The Fall Of The House Of Trump: The End Is Near
Cults or criminal enterprises last only as long as the leader is viewed as either omnipotent or can maintain power through either coercion or charisma. Whether you are a supporter of Don Donald or are an outsider wondering when this national nightmare is going to end, the answer is becoming clearer every day. The criminal enterprise/cult that is Trump world is crumbling under his very weighty feet. What is amazing is actually how long it has taken for those in the Trump organization to begin the process of flipping {turning state's evidence} against their leader.
It is almost funny, if not pathetic to watch the one way loyalty that Trump has exhibited. Michael Cohen {the inside fixer} has been thrown under the Trump bus. Paul Manafort has been trampled and has, not only taken a bullet for the glorious leader, but shot both of them in the foot when caught slipping special counsel information back to the Trump team. Michael Flynn has accepted a plea deal but seems to want to walk a tightrope with both the administration and Mueller's office on each end. That will not end up well. Now the Trump CFO is a cooperating witness with the financial maneuvers relating to bribes, money laundering, tax evasion, and potential involvement with organized crime, certainly coming to the fore. Even the Maria Butina guilty plea today places both the NRA and the Trump administration under greater scrutiny. The plea deal with Mr. Pecker opens another level of investigation and corroboration of criminal activity, with corroboration that the President was there in a critical meeting along with Pecker and Cohen. Then today we found out that the justice department is now investigating the Presidential Inaugural Team for mismanagement and possible bribery in what might become a pay to play scheme.
Add to this outrageous list, the first sign of cracks in the Republican wall of silence with senators like Marco Rubio, John Cornyn and John Thune appearing to align themselves on the side of the rule of law, rather than allegiance to Trump. All of the signs of the political apocalypse that will surely come are aligning themselves. The Trump presidency appears doomed.
It is no longer outside the realm of probability that there are already sealed indictments against the President and his family. The corroborating tapes are there. The ducks are being placed in order. At least 16 members of the Trump administration have been demonstrated to have had significant contact with the Russians
It is past the point that even the most loyal supporters of President Trump can't argue that nothing has directly implicated the President. The number of witnesses and the testimony and paper trails of those witnesses have built up to the level of an unshakable circumstantial case {which, by the way, is the way most criminal cases are determined}. Even the President is now concerned that he will be impeached. One has to wonder if the price of his probable resignation will be a deal that gives him immunity from prosecution.
All most of us can do is watch the flailing of a wounded duck waiting to die. Articles of impeachment will come down the road. As more and more information is made public, voter patience with this president will continue to erode. Even the Republican senate will turn in a classic cya move. The day will come that the Republican leadership of the Senate will come into the Oval Office and advise Trump that he must either resign or the Republican Senate will vote for impeachment. Just like Richard Nixon, the end is nigh. We will all soon wake up and realize that the last two years have been a bad dream. It will get better.
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There is now both circumstantial and physical evidence and a huge number of potential witnesses. It's time to say goodbye to our criminal president.
Dream and I'll dream with you.
Sometimes dreams are realized Vicster.
There is a difference between dreams and facts. Dreams are wishes but facts lay the foundation for what will be. You can keep dreaming, I'll stay with the facts.
You expect to remove a US President (albeit one you hate) with that trivia?
Care to predict when the US Senate will convict?
As soon as they realize that the idiot in the White House is more a threat to their re-election than supporting him would be. It will be exactly what happened with Nixon. These Senators have as little loyalty to Trump as Trump has for them. When we see Trump's approval ratings sink below 38, they'll happily vote to impeach.
Depends on how many Quislings infest the senate.
Fortunately, progressive leftist libs are in the minority in the Senate.
Everybody in America is not quite of the same mindset as you. Nixon was NOT impeached....he resigned amid REAL charges. I think Republican Senators will do just as democratic Senators did when Bill Clinton was impeached for perjury & obstruction, neither of which had anything to do with "Whitewater"
Nixon resigned because he KNEW the impeachment and indictments were going to buty him. He cut a deal to resign.
Just as Trump is going to do against his REAL crimes. He'll have to just at a minimum to keep his sperm catchers from going to prison.
He can pardon them at the Federal level, he has no ability to pardon them or himself in the NYS investigation. That will be part of his deal.
Now you got it
Just as Trump is going to do against his REAL crimes.
No, those days are gone. Bill Clinton didn't resign when he faced charges, his "wife" would never resign if charged, nor would Trump. We are living in a different age.
He can pardon them at the Federal level, he has no ability to pardon them or himself in the NYS investigation.
Beware of "double jeopardy"
Other than that comment smelling like last night's dinner mixed with whatever else was ingested, are you psychic or do you have a fact you forgot to add?
Different age? The only different age is that we are older now and the same circumstances have arrived to the same laws that applied in 1970's
That's even funnier! What double jeapordy? Different crimes of different statutes....ithe Fed crimes don't even cross over to the state crimes.
Is this what "Brushing up on the law" looks like?
You know I'm pointing and laughing loudly.
I didn't think you'd get it.
Get it? Oh, I got it alright. Your comments have run out of snappy answers that can not only not be backed up, they are devoid of any legal knowledge.
Everything in your comments have been debunked and getting more desperate as the debate continues.
So, let's hear how "double jeopardy" plays in to this...if you can.
What next? Are we still "brushing up on the law"?
Let's try not to make it personal
Really? You took your shot on another seed and NOW you don't want to make it personal.
Your comments are backed in to a corner. Now trying to find a way out.
Or is it because you can't get the last word in and lock the seed?
Which in case you didn't know tptb have also noticed that little stunt.
Now, what about the fed investigation vs. The NYS investigation makes you think there's double jeopardy? "Lawmen" like to learn....
Yes as soon as Democrats take control of the house they need to focus on President Trumps impeachment. That is what the people elected them to do.
To a large extent, that is EXACTLY what the people elected them to do. Glad we can finally agree on something.
Only in the twisted dreams of progressive leftist liberal Democrats.
Are you oblivious to the six, soon to be seven, investigations of every aspect of the President's life? The history of Trump being in legal jeopardy goes back 40 years. They have been both civil and criminal. Money has bought his way out of them. It won't work that way with the investigations now. Trump will rue the day he became President. He won't be able to buy his way out of this with all the scrutiny he is under.
Talk to me when he is found guilty in a court of law of any of his alleged accusations while in office.
That's exactly what most of them are still arguing. They will have to adjust their argument fairly soon though...
This man did not just wake up one day as president, he planed, worked, spent a great deal of time, effort and money to get the job. He is now actually the most powerful human on the planet, he now has more power and assets at his convenience and command than ever before in his life between his personal assets and the power of his position.
I dont think that power is going to easily be taken way from this man. To the contrary,
I look for trump to pull out ALL the stops before giving up the power he sought and worked for so hard and long. I've said it before and I'll say it again, I honestly believe this person would seriously consider WWIII before being thrown out of office if he had the choice.
WE hired the pied piper at his price, reneging on our deal will not go down well with this man.
Good Luck America,
"reneging on our deal will not go down well with this man." ? ?
Number one: We did not make a deal.
Number Two: He is not a man---he is a coward.
Number Three: The Trump remains the same...A liar, cheat and a fraud. He may even be a traitor in varying degrees.
There is nothing to renege on. The reneging was committed when he slid down that escalator behind his third wife.
Tell trump, I doubt he'll see it that way.
This man is gonna play the victim card in his head we the people are soon to be his enemy.
Steve, you are far too agreeable to a Trump presidency.
Half the time you are praising his stubbornness or his cleverness or his determination. Give us a break.
He is a plague on this nation. That is all he is.
Doesn't matter. Gotti played his cards too. Except Gotti dealt himself a crap hand. Mueller was the prosecutor.
What you see as "Praise" I see as reality.
Give us a break.
Sorry I don't ignore reality for anyone.
He is a plague on this nation. That is all he is.
He is an elected official of the usa. Not that I like it. But I do accept it and deal with it.
Realty isn't easy or all pretty, but it is real.
Trumps is what he is, a mix of bad and good, we all are. We call ourselves humans.
I call us the most destructive species on the planet.
Each one uniquely flawed. Trump certainly is no exception although I'm sure he would disagree.
Gotti also wasn't the president of the united states at the time. Many people with lots of power do not want this man gone. I doubt they are all disappointed easily.
"people with lots of power." ? ?
Putin? Mohamad bin Salman? Those guys?
laugh out friggen loud
The Republicans maintained a Senate majority following the 2018 elections
laugh out friggen loud
agreed
More like slithered down
"You knew I was a snake before you took me in."
President Donald J Trump
He was way cooler when he was a Democrat.
I find what Steve says a lot more reasonable than much of what the hard core progressive liberals on NT spout. Not all of us are cut out to be hard core haters of other people who disagree with others points of view. Steve and I may not always agree with each other, but I have always found him to be polite and reasonable as well as respectful of other's views. There are a fair amount that cannot make that claim.
Thanks for the kind words.
I do try. I think we are a better nation when we stay realistic and cooperate to solve our problems.
So, being nasty doesn't really help anyone. Me included.
Thanks again.
Even cooler when he wasn't a public official at all.
More like oozed down.
The strange thing about the Trumps, all of them, is the fact that the family never had any pets or real friends. Everyone that ever had the fortune or misfortune to arrive within 'The Trump Sphere' was either a useful commodity or a throwaway with an expiration date of convenience.
Always wondered why The Trump was never attacked by one of the many thousands he and his businesses bankrupted, humiliated, destroyed and inflicted so much misery.
Still ZERO Obama campaign or administration officials ever indicted for crimes...
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I love all this we finally got him now.....
psst: there are some investigations going on and just starting up that just might throw all this T-rump crap right into the legal toilet....
Stay tuned, from what I hear, we are about to take a sharp turn.....
All is not well (legally) in the Mueller camp......
But go ahead, have your pre-celebratory victory party...... Go right on ahead..... Enjoy yourselves..... Really REALLY Enjoy yourselves...... I want you guys to have as much fun as possible.....
Cause the fat lady is being lead away, she showed up to the opera too soon, wasn't her turn yet....
If you're talking about the grumbling of coercion and pressure, I don't see it being a show stopper.
Corsi started playing that tune when Mueller was getting on him. I "think without proof" that Corsi has elevated his own importance in the investigation as is trying to make hay for another conspiracy book.
As soon as he spouted that, the bandwagon started in hopes of an avenue of escape.
No that by itself isn't, it from another source I've been asked not to reveal....
Old friend telling tales out of school kinda thing......
Problem is, too many are balking about the breadth of intention to investigate and it's become a problem for everyone if it's allowed to continue to get even broader. Fears are rising that it just might jump up and bite someone they really don't want to bite....
What is it now over 130+ different investigations, going after his inauguration donors, there are some investigative reporters who are being drawn into the investigation and being threatened by Mueller & company.... Very far reaching this investigation has become and when the media investigators get worried about getting hit with investigations.....
That's never a good sign.....
It's showing all the signs of an actual witch hunt, not the witch hunt T-rump is complaining about, a witch hunt that will take down some very important people far far outside the original mandate....
And that scares them...... The kind of people you don't want scared.
First things first, gotta tell you I enjoy reading your comments. You are an excellent and articulate poster.
I understand confidentiality but without something solid and fairly public I find myself a skeptic.
I don't really think Mueller cares how this falls as long as it's factual. And I don't think he's taking guidance from any party worried about their own skeletons.
Completely understand, and agree. Up till the end of the last election I have been called in to consult on elections.... I was trained by Dick Wirthlin to do such and I'm very good at it.... from there with Dick as my "hook" I was hired into the WH staff, my proximity to Dick brought me into almost daily contact with some very powerful people and I rose rapidly on the staff. I was fired during the latter half of Geroge the Firsts presidency during his second campaign cause I predicted if he didn't start fighting Clinton's attacks he was going to lose. that didn't sit well with some of his other more senior advisors so I was "separated" from the campaign and WH... Easy come, easy go, so they say....
I have a lot of knowledge and experience with how inside the beltway works and not much has changed over the years....
I'm sure he doesn't and believes he has a mandate. not altogether sure he doesn't. but like anything else from inside the beltway, his mandate extends to the point he pisses off someone even more powerful than he is... Then his mandate will end.... I don't give a damn whether T-rump stays in office or not, he's a boorish imbecile. But he is also very intelligent and knows how to push the buttons..... this is not his first ride around the merry-go-round and he has a knack for turning others outrage against them........
Turning the mountain of trash campaign into the mountain of hate campaign was pure genius......
What is left to see is what he does with it.... But understand one thing, DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE HIM! He is a master manipulator, been doing it his whole life.... Much better at it than Hillary ever thought of being....
"master manipulator, been doing it his whole life.... Much better at it than Hillary ever thought of being...."
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Who in the US of A
whole lot of Ignorance,
besides those who will benefit via this vast ignorance,
truly believes that to be "The Qualification",
that might get one elected to the highest office of this land....?
certainly not Fucken me, thee, or thy
that in order to be elected, it is essential to Lie
to some, but when the sum of your lies, produces the divide, that is required to multiply division, the some/sum is not justified,
except to those who lied, to be the accepted pol, dancing round the truth, while others lap around the dance, that they provide.
For the record,
that I never made a recording of,
cause I tape only when drinking
Scotch, and my hard driven
hardly road
hog, avoids the pan headed pot holes, with things cemented into my feeble mind due
to some asses fault, asz to why I might
put away wet, another set, of candid truths, as they seem aloof, but i'm just a fucken goof
off to uneducated a few,
who could of
knew...
NM, when you stick to retelling and commenting on history you are very good as you have studied the subject for a longtime.
When you drift off into nonsense like the above, yikes.
oh
Until the mid term election, I will admit there was some unsurety about how the course of Trump's presidency would go. Although his polls had always been uniformly bad, both before and after he took office, he did after all win the election and approval polls are not necessarily votes.
But the result of the midterms show us how trump will end up, and it is on the garbage heap of history. Most justifiably by the way.
Trump makes himself the focus of any national election nowadays, and he was the focus of this one too. The national popular vote margin, for the Democrats, in the mid term election was the largest in history.
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Democrats won the House with the largest midterms margin of all time ...
LOL
An idiot savant ?
Well, kinda.
Smart enough to take over the country, not wise enough to run it without causing major turmoil.
So yeah, maybe.
There is a very logical school of thought that Trump never thought he could win. He underestimated the gullibility of some of the American people, and won a flukish election.
I know of no evidence that Trump is noticeably intelligent, he is a terrible speaker, cannot function in an unscripted interview, and regularly proves he has very little knowledge of subjects he is supposed to know as president of the United States.
He's smart because voters were stupid and voted for him? I don't think so.
Well, thank you John, I do respect your capabilities also....
That being said...... One CAN be an imbecile and still be a pretty smart feller...... Takes practice but imbecility has nothing to do with intelligence...
And I'm more than happy to acknowledge that He (T-rump) has had a lot of practice....
Since I was 18 years old I have been wanting a President like Trump. Yup he is not establishment and pisses off everyone. Republican base will accept him no matter what but he appeals to more than that IMO.
Here comes the "yes, but"
Yes, he has but....(told ya) when he is plopped in that chair, he gives up the ghost. It's happened a few times with him that he's had to admit to his shakey stuff. His divorce with Marla was a beating he had to take...besides repeating he pleads the 5th over and over.
Wow, No way. I would never want a person like this in control of anything. IMO: This man really doesn't care about anyone but himself. He is not doing any of this for the country, you or I. He is dong all of this because he is a deeply flawed individual who is out to prove to himself he is GREAT.
Great people do not need to prove it to anyone especially themselves.
So as you can see I do not agree with you at all.
I think America actually hired a pied piper at his price. And now we pay.
I did not say president trump is intelligent, In fact I don't think I ever have said that.
I do think he was smart enough to take over the republican party and then use that to take over the American government. That is a reality. Whether he was or is slightly more smart that his followers, time will tell.
Fool me once, I blame you, Fool me twice, I'm ta blame. Time will tell.
LOL.
we are about to take a sharp turn, I believe you are correct , But I don't think its going to leave us laughing, I do NOT look for trump to go down or leave office without further damage. No way. Not unless he wants out himself. Even then it will depend on WHY he wants out.
We hired the pied piper, at his price. I do not look for this to end real pleasantly.
and there is plenty of blame for this mess to go around truth be all known.
Seems to me that the blame resides pretty much on one side of the issue.
Oh please. His support has always been a minority of Americans. He is not a pied piper to most Americans, he's an asshole. Stop acting like the deplorables are something to be impressed with.
Yeah, it won't end pleasantly, that is true. But it will end with Trump in disgrace.
While I agree, I also don't think it all does.
Poor old hillary was not the best candidate. She had a whole lot of baggage, real or imaginary, she did not campaign in the right places enough she wasn't addressing the change many voters were demanding and she was literally falling down on the campaign trail.
yet she was the anointed one.
Personally when she was nominated I switched parties, in part trying to keep trump from getting their moniaton, when he did get the republican nomination, I dropped both parties because I didn't really want either of their candidates to win.
So, in my mind both parties share some blame. Of course the republican party much more, Hell they didn't even protector their own party from this megalomaniac.
And here we are.
Baggage? AMTRAK had a car specially built to carry her baggage!
Looks like O trump better be placing his order as well. ALL ABOARD !
Nah. They take everything but your wedding ring and your watch and give you a blue uniform where he's going.
Hopefully they will let him go to the canteen and get some lubriderm. I hear that lessens the pain the first time.
By the way...another prison story...
I was watching the canteen one day and an old prisoner brought his bag for me to inspect.
I noticed he had a ton of oatmeal and crunchy peanut butter. I complimented him on keeping a high protein diet.
He said " this isn't for my fucking diet. If my bunkie whips out his shank and wants to fuck me I want it to feel like fucking sandpaper"
True story.
The Fall Of The House Of Trump: The End Is Near
Sadly not quite near enough, though I do believe that the light at the end of the tunnel is most likely a freight train bearing down on Mr. Trump.
What a naughty boy He seems to be.
What started as a investigation into supposed collusion between Trump and Russia to fix an election looks like it will end with a report, some process crimes convictions that have nothing to do with a conspiracy with Russia and a questionable campaign finance violation. (When the former head of the FEC says it's not a crime, hard to believe that Trump KNEW it was a crime).
The report will undoubtedly be a nice narrative, (no pesky cross investigation of admitted liar witnesses to mess things up), but Trump is not getting removed from office for "failing to file a document about sex" with the Clinton precedent already out there.
The way this will end will be either the impeachment or resignation of Donald Trump. To think that a President could have six going on seven {the New York AG} investigations going on at the same time demonstrates that there is sufficient probative doubt about the legitimacy of the current President. That each of these current investigations is looking at different but related potential wrongdoing is nothing short of numbing. We aren't even talking about investigations into violations of the emoluments clause or possible tax evasion charges yet. Crime bosses have spent their lives behind bars for less.
You really mean probative value...... Don't you...
But that raises the question....
Of value to whom?
Legitimacy?
Didn't he win the electoral college voting? like the constitution requires? Of Course he did....
so the question of legitimacy is solely a one sided political conclusion that isn't backed up by any fact....
Which means making the claim is a logically partisan hackery one....
He was lawfully elected, he is the legitimate President, until such time he is either voted out of office, impeached and convicted or dead....
And from what I'm seeing, we ain't there yet.....
But I know living wishes and dreams is a staple of the politically challenged...
No, but a pesky little recording in Pecker's office with Trump calling the shots will mess things up.
The Special Counsel investigators duty was to look into Russian interference in the 2016 Presidential election.
Trumps constant " No Collusion, No Collusion! " refrain is just his way of throwing shade on Muller's work and blowing smoke up the arse of the minority of Americans who still back him. Of course it helps him when they go out of their way to voluntary bend over and give him a clear shot.
Muller is dully and legally pursuing his mandate.
It's not Muller's fault that the Trump administration is turning out to be as full of deceitful, corrupt criminals as the Nixon and Regan administrations were.
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Yep whether trump is proven to be involved in everything or anything he certainly kept some shady company. I look at who benefited. Smoking or not, because where there's smoke usually there's also usually fire.
u spelled smocking
wrong
LOL No.. I just didn't spelled it it's presidencial form.
LOL
The Fall Of The House Of Trump: The End Is Near
My God, what a sad state liberalism is. The loony left have been predicting this since the day he came down the escalator in 2015.
What you really hate is you still have a President Trump, and will until January 2025.