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Experts to Melania Trump: You Are Not the ‘Most Bullied Person in the World’

  

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Via:  hal-a-lujah  •  7 years ago  •  161 comments

Experts to Melania Trump: You Are Not the ‘Most Bullied Person in the World’
“It’s a misuse of a term that shouldn’t be used by someone in power,” she added. “And the First Lady, like it or not, is someone with a lot of power.”

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On her recent swing through Africa, between visits with dignitaries and photo-ops in front of the Great Sphinx, First Lady Melania Trump declared that she could be “the most bullied person in the world.”

To experts who study bullying and work to prevent it, the suggestion was absurd.

“It’s really crazy to say that she is being bullied,” said Fred Rivara, a professor of pediatrics at the University of Washington and expert on child bullying. For an interaction to meet the threshold of bullying, he explained, it must involve an imbalance of power.

“The big thing here with Melania Trump is she’s the one in power,” Rivara said. “Her husband is The president of the United States. So how can she say that she’s bullied?”

Trump made the comments in an interview with ABC News aired Thursday, in which she promoted her anti-bullying initiative, Be Best. Her focus on the issue has raised eyebrows in light of her husband’s penchant for doling out insults and abuse.

Dressed in colonial-settler chic for her tour through Ghana, Malawi, Kenya and Egypt last week, Trump told ABC’s Tom Llamas that she started the initiative in part because of “what people are saying about me.”

“I could say I’m the most bullied person in the world,” she added, not explaining further what she meant by the comment.

Parry Aftab, the founder of the StopCyberbullying program, acknowledged that Trump has been the target of harsh criticism online. But she argued that this kind of scrutiny should be expected by those in the public eye.

“When you're involved in politics and public life, you need to recognize that you are a target for everybody,” Aftab told The Daily Beast. “People may not like your hair, people may not like your politics, they may not like who you’re married to … But if you enter public life, that’s part of the cost that you pay for that.”

Aftab also worried that the First Lady’s comments would divert attention from those who are the most vulnerable to bullying: children. According to the National Center for Education Statistics, nearly 30 percent of U.S. students in grades 6-12 have experienced bullying, and more than 70 percent have witnessed it.

LGBTQ youth and children with disabilites are especially vulnerable to bullying, particularly online. A third of all lesbian, gay, and bisexual youth are bullied at school, and LGB kids are twice as likely to be cyberbullied as their straight peers, according to the Trevor Project.

“I think it belittles kids who are afraid to go to school, who are afraid to turn on Instagram because of [cyberbullying],” Atab said of the First Lady’s comments.

“It’s a misuse of a term that shouldn’t be used by someone in power,” she added. “And the First Lady, like it or not, is someone with a lot of power.”


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Hal A. Lujah
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1  seeder  Hal A. Lujah    7 years ago

I don't know what happened to the previously seeded article about this, but it has disappeared.

Let's face it - Melania is a total idiot.  All anyone needs to do is google 'nude Melania pics" and you can see photos of the President's wife fully naked in bed with another naked woman.  Lots of them.  And she thinks she is being bullied?  It's sickening to think that her husband is the leader of the party that is known for slut shaming women just for wearing revealing clothing.  Apparently Melania really is Einstein to them.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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1.4  Tacos!  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @1    7 years ago
It's sickening to think that her husband is the leader of the party that is known for slut shaming women just for wearing revealing clothing.

Oh I think the Left has stolen that title for itself. If you want to see some rampant slut-shaming, look for comments (including on this website) about Melania when Trump was running and after he won the election. I have never seen anyone slut-shamed to that degree.

Arguably, you even bringing up the photos is a kind of slut-shaming. Basically, you're saying she brought this on herself. She deserves the comments. It's what she gets for being naked on camera or with another woman. Victim-blaming. Slut-shaming. It's all the same.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.5  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @1    7 years ago

I'm glad I saved a copy

 
 
 
lennylynx
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1.6  lennylynx  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @1    7 years ago

Hang on a minute there Hal.  How does Melania's porn career prove that she has not been bullied?  Or that she's an idiot?  In fact, I would say that many women who resorted to porn, HAVE been bullied.  Perhaps directly bullied into engaging in it, or choosing it to escape bullying, build their own wealth.  I have no idea what Melania has gone through in her life, and will not stand in judgement of her.  She may have even been bullied into making her recent, awful statement.  Her abusive, scumbag husband is the most powerful man in the world

 
 
 
pat wilson
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1.6.1  pat wilson  replied to  lennylynx @1.6    7 years ago

Please don't make her out to be a victim. She's made specific choices throughout her life which have brought her to where she is today. We all make life choices, some good, some bad. Everyone has to deal with the consequences.

 
 
 
lennylynx
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1.6.3  lennylynx  replied to  pat wilson @1.6.1    7 years ago

We are all victims of our environment Pat, and everybody does not have the same opportunities.  I'm not trying to make her out to be anything, just saying I'm not in a position to judge her and neither is Hal.  Do you think her porn career proves she has never been bullied and is an idiot?

 
 
 
pat wilson
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1.6.4  pat wilson  replied to  Texan1211 @1.6.2    7 years ago
Are you saying that there are no victims--just people who have to live with their own decisions?

Re-read my post, I didn't say anything like that. 

 
 
 
pat wilson
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1.6.5  pat wilson  replied to  lennylynx @1.6.3    7 years ago
Do you think her porn career proves she has never been bullied and is an idiot?

I don't think she was 'bullied" into having a porn career. Or into marrying trump. 

Idiot ? Meh, maybe just not the sharpest tool in the shed.

 
 
 
lennylynx
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1.6.6  lennylynx  replied to  pat wilson @1.6.5    7 years ago

I didn't ask if she was forced into a porn career.  I asked if having a porn career proved that she has not been bullied, as Hal suggests.  I also did not ask how smart you thought she was, I asked if you thought her having a porn career proved that she was stupid, as Hal also suggested.  Do you want to try again?

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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1.6.7  seeder  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  lennylynx @1.6.3    7 years ago

just saying I'm not in a position to judge her and neither is Hal

A Ukrainian woman (or whatever the fuck she is) poses for soft core fully nude lesbian porn, then receives the extremely rare and coveted Einstein Visa for no reason, marries a scumbag billionaire who tricks rubes into electing him President* via a party of religious nut jobs that slut-shames women for wearing miniskirts, then fights tooth and nail to keep all people like her out of the country except for her parents - and I can’t judge her?  Yes, I can, and I do.  This woman is worthy of ridicule on a myriad of levels, because of choices she made.  She begs for it, like by wearing whore heals and a coat that says ‘I don’t care’ to visit disaster victims.  Fuck that worthless bitch.

 
 
 
pat wilson
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1.6.8  pat wilson  replied to  lennylynx @1.6.6    7 years ago

 I asked if having a porn career proved that she has not been bullied

No, it doesn't prove anything.

I also did not ask how smart you thought she was, I asked if you thought her having a porn career proved that she was stupid, as Hal also suggested.  Do you want to try again?

Your comment: Do you think her porn career proves she has never been bullied and is an idiot?

I said "Meh, maybe not the sharpest tool in the shed".

Maybe you should try again

 
 
 
lennylynx
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1.6.9  lennylynx  replied to  pat wilson @1.6.8    7 years ago

No, what you said was "Idiot?" THEN what you quoted yourself.  I like how you left out the question "Idiot?"  Asked that way is asking if she's an idiot.  I think you're lying.  You asked if she was an idiot then gave your opinion.  That's how I read it.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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1.6.10  seeder  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  lennylynx @1.6.6    7 years ago

... if you thought her having a porn career proved that she was stupid, as Hal also suggested.

Having a porn career, and then expecting the public to look the other way about that when she becomes the First Lady makes her stupid as fuck.

By the way, you seem to be suggesting that nobody knows if she had a rough upbringing that led her into porn, like so many other porn stars.  Consider that Donald Trump just let her foreign parents into this country, while calling all Mexicans rapists.

 
 
 
pat wilson
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1.6.12  pat wilson  replied to  lennylynx @1.6.9    7 years ago

I think we misunderstand each other and I'm letting go of it. Have a good night.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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1.6.13  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Texan1211 @1.6.11    7 years ago
Trump never called all Mexicans rapists.

Y not state his quote  ?

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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1.6.16  igknorantzrulz  replied to  pat wilson @1.6.12    7 years ago
misunderstand

ive been misunderstood

most of my life.

.

its possible Lenny's point would be

we do not know her complete past,

and possibly shouldn't go judging her, until we velcrowed on a pair of her high heels

but

that's just my ignorant take

.

ive known many a young lady who has made some "questionable" decisions, that I, as a maleman, could never deliver an experienced answer asz I lacked empathy,

as my experiences,  always required a PO box, cause unlike Trump,

I was pist off, not pist upon,

and remain

but WTH would I know

.

U 2   can disagree, pro bono

or anti uncle bono, just not the lunacy of sunny bono

cause just like george

watch out for that trea son

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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1.6.17  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Texan1211 @1.6.15    7 years ago

 asked me for the quote when clearly someone else made the claim that Trump said it."

.

afraid it mite tick you off and bug you, as it mayfly in the face of a fly flying around my face

square into my open lockjaw filled with mesquite seasoned briquettes fresh off the grill into mine, like a canary,

tweetin about some absurd dyslexic bird flown south for the summer cause like mine, he was coal, and shakin in his bacon bitz filled stockin shelves, selfishly stocked buy Keebler elvis's thrown from plains n simply too complex, to face their complexions

also,

I thought it would bolster your correction of his inaccurate statement,

but you know me, never ever able to properly state what I think I meant

especially when addressing you

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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1.6.18  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Texan1211 @1.6.14    7 years ago

Here is the correct quote.

"They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

 
 
 
lennylynx
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1.6.20  lennylynx  replied to  pat wilson @1.6.12    7 years ago

Wrong, the problem is that you won't own up to your statements.  Having a porn career says NOTHING about a person's intelligence and it sure as hell does not prove that the person has never been bullied, suggests the opposite if anything.  You can deny your intent and Hal can go off on a hate-filled rant all you guys want, it won't change this.  I speak the truth. 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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1.6.23  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Texan1211 @1.6.19    7 years ago

Even a broken watch is correct twice a day.jrSmiley_9_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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1.6.26  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Release The Kraken @1.6.24    7 years ago

I don't.  I have a flip phone that I barely use as it is.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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1.6.27  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Release The Kraken @1.6.24    7 years ago
Who needs to wear a watch anymore? "
.
Washington Post Reporters ?

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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1.6.28  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Texan1211 @1.6.25    7 years ago
Pity that "rule" doesn't apply to people!

OK there Mr.

T  EXAN

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  JohnRussell    7 years ago

Melania told an interviewer today, or yesterday, that rumors about her husband's infidelities are "gossip". 

She likes her queenly lifestyle more than she likes the truth. I pay her no attention. 

 
 
 
pat wilson
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2.2  pat wilson  replied to  JohnRussell @2    7 years ago
her husband's infidelities are "gossip". 

Melania knew who trump was when he cheated on Moola with her. And she knew he cheated on Ivana with Moola. What a sordid nasty mess.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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2.2.1  sandy-2021492  replied to  pat wilson @2.2    7 years ago

Yup.  Does he even bother to deny it anymore?  If he doesn't, I don't understand why she bothers.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.3  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @2    7 years ago
I pay her no attention.

But you watch interviews with her? jrSmiley_87_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.3.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Tacos! @2.3    7 years ago

They showed about 30 seconds of it on a news program this morning. 

What else can I straighten you out on? 

 
 
 
lennylynx
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2.4  lennylynx  replied to  JohnRussell @2    7 years ago

What do you expect her to say when asked about it?

 
 
 
Spikegary
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3  Spikegary    7 years ago

I've seen the disgusting comments from people right here on Newstalkers-people that speak as if they actually know her, but are advancing nothing more than a political act of vengeance on anyting and everything 'Trump'.  Is it bullying?  Probably not.  Sick?  Twisted?  Disgusting?  Marginal minds?  Yes.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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3.1  seeder  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Spikegary @3    7 years ago

Lol!  Do you remember a lady named Michelle Obama, aka Moochelle as NT conservatives liked to call her?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3.1    7 years ago

They never see what their own kind does. 

 
 
 
Spikegary
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3.1.4  Spikegary  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3.1    7 years ago

I would not and have never called her that.  I choose to refer to those people by their titles.

 
 
 
Spikegary
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3.1.5  Spikegary  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.1    7 years ago

I see you doing this everyday, here on NV, John.  Glasshouses and such?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Spikegary @3    7 years ago

When people posted a "photo" of Michelle Obama with a bulge in her crotch, did you complain about that? 

lol. 

 
 
 
Spikegary
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3.2.2  Spikegary  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2    7 years ago
I've seen the disgusting comments from people right here on Newstalkers-people that speak as if they actually know her, but are advancing nothing more than a political act of vengeance on anyting and everything 'Trump'.  Is it bullying?  Probably not.  Sick?  Twisted?  Disgusting?  Marginal minds?  Yes.

See my comment I've repeated for you.  Where oh where did I ever mention Mrs. Obama?  We are discussing Mrs. Trump - the subject of this seed.

 
 
 
Spikegary
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3.2.3  Spikegary  replied to  Tessylo @3.2.1    7 years ago

And what does Uncle bruce's Blog have to do with a story about Mrs. Trump?  If you have a problem with his blog, go comment there-though he will likely delete you pretty quickly..........

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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3.2.4  seeder  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Spikegary @3.2.2    7 years ago

I must say, I've checked but I cannot seem to find nude lesbian pics of Michelle Obama on the internet.  Who is a more appropriate first lady?

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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3.2.6  seeder  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.5    7 years ago

99.999% of American women do not have pictures of themselves in nude lesbian positions on the internet, but Melania does (although it's a stretch to call her an American).  I guess she is just special that way.

Wait - before you say it, let me help you out … 

prove it

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.2.8  Sparty On  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3.2.6    7 years ago
(although it's a stretch to call her an American)

Not really.   She's been a US citizen since 2006.    Unlike the many truly "illegal aliens" who are not citizens at all and never have been.   You know, like the ones some on the left defend so adamantly.

They appear to hate legal citizens and love illegal aliens.   A practice which is quite a vexing action.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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3.2.9  seeder  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Sparty On @3.2.8    7 years ago

Yes, I know - she is the female equivalent of Albert Einstein.  Isn't it obvious?

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.2.10  Sparty On  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3.2.9    7 years ago

If you say so.  

Bill and Hillary were at her wedding to Trump so they didn't seem bothered by it.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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3.2.12  seeder  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Sparty On @3.2.10    7 years ago

Conservative strategy: when you run out of excuses, just bring up Bill and Hillary.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.2.14  Sparty On  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3.2.12    7 years ago

Liberal strategy ..... just say shit that isn't true and hope it sticks with the useful idiots in the hive

 
 
 
Spikegary
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3.2.15  Spikegary  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @3.2.4    7 years ago

Again, searching for photos of Mrs. Trump?  You do have akind of....obsession, don't you?

 
 
 
lib50
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3.2.16  lib50  replied to  Sparty On @3.2.14    7 years ago

Lol, you are describing the republican strategy, perfected and multiplied by Trump.  You can't possibly think anybody will give credence to opinions from people who believe and promote Trump/GOP lies.  Go read his latest bundle of lies about healthcare.  Pretty much every line was false/lie/bs/fakenews. 

Meantime, Melania perfectly fits with Trump and his ego, arrogance, narcissism and money worship.  Do you not think people are judging by their words and actions?  Melania's family's 'chain migration' is good.  The rest of America can suck it.   It's all about them.  And Kanye.

 
 
 
It Is ME
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4  It Is ME    7 years ago

"Cyberbullying" is when someone is tormented, threatened, harassed, humiliated, embarrassed or otherwise targeted by another" !

According to Fred Rivara…..only "Certain" people can be "Cyber-Bullied" now. jrSmiley_80_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5  Tacos!    7 years ago
For an interaction to meet the threshold of bullying, he explained, it must involve an imbalance of power. “The big thing here with Melania Trump is she’s the one in power,” Rivara said. “Her husband is The president of the United States. So how can she say that she’s bullied?”

Oh, this is some obvious political BS here. The power imbalance in bullying is about the power to retaliate. Bullies torment their victims because - being cowards - they do not have a reason to fear retaliation. They abuse people because they believe there is no risk to themselves. If they thought there were such a risk, they would not dare to engage in their bullying behavior.

This is what makes cyberbullying so easy. There is no danger in abusing someone over the internet because they cannot respond by instantly punching you in the nose.

“It’s a misuse of a term that shouldn’t be used by someone in power,” she added. “And the First Lady, like it or not, is someone with a lot of power.”

That's ridiculous. What is she going to do with that power? Have the person arrested? Defenders of the 1st Amendment would howl, and rightfully so. The truth is there's nothing she can do about it, which is why it continues.

At stopbullying.gov , cyberbullying is defined. There is no vague requirement about imbalance of power vis a vis political influence.

Cyberbullying is bullying that takes place over digital devices like cell phones, computers, and tablets. Cyberbullying can occur through SMS, Text, and apps, or online in social media, forums, or gaming where people can view, participate in, or share content. Cyberbullying includes sending, posting, or sharing negative, harmful, false, or mean content about someone else. It can include sharing personal or private information about someone else causing embarrassment or humiliation.

That said, is Melania Trump the most bullied person in the world? I'd assume that is probably impossible to measure, but I would say she is a reasonably good candidate for the #1 slot. Her Twitter account has 11 million followers, which is pretty substantial and allows for the possibility of millions of bullies attacking her. Additionally, there are likely many people on Twitter who don't follow her or people on other platforms saying obnoxious things about her. She takes a fair amount of abuse from the media, too.

So she may not be the most bullied person, but I have no problem conceding that she is more bullied than most.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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6  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu     7 years ago

“I could say I’m the most bullied person in the world,” she added, not explaining further what she meant by the comment.

LOL.. She's married to Donald Trump No further explanation needed. 

 
 
 
freepress
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11  freepress    7 years ago

Awww, poor little Melania, she gets her own Immigrant family here through "chain migration" and she is bullied??????

She thinks because people talk about her wardrobe choices negatively that she is being bullied? Did she feel that way when people did the same thing when she was a model?

Unbelievable how thin skinned the decadently wealthy happen to be. 

 
 

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