Here are 11 kinds of Bible verses Christians love to ignore

These are not the only ones that evangelicals and others avoid

I find it interesting that you chose to use appear to be from the New American Standard Bible. Since this publication is heavily paraphrased, most traditional Christians consider it worthless and a waste of time. Give me the original English King James version any day. Ironically, the King James version was translated from the original Greek texts. In any translation, things are always lost. The verses you are quoting are slanted as can be away from their original meaning and can mean whatever somebody wants them to...

Sorry bud but the KJV is what we use, nice try

Most Christians tend to ignore the awkward parts of the Bible.

Quite the understatement.

Not to mention they ignore the logical contradictions to biblical claims and stories.

all the rules apply to those that don't show up for the weekly club meetings and don't pay the dues

Most Christians tend to ignore the awkward parts of the Bible.

It's required. If they don't ignore them it will lead to their inevitable loss of faith. Their faith is like Schrodinger's cat and the lid of the box are all the contradictions in the bible. If they ignore the box lid and leave it alone, they can assume their faith is alive and well, but if they lift the lid their faith dies and they don't know if it was dead before or if they killed it by lifting the lid...

I agree.   IMO, except for the most die-hard believers (and those who are not equipped to engage in serious analysis), studying the Bible leads to irreligion.

OMG - you mean that people will cherry-pick the pieces they want to talk about or follow and ignore the parts they don't like or find too inconvenient?  Say it's not so!!!!

Yep, Man is a flawed creature.

One of the things that bothers me most is the refusal to recognize that the Bible (both Old and New Testaments) does not condemn slavery - the owning of another human being as property .   The practice was replete during biblical times so there is no chance that it was ' overlooked '.   Indeed, slavery is mentioned in the Bible.   In the NT, and then heavily in the OT.   And not only did God - the arbiter of objective morality - NOT condemn slavery as immoral , He actually made rules for properly enslavement.

I have observed people do somersaults denying this and/or trying to equivocate on the meaning of the word 'slave'.    It is sad IMO.

Example passage:

Exodus 21:20-21   New International Version (NIV) ²⁰  “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result,   ²¹  but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.

I think the notion that any of these passages are ignored is false and is a kind of straw man employed to characterize all believers as hypocrites at best, morons at worst. (I'll be fair/generous and acknowledge that the article says "some" and "most" ignore these passages. Technically, that's not "all" I guess.)

The Bible requires study and analysis, even debate.  Passages do not always have the meaning or significance that self-professed critics - or fundamentalists, for that matter - think they do.

Passages do not always have the meaning or significance that self-professed critics - or fundamentalists, for that matter - think they do.

Trouble is, the most learned in the Bible (and other 'holy' books) are not in agreement.   Without a clear source of truth everyone can claim that their interpretation is the true one.   

Always back to the same old thing TiG. LOL    Interpertation ain't easily understood dontcha know cuz you ain't studied enough. pfffft! 

Question: WHAT is the correct way of saying:  Six and Seven ARE eleven  --   or Six and Seven IS eleven? 

Thing is, I have lived my life surrounded by friends and family who are Catholic and Protestant (a minority are Jewish, a few Muslims and then an atheist every now and then).   So based on quite a few decades as an observant adult I can state quite confidently (based on my sample space of friends and family) that religious people typically ignore or are entirely unaware of much of the Bible.   And it is not that they (ordinary religious people) purposely cherry-pick.   The cherry-picking was done by their religious organizations and passed onto the faithful via Sunday school and church services.

I just have to shrug when I see some people argue that God (who ostensibly created homosexual people) wants homosexuals to refrain from following their nature (again, a nature ostensibly given to them by an omnipotent, omniscient, perfect, loving God).    Then, we have those who ignore the fact that the OT has God (Yahweh) harshly condemning homosexual acts (between men only) with a penalty of death.   Pretty much God stating clear disapproval.   But some argue that Jesus only considered homosexuality a sin and loved all sinners .... so ... Jesus is okay with gay.    But then they will not put this together and realize that Jesus IS Yahweh.   Presumably because that would illustrate that either an omniscient and perfect God 'changed His mind' (a contradiction) or that Yahweh and Jesus disagree (a contradiction of another sort).

But I guess some just dismiss this as a 'straw man' (or another excuse) and avoid the question entirely.        That IMO is religious indoctrination at play suppressing critical thinking.

Well I think it should also be remembered that the Bible is a collection of stories that while inspired by God are written by men. And there are several stories in the Bible that talk about the same instance but are coming from different people so they see or remember things differently.

If you're looking for perfection you won't find it here on earth,  you will need to wait to see what the afterlife brings.

Well I think it should also be remembered that the Bible is a collection of stories that while inspired by God are written by men.

Or it is a collection of stories conceived by and written by men pretending to speak for the grandest possible entity.

But I guess some just dismiss this as a 'straw man' (or another excuse) and avoid the question entirely.       That IMO is religious indoctrination at play suppressing critical thinking.

That is exactly what it is and it's very hard to trust people who try to convince they are being logical or reasonable at all. 

Without a clear source of truth everyone can claim that their interpretation is the true one.

So what? That's true of the New York Times, too. You going to tell people to stop reading that, too? You want everything handed to you for free? Stop whining and try opening your mind and heart instead. Just a suggestion.

Then, we have those who ignore the fact that the OT has God (Yahweh) harshly condemning homosexual acts (between men only) with a penalty of death.

Ignoring it? I doubt that. Try to find out the "why" behind it. Then keep studying and try to figure out what it is that God really wants from people.

But I guess some just dismiss this as a 'straw man'

It is. When you try to present an argument that's false and then attack it, as was done here, that's exactly what you have: a straw man.

Then keep studying and try to figure out what it is that God really wants from people.

How about starting with something more basic - why worry about the opinion of a god that is unlikely to exist?

Are we really here to talk about whether or not God exists? I thought we didn't do that around here.

If you're going to proselytize people by telling them to study what god wants from people, it seems to me to be pretty important to establish that god actually exists, yes?  Else we might as well be studying what Zeus wants from us - one is as valid as the other.

That which does not exist can't want anything.

If you're going to proselytize

I'm not the one saying God does, doesn't, or is "unlikely to exist." You are.

All I did was criticize the content of the seed and discuss the importance of studying before forming an opinion. Others want to come in here and say God doesn't exist or the Bible is mythology. Those are the people who are proselytizing.

You said we should find out what god wants from us.  If he wants, he exists.  If he doesn't exist, he can't want.

You advise us to study the Bible with the assumption that we'll find out from it "what God really wants."  Telling folks to consult your religious texts for truth is prosyletizing. 

Telling folks to consult your religious texts

I didn't say that. The topic of this seed is the meaning of certain passages in scripture, so I'm not the one suggesting you consult the texts for any reason. The seeder is.

I said that if you are going to consult them and seek meaning in them, then that process requires careful study, analysis, and debate, as opposed to just reading a translation and assuming you know what it means.

So what? That's true of the New York Times, too. You going to tell people to stop reading that, too? 

If you had understood what I wrote you would know that I would encourage everyone to take the New York Times as the product of human beings - many with agendas.   That would mean not accepting everything written in the New York Times as truth.

Breaking it down:

• Just because ancient men wrote something down does not make it true.
• Just because an author was published in the New York Times does not make it true.

You did not understand what I wrote.   

Ignoring it? I doubt that. Try to find out the "why" behind it. Then keep studying and try to figure out what it is that God really wants from people.

Are you actually claiming that all theologians and biblical scholars agree?    

When you try to present a ...

Projection (at a Pee Wee Herman level even).  Do better.

Try to find out the "why" behind it. Then keep studying and try to figure out what it is that God really wants from people.

I don't see an "if" there.

All I did was criticize the content of the seed and discuss the importance of studying before forming an opinion. Others want to come in here and say God doesn't exist or the Bible is mythology. Those are the people who are proselytizing.

I think most everyone agrees that one should be knowledgeable about something before forming an opinion.   Merely stating an obvious platitude is not an argument.    An argument involves facts and reason.    So what is your critical argument regarding this seed?

Here is what you offered @7:

Tacos! @7 - I think the notion that any of these passages are ignored is false and is a kind of straw man employed to characterize all believers as hypocrites at best, morons at worst. (I'll be fair/generous and acknowledge that the article says "some" and "most" ignore these passages. Technically, that's not "all" I guess.) The Bible requires study and analysis, even debate.  Passages do not always have the meaning or significance that self-professed critics - or fundamentalists, for that matter - think they do.

• You merely claim that believers do not ignore passages.    Anyone can make a claim
• You declare (sans justification) any claim of ignoring passages a 'straw man' and presume general intent of casting believers as hypocrites / morons.
• You offer the obvious platitude that the Bible requires study, analysis and debate.   Agreed.  Obviously.
• You then note that, in effect, people do indeed interpret the Bible incorrectly and inconsistently.   Again, obviously.

So your point is that people do misinterpret the Bible (obvious to most everyone) and that understanding the Bible is complicated (demonstrably given thousands of years of study and we still do not have the clear truth).   I suspect most people agree with these obvious points.   I certainly do.

Got anything of significance to offer?   Something that is insightful?

Are you actually claiming that all theologians and biblical scholars agree?

I didn't come close to saying anything about theologians and biblical scholars agreeing on anything.

Projection (at a Pee Wee Herman level even).  Do better.

This is an empty accusation offered with no evidence or explanation followed by a personal attack. I think maybe you need to do better.

I didn't come close to saying anything about theologians and biblical scholars agreeing on anything.

Then you agree that after thousands of years of studying the Bible even our 'experts' do not see eye-to-eye.

Tacos @7 - The Bible requires study and analysis, even debate.  Passages do not always have the meaning or significance that self-professed critics - or fundamentalists, for that matter - think they do.

So how long do you propose people study and analyze the Bible before we reach truth?    10,000 years?

So how long do you propose people study and analyze the Bible before we reach truth?    10,000 years?

seems quite odd that the "grandest entity possible" would try to confuse/perplex it's own creations and give them a riddle that takes 10,000 years to figure out which is supposed to be a "clear message". Normally when a "clear message" is written - it is communicated to large group(s) of humans quite quickly and efficiently. 

So many Christians refuse to accept that they are interpreting the bible - even though they clearly are, or else they'd all be in agreement.  Debate offends literalists, because they're already convinced they know exactly what it means.  I wonder if literalists go to bible study and, if so, what it would be like?

if this ever became a xtian nation, the religious melee would start the next day

The Bible requires study and analysis, even debate.  Passages do not always have the meaning or significance that self-professed critics - or fundamentalists, for that matter - think they do

that part of the comment makes no sense. I'm told the Bible is communication from the grandest entity in existence and yet - this entity couldn't communicate it's message clearly enough so there would be no misinterpretation by humans nor any need for debates nor analysis etc ??

God never promised you a rose garden; i.e., life is not easy. Get over it and get to studying.

God never promised you a rose garden; i.e., life is not easy. Get over it and get to studying.

what an odd statement, wouldn't you have to really exist to make a promise ? unless maybe you are a fictional character in a story ? .... besides, this God entity never promised me anything personally... are you under the impression this God entity personally promised you something ???

still - you never answered the question - if this is God entity is the grandest entity possible and all powerful etc, and the Bible is God's word... then why can't the grandest entity possible communicate it's word clearly with no room for error nor misinterpretation ?

God is unlikely to have ever promised anything.  And most of us are fairly familiar with the mythology contained within the pages of the Bible.

then why can't the grandest entity possible communicate it's word clearly with no room for error nor misinterpretation ?

What makes you think he can't? What makes you think he hasn't? What makes you think he should? 

Who should be able to interpret the word? You? A child? An old man? A wise man? A fool? What will be the standard? What makes you think you know everything that is required for learning? 

What makes you think he can't?

the bible and it's many wonderful misinterpretations. what makes you think he can ?

What makes you think he hasn't?

the bible and it's many wonderful misinterpretations. what makes you think he has ?

What makes you think he should? 

if the God, being "grandest entity possible", has a message for humans - wouldn't you logically think it would be communicated clearly to those humans with no room for misinterpretation ? (i know i know, i'm asking "logically"... seems to be a foreign concept when it comes to religion sometimes...) i know many humans who effectively communicate and leave no room for misinterpretation and they aren't even the "grandest entity possible".

Who should be able to interpret the word? You? A child? An old man? A wise man? A fool?

everyone, since it's a message meant for humans, correct ? or do you think there are "special" humans that God wanted to communicate with while not wanting to bother with any other humans ?

What will be the standard?

well, since it's a message for humans, i would think that humans would be the standard, but you seem to think otherwise based upon the amount of questions you are asking. So you tell me - what will be the standard ?

What makes you think you know everything that is required for learning?

why don't you tell everyone what is required for learning - we'll start from there. (i can't wait for this)

still - you never answered the question - if this is God entity is the grandest entity possible and all powerful etc, and the Bible is God's word... then why can't the grandest entity possible communicate it's word clearly with no room for error nor misinterpretation ? (we know that obviously God couldn't do this since the bible is misinterpreted quite often in many ways)

Believe what you like. Study or don't. I'm not here to change your mind about it.

cool. then keep it in the home or on church property, where it belongs.

Believe what you like.

i'm not convinced to believe nor disbelieve, but thanks.

Study or don't. I'm not here to change your mind about it

well, thanks for the attempt at answering the question(s)

Sometimes even when you think you didn't get an answer, it turns out maybe you did. Just not the one you were expecting.

everyone, since it's a message meant for humans, correct ? or do you think there are "special" humans that God wanted to communicate with while not wanting to bother with any other humans ?

Critical point.

How convenient that the Bible's true message only be understandable by the elite in the religious order.

Catholic vs. Protestant blood battles of the 15th-17th centuries was predicated on this very notion.   The Catholic church was against everyday folks having access to the Bible.   People were murdered (burned alive) for possessing a Bible, selling Bibles, conducting non-mass religious services.    The reason, clearly, was that the Catholic church wanted to control the message and hold absolute power over the people.    And it worked well for a very long time.

Sometimes even when you think you didn't get an answer, it turns out maybe you did. Just not the one you were expecting.

wow, what an interesting fortune cookie comment - too bad it has absolutely nothing to do with our conversation and your failed attempts at answering questions about that unproven mystical entity. Maybe you should study the bible better and a bit more to get the answers to my questions

Catholic vs. Protestant blood battles of the 15th-17th centuries was predicated on this very notion.   The Catholic church was against everyday folks having access to the Bible.   People were murdered (burned alive) for possessing a Bible, selling Bibles, conducting non-mass religious services.    The reason, clearly, was that the Catholic church wanted to control the message and hold absolute power over the people.    And it worked well for a very long time

the concept is still in play today... why else keep the hierarchy ? only the religious leaders can know what their God wants - it's why you must go to them, it's why they are more special than anyone else etc... It's all about control

It's all about control

Without a doubt.

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And you are right in the middle of it

Here's one you missed that will help you, maybe

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