WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO LOSE?
To quote President Trump, “What do you have to lose?” We all heard that ludicrous statement used by the most disingenuous man who has ever sat in the White House. Now we should ask the same question in regard to Justice Kavanaugh. If he is telling the truth, “What do you have to lose?” if the man is telling the truth. A full and extensive investigation and hearing would certainly exonerate an innocent man. The information that could be gained by an FBI investigation could be completed in 3 to 4 days. A hearing with the testimony of all potential witnesses would probably take no more than three days. At the end of that period of time, the public would have a clearer picture of what happened almost 40 years ago and the country could move on with either the confidence that Justice Kavanaugh is innocent of the charges that are being levied against him, or the Republicans could join with their Democratic counterparts in a rare show of cooperation and vote down the nomination of a man for whom the testimony proved is unfit to serve on the SCOTUS. This could all happen in a week to ten days. A small price to pay for a confirmation to a position that will last a lifetime.
“What do you have to lose?” The implications of the question are massive. The Kavanaugh nomination was made to fulfill a campaign pledge. The President promised to nominate Supreme Court Justices who would either repeal or decimate Roe v. Wade. It was the central promise made to bring his most conservative and religious supporters on board. It was a promise to the single issue voters of this country. The President’s promise got half way home with the nomination and confirmation of Neil Gorsuch to a SCOTUS seat that was controversial only in the fact it should have been filled a year earlier, under the Obama administration. Gorsuch, however, was replacing the most conservative member of the court, and thus, didn’t change the ideological makeup of the court.
This nomination is different. Kavanaugh is replacing the swing vote on the court. It changes the ideological balance {which is a presidential prerogative}. That is not the issue. The issue is the honesty and veracity of a SCOTUS nominee. Throughout the process, there have been questions about Kavanaugh’s veracity during his nomination to the D.C. circuit, and his propensity for over-analyzing decisions through creative, if not oddly drawn logic. He was, however, on the road to confirmation.
The allegations of Dr. Ford are another major issue that must be fully investigated. What do you have to lose? Dr. Ford is either telling the truth or is being mendacious. If she is telling the truth, Kavanaugh has no business on the court. If she is being mendacious, the confirmation can proceed unfettered. It does seem strange, however, that the accuser is pressing for a full scaled investigation under penalty of perjury, while the nominee and the entire republican establishment are trying to discourage fact finding. You would think that truly innocent individuals would be fully supportive of a complete investigation.
What do you have to lose? We understand that one of the things you have to lose is a Trump toady who will fight for the principle that a sitting president is immune from any crime or the investigation into any crime. We understand that you will have a strong anti-choice vote on the SCOTUS, but every nominee that this White House brings forth will be anti-choice, since every nominee has to be approved by the Federalist Society.
What do you have to lose? A perception that the administration is full of sexual predators and is trying to normalize predation among women. A perception that this president cannot choose competent nominees for offices. The realization that the republican party may still have some sane members who will not march in lockstep with the president’s march toward burning the capitol while he plays the fiddle. And it seems, a senate that only can think with one mind. A realization that they are rats that are willing to go down with the sinking ship and will drown in a sea of public anger.
Maybe what the administration has to lose is actually what the nation has to gain.
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So far the optics are all in Dr. Ford's favor. She wants the investigation. She wants witnesses. She has evidence. Kavanaugh wants nothing. His one witness doesn't want to testify in public. It certainly leads to believing Dr. Ford's account.
if that were the truth, why did DiFi sit on this allegation for months?
the intent is obvious, an 11tth hour smear. I think most Americans can see that.
There’s that. And the fact that dems are using the “MeToo” movement as a cheap political stunt.
Actually, according to an Echelon-Insights poll this week....46% believe Ford, only 19% believe Kavanaugh and the rest was to see an investigation to prove the allegation one way or another.....So I guess your insight to what Americans can see is just a bit reversed.
Those poll numbers give me even more confidence in my insights.
Not just the wording, but also the chosen demographic - polls are so easily skewed. The only pollsters that IMO have an ounce of veracity are Gallup and Pew, and I'm not so sure about them.
She's afraid to testify. She has no evidence. She has no facts. She rejects logic and common sense. She's a liberal operative. Co firm Kavanaugh on Monday. Screw the liberals.
She identifies three people and Kavanaugh at the party. All four deny being present/it happening.
It's absurd this is moving forward.
What intrigues me is the use of the yin yang symbol on the FP post of this article. For those who are unaware, it is the most popular Taoist symbol, representing a philosophy wherein two elements are required to benefit each other - a symbiotic relationship - for example there would be no shadow if there were no light. A dictionary explanation with respect to human application that I found is this:
Perhaps DocPhil (is that an indication that the member is a Doctor of Philosophy? And if so, is it honourary or if not then what field? Or is the name of the member "Phillip" and he is a medical doctor or dentist?) should explain what relevance the symbol has to this article. As I see it, it could mean that perhaps Kavanaugh and Ford were bound together in such an incident if it happened, and one would not have done it if the other were not supportive, as it was a benefit to both. How one may describe it afterward could depend on intent.
Look to the left of symbol
Maybe what the administration has to lose is what the nation has to gain.
"Look to the left of [the] symbol" ??? The symbol fills the whole space for a picture. There is NOTHING to the left of the symbol. Your following statement has nothing to do with yin yang - the significance of yin yang is that both benefit - "gain and loss" is irrelevant to yin yang.
Geez Buzz, my bad, it's to the left of symbol here, and symbolizes to me,
the loss of the pompous selfish self & nation defeating direction this administration has taken our country,
would benefit ALL OF US in this COUNTRY, just some aren't bright enough to get that, cause they've been played
What is there to lose? A man's reputation will be forever tainted as was the Duke Lacrosse team over false allegations. Ford needs to provide actual proof and witnesses to back up her current story which is somewhat contradicted by her therapist's notes (being attacked by FOUR boys not two and no names). The witness she claims to have been there cannot remember anything like that happening, so she is providing us with a nothing burger expecting us to do exactly what was done in the Duke Lacrosse team incident and immediately believe her without any sort of proof and destroy Kavanaugh's reputation. Until she provides actual evidence that there was a party that she and Kavanaugh attended and has witnesses corroborate the happenings at the party; then there should not be any movement to investigate this.
It's cute some liberals are still going through the charade of pretending to care what Ms. Ford testifies to. It's cute they pretend that allegations of violence against women trouble them. The current VICE CHAIRMAN OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY has been accused of assaulting multiple women (not to mention the Democratic Senators who will sit on Judgement of Kavanugh who've been accused of assaulting women too) and they could care less. What do the men and women who are so worked up about a single 35 year old allegation say in defense of Karen Monaghan? Nothing.
Hell they got more worked up over allegations about an imaginary Monaghan and the imaginary rapes of her at the UVA. Demonizing Frat boys is political gold for Democrats, black Muslim Democratic party leaders, not so much.
Democrats only care about these allegations when it's politically advantageous. Anybody who argues otherwise is selling you something.
I give credit to the Democratic activist who wrote the Op-ed in the New York Times and admitted evidence doesn't matter. It's all about politics. Everything the Democratic leadersihip has done since they decided to sit on this allegation has been dictated by political considerations. Not fairness, not justice. Just a cynical attempt to steal a Supreme Court seat.
YOu naively ask "what's the problem with delay?" as if delay hasn't been the whole point of everything the Democrats have done. They want to steal the seat (Harano admitted as much) and delaying everything is the best chance of doing that. IF you think the people who are leading the parrots in chirping for delay give a shit about justice, or fairness, you've not paid attention.
So let's stop pretending the Democrats care about White as anything other than a tool to steal a seat. Look at their treatment of Karen Monaghan if you need evidence of that. It'd be better for everyone if we were honest about what's going on.
Nonsense. There is no investigation that would ever appease those demanding his hide.