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Cohen: I covered up Trump’s ‘dirty deeds’

  

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Via:  johnrussell  •  6 years ago  •  100 comments

Cohen: I covered up Trump’s ‘dirty deeds’

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President Donald Trump’s ex-lawyer Michael Cohen says his “blind loyalty” to Trump led Cohen to “cover up his dirty deeds.”

Cohen said at his sentencing Wednesday that he takes “full responsibility” for the crimes he admitted committing. But he went on to say his allegiance to Trump led him “to take a path of darkness instead of light.”

Cohen has pleaded guilty to dodging taxes, lying to Congress and violating campaign finance laws.

Cohen, who used to be the president’s self-described fixer, could get about four to five years in prison.

His lawyer is arguing for leniency, noting Cohen’s cooperation with prosecutors investigating whether Russians attempted to influence Trump’s campaign.

But a prosecutor on the case against Cohen says Cohen’s crimes showed a pattern of deceit, brazenness and greed.

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* Cohen was sentenced to three years in prison - JR


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    6 years ago

Donald Trump will dispute Cohen.

Since Trump is a pathological liar he cannot be believed.

The personal attorney for the president of the United States is now going to prison for committing crimes on behalf of the president.

There is little doubt this will eventually lead to impeachment.

 
 
 
Spikegary
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1.1  Spikegary  replied to  JohnRussell @1    6 years ago

LOL, so who was convicted of lying to Congress?  But, of course, you will believe him becuase 'TRUMP'.

Still your President.  LOL

There is little doubt this will eventually lead to impeachment.

Based on the last 2 years of your writings, I'd say the coffee grounds in the bottom of your cup will also lead to impeachment.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Spikegary @1.1    6 years ago

Thanks for the comic relief.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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1.1.2  MrFrost  replied to  Spikegary @1.1    6 years ago
Still your President.  LOL

If you are proud that trump is your president, something is really wrong. Talk about setting the bar low.. Wow. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  seeder  JohnRussell    6 years ago

BOMBSHELL

National Enquirer parent company, AMI, said in a legal document today, that they paid off women on Trump's behalf for the purpose of keeping the  withheld information from influencing the election.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @2    6 years ago

Trump should resign now and spare the nation any more of this.  It is only going to get worse and worse for him.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.1.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    6 years ago
Trump should resign now and spare the nation any more of this

That's what an adult responsible President who cared about America would do, so there's no chance the man baby currently defiling the oval office would do anything of the sort.

 
 
 
cjcold
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2.1.2  cjcold  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    6 years ago

Just read the book 'Fear' by Bob Woodward. Also read a few other books by Comey and others who all claim that Trump is likely the worst person on the planet and that America is suffering due to this ignorant piece of shit president.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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2.2  1stwarrior  replied to  JohnRussell @2    6 years ago

National Inquirer??????  BBBBBRRRRRUUUUUUHHHHHHAAAAAHHHHHHAAAAA.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  1stwarrior @2.2    6 years ago

1st, I don't think you are up to speed on these things.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.2.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  1stwarrior @2.2    6 years ago
National Inquirer??????  BBBBBRRRRRUUUUUUHHHHHHAAAAAHHHHHHAAAAA

That wasn't a story in the National Enquirer, the kind that Trump once said they should win Pulitzer prizes for, it's the company stating in the legal documents what their owner and friend of Trump, David Pecker, did in regards to paying off a porn star and then squashing her story during the campaign.

"I need to open up a company for the transfer of all of that info regarding our friend David," Cohen said to Donald Trump on auto recordings of the conversation.

So if you're a Trump supporter, there's nothing in this story to laugh about.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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2.2.3  1stwarrior  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.1    6 years ago

And your rut is getting deeper and deeper John.  You make a comment regarding the parent company of the National Inquirer who has the same standards of the National Inquirer and you EXPECT people to fall over themselves wallowing in your magnanimous self-love???

Get real - oh, have a Happy Holidays. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.4  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  1stwarrior @2.2.3    6 years ago

I respect your right to your opinion, but I dont think you keep up with this news enough to have a truly informed opinion about it.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.5  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  1stwarrior @2.2    6 years ago
AMI admitted that it paid her “in concert with” the Donald Trump presidential campaign.

Said the SDNY prosecutors, “AMI admitted that it made the $150,000 payment in concert with a candidate’s presidential campaign, and in order to ensure that the woman did not publicize damaging allegations about the candidate before the 2016 presidential election.”

Prosecutors say AMI admitted “its principal purpose in making the payment was to suppress the woman’s story so as to prevent it from influencing the election.”

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.6  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.2.2    6 years ago

When it came out last week that Cohen claimed that the payments were made to influence the election people wondered if the prosecutors had anything besides Cohen's words to corroborate that.

The AMI statement serves as a form of corroboration for Cohen's claim.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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2.2.7  1stwarrior  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.4    6 years ago

John - as do you, I keep up with the news that has an impact on me and my family and on items of interest to me and my family. 

This constant bullshyte spouted 'bout Trump doesn't/won't have an impact on me nor my family nor is it of any interest to any 'cept the naysayers and haters of the party that lost the Presidential election.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.2.8  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.5    6 years ago
Prosecutors say AMI admitted “its principal purpose in making the payment was to suppress the woman’s story so as to prevent it from influencing the election.”

And yet the SDNY isn't prosecuting AMI. It would be extremely unusual for a prosecutor to forego prosecuting Party A because they cooperated in prosecuting Party B for doing the exact same thing. It's obvious discrimination. The usual course is to forego prosecuting Party A because they helped them prosecute Party B for doing something far worse. The politics of this are obvious.

 
 
 
cjcold
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2.2.9  cjcold  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.6    6 years ago

Just read Woodward's FEAR. This president is totally insane.

 
 
 
cjcold
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2.2.10  cjcold  replied to  1stwarrior @2.2.7    6 years ago
I keep up with the news

Obviously not. Trump will be wearing a prison orange jump suit before long.

His shyster just got three years. Trump will likely get longer.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.3  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @2    6 years ago
National Enquirer

You accuse Trump of being a pathological liar but you want us to believe the National Enquirer.

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Dismayed Patriot
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2.3.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Tacos! @2.3    6 years ago
You accuse Trump of being a pathological liar but you want us to believe the National Enquirer.

So because they often run stories chock full of lies, distortions and deflections, often praising Trump while vilifying liberals and progressives, their parent company AMI shouldn't be believed in a court filing? You believe they would treat a statement made to a judge the same as a fluff piece in their rag magazine? I mean, I've heard of being gullible but that bizarre flawed opinion takes it to a whole new level.

 
 
 
cjfrommn
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2.3.2  cjfrommn  replied to  Tacos! @2.3    6 years ago

you do know what parent company means right?  again this is not really difficult because the name is provided for you!!

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.3.3  Tacos!  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.3.1    6 years ago
their parent company AMI shouldn't be believed in a court filing?

I know they claimed repeatedly for months that they paid money for editorial reasons, and not to influence the election. Why should we believe them now? Because Democrats prefer this new lie?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.3.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tacos! @2.3    6 years ago

The right wingers loved the National Enquirer when it ripped the John Edwards story.....

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.3.5  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Tacos! @2.3.3    6 years ago
I know they claimed repeatedly for months that they paid money for editorial reasons, and not to influence the election. Why should we believe them now? Because Democrats prefer this new lie?

So when not under oath responding to reporters questions their spokesperson lied about their reasons for paying off a porn star and squashing a story, then faced with the evidence, they have under oath admitted to the court they did in fact make a payment to suppress a story and prevent it from influencing an election and to protect a specific candidate.

The legal system doesn't care what might have been said not under oath by random surrogates, they care only about what is said under oath which can be prosecuted if found to be false. That's why we have tens of thousands of people initially pleading not guilty to crimes but when faced with the evidence they take a plea deal and must, under oath, admit to their crime which our justice system accepts as proof of their guilt.

AMI chose to admit fault and pay some fines but avoid further prosecution that could have seen David Pecker seeing jail time. You can choose not to believe them if you wish, you can even disbelieve the Hollywood Access tape, the mountains of lies Trump has told, you might even refuse to believe the pee tape when it eventually gets released, that's your choice, but don't expect the rest of America to look the other way while the petulant criminal man baby continues to destroy American credibility and embarrass us around the world. If Trump weren't President right now, he would be under indictment for this crime which, by definition, means he not only thinks he's above the law, he technically is, for now. If the political candidate you prefer to support is literally only staying out of criminal prosecution by his position in the government, I'd recommend taking a good long look at why you want to support an unindicted coconspirator of a federal crime, not poo poo'ing the evidence against him.

 
 
 
Spikegary
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2.3.6  Spikegary  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.3.4    6 years ago

I've never actually seen one off the rack at the local Supermarket.  The cover is enough top keep me moving right on by.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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2.3.7  1stwarrior  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.3.4    6 years ago

C'mon Trout - not a damn one of the space invaders stories or Angelina having quadripulets or Elvis living in Manhatten or even John Edwards is new news.  What, something like 12 years ago?????

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.3.8  Trout Giggles  replied to  1stwarrior @2.3.7    6 years ago

C'mon, First! You know when that story broke people like me said "meh....it's the Enquirer, it's all BS"

And then it turned out to be true and everybody stopped in their tracks. Everybody.

But....this isn't about the Enquirer breaking a story. It's about their parent company copping a plea. Big difference

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.3.9  Split Personality  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.3.4    6 years ago
Under the non-prosecution agreement, the company admitted its purpose was to suppress the woman’s story and prevent it from influencing the election. The deal marks a change of allegiances for one of Trump’s biggest supporters. Pecker has been a close friend of Trump and gave positive coverage to his presidential campaign in the National Enquirer.

Pecker has been a key witness in the investigation of Cohen.

“As a part of the agreement, AMI admitted that it made the $150,000 payment in concert with a candidate’s presidential campaign, and in order to ensure that the woman did not publicize damaging allegations about the candidate before the 2016 presidential election,” the prosecutors wrote in a statement announcing the deal.

A spokesman for the company declined to comment.

AMI has “provided substantial and important assistance” to federal prosecutors in New York, the government said in an agreement with the media company. “AMI has made various personnel from AMI available for numerous interviews; engaged outside counsel to ensure the integrity of its compliance with and responses to subpoenas; and responded to numerous requests from prosecutors for various specific items of information.”

 
 
 
MrFrost
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2.3.10  MrFrost  replied to  Tacos! @2.3    6 years ago
You accuse Trump of being a pathological liar but you want us to believe the National Enquirer.

It's been in the news a few times that NE was supporting trump by trying to hide certain stories about trump. And now the NE is rolling over on trump. 

Seriously... It's now everyone else's word against a POTUS that literally lies 80% of the time. Who are YOU going to believe? LOL

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MrFrost
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2.3.11  MrFrost  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.3.4    6 years ago
The right wingers loved the National Enquirer when it ripped the John Edwards story.....

Bingo... This is the same thing most of the people on the right usually do. Support something as long as it fits their agenda, then cut ties and run as soon as they, (it), comes clean...

Remember when Rudy was screaming that Cohen was an honest and honorable man with tons if integrity? Now all the sudden he is a liar and a POS, (etc. etc. etc.). All about the agenda, truth be damned. 

 
 
 
pat wilson
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2.3.12  pat wilson  replied to  Tacos! @2.3    6 years ago
You accuse Trump of being a pathological liar but you want us to believe the National Enquirer.

Did you believe the National Enquirer when they broke the John Edwards scandal ? They were sure on the money with that one.

But as John explained, this matter has nothing to do with the validity of the publication it self.

 
 
 
cjcold
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2.3.13  cjcold  replied to  Tacos! @2.3    6 years ago

It doesn't take the National Enquirer to know that Trump is a pathological liar.

 
 
 
cjcold
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2.3.14  cjcold  replied to  Tacos! @2.3.3    6 years ago

I know what I know about Trump's negative insanities because he is too stupid and narcissistic to try to hide them. The fool thinks he is some sort of a god when what he suffers from is Dunning-Kruger effect.

And then we get Pence who ran a city into the ground and $ucks Koch cock. Owned by the Kochs.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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2.3.15  igknorantzrulz  replied to  cjcold @2.3.14    6 years ago

im positive of Trumps negatives as well

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.4  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @2    6 years ago

Fox’s Judge Andrew Napolitano: Prosecutors Have ‘Damning’ Evidence Donald Trump Committed a Felony

By Jenni Fink On 12/12/18 at 5:16 PM

Fox News judicial analysis Judge Andrew Napolitano said President Donald Trump could potentially be facing serious legal consequences based on evidence prosecutors claimed they have.

Following the sentencing of Trump’s former lawyer Michael Cohen, Napolitano told Fox News host Shepard Smith that prosecutors in New York City have evidence the president committed a felony. The felony, Napolitano explained, was when Trump allegedly ordered and paid Cohen to commit a crime.

While the specific details have not been shared with the public, Napolitano said prosecutors told the judge about Trump’s alleged payments. Under the rule of law, Napolitano explained, prosecutors can’t tell a judge that without having hard evidence to back up the claim and intend to do something with that evidence.

“The felony is paying Michael Cohen to commit a felony,” the judge said. “It’s pretty basic.… A hires B to shoot someone, A is as liable as if he had pulled the trigger. You pay someone to commit a crime you are liable, criminally liable.”

donald-trump-michael-cohen.jpg President Donald Trump speaks about border security with House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and Vice President Mike Pence in the Oval Office, on December 11. Following the sentencing of his former lawyer, Michael Cohen, Judge Andrew Napolitano said there is likely evidence Trump committed a felony. Mark Wilson/Getty Images

Napolitano admitted that he did not know what the prosecutors know, but he said that prosecutors had to corroborate the evidence through documents or interviews. It’s unclear if they have evidence of Trump’s intent, although the judge claimed that it doesn’t really matter.

“Under the law, a person is presumed to intend the natural and probable consequences of their behavior,” he said. “You pay your lawyer to commit a crime, you presume to intend for him to commit it.”

He called the revelation that prosecutors claim to have evidence of Trump committing a felony to be the most “damning and novel information” to be released on Friday. Napolitano added that the announcement of the settlement with American Media, Inc. (AMI) was the “last piece of the puzzle” in the case.

“The admission by AMI that the whole purpose for doing this was to influence the outcome of the election, that makes it a campaign expenditure, the failure to report which is a felony,” Napolitano told Smith.

As for how Trump’s lawyers are handling the situation, Napolitano said it should be taken with “great gravity” and warned Trump about being too confident that he's out of legal harm's way. 

“No rational person could construe this as exoneration unless they’re escaping reality,” the judge said. “He is in the crosshair of two federal prosecutors’ offices in his own Department of Justice.”

On Wednesday, the State Attorney's Office of the Southern District of New York (SDNY) said AMI admitted to paying $150,000 to ensure Playboy model Karen McDougal did not go public with allegations that she had an affair with Trump. The payment was made “in concert with” Trump’s campaign ahead of the presidential election, according to SDNY.

On Wednesday, Cohen was sentenced to 36 months in prison for charges that included campaign finance violations and lying to Congress.

https://www.newsweek.com/andrew-napolitano-fox-news-prosecutors-have-damning-evidence-trump-committed-1256353?utm_source=Public&utm_medium=Feed&utm_campaign=Distribution

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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5  Trout Giggles    6 years ago

If Cohen is guilty of campaign finance laws.....then so is trmp, right? I mean....who did Cohen help during the campaign? It certainly wasn't Hillary Clinton

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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5.2  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Trout Giggles @5    6 years ago

hey , Trump has NOT been found

at

the lost n found...

yet

 
 
 
cjcold
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5.2.1  cjcold  replied to  igknorantzrulz @5.2    6 years ago

Something in my mind

Tells me Trump is not so kind

This winter storm kills

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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5.2.2  igknorantzrulz  replied to  cjcold @5.2.1    6 years ago

sure hope so

 
 
 
Tacos!
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6  Tacos!    6 years ago

The politics of this are so obvious. The focus is on campaign finance law, but there is no way the government would have won a case on that charge at trial.

Everyone ignores the fact that Cohen is pleading guilty to eight charges , including years of tax evasion to the tune of $4 million, committing fraud to get bank loans, and lying to Congress. Every one of those charges is far more serious than the alleged campaign finance violation. 

Even if he lost at trial on the campaign finance charge, he likely would have only paid a fine.

They have made Cohen their puppet. He was looking at 4 or 5 years, and will instead get 36 months. He'll probably only serve half of that. The price is that he had to plead guilty to a charge they could never prove at trial and make a statement intended to embarrass the president.

And the media is complicit. Most headlines are like this lie, which reads:

" Michael Cohen sentenced to three years in prison for campaign finance violations "

He's not going to prison because he gave money to some woman. 

 
 
 
cjfrommn
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6.1  cjfrommn  replied to  Tacos! @6    6 years ago

you either need trump in your life to function or you like the fact that he has so many fires burning you like the warmth of them. 

in your most recent comments you want to brush everything off to political puppets and payments. sadly what seems to be lacking in your support of him, is his own actions and comments to questions that will be stated under oath. 

And it could all be based on the money he gave some woman. ( a lie here is a lie there)

 
 
 
Tacos!
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6.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  cjfrommn @6.1    6 years ago
you either need trump in your life to function or you like the fact that he has so many fires burning you like the warmth of them.

Thank you so much for addressing the content of my comment instead of engaging in ad hominem attacks. How refreshing and unusual.

/s

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.3  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Tacos! @6    6 years ago
They have made Cohen their puppet. He was looking at 4 or 5 years, and will instead get 36 months. He'll probably only serve half of that. The price is that he had to plead guilty to a charge they could never prove at trial and make a statement intended to embarrass the president.

Why do intelligent people insist on defending Donald Trump? If there has ever been an indefensible individual in national politics in our lifetimes, it is this clown Trump.

Some people, voters, willfully made themselves blind to his crimes, lies, cons, cheating bullying and witless blowharding, for years now, all just to get a non-liberal into power.

You bet on a bad horse, and the whole fricking thing is going to come tumbling down. All Trump supporters will be shown to have been either fooled or fools.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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6.3.2  Trout Giggles  replied to    6 years ago
It escapes me as well.

I think you have some good theories on why people keep on defending the man

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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6.3.3  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to    6 years ago

I don't necessarily disagree with people who feel "disenfranchised" being attracted to a populist politician. People who feel unrepresented by the power elite have been known to try and organize or "protest" to try and improve their lives through politics.

I don't think, in fact I know, Trump was never the answer.

Donald trump was a BIRTHER in 2011. In fact he was the king birther. He was at the time, and going forward, a despicable individual. He lied about Obama and lied to the media at that time when he said he had detectives out in Hawaii who were discovering incredible things about Obama's birth. That was all lies from Trump, and lies he told on a large national stage.

When he ran seriously for president 4 years later everyone should have been extremely leery of him and took a little time to look into him. It was also KNOWN , at the time Trump began to run in 2015, that he had been credibly accused of defrauding hundreds of people through his bogus Trump University.

Was there no one else that can run for president and represent the "disenfranchised" "deplorables" ? This lifelong criminal is the only one? I don't believe that.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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6.4  Split Personality  replied to  Tacos! @6    6 years ago
The price is that he had to plead guilty to a charge they could never prove at trial and make a statement intended to embarrass the president.

he plead guilty to 8 felonies  and will lose his meal ticket, his Attorneys license.

But Michael Cohen's days of practicing law may be over. 

Lawyers face automatic disbarment for a felony conviction under New York law. And Cohen pleaded guilty to eight of them on Tuesday

According to the law , any lawyer "who shall be convicted of a felony ... shall upon such conviction, cease to be an attorney and counsellor-at-law, or to be competent to practice law as such." 

 
 
 
MrFrost
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6.5  MrFrost  replied to  Tacos! @6    6 years ago
He's not going to prison because he gave money to some woman. 

There is a LOT more to it and you know it. Downplaying it will not lighten the consequences for the liar/cheater in chief. 

Prison for trumpy? I would be surprised if it comes to that, but I doubt he will be president after the next elections. Hell, I will be shocked if he finishes his term. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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6.5.1  Tacos!  replied to  MrFrost @6.5    6 years ago
Downplaying it

I'm not the one downplaying it. It's the press that's downplaying it. They want you to believe he went to prison because he paid off some strippers who claim they slept with Trump. That is not why he's going to prison.

 
 
 
cjfrommn
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6.5.2  cjfrommn  replied to  Tacos! @6.5.1    6 years ago
I'm not the one downplaying it.

yeah ok as if your comments suggest anything but your annoyance of members who recognize that trumps actions now have consequences that you wont acknowledge. 

It's the press that's downplaying it. They want you to believe he went to prison because he paid off some strippers who claim they slept with Trump.

are you sure you want to act like a  educated person should disregard the fact that Choen, DID pay a stripper that is confirmed to have had sex with the current president, as something to be seen as NORMAL, really. 

That is not why he's going to prison.

the press doesn't have to suggest which part of the choen actions determined the convictions.  they only have to provide that he is going to prison for enough violations of law that paying off a stripper can be included in ANYONE'S assumption of why he is going. 

for some odd reason here and up the thread you seem hell bent on suggesting that the stripper issue on its own should not change how someone should form an opinion of the current presidents ability to tell the truth. 

or did you miss the president saying( back in the beginning) that no money was paid to any stripper. UGH

 
 
 
Tacos!
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6.5.3  Tacos!  replied to  cjfrommn @6.5.2    6 years ago
a stripper that is confirmed to have had sex with the current president

To be fair, no one has suggested a stripper has had sex with the current president. I believe the allegation was that they had sex 10 or 12 years ago when Trump was a private citizen.

something to be seen as NORMAL

I don't know about "normal" but scandals are common with rich and famous people and they often pay off their accusers whether they did something wrong or not.

the press doesn't have to suggest which part of the choen actions determined the convictions

Correct. They are free to mislead. That's the 1st Amendment at work.

you seem hell bent on suggesting that the stripper issue on its own should not change how someone should form an opinion of the current presidents ability to tell the truth. or did you miss the president saying( back in the beginning) that no money was paid to any stripper

Oh it has an impact, but a small one. I feel the same way about Trump that I did about Clinton. i.e., I disapprove, but realistically, I don't expect any man to tell the truth about his illicit sexual affairs. I ultimately didn't see it impacting the way Clinton ran the country and I don't see it affecting Trump's administration either.

 
 
 
cjcold
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6.6  cjcold  replied to  Tacos! @6    6 years ago

There are a whole lot of reasons why Trump is going to prison.

 
 
 
cjcold
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6.7  cjcold  replied to  Tacos! @6    6 years ago

He only got 3 years because he turned on Trump.

I bought Boy Scout popcorn to watch the show to come.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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6.7.1  Tacos!  replied to  cjcold @6.7    6 years ago
He only got 3 years because he turned on Trump.

It sure doesn't seem that way. The prosecutor complained that Cohen did not cooperate in the way that they had hoped. For that reason, they asked the court for 3 1/2 years. Also, you don't usually sentence a guy that you plan to use as a witness at trial until after he actually testifies. Of course the Special Prosecutor could be a . . . erm . . . special case, but this makes it looks as if they have no intention of prosecuting Trump for anything Cohen told them.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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6.7.2  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Tacos! @6.7.1    6 years ago

wrong

 
 
 
Tessylo
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6.7.3  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @6.7.1    6 years ago

Not true.  They said just because he cooperated doesn't mean the slate should be wiped clean.  

 
 
 
cjcold
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6.8  cjcold  replied to  Tacos! @6    6 years ago

How about obstruction of justice? He admitted on TV that he fired Comey because of that "Russian thing".

 
 
 
Tacos!
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6.8.1  Tacos!  replied to  cjcold @6.8    6 years ago
He admitted on TV that he fired Comey because of that "Russian thing".

That isn't necessarily a problem. In his termination letter to Comey, Trump acknowledged that Comey had told him three times he wasn't under investigation, so it's hard to see Trump firing him to protect himself. I guess maybe you could argue he was trying to protect Michael Flynn, but that doesn't seem that nefarious, especially considering the very mild disposition he ended up with.

Maybe he just didn't like the circus atmosphere surrounding Comey regarding the investigation. That's certainly the kind of thing for which people in both parties have criticized him.

The bottom line is the president does have full authority to fire the FBI Director and he had letters from both the AG and the Assistant AG recommending it. He can have a whole basket of reasons, some of which you may or may not like, but proving that he abused his authority is going to be very difficult. It would also be difficult to show that it actually impeded the investigation because the investigation just rolled right along and Trump made no effort to stop it.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
7  devangelical    6 years ago

I hope he spills the beans on Sean Hannity before he goes to club fed.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @7    6 years ago

I forgot about Cohen's other client.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
8  seeder  JohnRussell    6 years ago

The incoming Attorney General of New York State has pledged to go after Trump and the Trump family on a variety of fronts related to financial wrongdoing as individuals and as the Trump Organization.

The nightmare has just begun for the First Criminal Family.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
8.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @8    6 years ago

Incoming New York AG Vows to Go After Trump and His ... - Law & Crime


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4 hours ago - Incoming New York AG Vows to Go After Trump and His Family on State Crimes. ...
New York’s incoming Attorney General Letitia James has ambitious plans to go after President Donald Trump for any crimes he may have committed in the Empire State before taking the White House.
 
 
 
cjcold
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8.1.1  cjcold  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1    6 years ago

Guess who just got sentenced to 3 years. Trump will look good in orange.

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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8.1.2  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  cjcold @8.1.1    6 years ago
Trump will look good in orange.
    Doesn't everything ?   LOL

512

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
PhD Quiet
8.1.3  igknorantzrulz  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @8.1.2    6 years ago

hes one color

straight

threw

away the key

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
8.1.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @8.1.2    6 years ago

your puppies would love that one

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
Sophomore Guide
8.1.5  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Trout Giggles @8.1.4    6 years ago
your puppies would love that one

LOL

They say dogs are color blind, But bright colors do seem to catch their eye so... Yep !! It'd certainly be a rag doll within minutes. 

 
 
 
lady in black
Professor Quiet
9  lady in black    6 years ago

Supposed intelligent people still defend the POS orange conman traitor in chief.  The world is watching, laughing and mocking us.
POS orange conman traitor in chief is  "America's Embarrassment"....sigh!

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Expert
10  MrFrost    6 years ago

Cohen's testimony is what will sink trump.....thankfully. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Expert
11  MrFrost    6 years ago

Trump lies ~80% of the time. How any of his supporters can say, with a straight face, "Everyone else is lying about trump, Donny is telling the truth", is both amazing and disturbing at the same time. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Expert
12  MrFrost    6 years ago

I remember with trumpy said the whole Stormy Daniels thing was fake news...

Oops.. LOL 

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Expert
13  MrFrost    6 years ago

This just gets better and better... LOL

Fox News: Prosecutors Have Evidence of Trump Felony and Will use it

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
13.1  cjcold  replied to  MrFrost @13    6 years ago

Just finished reading Woodward's book FEAR. This lying scumbag asshole should not be POTUS.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
14  Hal A. Lujah    6 years ago

Trump’s kids are next in the barrel.  Somebody in the Trump organization signed checks to reimburse Cohen for committing felonies on Donald Trump’s behalf and at his direction.  Hopefully by the end of this reality series they will all be fitted with orange jumpsuits.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
PhD Quiet
15  igknorantzrulz    6 years ago

LOCK HER UP

LOCK HIM UP

LOCK EM ALL THE FUCK UP

.

Disgusting Family, the Whole lott,(Barron gets a pass)

.

They SO DESERVE IT

how many TRULY GREAT Americans, lost life and limb to Defend and form this once Great country...

so this mentally deficient non efficient piece of SHIT can't,

though as hard as he might try, spit in everyones damn eye while attempting to wipe his fat ass width our Constitution he would use asz TP, 

cAusz DT attempts everyday to alarm

clock ted   inn

record time, while taped like a duct tape

worm, to an old washed up salty

daffy duct taped taffy who Bugs elementary school porno playmate Bunnys in cooler times as it gets HOT.

.

hopin he self combusts

 
 

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