"WE GOT HIM" ! THANK GOD !
Today we have learned that Roger Stone has been arrested based on a warrant placed by Mr. Special Council Mueller.
This is not about the fact that Mr. Stone broke the law as we know it , but how our government went about the arrest. It was like Mr. Stone himself orchestrated the Twin Towers take down.
He is SIMPLY accused of witness tampering, obstruction and false statements about his interactions related to WikiLeaks' release.
He didn't "Murder" anyone, He didn't "Traffic" any one, He wasn't "dealing in Drugs", he didn't become a "Benedict Arnold" by giving secrets away to the enemy, and he sure didn't do the "Terrorist Attack" thingy.
But...……… this one "DESERVED" a military style take over of an American citizens home where military Guns were need along with Bullet Proof vests and armored vans. The American Citizen NEEDED to be Raped, the Citizens Family NEEDED to be raped, the Citizens Company NEEDED to be raped, and the Citizens Life in general NEEDED to be raped …. period ?
Now as to the Witness Tampering part, Prosecutors "Tamper" with the "witness" for gain all the time. They will "Offer and TREATEN" until they get what they want. I guess that's okay, but if someone else does it.....your FUCKED !
THE MOST LUDICROUS TAKE DOWN I HAVE EVER SEEN !
Was Mr. Stone prone to VIOLENT MURDEROUS OUTBURST we don't know about ?
"YOU"...…..COULD BE NEXT !
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T he indictment does not charge Stone with conspiring with WikiLeaks, the anti-secrecy website that published the emails, or with the Russian officers Mueller says hacked them. I nstead, it accuses him of witness tampering, obstruction and false statements about his interactions related to WikiLeaks' release. Some of those false statements were made to the House intelligence committee, according to the indictment.
CNN aired video of the raid at Stone's Fort Lauderdale home, showing F BI agents in body armor using large weapons and night-vision equipment, running up to the home and banging repeatedly on the door.
"FBI open the door!" one shouts. "FBI, warrant!" Stone could then be seen in the doorway in his sleepwear before he was led away. He is expected to appear in court later Friday.
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APPARENTLY......Some False Statements, some Tampering here and there, and "Words", are worse than ANYTHING else you could ever think of someone doing to a body !
Where were the "Smoke Grenades" ? They're just cool.
Ah yes, coming from the supposed "law and order" party, what's a few "white lies" about conspiring with an enemy foreign government bent on the destruction of western Democracy. Just a wee bit of witness tampering, and "words", that can't be so bad, can it? Sure, it's "words" that are used to conspire and possibly commit treason, but it's not like they shot anyone in the face on 5th avenue... /s
False statements and witness tampering directly undermine the rule of law, they are an attempt to avoid punishment for other crimes and that is exactly what is going on here. Roger Stone is a lying weasel who has lied to the American people, to investigators, to congress, apparently the only ones he hasn't lied to were Julian Assange and Vladimir Putin. Just because he had some warped vision of America he was pursuing making his white nationalist dream come true using wikileaks and Russia to accomplish his goals doesn't make it legal or in anyway excusable. He will try and fight but he's going to lose and be eating his words today as the panic sets in as he's seriously looking at jail time, then he'll sing like a bird telling investigators everything his partner in crime was up to and revealing how deep in Putin's pocket both Trump and Stone go.
You just "Pick" parts of statements you like huh !
Try actually reading/Comprehending ALL of what I wrote !
"This is not about the fact that Mr. Stone broke the law as we know it,"
The article was about this:
"It's how our government went about the arrest. It was like Mr. Stone himself orchestrated the Twin Towers take down."
Did you know those two statements are actually in the Part I wrote above ?
Ah, that's your big complaint then eh?
Admit it, if this had been John Podesta being arrested in the exact same fashion and being charged with lying to congress, witness tampering and obstruction of justice every single Trump defender on NT would be cheering and jumping up and down with joy and you know it. They certainly wouldn't be trying to deflect from the headline of what he was being charged with by focusing on how he was arrested. They certainly wouldn't be saying "Wow, that's pretty harsh, I mean, they could have just called him so they wouldn't have had to disturb his precious poodle...".
Roger Stone is a criminal, a white nationalist piece of trash who thinks he is better than everyone else which is why he thinks he can get away with breaking our laws with impunity. He deserved to be thrown facedown on the lawn, handcuffed and dragged away in front of all the cameras. He needs to be made an example of or more white collar criminals will think lying to congress and investigators is no big deal, that subverting or obstructing justice is okay if you're a straight white male Christian.
Duh !
"Admit it, if this had been John Podesta being arrested"
There's the Liberal "Sign" again...….What "IF" !
I had to use the "What If" because no Democrats or Clinton campaign staff are under indictment, pleading guilty or already been convicted of crimes. But you can't seriously say with a straight face that what I suggest wouldn't be the case. Every time there's even a hint of impropriety by a Democrat, conservative Republicans can't contain their elation, their joy, their posts simply drip with the childish "I told you so!" mentality. But present such hard evidence that conservative Republicans are pleading guilty and cooperating with investigators, ratting out their fellow Republican criminals, and all their sycophant followers do is deflect, distract and downplay in an attempt to subvert justice, to create a double standard when it comes to breaking the law.
No you didn't !
"because no Democrats or Clinton campaign staff are under indictment"
Nothing in the Blog notes anything like that.....nor does it say …… TRUMP, TRUMP, TRUMP !
Only comments from the Trump haters note Trump, Trump, Trump !
Your just Bloviating !
Neither does it mention Martha Stewart.
Do you know what the "Martha Stewart" conviction actually was about ?
Hint:
It wasn't about "Insider Trading", and the Blog is all about the same thing, needing the use of exaggerated enforcement this time.
What foreign government did Stone conspire with?
False statements and witness tampering directly undermine the rule of law, they are an attempt to avoid punishment for other crimes and that is exactly what is going on here.
If it dosen't apply to everyone, it should apply to nobody
Conspiring with Russian State Intelligence Services to hack The Democratic Party of America to illegally influence our American elections is not jaywalking...
You didn't read either....did you !
"The indictment does not charge Stone with conspiring with WikiLeaks, the anti-secrecy website that published the emails, or with the Russian officers Mueller says hacked them."
Knowing of crimes and not reporting them is criminal conspiracy...
The Russians hacking the DNC to aid Trump was a serious crime.
The indictment does not charge Stone with conspiring
"The Russians hacking the DNC to aid Trump was a serious crime."
"Link" to the aid part ?
The indictments are for lying to Congress about conspiring with Russia...
Yes it did...
Link please
But the Blog ISN'T about that !
A True Government OVER exaggeration !
I hear that Mr. Stones Wife packs a "Desert Eagle .50 cal." in her purse and has an AR15 in the Trunk of her car...….with a "Bump Stock" no less.....all the time !
This hate against our law enforcement by the right is startling.
"Special Councils" are witch hunters with "Unlimited Powers" !
Didn't you watch the "Bill Sex Scandal" Special Council events ?
No, I didn't watch the Bill sex scandal. I was young and not interested.
What's changed ?
Uh....I'm an adult now and able to understand the issues and make up my own mind.
So, your thoughts about an armed "Takedown" of an accused simple liar ?
The FBI was exercising multiple search warrants today, too...
All those agents are not even being paid. They all volunteered so they must have all been needed. There must have been assessed risk and the need for lots of agents to process everything seized in the searches is what I would surmise. Stone is famously always armed and brags publically about his big arsenal. But, congratulatins on your newest Godwin Award though...
What hate? To question tactics of federal law enforcements take down of Stone with large caliber weapon and night vision equipment rushing the house and beating on the door of an old man, now equals hate... ? Interesting, yet startling thought process for sure....
Stone was not going to run, the arrest was expected there was NO raid necessary .. if Stone had incriminating evidence, he has had plenty of time to get rid of it... the feds had nothing to gain by raiding the home under cover of darkness...
The government raiding a non violent citizens home as if said citizen was on the FBI most wanted list is disturbing... to say the least...
But.....MR. Stone is more daaangeeeeerous !
I wouldn't want to do what your brother does for sure !
I agree with him .. The Manafort and Cohen raids were bad enough, but at least those 2 could have been destroying evidence etc .. but Stone .. makes one take a look at the Mueller investigation in a different light ..
Still no Obama campaign or administration official ever indicted for any crimes...
Again.....Not the subject !
6 Trump campaign and administration officials are now criminally indicted!
For playing "Martha Stewart" and "Personal life indiscretions" !
BFD !
Still NO TRUMP in there !
Attempting to influence the outcome of a Presidential election is hardly just playing Martha Stewart. But then, you'd excuse Trump's cronies no matter what they did.
6 words:
"Democratic Party and Clinton campaign funded dossier" !
In "Simple" wording...… "Digging up dirt on a political opponent like usual" !
This time .....It's important. /s
Why don't you explain for us why you think it okay that Trump's early campaign managers, Roger Stone and Paul Manafort, illegally conspired with Vlad Putin's Russia State iIntellugence Services to illegally hack the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign to the benefit of Donald Trump? Also, how do you figure Trump did not know it? Oh, he did...
Holy shit...FBI must have thought it was El Chapo.
And the left whimper and whine about ICE.
oh man...….don't put that out there. CNN, NBC, ABC, MSNBC and BuzzFeed will run with it. Sheeeeesh Sunshine.
my bad
Apparently, he's a very dangerous man and would likely flee the country.
I wonder how the press knew to be there. Just got lucky, I guess, huh?
One article suggested that the arrest rather than having his attorney bring him in indicates that they were afraid he would destroy evidence. That still doesn't explain the level of force, and since he knew he was under investigation for a long time, it seems to me he would already have had plenty of time to destroy evidence. Why would he wait until the last minute?
Roger Stone is famously always armed and so are FBI agents serving arrest warrants and processing search warrants. It would have been negligent for those agents to go in unarmed and it takes a lot of agents to process a properly documented and executed search warrant.
No, The indictment was filed in federal court in Washington, D.C., on Thursday. So any media could have known it would happen quickly after that.
The snowflakery of the right as seen on this thread is amazing.
To paraphrase an old saying , if you can't argue the facts blame the prosecutor for waking you up too early in the morning.
Who cares if the FBI went in with "force"? I heard the show of force was because Stone had been posturing like he was a hardass or something. Oops, not any more.
I heard a former prosecutor describe it well on tv today. Stone will beat his chest and swear he will never betray Trump.... and then he will die in prison.
As I have always wondered....Can this guy really be as goofy as he looks and acts? He is charged with perjury and that was only a matter of time. He has had hundreds of interviews with the media - he has one tonight - with Tucker Carlson. When he lies, he does it like someone who dosen't know how. He never set up any working relationship with Assange. He only managed to use some strangers to garner some info from Wikileaks and then has to make childish threats to maintain their silence. It's no wonder the Trump campaign dumped him in 2015. Soon Mueller will have a new boss and maybe that will force Mueller to put his cards on the table.
Dershowitz called the Stone indictment “a typical Mueller indictment” that is “very heavy on stories” — while the indictment itself is filled with crimes “that occurred as a result of the investigation.”
“This is typical of Mueller” (above right). “He has found almost no crimes that occurred before he was appointed special counsel,” Dershowitz noted. “He was appointed to special counsel to uncover crimes that had already occurred. He has virtually failed in that respect in every regard.”
Dershowitz has badly embarrassed himself over the past 2 years.
Inside the indictment today is the statement that someone high up in the Trump campaign was ordered to press Stone about getting advance notice of wikileaks disclosures. It's not going to be that hard to connect the wikileaks releases to the Russian hacking.
The democratic congresswoman Jackie Speier said on tv this afternoon that she has knowledge that there will be further indictments based on what was released today.
Don Jr., you are on the clock.
How so?
Inside the indictment today is the statement that someone high up in the Trump campaign was ordered to press Stone about getting advance notice of wikileaks disclosures.
Supposedly Steve Bannon
It's not going to be that hard to connect the wikileaks releases to the Russian hacking.
And how does Trump or even Stone figure into that?
The democratic congresswoman Jackie Speier said on tv this afternoon that she has knowledge that there will be further indictments based on what was released today.
So? Like Dershowitz points out all of these crimes (mostly perjury) have occurred as a result of this investigation
Don Jr., you are on the clock.
Clock or dock? Don Jr has already testified.
I have a question for you though....Who arranged the Trump Tower meeting?
Today’s indictment is just one more evidence that the DOJ and FBI are criminal thug arms of our Marxist statist government that exist to control the American people in slavery to the State
they are the Pharisees to the State which is the God of the left and the Establishment Republicans
We need to cripple these thugs if ever the people are to regain liberty and our Republic
The left has come to hate Dershowitz because he is a left leaning libertarian who speaks out against the threat to our liberties from our near totalitarian statist government
A federal grand jury having seen the evidence issued Stone's warrants...
The right just loves Dershowitz because he defends Donald Trump...
Having read the indictment it re-enforces my argument. This is a criminal conspiracy by Mueller, the DOJ, and FBI deep state. We have yet to ever see any evidence that the DNC computer was ever hacked by anyone much less the Russians. Neither the FBI, DOJ, Mueller, nor any other agency of the government have ever even seen the DNC computer because they refused to allow it.
Nor does the indictment show any allegation that Stone had any involvement in the supposed hack. His indictment is for supposedly lying to a Congressional Committee
The left is applauding this because since Trump they have now embraced a love of the government engaged in Stalinist control
He defends Civil Liberties
The "Left" hates when one of their own goes all "This is actually the Law" on them !
So what's your theory of how files from it got to the Russians? Did the DNC actually send them to Russia in your version of events?
Because it is a false point?
FBI does not seize servers that are necessary for a company's business unless there is no other choice. They cloned the hard drive and got everything they needed to further the investigation. Welcome to the 21st century.
You also seem to ignore the fact that the RNC, who was also hacked, also refused to turn over their server (as you like to put it).
They are a business that cannot run without their servers, they handed over their servers to the FBI long enough to be cloned (probably did not even have to leave their property).
Seriously Wally, if you cannot support your argument without false talking points, you should pick a different argument.
Stone will sing like a canary now to try and keep his white supremacist ass out of prison, and to no avail. bwah ha ha
Does he now have a Rump tramp stamp above his ass?
The state of liberalism today....
They cheer armed FBI agents raid an old men's houses in the middle of the night for nothing more than process crimes, but.....
Go into hysterics when ICE does their job raiding ILLEGAL immigrants
Liberals are in a sad state of affairs.
What we learned today is what every objective human being knew for more than a year - there never was any collusion/conspiracy by Trump in the 2016 election. We also have seen a rouge investigation get way out of control. One in which only those who were at any time connected to the Trump campaign get investigated. The individuals who are arrested & charged are arrested as if they were drug cartel leaders (with friendly media organizations notified), they are then charged mostly for perjury, threatened, when possible their families are threatened and all possible pressure is brought to bear to concoct the desired story against the President.
Oh, jeebus....the Dershowitz gambit yet again. The limpest of all arguments so, of course, it's the go-to one for the MAGA's hoping against hope that Scumbag isn't going down. Seems like every time the "NO COLLUSION" wail goes up there's a new indictment for it a few days later.