, especially if she lives in a right-to-work state. Her speech is an expression of the company that she works for and he has the right to terminate her if she portrays his business in a poor light.  

 
 
 
sixpick
Professor Quiet
1.1.2  sixpick  replied to  epistte @1.1.1    6 years ago

Sorry, maybe I didn't get my point across.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
2  Jasper2529    6 years ago
Late Saturday night, NBC News reporter Cal Perry and his crew were in the thick of it as Antifa members ganged up on them and attacked. The next morning, NBC’s Sunday Today ignored the attack and suggested the media was simply “heckled” by their assaulters.

Once again, NBC stretched/ignored the truth and gave its own version of "facts" so it would fit its left-wing agenda. What a surprise!  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
3  Sean Treacy    6 years ago

Pay no attention to the mob attacking police and the media...

4 white supremacists marched! 

 
 
 
96WS6
Junior Quiet
3.1  seeder  96WS6  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    6 years ago

IKR?  and someone seeded an article about it, because there were so many to choose from!LOL

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
4  charger 383    6 years ago

does not fit what NBC wants to push

 
 
 
Spikegary
Junior Quiet
6  Spikegary    6 years ago

I really don't care who marches.  The can get a permit to march, then go march.  If I'm interested in what you have to say, I'll pay attention to you, if not, I'll ignore you, just like I did everytime the idiot KKK types were able to get a permit to march.  Ther were irrelevant and still are today. 

The fact that the media pretends the attacks happening from people aligned with the left aren't happening doesn't mean they aren't.  It just means they are dishonest journalists.  Where are the police in all this? 

 
 
 
96WS6
Junior Quiet
6.1  seeder  96WS6  replied to  Spikegary @6    6 years ago

I feel the same way.  IMO ANTIFA are giving them exactly what they want which is attention.  Keep in mind they pulled the permits for a LEGAL demonstration.  If it is a quiet march with no violence....no attention.  If there IS violence and ANTIFA is not present then they can paint the other groups as the violent scum they, themselves, have proven they are.   A win win that some people are just plain too stupid to take advantage of.  Instead they promote the fascism they claim to detest.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
8  Dulay    6 years ago

So Perry did a LIVE feed on his NBC twitter account while it happened [as evidenced by the link in the seed] then was on LIVE from Charlottesville noonish on Sunday on MSNBC and talked about Antifa attacking the media and they showed part of the clip again. 

I find it ironic that the seeded article claims that NBC ignored the event, while linking to NBC's COVERAGE of the event.

Y'all know that NBC has more programing than just 'Sunday Today' at 8:00 AM right? 

 
 
 
Rmando
Sophomore Silent
9  Rmando    6 years ago

This is how you know that Trumps "War on the Media" is complete bs. It's all a left wing straw man argument that just gives them another empty talking point. Somebody tells Acosta "CNN sucks" and that's supposed to be a threat.

 
 
 
96WS6
Junior Quiet
9.1  seeder  96WS6  replied to  Rmando @9    6 years ago

CNN did a fine job of killing themselves by fabricating "news".  With any luck they won't recover.

 
 
 
sixpick
Professor Quiet
9.1.1  sixpick  replied to  96WS6 @9.1    6 years ago

I think Sharktown beat CNN out this past weekend.  If we weren't forced to watch it in the airports and remember they spread their propaganda around the world, no one would be watching them.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
10  Dismayed Patriot    6 years ago

"The assault on NBC’s reporter"

Assault: verb - make a physical attack on.

"they started to get “ very aggressive with the media ” and trying to block their camera shots. “Yeah. We’re getting a lot of this. Protesters trying to grab our camera,”   he responded   to one Twitter commenter telling him to “f**k off national media vulture.” Things got super-heated when one Antifa protestor shouted “F**k you, snitch a** news b**ch. F**k you”."

I read and re-read the above article and no where does it actual say any NBC reporter was physically assaulted or that anyone was harmed. As I've said many times here and elsewhere, I do not condone any violence used by either side of the political divide so I am not defending antifa if they do throw any punches, but that does not seem to be the case here. This is just another false equivalence coming from the right as they desperately try to deflect from the Nazi's and white supremacists amongst Trumps base.

So the facts are that "Newsbusters" who made the claim of "assault" ARE LYING, not that their conservative reader base cares, they're just looking to have their ears tickled like little sycophantic Trumplodytes.

 
 
 
96WS6
Junior Quiet
10.1  seeder  96WS6  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @10    6 years ago

He also hit/shoved them as you could see in the video, (and grabbed the camera?)but regardless, it is hilarious how some folks on the left now think verbally assaulting people is OK and  they don't care about hurting others' feelings with free speech. (except ANTIFA?) Who saw that coming?/s

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
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10.2  Colour Me Free  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @10    6 years ago

Assault:


a : a violent physical or verbal attack
- Merriam-Webster dictionary 
 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
10.2.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Colour Me Free @10.2    6 years ago

Assault:

2 law

a : a threat or attempt to inflict offensive physical contact or bodily harm on a person (as by lifting a fist in a threatening manner) that puts the person in immediate danger of or in apprehension (see apprehension 1) of such harm or contact .
- Merriam Webster
I don't see how blocking cameras and shouting profanities can be considered the legal definition of "assault", but you choose to view this with Trump colored glasses so of course you're going to see the enemy when you look at "antifa" who have never actually killed anyone while seeing right wing white supremacists and Nazis who have murdered many in the name of their vile ideology along with other Trump supporters as patriotic Americans. I could list them as I have in other seeds but most ( deleted - labeling ) will just dismiss and deflect as they always do.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
Senior Quiet
10.2.2  Colour Me Free  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @10.2.1    6 years ago
but you choose to view this with Trump colored glasses so of course you're going to see the enemy when you look at "antifa" who have never actually killed anyone while seeing right wing white supremacists and Nazis who have murdered many in the name of their vile ideology along with other Trump supporters as patriotic Americans.

Wow!  can you back this statement up or is this some off the cuff claim about me, so therefore it does not have to be truthful. 

I will tell you what my mom always told my dad "your ignorance is showing"

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
Senior Quiet
10.2.3  Colour Me Free  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @10.2.1    6 years ago

All I did was provide a definition of assault that includes a verbal attack as being an assault .. and this is the response you come up with ..

Good luck with yourself and have a nice day

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
10.2.4  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Colour Me Free @10.2.3    6 years ago
All I did was provide a definition of assault that includes a verbal attack as being an assault ..

But you failed to include the rest of the definition which was relevant since this was specifically discussing the legal definition of "assault" which isn't simply cussing or yelling at someone. If we went by the first definition virtually everyone would be in jail since we've all yelled at someone at one time or another. Could you imagine if all it took to call the cops on your spouse was recording them yelling at you?

We have far more credible claims of actual physical assault that have been made against the President than any from "antifa" this last weekend.

 
 
 
96WS6
Junior Quiet
10.2.5  seeder  96WS6  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @10.2.1    6 years ago

Why do you think the camera was knocked around so much?

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
Senior Quiet
10.2.6  Colour Me Free  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @10.2.4    6 years ago
Could you imagine if all it took to call the cops on your spouse was recording them yelling at you?

Yes I could/can, apparently you have not had someone screaming at you, that was so close to your face you could feel his eyelashes .. that dear fellow poster is assault … I did feel as though it was …..

a : a threat or attempt to inflict offensive physical contact or bodily harm on a person (as by lifting a fist in a threatening manner) that puts the person in immediate danger of or in apprehension (see apprehension 1) of such harm or contact. Definition of apprehension
1
: suspicion or fear especially of future evil : foreboding an atmosphere of nervous apprehension

and the charge did hold up in court... I should have picked this 'legal definition' apart yesterday .. but I had/have an issue with your false claims in 10.2.1..

but you choose to view this with Trump colored glasses so of course you're going to see the enemy when you look at "antifa" who have never actually killed anyone while seeing right wing white supremacists and Nazis who have murdered many in the name of their vile ideology along with other Trump supporters as patriotic Americans.

What I see as the enemy is the post-truth society so many seem to feel is acceptable these days - some individual feel as though they can lie about others, attack another's character in order to what, make themselves feel better, even 'superior' perhaps (one might call that Trump'esque) .. does being sanctimonious on an anonymous discussion board make one feel better?

Wake up / Get your own house in order first / look in the mirror, is advice I keep reading .. perhaps it is good advice...… so I will share it with you.... as I once respected your opinions, now doubt I will be reading them in the future...

Peace out!

 
 
 
96WS6
Junior Quiet
10.2.7  seeder  96WS6  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @10.2.1    6 years ago

So now more info has come out and they were "punched" and the thugs tried to grab the camera...ASSAULT...happy? 

 
 
 
96WS6
Junior Quiet
10.2.8  seeder  96WS6  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @10.2.1    6 years ago

You are only showing your true colors by making excuses for violence.  More info came out and they "punched/hit" them as well..... As if we all already didn't know by looking at the footage.

Wonderful job on unwittingly proving the articles point by the way.

 
 
 
zuksam
Junior Silent
10.2.9  zuksam  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @10.2.4    6 years ago

Assault and battery is the combination of two violent crimes: assault (the threat of violence) and battery (crime) (physical violence). This legal distinction exists in jurisdictions that distinguish assault as threatened violence rather than actual violence. Many jurisdictions distinguish yelling in a threatening way as an assault even if the words aren't a direct threat. Most Police will arrest a person and charge them with domestic assault if they are called for a loud domestic fight and hear them yelling, swearing, or insulting in what they call a "Threatening Way". If I were surrounded by a Mob (Antifa or Nazi) that was yelling at me I'd feel threatened and given the history of these Mobs the threat is very real.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
10.3  Sparty On  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @10    6 years ago

Yeah because everyone calls reporters "snitch-assed news bitchs" and tells them to fuck off numerous times while swatting at her cameraman right?

Disgusting behavior let alone towards a woman.   There is no other way to put it.   Disgusting!

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
10.3.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sparty On @10.3    6 years ago
because everyone calls reporters "snitch-assed news bitchs" and tells them to fuck off numerous times while swatting at her cameraman right?

So I guess we'll be arresting every celebrity who's ever tried to swat a camera or used profanity at their paparazzi? No? Was anyone injured or even felt seriously threatened? None of them claimed any fear of bodily harm, so why does the right wing want to find something against "antifa" so badly? Could it be that they simply hate anyone who opposes fascism?

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
10.3.3  Sparty On  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @10.3.1    6 years ago

Your words not mine.

I said it is disgusting behavior which it is and which you are still defending.

From what i can see most of them are just stupid, snot nosed kids who couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag by themselves.

Yeah antifa ....  they are that which they say they abhor.   Little egg throwing fascists

 
 
 
Rmando
Sophomore Silent
10.3.7  Rmando  replied to  Release The Kraken @10.3.6    6 years ago

Does the barista make him buy a cup of coffee first before he can go in the bathroom?

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
10.3.9  Dismayed Patriot  replied to    6 years ago

So none of you can refute my post so you've resorted to childish attacks. I'd say I was surprised, but I prefer truth over fiction. 

As I said above, "I do not condone any violence used by either side of the political divide so I am not defending antifa if they do throw any punches, but that does not seem to be the case here.".

I've never been a part of antifa, supported antifa, been to a rally where they were present and have never defended their actual violence and vandalism when they commit such crimes. In fact, I don't even know of anyone who is.

Try as you might, you can't turn a knocked camera and some profanity and claim it's "alt-left violence" no matter how much you wish you could.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Professor Quiet
10.3.10  Jack_TX  replied to  Release The Kraken @10.3.6    6 years ago
hides him in the Starbucks bathroom

Don't you mean "the people's bathroom"?  

Property is theft, after all.

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Guide
10.3.11  epistte  replied to  Jack_TX @10.3.10    6 years ago
Don't you mean "the people's bathroom"?   Property is theft, after all.

When did you become a communist?

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Guide
10.3.13  epistte  replied to    6 years ago
Antifa are the fascist you have been duped by the left my guess is your whole life.

Did someone steal the comma and the period key from your keyboard? 

How is it possible that the Antifa are fascist, if you know what the definition of fascism is? 

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Guide
10.3.16  epistte  replied to    6 years ago
Antifa tries to stop free speech when ever they can. They believe in a one party state that want to control industry.I would say that is close enough. 

They are not anti-free speech nor could they because they are not part of the government.  They are not supporting a one-party state. Regulating private industry is the job of the government, as per the US Constitution's commerce clause. 

The primary goal is to stop neo-Nazis and white supremacists from gaining a platform rather than to promote a specific antifa agenda. The antifa groups are decidedly anti-racist, anti-sexist and anti-homophobia, but also by and large socially leftist and anti-capitalist.
 
 
 
Spikegary
Junior Quiet
10.3.17  Spikegary  replied to  epistte @10.3.16    6 years ago
The primary goal is to stop neo-Nazis and white supremacists from gaining a platform

And doing this by using the same and worse tactics than who they are against.  What part of their hypocrisy do you need more in depth explanation of?

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Guide
10.3.18  epistte  replied to  Spikegary @10.3.17    6 years ago
And doing this by using the same and worse tactics than who they are against.  What part of their hypocrisy do you need more in depth explanation of?

History has shown that you cannot fight fascism with peaceful protests so they have turned the alt-right's own violent tactics against them and it seems to be working.  I wish that there was another way to fight fascism but apparently they only understand blunt force.  

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
10.3.19  Sparty On  replied to  epistte @10.3.18    6 years ago

This is going to end badly for antifa.   Some dumb-ass starry eyed kid(s) is going to get needlessly hurt/killed tilting at windmills created by a bunch of self centered, narcissistic pricks with no skin in the game.

If and when fascism really becomes a threat to this country i'll be right on the front lines fighting it.   I'm beginning to think we are closer to that than i've ever thought though.   Only its the idiots supposedly fighting fascism that are the problem.

And i'm not alone in thinking that way.   Trust that!

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Guide
10.3.20  epistte  replied to  Sparty On @10.3.19    6 years ago
If and when fascism really becomes a threat to this country i'll be right on the front lines fighting it.   I'm beginning to think we are closer to that than i've ever thought though.   Only its the idiots supposedly fighting fascism that are the problem.

How are the Antifa a threat to you if you are not fascist or support fascist ideas?

 
 
 
96WS6
Junior Quiet
10.3.21  seeder  96WS6  replied to  epistte @10.3.20    6 years ago
How are the Antifa a threat to you if you are not fascist or support fascist ideas?

PLEASE!  Yea they only harass "fascists and Nazis" Eye Roll  The problem is everyone who disagrees with them is a fascist or Nazi.

  In this case a bunch of white ANTIFA terrorists/racists are harassing a black woman they accuse of "white supremacy" as they make racist remarks at the black police trying to protect her..

Her crime?  She left the plantation and has the balls to encourage others to do the same. 

Definition of   fascism

often capitalized   :   a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized  autocratic  government headed by a  dictatorial  leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

Watch a fine example of the very definition of FASCISM  here:

 
 
 
Phoenyx13
Sophomore Silent
10.3.22  Phoenyx13  replied to  Sparty On @10.3.19    6 years ago
If and when fascism really becomes a threat to this country i'll be right on the front lines fighting it. 

would you fight it using the same tactics they use ?

i think someone said:

And doing this by using the same and worse tactics than who they are against.  What part of their hypocrisy do you need more in depth explanation of?

so how would you "fight" fascism without being hypocritical ?

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
10.3.23  Sparty On  replied to  epistte @10.3.20    6 years ago

They are attempting to control free speech.   A concern for everyone in this country.

A better example fascist behavior i can not think of right now.

The thing about free speech is ..... its easy to accept when you agree with what is being said.   It only gets hard when you don't.  

Those pricks in black need to learn that lesson.   Hopefully they don't get hurt or hurt others before they do.

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Guide
11  epistte    6 years ago

Candace Owners is a GOP political hack with no answers. She thinks that she should get a pass for her Trump support because of her skin color.

Owens, like most young pundits that make it to Fox, never really offered any solutions other than becoming Republican. She did comment on the struggles of Democrat-led cities such as Chicago and pivoted to what seems to be an Obama reference, saying that he made it to the White House and then did absolutely nothing for African-Americans.

To say Obama did nothing is kind of stretch. It’s another empty argument that can be picked apart with a simple Google search or by clicking on the White House’s Progress of the African-American Community during the Obama Administration. That site gives facts on everything from higher income levels to extra funds distributed to historically black colleges and the creation of the My Brother’s Keeper program. Given that Republicans also refused to work with Obama on pretty much everything, he actually achieved quite a lot.

False facts are one thing, but my biggest problem with Owen and the news stations that book such fact-less pundits for fact-less segments is how they manage to ignore the obvious.

Truly, what has Donald Trump done for anyone other than members of the top 1 percent? Remember that we have a Republican Congress and a conservative-majority Supreme Court and still­­ nothing is being done. Instead, we've got a president who seems to be putting all his effort into to becoming more incompetent and openly racist every day. Dude just called a guy an S.O.B. for taking a peaceful stand against violence.
 
 
 
96WS6
Junior Quiet
11.1  seeder  96WS6  replied to  epistte @11    6 years ago
 Candace Owners is a GOP political hack with no answers. She thinks that she should get a pass for her Trump support because of her skin color.

Thank you for unwittingly proving my point. 

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Guide
11.1.1  epistte  replied to  96WS6 @11.1    6 years ago

I didn't prove your point. 

The Antifa have then right to question her statements, just as they do for everyone else. 

 
 
 
96WS6
Junior Quiet
11.1.2  seeder  96WS6  replied to  epistte @11.1.1    6 years ago

You just tried to excuse FASCISM by attacking the victim.  You can try and spin it anyway you want

The Antifa have then right to question her statements, just as they do for everyone else. 

So it's not harassment it's "questioning" when ANTIFA does it.  Don't look now but your hypocrisy is showing. 

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Guide
11.1.3  epistte  replied to  96WS6 @11.1.2    6 years ago
So it's not harassment it's "questioning" when ANTIFA does it.  Don't look now but your hypocrisy is showing.

Would you have preferred if they sent her a questionnaire to fill out and return by SASE than to confront her face-to-face?  Stay out of the limelight if you can't handle the pressure that comes with it. 

 
 
 
96WS6
Junior Quiet
11.1.4  seeder  96WS6  replied to  epistte @11.1.3    6 years ago

I would have preferred they asked her questions like civilized human beings or that they at least made it clear what they were protesting instead of harassing them, screaming in their faces and throwing water on them.  The fact you keep trying to defend them and this type of behavior speaks volumes.  You have made it clear you are OK with ANTIFA's brand of racism and fascism.   Pssst it's showing again....

I couldn't help noticing you ignored the first comment as well.winking     

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Guide
11.1.5  epistte  replied to  96WS6 @11.1.4    6 years ago

I would prefer that the Antifa didn't need to exist because Neo-nazis and the alt-right also didn't exist, but wishes seldom come to fruition

She is defending Donald Trump's racist policies so she is far from immune to being called on her support. I would hope it is peaceful but that doesn't always happen.  Donald Trump isn't Gandhi, so she needs to accept the consequences of what and who she supports. 

 
 
 
96WS6
Junior Quiet
11.1.6  seeder  96WS6  replied to  epistte @11.1.5    6 years ago

Right.  We have already established you support and condone the ANTIFA brand of racism and Fascism.   It is also now obvious you also agree with Maxine Waters and that harassing your political opponents is OK.  But I thought you were Anti-facist.  Don't look now but it's showing again.

 
 
 
epistte
Junior Guide
11.1.7  epistte  replied to  96WS6 @11.1.6    6 years ago
Right.  We have already established you support and condone the ANTIFA brand of racism and Fascism.

Why do you keep trying to deny the Trump administration support for fascism and racism?

How can the Antifa be fascist or racist?

 
 
 
96WS6
Junior Quiet
11.1.8  seeder  96WS6  replied to  epistte @11.1.7    6 years ago
How can the Antifa be fascist or racist?

Did you watch the video or read the definition?    Did you miss this part?

social regimentation,andforcible suppression of opposition
Harassing your political opponents in the manner Antifa engages in IS fascism.   It's really that simple.
 
 
 
epistte
Junior Guide
11.1.9  epistte  replied to  96WS6 @11.1.8    6 years ago
Harassing your political opponents in the manner Antifa engages in IS fascism.   It's really that simple.

Your video is extremely biased because they oppose the mere existence of the Antifa.  

 
 
 
96WS6
Junior Quiet
11.1.10  seeder  96WS6  replied to  epistte @11.1.9    6 years ago

What does the way they feel about Antifa have to do with what is happening in the video?   Are you trying to say you not only condone it but this is what anyone should expect who disagrees with them?  ...because they ARE in fact Fascists?

 
 
 
96WS6
Junior Quiet
11.1.11  seeder  96WS6  replied to  epistte @11.1.9    6 years ago

You know this is actually a perfect example.  I would also remind you that your attitude that "your violence is justified because you have the moral high ground" is what brought us the Crusades (pick your religion) and Islamic terrorism to name just a few...Antifa included

 
 
 
sixpick
Professor Quiet
12  sixpick    6 years ago

NBC Ignores Own Reporter and Crew Assaulted By Antifa in Charlottesville

Wonder if these people really think we are so stupid we can't see the hypocrisy?

 
 
 
96WS6
Junior Quiet
12.1  seeder  96WS6  replied to  sixpick @12    6 years ago

Really?  You have to wonder?winking

 
 

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