Trump Accused Of Stealing $150,000 In 9/11 Disaster Relief Funds
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House Judiciary Committee Chairman Rep. Jerry Nadler (D-NY) accused Trump of stealing $150,000 in disaster relief intended for small businesses after 9/11.
Rep. Nadler said on CNN’s State Of The Union, “9/11 happened in my district. I know a lot of people who suffered from it. I was involved. I was instrumental in getting funding for small business, grants for victims of 9/11 for people with small businesses in the area. The president, he wasn’t president then, but Donald Trump actually took a $150,000 grant from the Bush administration. They let him take a $150,000 grant meant for small businessmen for 40 Wall Street. He stole $150,000 from some small business person who could have used it to help rehabilitate themselves, and that’s why I got, we got Congress to appropriate the money to use it for his own ‘small business’ at 40 Wall Street. He has no moral authority to be talking about 9/11.”
Trump is trying to use 9/11 to spread fear and division
The Bush administration for all of their uses of 9/11 as a reason for every policy that they pushed, never used the attack to demonize Muslim-Americans. Former President Bush gave speeches where he separated the terrorists from those in the Muslim faith. Trump has trampled all of that distinction because he is getting desperate as his reelection campaign approaches.
Trump has a long history of lying about and profiting off of 9/11 The $150,000 that Trump took was supposed to be for clean up and repairs , but none of his buildings were damaged in the attack.
Donald Trump has no moral authority to talk about anything, but it is especially outrageous that robbed 9/11 victims and then uses the attack to whip up fear.
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If you can't dispute what was said here then toddle along
He didn't steal anything. He applied and was given funds.
This is a new line of attack. When did this happen?
Much of that post is hogwash.
And I fervently hope they get over that one day.
Actually....all of it.
WTF does ANY of your post have to do with some asswipe accusing the President of stealing?
The Rump's whole business life has been stealing from someone else or screwing someone else.
Try reading the article
here let me help you some
from the article : but none of his buildings were damaged in the attack.
Prove tex or leave
Read the article. Also did some of my own research.
Did you know that owning a building that suffered damage during 9/11 is NOT a requirement for applying for or receiving the grant?
bet you didn't bother to look anything up for yourself.
How's Snopes for you as a source to prove you wrong?
What's True
A business owned or operated by Donald Trump was entitled to $150,000 in federal aid to businesses affected by the 9/11 attacks.
What's False
The grant money wasn't specifically earmarked for small businesses, nor was it improperly accessed by Trump. Trump's businesses did not lie or mislead federal agencies to in order to qualify under the terms of the programs, which didn't require businesses to have sustained physical damage to be entitled to the funds. Trump's business also wasn't the only large firm to qualify under criteria used by the agency tasked with distributing the grant money.
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I dispute it because Nadler obviously can't prove what he is alleging. .
Yet you ignore the facts
but none of his buildings were damaged in the attack.
Why do you keep repeating that?
No one is disputing it.
What we are proving to you is that damage to a building was NOT a requirement to receive the grants.
No matter how many times you say his building was undamaged, it changes NOTHING about how or why he received the grant.
So... He did nothing worse than getting standard everyday WELFARE FOR THE RICH?
Just like with taxes--if you don't like how government is run--implore your elected officials to change the laws instead of complaining when people follow the laws.
Donald Rump and the republicans are the biggest welfare whores out there!!!!!!!!!!
Perhaps a law requiring that tax payer money should only go to people who actually PAY TAXES.
Now THAT would be immensely unpopular amongst Democrats in particular.
So now you want to push Granny off the cliff if she no longer pays taxes?
And no more welfare, medicaid, and housing for non-taxpayers?
Heck, Democrats railed when some states want work requirements for those things, so I don't see any way possible to simply end those programs.
When did that become the standard? The way we usually do things in America is if the accuser can't prove his accusation beyond a reasonable doubt, he's the one who gets to toddle along.
You don't like it don't blah blah on my posts
Amazing that if someone on the left had done this, the right would be screaming about how crooked they are.
With it being trump, all is ok and it was perfectly legal....
Actually it was perfectly legal. How many years later has it taken for the left to even notice this or care?
This is all old news.
Democrats have brought this up before--after all, 9/11 was almost 18 years ago.
Silly, isn't it?
Yep. I like what you did there...
From what I gather, it has been brought up before.
Is there nothing trump cannot do that you all will not defend?
The TDS is actually a great term to describe his followers. Blinded by his bigly brain and his covfefe.
It may have been legal, does not mean it was ethical or right.
Then again, ethics seem to be a thing of the past.
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Don't tell me, the right is a bouquet of virtue...
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Is that the new talking point? That a coup has tried to take place?
Talk about hyperbole.
Impeach a president for getting a blowjob, investigate Hillary for eight fucking years and the left is the one with a problem?
trump was right. He could shoot someone on 5th ave and his faithful would never waiver.
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So no matter what he did or didn't do there should never have been an investigation?
I guess they should be reserved for only one side of the isle...
Also if there is no there there, why is Giuliani writing a rebuttal for the anticipated release?
If it cleared him of all wrong doing, there should be no need. Also makes me think Barr told the WH more than letting on.
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As the right loves to say, I suppose you have proof of such accusations?
And the 'Oranges of the Species' His father was born in Germany didn't you hear?
What a fuckhead idiot moron dipshit scumbag.
That leaves out the turd in chief Rump and ANYONE WHO SUPPORTS the shitstain.
Yup, the shitstain, turd in chief, said that just the other day.
Nope, he just uses his Magic Eight Ball.
It's whack!
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I suggest you read and comprehend the article
Hands you a barf bag
or what?
don't be afraid to finish a sentence.
you might want to get that looked at by a medical professional before it spreads any further.
Quite clever:)
No, not at all.
Why, thank you.
I know everyone isn't astute enough to see it.
Kudos to you!
Oh come on now:)
Regardless of the content, I found the usage rather clever myself.
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Being astute has nothing to do with it. Not clever at all.
A truly astute person would never state that.
And would recognize the cleverness.
There is nothing recognizably clever there.
Once again, it takes an astute person to recognize it.
Sorry you don't.
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Would that be a bad thing to be ?
I suppose a JOB is a bad thing to have for some here.
Rather pitiful way to think, eh?
Did I say it was?
Sure !
Maybe someone doesn't HAVE a job, and therefore disparages those of us who do?
Seems that's a popular thingy these days !
Nah I have a job.
I bet your benefits are great [deleted] where you work eh?
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Sounds like a (liberal) Areva Martin v. (conservative) David Webb problem.
Maybe they are simply confused on gender? Their own AND others, perhaps?
Gender doesn't matter....Until it does in their realm.
"Women's Rights" we always hear....but yet, the "Left" wants boys in track-n-field running against "Women", and we also hear that they want boys being able to go in the "Women's" restrooms.
The only time "Women's Rights" actually MEANS SOMETHING, is when they want "Funding" for their "Bad Choices".
The "left" tell Women what they can and can't be against ALL THE TIME !
"YOU WILL PUT UP WITH THE BOYS BEING IN YOUR GROUP LITTLE MISS" !
You two make such a cute couple!
Thaaaaanks !
That is because you are not astute like me:)
Sorry Tessylo I just couldn't help myself, only playing.
Quite alright Luther. I know you're only kidding. I don't take offense to what you say.
See? We DO agree on some things!
It was bound to happen eventually
Some really do like to toot their own horns. I guess when nobody else will . . . . poor baby .
Should be paid back if wrong.
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Trump can never out do the Democrats.
Nope. His foundation was just closed down. Buying paintings of oneself can have that kind of impact.
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I don't know where the NYP got its info yet every charity watchdog group rated it good.
Charity Watch gave it an A rating, Charity Navigator gave it four stars.
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The NYP article was in 2015. The places I looked at were from 2016.
Either way, the only charity I give to is St Jude.
What the hell do you mean they closed it down for lack of donations? The Clinton Foundation received an A+ rating.
The deaths surrounding the Clintons?
You know Nadler has nothing going on with the Mueller report if he's building up this nonsense. Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Everything with the Trump is the 'bottom of the barrel.' That is where you have to go.
How inane that comment is. Surly you can do better
$150,000 is meaningless. Just more Trump stuff. What about all of the workers the Trump cheated on wages in the past decades? Just more Trump stuff. Don't matter though, Bannon confirmed that the Trump was delivered through divine intervention. So, there is that, right?
Remember the Trump's 'veteran group fundraiser' for the veterans group that had only one member? You know, the one during the campaign on the battleship in New York harbor?
There is much more but, for the 'believers' it just doesn't matter. Who cares?
"I really don't care. Do you?" Displayed on Melania's coat said it all. Read em' and weep, suckers.
Hillary !!
emails
bleached servers!
If it was so illegal, why not bring it up when it happened? Why wait until now?
We keep hearing from Democrats in Congress that they have special secret information about the crimes that Donald Trump has committed, but they never produce this evidence. Somehow their investigative powers exceed those of DOJ, the IRS, the SEC, the FEC and any other law enforcement agency that is expert at this kind of thing and has resources specifically designed to uncover these crimes . . . but hasn't.
When is the media going to do the right thing and start openly laughing at these idiots?
What makes you think no one brought this up until now? This was brought up in 2015 or '16. You have to stop getting all your information from Fox.
The fact that it's not in the seed, John. The years 2015 and 2016 do not appear in your story. I'm not getting my information from Fox, I'm relying on you (and Don) for complete information. Apparently my faith was misplaced. Maybe post better articles, eh?
So . . . getting back to my comment, how come Trump the great lawbreaker wasn't prosecuted by any of the government agencies I mentioned? Is there anything in your wealth of old stories about crimes being committed? Maybe this quack Nadler is as full of shit in 2019 as he was in 2015 or 2016.
I have no idea what you are talking about. This is not my seed, in fact I hadn't even commented on this seed til now.
You asked why no one has been bringing up this story until now. That is totally not true. This story was brought up during 2016, and I'm sure even before that in articles and books about Trump.
Why are you making excuses for Trump? He saw a chance to make a quick 150,000 by applying for a government benefit that he did not qualify for. His business suffered no setback on 9/11 and as someone worth 10 billion (according to him) he didnt need funds set aside for small businesses who were hurt by the disruption in lower Manhattan.
He's a scumbag, but everyone knows that.
Was it a crime ? I dont know, I didnt look into it in any great detail. Nadler says he "stole" the 150,000. I dont think he was accusing Trump of a crime, I think he was saying that Trump took something that he wasnt entitled to. Sounds about right.
It is a sorry sight to see you guys time after time try and pretend Trump is ethical.
HINT : It's a losing cause.
I guess you missed my reference to Don.
Was it? Because I don't see the word "steal" in the headlines you posted. It's one thing to complain that the government did something it shouldn't have in granting money to Trump. That's the government's fault. In which case, your beef is with Obama.
It's another thing altogether to accuse Trump of stealing something.
You don't think that? Why on Earth not? Stealing is a crime. If the intention is not to accuse Trump of criminal behavior, then he should not use the word.
Pardon my French, but how the F$#% is there any difference between "stealing" and "took something he wasn't entitled to????"
I have not said one thing in defense of Trump. Have I?! I don't even know anything about it to defend him. I'm still waiting to see the evidence that he stole something.
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Depends on the subject. When it comes to Rump, all reason, common sense, facts - out the window.
President Donald Trump and First Lady Melania Trump arrive at John Murtha Johnstown-Cambria County Airport in Johnstown, PA on September 11th, 2018.
September 11th is the most solemn day on the U.S. calendar. The terrorist attacks that left nearly 3,000 people dead 17 years ago are still fresh in the minds of many, and no occasion calls for a greater show of reverence and respect, especially from the nation’s commander-in-chief. President Trump commemorated the fallen Tuesday morning by watching a DVR’d episode of Lou Dobbs Tonight and tweeting about the Russia investigation.
A few minutes later, the president retweeted a post from White House social media director Dan Scavino about how he signed a letter proclaiming September 11th “Patriots Day 2018,” before quickly returning to his comfort zone. Lou Dobbs was still blaring on the executive television, and half-baked musings about the Russia investigation still needed to be tweeted. In a few minutes, Trump would need to depart for a memorial service in Shanksville, Pennsylvania — where 40 people died on Flight 93 while thwarting a plot to crash into the U.S. Capitol. He snuck in a nod to his legal counsel and one more attack on the Justice Department before departing.
The president was clearly pumped up for some Trump-style tragedy commemoration upon arriving in Pennsylvania.
Trump’s relationship with 9/11 has always been curious, if not outright disrespectful. As a born-and-bred New Yorker whose identity is closely tied to the city, one would think he would make a point of showing the utmost respect for those who lost their lives, but as is the case with Trump’s relationship to just about anything, he hasn’t been able to resist making it about himself whenever possible. During an interview with Bloomberg not even two weeks ago, the president referenced George W. Bush speaking through a bullhorn at ground zero as an annoying blip preventing Trump’s own popularity among Republicans from being the highest ever. “The advantage we have is — I am actually a very popular president, which people don’t like to say, you know,” Trump said. “In fact, I guess the Republican poll came out, there’s one at 92 and one at 93 and one at 90, and they’re the highest numbers that have ever been, with the exception of a tiny period of time with a bullhorn. But that period lasted for about a week.”
The issue was brought into focus during the 2016 campaign, as well, most notably in 2015 when he falsely claimed that he watched “thousands and thousands of people” on rooftops in New Jersey “cheering as that building was coming down.” Trump was using the claim to justify his calls to surveil mosques, noting that New Jersey has a “large Arab population.” A few weeks later, he would call for all Muslim immigrants to be banned from entering the United States.
It wasn’t the only time he used 9/11 as a political tool. “The World Trade Center came down because Bill Clinton didn’t kill Osama bin Laden when he had the chance to kill him,” he said during a debate in February 2016. “And George Bush, by the way, George Bush had the chance, also, and he didn’t listen to the advice of his CIA.” When the audience booed, Trump claimed that he “lost hundreds of friends” in the attacks. A few months later, during a campaign event in Buffalo, New York, he lied about putting himself in harm’s way to help clear rubble.
Trump’s bizarre relationship with 9/11 predates his presidential run, of course. While speaking before Congress in 2005, Trump defended the use of asbestos in building materials by claiming that if the World Trade Center had been constructed using the toxic substance, they’d still be standing. In 2013, he famously tweeted that he “would like to extend my best wishes to all, even the haters and losers, on this special date, September 11th.” The tweet reportedly disappeared during the 2016 campaign, but a quoted tweet dated September 11th, 2013 remains on Trump’s timeline.
The most telling example of Trump’s understanding of 9/11, of his total lack of empathy and of his pathological self-centeredness came the morning of the attack. While on the phone with Secaucus, New Jersey’s WWOR, Trump was asked whether his building at 40 Wall Street has sustained any damaged as a result of the attacks. He proceeded to brag about how now that the World Trade Center had fallen, he owned the tallest building in downtown Manhattan. “40 Wall Street actually was the second-tallest building in downtown Manhattan,” Trump said. “Before the World Trade Center it was the tallest. Then when the built the World Trade Center it become known as the second-tallest, and now it’s the tallest.”
To answer the question posed by WWOR’s Rolland Smith, the Trump building at 40 Wall Street did not sustain any damage from the attacks. This didn’t stop Trump from applying for and accepting federal recovery money after it was made available for the area’s small businesses, largely because of lobbying efforts by then-Senator Hillary Clinton. “For many months, I allowed people to stay in the building, use the building and store things in the building,” Trump explained after he was pressed to return the money. “I was happy to do it and to this day I am still being thanked for the many people I helped. The value of what I did was far greater than the money talked about.”
What is this comment? You just copied and pasted an entire article from Rolling Stone without attribution.
Trump’s Bizarre History With 9/11
Are these supposed to be your thoughts? Are you plagiarizing?
May 23, 2016
Donald Trump Scammed $150,000 From 9/11 Relief Fund (VIDEO)
May 23, 2016 · Trump Taking 9/11 Funds Is ‘Indefensible’ – Congressman. Congressman Jerry Nadler (D-NY), who represents New York’s 10th Congressional District where the 9/11 attacks took place, helped secure the funds for the small businesses at or around the World Trade Center.
Which law did he break again?
That is patently false. Trump applied for a grant, met the requirements for the grant, and was awarded a grant.
And some people still can not let their blinding hatred of all things Trump go long enough to even listen to reason or look at facts.
Donald Trump took advantage of program designed to help ...
May 18, 2016 · Donald Trump made a pretty penny off a program to help small businesses hurt by 9/11 , one of many times where The Donald took advantage of government programs to …
Hmmm . . . I don't see the part about Trump "stealing" anything.
I've agreed that he didn't break any laws....he's just unethical. But you already know that
That is because Trump didn't steal the grant money, and most of the TDS sufferers can not let facts get in the way of a good Trump rant.
I'm confused. Were we talking? Was I trying to get you to agree to anything?
This seed is about Trump "stealing" something, so that's what I have been commenting on. If you want to launch a seed on Trump's ethics, go for it, but I see no reason why I should have been discussing that here.
Here's another good one about that lying piece of shit. That was in 2016 as well.
NYC Official: No Evidence Trump Gave $10K to 9/11 Fund
Oct 14, 2016 · NYC Official: No Evidence Trump Gave $10K to 9/11 Fund . ... using the "Howard Stern Relief Fund " as a marketing hook, as the website for the …
Is this even related to this seed? I don't see anything about Trump "stealing" funds in the title. Think I'll skip it.
another story from 2016
No Evidence That $150,000 9/11 Grant Given To Trump Was Used to Help Anyone But Himself
After the collapse of the World Trade Center just 15 years ago, the federal government set up a relief fund for small businesses in the area that had been affected by 9/11. That relief fund was administered by the Empire State Development Corporation , an agency funded by the State of New York.
It’s difficult to imagine any of Donald Trump’s businesses in Manhattan as being “small.” And even if his property located at 40 Wall Street did qualify as a small business, surely someone with a net worth of $10 billion (as he was reported having at the time) wouldn’t need federal help in the wake of such a disaster.
Yet, of that $530 million relief fund, Trump received $150,000. He’s taken some heat from it; on the eve of last summer’s Democratic Convention, Representative Joseph Crowley of New York accused Trump of “cashing in” on the tragedy.
At the time, Rep. Crowley said: “He cashed in, collecting $150,000 in federal funds intended to help small businesses recover — even though days after the attack Trump said his properties were not affected.”
What is this? Yet another story about uninformed people accusing Trump of wrongdoing while expert investigators of crime remain unconcerned? Pro Tip, for you: Quantity of links does not equal quality and it sure doesn't equal relevance.
Feel free to stop embarrassing yourself at any time.
He lied and cheated about the Mar-A-Lago "hurricane" damage that never happened but he claimed insurance costs. He is a con man and a grifter, that is all he does.
The turd's whole life he has been a lie, a cheat, a thief, a thug, a scumbag, a grifter.
Nadler is nothing more than a present day Joe McCarthy. Make wild accusations with no evidence and investigate later .... hoping .... praying .... it will turn something up.
Its McCarthyism ..... nothing more, nothing less and it should be beneath a sitting US Senator. But alas ..... it clearly is not.